100T Coaching Search Application

A couple months ago, Zikz and 100T put out an open call for coaching.

https://100thieves.com/pages/100-thieves-valorant-open-enrollment-coaching-staff?srsltid=AfmBOoozUultxiPf82KRBYeB0Ullzjt8SPw0CW67s-ijq_JndFNmygPt

I spent 2 weeks putting a tremendous amount of time and effort to create these two analysis reports:

100T Icebox
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1zYRtRbyClNjJXx-vbA2X6s64IlaVGfhV/view?usp=drive_link

FNC Haven
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1kE90FXjCtj_qaXCOp-j0pInVEdqL1KEz/view?usp=drive_link

Despite the effort, despite reaching out to Zikz two weeks after the deadline for any word, I was ghosted. Only to find out that your average VCT scouting/analysis report is 1/200th the size.

The reason I'm bringing this up is because I'm tired of seeing Nadeshot and 100 Thieves continue the narrative that they are trying everything they can. They simply are not. They are just continuing the one thing that has plagued esports, cronyism. The normal size of an analysis report in VCT is 1-2 pages. For a game that is supposed to be "TACTICAL" ... how do you fit a scouting report into one page?

How does Nadeshot and the 100T organization pay for such mediocracy when people put real effort into their applications? Esports needs to stop being a revolving door.

Thats fucked from 100T not even a msg saying that you didnt qual

Im sure youll find a team GOAT

Unfortunately orgs are dumb

Damn karma strikes back (I actually agree with you on this ngl they don't want to be held accountable)

getting ghosted sucks

fire z0kz

after thinking abt it it makes no sense to write a so detailed script (which also looks like gpt tbh) when u can put the info on a couple of pages, the point behind this is to create smth that wins games and rounds, not to overcomplicate and overdetail stuff

Low key looks like they just wanted to take the info people sent in and use it without actually having to do any of the work themselves

I love Rb

Edit: I am stupid

Read your Fnatic analysis 113/115 pages you made are useless and it’s clear that you used ChatGPT. Most if not nearly all the information you give is useless as shit lmao

:(

yep, more pages = better, for sure

you need an abstract or a synopsis. Its a really good analysis and definitely deserves recognition but noone realistically wants to read 100 pages or 50 pages to get to the actual analysis. If you could sum up all the information within a couple of pages and then submit to Zikz or someone in 100t. Then maybe spam any recruiters or we could try bumping this thread to the top. Maybe we could get the word out there. Also you should highlight your personal accomplishments aswell so you as a person can be recognized. Like your highest rank or your hours on the game, etc.

Hey! I know everyone has been supportive, but I'd like to offer an alternative perspective of why this is the way it is

Scouting reports are made for the players and Head Coach to look at and develop a gameplan, or to find specific antis that will win them a few rounds. These players are busy people, and I can promise you that it's far more worth their time to play 1 scrim than read 113 pages of information that won't even enter their heads. They know what Icebox is, they don't need to know that it's based on Bennet Islands...

Something that teams genuinely look for when finding people to do these kind of reports is the ability to keep things short, sweet, easy to interpret, and easy to implement. Most of my reports are ~20 pages tops for all 7 maps, and most of that is pictures rather than text (especially stuff that looks VERY AI written - sorry)

I'm sure the effort was appreciated, but I think if you put the same amount of effort into the details that you did the overarching context and irrelevant things, you might find some stuff that can help win games rather than just describe them

Too much redundant/useless information. Nobody wants to read 100+ pages of that when they already pour hours and hours into vod review, scrims, player development, etc. With that being said it’s definitely fucked to be ghosted after all of that effort.

Skimmed through this. While its a ton of info there's not an easily readable amount of information. While you included executes and what they used I don't see a default section at all. Only player movements. My advice in the future is to break it down in a simple direction. Most teams will use one of a number of defaults when working map control. Obviously these can be faked however your team would then at least know off of maybe a recon and stun what the enemy team is roughly doing and their positions. A lot what you included isn't actually helpful except for some of the postplant locations. Its an impressive amount of work but its focused in the wrong areas to help a team.

https://imgur.com/a/RB8zoQr

This for instance is much more helpful because you'll see this actually happen immediately a lot. By going over this my players would know roughly where the enemy team is and can weigh whether they want to take space or overrotate or be ready for something.

the unfortunate reality is that a lot of this is just information without proper direction. a team can't use this information b/c its very generalized and doesn't teach the players much outside of specific tendencies they might have. it honestly also seems AI generated

the doc is horrible lmfao, if they even saw it they probably laughed at you. 110 pages and the majority of them is useless nonsense

think of it this way, why do you think resumes are usually kept to one page
theres probably a reason why
next time just be curious about why something happened the way it did instead of reacting emotionally and lashing out

Theres already a bunch of good replies in here and i hope you actually use them to improve in your respective field

the doc being useless or not aside, they should've at least responded you. i understand that detailed feedback might not be possible for the amount of people that applied, but if they had an open call, they should have been prepared for this and have at least a "we haven't chose you but we're glad you applied" response. job market is all fucked up for things like these

Being ghosted never feels good and I'm sorry that happened to you. That said, high effort doesn't mean high quality. I'm going to give you the advice that I've given to every aspiring analyst/strategic coach who's asked me for feedback on documentation like this.

