NAVI might be sneaky good. I feel like koalanoob is around the same tier of firepower as ardiis. Honestly, if koalanoob is as good as an AWPer as these NA fans advertise then he'll be an awesome pickup. SUYGETSU is historically better than hiro but I won't be surprised if hiro is gonna be better than him this year. Ruxic being a cracked controller is actually pretty big since that prevents the team from nerfing itself when ANGE1 dies first as a controller. ANGE1 on flex as a planter (Gekko) or a secondary controller (Viper) seems great so he doesn't have to take too many gunfights. Finally Shao is Shao.

For Liquid, I really feel like paTiTek is the weak link. I don't think he'll ever play as well again as he did in Shanghai but I hope he proves me wrong. Kr1stal still would've been my pick since it also gives Liquid a dedicated IGL. For his role, kamyk is pretty solid. You won't find too many cracked Breach, KAY/O, Gekko players anyway so he's the next best thing. I feel like kamo would either be a top 3 or bottom 3 EMEA duelist next year, there's no in between. I'm also kinda excited to see Keiko on smokes. It's been a while since we've seen a controller player with good aim.

This honestly makes me wonder how good kamo was in his tryout for Liquid to risk their image by signing him?

On a similar note, how good was paTiTek in his tryout as well for Liquid to choose him over kr1stal who's probably gonna play the same position + IGL

There are rumors that FUT get xeus and drop cNed right?

In that case Duelist - cNed

or tbh, why won't BBL just take xeus

would rather have kr1stal instead of paTiTek and maybe even Izzy instead of kamo

Duelist: purp0
Initiator: Chronicle
Flex/IGL: kr1stal
Sentinel: nAts
Controller: Shao
Coach: Engh

If they can get Izzy then Keiko will play smokes.

I'm not sold on kamo. I rather have Keiko back on duelist and Ruxic as controller than kamo duelist and Keiko on controller

100% agree.

OP, if it gets too much, tell your friend to seek professional help. Say something like, "I'm starting to get really worried about you and I don't know how I can help anymore. I think you should start talking to a therapist since I feel like that'll benefit you more."

And as someone who has been to therapy, it's honestly pretty good lol.

Maybe your friend just wants someone to listen. Tell him that it's hard for you to empathize since you haven't experienced those things yet, but you'll still be there to listen. Maybe you can cheer him up by treating him ice cream or something

Sometimes, the person doesn't need a solution from you but instead the person really just wants to let it out.

Liquid would probably have:

• kr1stal (info ini, IGL)
• kamyk (flash ini)
• nAts (sentinel)
• Keiko (controller)

The best duelists on the market are currently Izzy and xeus. If Liquid gets any of them then great.

But do you think they should get a Russian duelist to form a Russian trio?

Choices: Rarga, B1SK, Jemkin, something, d3ffo(?)

wow this team looks like it can get 1st place in red bull home ground 2021

sees flair

im so sorry bro...

Wo0t?

He's only 18 and showed flashes of greatness when he was on Duelist. I can see him being as good as 2023 Leo.

f u c k i n g D e r k e

it's not confirmed though but if they do get Derke and Jamppi, I'll 100% be rooting for this team along with Liquid

Really? I'll be stoked if he plays Chamber again but Sayf and Derke also play chamber and are better than Jamppi lol

Okay sorry, "average Skye" was an understatement. I just really thought he'd be like a Top 5 Skye in the world. If Skye becomes meta again, I'd prefer him to play that rather than Breach.

And of course I didn't forget about his duelist play especially on Jett. I just didn't include it because they have fucking Derke lmao

Depends on Jamppi's role. I've been a Jamppi fan since forever and he really doesn't have a single agent which he excels at. He has a really fucking wide agent pool but he's honestly just bad in some of those agents.

I really like him on Chamber and Sova. Chamber isn't meta so I don't think he'll play that. He can't play Sova on VIT because trexx is a WAY better Sova.

His Breach and Skye are serviceable. His Breach was pretty fun because he used to OP with him which is fucking crazy. His Skye was average. I expected a lot more from it because I thought Skye would suit him well.

His Omen is good. I remember him being good on Omen especially on Haven during 2021 and 2022. I forgot how his Astra was but based on VLR's stats, it's pretty good (small sample size though)

Lastly, don't let him touch KJ or Viper lol

I can see him either playing smokes or flash ini on VIT, depending on what Sayf wants to play. If Sayf wants to play flash, Jamppi plays controller. If Sayf wants to play controller, Jamppi plays flash.