Having this level of depth is great and some coaches will value it highly, but for 90% of use cases, this is absolutely useless.

Something that was driven home to me very quickly in my time in private equity was that if you can communicate what needs to be communicated in fewer words, do it. A firm's partner isn't going to read a 25 page report, they'll read your 1-page summary and that 1-page summary better be excellent. In top tier esports it may not be a partner who's reading, but it's a player. For how much of your report will their attention span hold? and how much of what they cover in that attention span will they actually retain in a way that it's actionable?

When I anti, could I produce this sort of document? Sure. Do I though? Absolutely not. I provide a 12 - 20 slide "elevator pitch" style deck that communicates core concepts in as easy-to-retain a format possible, and then I provide a 1-pager in addition to that that's basically 8-15 bullet points of 1-3 sentences each that give very concise actionable conclusions with linked references.

I have all my rough notes that I can use to cite/further explain if needed, but I'm not going to waste my time formatting those into a comprehensive report that no one other than me should need to read if I'm doing my job well enough.

Even then, how a HC wants their reports provided is preferential. It feels bad to have your hard work feel like it wasn't respected or given due consideration, but not you, not I, not anyone, is entitled to that at the end of the day. The approach I've always taken and recommend: seek feedback, value it when it's given, don't feel entitled or wronged when it's not given, and "just do shit." Keep working hard, and if you work hard enough long enough, you'll become undeniable.

To be fair, expecting a response is not too bright since most of the times you dont get one unless you are accepted even in the normal job market. Now imagine a position with no real requirements lol

post this smwhere that isn't vlr to get more attention to bring the issue to a more public audience. U might get hate for it tho be careful

Those guys dont have time to go to the toilet and you send them 115 pages of doc.

Bro thinks companies still respond to everyone lol. Time is money bro. I applied to a company a year ago who JUST replied no like 2 weeks ago. It's the hard reality, not every company will respond within a timely manner because it's not worth it to them. Also, sorry to say but it looks like you GPT'd 90% of your documents lol. Keep trying though, all this advice in this thread good, keep working at it and one day you may get your shot.

2 weeks is a short ass time you gotta wait longer bro

opened up FNC Haven and saw the first 2-ish paragraphs were dedicated to describing the Map's aesthetics and origins and checked out. Who tf cares about Haven's real-world location lol

opened up 100T Icebox and saw a lack of easily comprehensible diagrams or defaults.

Pictures paint a thousand words. Just use Valoplant to depict your ideas and everyone will get it without you writing 100 pages.

Cut out the useless fluff and your report is like 3 pages long

all you really need for a strat is a team comp, understanding what roles people play (for example obv boaster is smokes, but his role in game on defense for example will be a weak site hold), anti strats, execs, retakes, and defense setups/rotates

Nvm this is so ass

you literally did the most useless anti ever. like its not even anti you just spewed useless stats. its clear you put effort into it but that is not even close to what any team is looking for

First, none of this truly matters. If you're reading this post please consider donating to the victims of the Los Angeles fires:

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Second, someone cool helped me out with my submission and I want to give him a shoutout, Nabil Elouahabi, basically gave me a bunch of dialogue that I created a fun video for my submission. He has a Cameo page and you should check it out ( https://www.cameo.com/valorant1973 )

Third, I think a couple of important people jumped to conclusions about my work. I don’t think you can fit my system into the traditional way of doing things. While I appreciate their critiques, their time spent was a bit misguided.

I would also like to take the time to again point out the current state of the landscape. We see what the current work leads to. My comments about the size of the analysis that is handed over to players should alarm you as a viewer. You cannot truly believe that handing a one page response to a player is anything close to professional. If you disagree with me, I would point you to HBO specials like Hard Knock: https://www.hbo.com/hard-knocks . Just look at the binders they carry around. That sort of preparation is what leads to amazing sports moments. Talent needs knowledge to thrive. Many people do not have this knowledge required so they make it about other things.

Thank you to the people who took the time to read my work. Good or bad, if you actually took the time to read it, I appreciate you.

The context that is missing from the critiques is that my work leads to discussions. The number one rule in any sort of strategy effort is that your perfect plan is going to fail. The sizing of this is supposed to acknowledge that. There needs to be a foundation from which knowledge can grow.

A one page analysis of your analysts thoughts and conclusions is not going to get you there. You don’t know any of the inputs such as their skill and knowledge of the subject, how they are feeling, what experience they have in composing documents that require them to be non-bias or even if they had a bad breakfast.

I spent some time on individual players. But I think many of my critics think it is just the 100T and FNC players. Nope, it was 19 different teams.

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1SJK_Brlfyf0urXM0rbqdXmpk6qgad_9Z?usp=drive_link

I didn’t feel like I could adequately give an analysis report without doing the film. So in addition to my work and research into the players, I needed to see the games that the past teams played to see if there were any adjustments in the way they played. An analysis would be pointless if it was an entirely different roster/comp/coach.

So what I did was cut every single game into rounds. From each of those rounds I created a mini-map focused video. This way I could see at a high level what is usually missed in analysis work if you were purely using VCT footage.

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1U02rpKLO580ozSZ04tqUrgYrfYfHlsE2?usp=drive_link

Once again, the goal of my work is not the output. It’s the path I journey to get to a place of expertise that can then be utilized by the organization.

I'm not going to attack anyone individually but I would just like to point out that my work is a direct attack on theirs. To see what someone is capable of and then to have to look at your work product can produce jealousy. As people in positions of privilege they should look at my work and applaud it. I tried and produced something of value. It's just weird that you would take 10 minutes of skimming it to try and destroy it. That's some shameful stuff. Do better.

lots of words =/= good information, thank god my team didnt hire you

good luck though

aint no team tryna read 200 pages of info they already know lol

yea im sure the 100t players are going to read the 100 page essay per map!!

Being ghosted is awful, but Its worth noting with any job, you aren't ever "warranted" a response. Its usually a bonus if a potential employer ever informs you why you didn't make it through to the next wave of interviews. I applied to this role as well, made it to top 20, was told I didn't make it to the final round. I wasn't provided a reason, but I took that as a notice to further improve my work.

While you have the right to feel frustrated, bashing/downplaying the work of the two who DID get the position does not do you any favors. Nor does blasting the existing staff on other posts of VLR. This will do more negatives to your reputation and brand then it does good.

If you truly feel your work is good, keep your head down and stick to it. The results will speak for themselves.

yo imagine if tactical rab covers this lmaoooooo

Last thing I'm going to say on this thread.

If the popular way to do things worked then it would work.

100T's Coaching staff pretended to go outside and preyed on people's dreams. That's not cool. The simple fact is that me and many others were not talked to and they ended up with a tier 2 coach and a radiant player.

I just wanted to draw attention to that fact. The fact that Nadeshot talks about how he tried to do everything and here is a good example where the effort level was near zero.

If you don't like my work, that's fine. Like I said, if the current meta for coaching was a working system, we would have successful coaches. But in reality, we don't. Most coaches have a negative win rate. I'm just trying to be an advocate for the community. I think you deserve better. I think you deserve people who do more work than less.

Sorry if you disagree.

In this forum thread, a user expresses frustration after applying for a coaching position with 100 Thieves (100T), following an open call for coaches by Zikz and the org. The user invested a significant amount of time and effort into creating extensive analysis reports (totaling over 100 pages) for 100T’s maps, Icebox and Haven. Despite this effort, they claim they were "ghosted" after reaching out to Zikz for feedback, and they later discovered that VCT scouting reports are typically much shorter, around 1-2 pages.

The user criticizes the 100T organization, including Nadeshot, for not genuinely pursuing the best talent and perpetuating "cronyism" in esports. They argue that 100T’s failure to respond shows a lack of professionalism and accountability. Other forum users sympathize with the effort but offer critiques, noting that the report is too long and filled with redundant or irrelevant information. Several users suggest that esports organizations typically prefer concise, actionable reports over long, detailed ones. The report, they argue, could have been more focused on key game strategies, player tendencies, and actionable insights, rather than excessive details like players' social media handles or map aesthetics.

A few users provide constructive feedback, urging the original poster to focus on shorter, more impactful content. Others support the user, criticizing 100T’s management for not responding and claiming the current coaching landscape in esports is flawed. There’s also a wider debate about how esports organizations handle applications, with some pointing out that it’s not unusual for applicants to be ignored and that the quality of work, regardless of the effort, matters more.

In the latter parts of the thread, the user defends their work, explaining that the level of detail was meant to spur discussion and provide a deep understanding of team dynamics. They argue that their extensive approach could lead to valuable insights for improving gameplay and fostering better team communication. Ultimately, they express frustration with the esports system and challenge the current coaching methods, which they believe aren't effective in improving team performance.