Shooting-wise, it has to be bonkar right? Great IGL but I don't think I've ever seen him go positive in a single map.

Which is funny since the other answers in this thread are Yacine, Russ, and koldamenta

2021 Guild: Sayf, Leo, Yacine, draken, bonkar
2022 Guild: Sayf, Leo, trexx, Russ, koldamenta

@Chronicle come

kr1stal can be info ini + IGL

Jady can flash ini or flex

sociablEE and nukkye might be good options too

And I'm not really sold on paTiTek

FNC

• kaajak
• Leo
• Chronicle
• Alfajer
• Boaster*

TH

• Miniboo
• RieNs
• Wo0t
• benjyfishy
• Boo*

VIT

• Derke
• trexx
• Sayf
• Less
• ceNder*

TL

• Izzy
• kr1stal*
• Jady
• nAts
• Keiko

NAVI

• Click
• Shao
• nataNk
• hiro
• ANGE1*

FUT

• cNed
• qRaxs
• MrFaliN*
• yetujey
• AtaKaptan

KC

• marteen
• Avez
• saadhak*
• Elite
• SUYGETSU

KOI

• kamo
• flyuh*
• kamyk
• Sheydos
• grubinho

APK

• xeus
• MOLSI*
• soulcas
• hype
• AvovA

GX

• purp0
• Cloud*
• paTiTek
• Westside
• Ruxic

BBL

• QutionerX
• reazy
• sociablEE*
• lauress
• Brave

M8

• ScreaM
• RobbieBK*
• Zyppan
• Minny
• K4DAVRA

FNC

• kaajak
• Leo
• Chronicle
• Alfajer
• Boaster*

TH

• Miniboo
• RieNs
• Wo0t
• benjyfishy
• Boo*

VIT

• Derke
• trexx
• Sayf*
• Less
• Ruxic

TL

• Izzy
• kr1stal*
• Jady
• nAts
• Keiko

NAVI

• xeus
• Shao
• nukkye
• hiro
• ANGE1*

FUT

• cNed
• qRaxs
• MrFaliN*
• yetujey
• AtaKaptan

trexx

They can go the Sayf-IGL route and drop ceNder for a controller player with better firepower like Ruxic

xeus hopefully? I hope Liquid doesn't cheap out though

Duelist / Controller - keiko
Duelist / Controller - nukkye
Info Initiator / IGL - kr1stal
Flash Initiator - Jady
Sentinel - nAts

Both keiko and nukkye are grinding controllers in ranked.

Keiko should always be a Jett if he's playing duelist since his Raze and Neon are mid.

Nukkye's Raze WAS world-class but is probably still pretty good now. He's also been playing Neon a bit recently.

They can swap between the duelist and controller roles like how Demon1 and jawgemo did as Jett/Astra and Raze/Omen

IGL is kr1stal who is also an instalock Sova. Nukkye also kinda mains Sova but for this team, he's more important in the duelist/controller role so he won't clash roles with kr1stal

Jady has played flash initiators before and seems pretty flexible.

Sentinel is nAts duh.

The current player ratings seem low. Aspas is only an 84.

I also disagree with Leo only being an 80 in the '23 FNC team while Chronicle, Alfajer, and Derker are a 81, 82, and 92 respectively

All Russian team with something, Sheydos, nAts, Shao, and kr1stal please

VIT

• Derke (duelist)
• trexx (info ini)
• Sayf (flash ini/IGL)
• Less (sentinel)
• nukkye (controller, he said in his LFT that he's open to playing smokes)

TL

• something (duelist)
• kr1stal (info ini/IGL)
• Sheydos (flash ini, played very well on the flash ini role 2 years ago)
• nAts (sentinel)
• Shao (controller, has played smokes during the first split)

FNC

• xeus
• Leo
• Chronicle
• Alfajer
• Boaster

TH

• Miniboo
• RieNs
• Wo0t
• benjyfishy
• Boo

VIT

• Sayf
• trexx
• Kicks
• SUYGETSU
• ceNder

TL

• something / keiko
• nukkye
• Sheydos
• nAts
• <IGL>

NAVI

• Derke
• Shao
• paTiTek
• hiro
• ANGE1

FUT

• cNed
• qRaxs
• ATA KAPTAN
• yetujey
• Mr FaliN

Because people remember Suygetsu's 4K to win the tournament more than Shao's record-breaking 21 clutches

a man can dream for a full CIS team

In that case, then yes, I rather have xeus on FNC

Didn't put him there because FNC already denied it

FNC

• ComeBack*
• Leo
• Chronicle
• Alfajer
• Boaster

TH

• Miniboo
• RieNs
• Wo0t
• benjyfishy
• Boo

VIT

• Sayf
• trexx
• nukkye
• SUYGETSU
• ceNder

TL

• Derke
• Sheydos
• hiro
• nAts
• starxo

NAVI

• something
• Shao
• Cloud
• vo0kashu
• ANGE1

FUT

• cNed
• qRaxs
• ATA KAPTAN
• yetujey
• Mr FaliN

KOI

• kamo
• kamyk
• paTiTek
• grubinho
• BULD

APK

• kaajak
• Zyppan
• aNguiSt
• soulcas
• MOLSI

GX

• purp0
• Lar0k*
• PROFEK
• westside
• zeek

Last row of each team is the IGL
*not yet VCT eligible (under 18)

Sadly it's not to the tune of Kung Fu Fighting

Basically, who do you think is the best player with the least amount of haters.

Maybe GEN s3xture of PRX f0reskiN for me

If Zyppan joins Liquid, I hope he gets Shao and ANGE1 with him. They've been together since 2020 I think.

Derke, Shao, Zyppan, nAts, ANGE1 is a good team. ANGE1 is the only weak link but they need an IGL. If nAts IGLs then they can get Ruxic instead of ANGE1

Liquid so you'll get used to pain

If we're being serious though, a roster of

Duelist - Alfajer
Initiator - Leo
Flex - Chronicle
Sentinel - vo0kashu
Controller / IGL - Boaster

looks really good

NAVI buys something out of PRX

Duelist - something
Initiator - Shao
Initiator / Flex - Sheydos
Sentinel - SUYGETSU
Controller / IGL - ANGE1

The first letters of their names together spell out "ASSSS" so it's perfect

FNC

• Alfajer
• Leo
• Chronicle
• hiro
• Boaster

TH

• Miniboo
• RieNs
• Wo0t
• benjyfishy
• Boo

VIT

• Sayf
• trexx
• paTiTek
• Sheydos
• ceNder

NAVI

• something
• Cloud
• purp0
• SUYGETSU
• Redgar

TL

• Derke
• Shao
• Zyppan
• nAts
• ANGE1

NAVI breaks up but the core trio of Shao, Zyppan, and ANGE1 move to Liquid

Duelist - Derke
Initiator - Shao
Flash Initiator / Flex - Zyppan
Sentinel - nAts
Controller / IGL - ANGE1

Biased but Chronicle is still my EMEA GOAT

aspas
MaKo
nAts
RieNs
Chronicle

ZmjjKK
TenZ
Meteor
trexx
Leo

49k votes update:

1. EDG ZmjjKK
2. GEN t3xture
3. EDG CHICHOO
4. LEV aspas
5. EDG Smoggy
6. TH RieNs
7. SEN zekken
8. GEN Karon
9. FNC Chronicle
10. FNC Derke

35k votes update:

1. EDG ZmjjKK
2. GEN t3xture
3. EDG CHICHOO
4. LEV aspas
5. TH RieNs
6. SEN zekken
7. FNC Chronicle
8. FNC Derke
9. EDG Smoggy
10. GEN Meteor

25k votes update:

1. GEN t3xture
2. EDG ZmjjKK
3. TH RieNs
4. LEV aspas
5. EDG CHICHOO
6. SEN zekken
7. FNC Chronicle
8. GEN Karon
9. GEN Meteor
10. FNC Derke

10k votes update:

1. EDG ZmjjKK
2. GEN t3xture
3. LEV aspas
4. SEN zekken
5. FNC Derke
6. TH RieNs
7. GEN Meteor
8. GEN Karon
9. SEN TenZ
10. FNC Chronicle

The website won't tell you to stop, it'll just keep giving you choices.

My brother in Christ, there is no end. You can stop by just closing the website...