ChatGPT real-time analysis

this thread is a fucking movie holy shit LMAOOOO

Aside from the things other users have mentioned already, I just wanted to ask if you've actually coached a team before? I'm pretty sure 100T would prefer people who actually have coaching experience in T2/T3. If you REALLY believe your work is worth something then start coaching T3 teams first and see where it goes.

Maybe apply for something more your level like a challengers or T3 team!

EVERYONE has pulled up to this thread holy

hall of fame thread perhaps

Insane thread lmfao

trembolonarage reincarnation

Expecting 20 year old tiktok brained gamers to consume 100+ pages of TEXT is delusional. Your doc looks nice but almost all of the useful information is so diluted in extra useless chaff that no one will ever find and retain it. Also, keep in mind that you need to be producing these at least weekly and sometimes every other day in a tournament setting. There is no time. Communicating 3-5 actionable points in the simplest possible terms is literally the only thing useful to Valorant pros. Too much information is as bad or even worse than too little.

I also applied for this in the offseason and made phase two of the application process. I can assure you that I have no connections with anyone at the org and I definitely didn't cut and paste map lore from a wiki into my document.

generationally good bait
its inspirational ngl
got players, analysts, coaches, the whole deal
up there with EG Chunk

This may be the funniest thread I’ve seen in a minute

vlr's final form

this was a read and a half bro holy shit like a never ending rollercoaster

@tacticalrab

i was here

wow this is either the greatest bait of vlr history or the most delusional wanna-be analyst thats basically telling every coach replying that has 1000x more experience than him "no. you're wrong and im right."

I'm here to witness m4 wannbe coach get rekt by multiple profressional coaches and he still not accept it lmao.

situation reads similar to a superiority complex high school kid writing a 5000 word essay despite being given a 1000 word limit because he thinks that's what the teacher will want to see. inevitably gets marked down for writing a load of chaff with no actual substance, then goes and complains to his friends about all the work he put in. then is approached by the teacher who marked his essay explaining that he made some good points but hid them in 5000 words of filler and that he should be more succinct, and the kid figures that the teacher must be wrong because clearly more effort = better quality

yeah you're a moron lmfao

Being a coach in a team environment you have to listen to feedback from players coaches and even people out of the game. And saying things like you don't have wins to Mce is plain disrespectful and would get you fired. No HM or HR is going to look at the hostility in this thread and even consider you.

I saw you talk about how traditional sports have big binders and referenced hard knocks i assure you that none of those binders have the ig handles for any of the players. First 80 pages of your fnc heaven doc is something any analyst can find on vlr. You need to show them why they need to hire you not give them stat book.

Anderzz literally won 2 trophies with prime FNATIC and man's out here playing Helen Keller to his advice 💀

Presentation >>>

It doesn't matter how great your work is if it's not clear and concise. Remember, you are presenting your report to a busy coach and esports professionals, not a science board. I think it's fine to work hard and do a tonne of research, but for the purpose of this role, it is more important to provide actionable points that a coach can weave into a game plan, especially during tournaments when time is very limited. Best of luck!

AAAAH

Why bother with constructive crtisicm, this is vlr, reply to any form of work with rage bait

Hall of fame thread MCE has become a household fan favourite by owning this loser thank god ur not on my coaching staff

Lets see how you respond to nonconstructive criticism. This is the most disgusting useless waste of time analysis that I have ever read in my life. Forget tier 1 analysis, I wouldn’t even hire you if you were offering to analyze elite division premier games for free. Chatgpt document, providing player location info with ZERO context, saying generic shit like “derke getting kills in this area means that he is incentivised to play aggressively” ????? Which areas are you even talking about? Any specifications? I guarantee you that the nonformatted dogshit 10 minute google doc analysis I made for my premier team provides leagues more relevant and useful information than your 100+ page “analysis” does and heres proof.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/14vD06sH7hUINSDmOxmdSxxKVULnbibj6gYJvi95i8gA/edit

Oh wow this guy got a big ego for someone that has accomplished nothing in Valo and used chatGPT to given an analysis.

Log off 😭😭😭😭

mad cause bad 🤷‍♂️

This is the greatest bait thread of all time. Well done. I can't believe you got actual coaches to respond to this.

this might be the greatest ragebait ever. good job bro

I just came here to say that aint reading allat, love VLR drama

this is the funniest thread ive ever seen on vlr

i am late but i am here
better late than never

hall of fame thread

...........

Stop yapping and go find a job (and don’t use chatgpt for your job application lol)

Today I try to break down this analysis to understand and try to better myself live on stream at twitch.tv/mCe__ but unfortunately I am 19-38 W/L

https://i.imgur.com/1teWdL6.png youre telling me this aint chatgpts work

rage bait 3/10 try harder next time

i just spent 25 mins of my lunch break reading this