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Send ur hot takes and i will rate them

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#1
H3ENnZ

Can be anything but politics or discrimination, keep it mainly centered about valorant.
If I dont know about things you are talking about I wont reply and someone else can rate them
My rating standards:

0- Braindead take + You cant be justified in any ways
1- You should keep it to yourself
2- I see whatchu going for but hell nah
3- Average opinion that can be justified but boring
4- Very standard opinion but if you change some parts/takes of it it could be a 5
5- Nicely done never seen before very wise

#2
AstroGalaxy
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I dont think demon 1 was under used I think he just didnt care and he got lazy

chet was right to cut him

#6
H3ENnZ
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3 for the first one just because his gf tweeted about her sickness and how demon1 had to take care of her

3 Yes the snake was right

#8
Galactc
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Nah because how do you forget how to utilise a world champ he literally wasn't playing his role at all and how did ethan not try anything that nrg team was honestly something else everyone just suddenly felt like succing ass because they thought having a team of 5 international event winners and a coach of the same caliber made them win everything

#42
meanie
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is that why Chet got booted off the org to look for a CS 2 opportunity while Demon1 is currently a figurehead for a tier 1 powerhouse? retarded SEN flairs always trying to be lowball NA’s hero, even going as far as to believe Chet smh

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Galactc
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Valorant community has standards on players that are too high a good amount of good players are disregarded for literally no reason

#4
AstroGalaxy
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W take

#7
H3ENnZ
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4.5

Very nice words used and good takes

#5
z12
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I think that fragging igls are not the way forward. Having 4 shooters and one guy who can hit sub par shots is ok. which leads into the main part of my take Boaster is a really good igl and will be relevant for at least a couple more years.

ange1 is however the greatest fucking igl itw

#9
H3ENnZ
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This can either be a 2 or a 5

5 shooters > 4 shooters and one guy who can hit sub par shots

#10
z12
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all im gonna say is that karrigan and aleksib are doing well as igls that have sub par shooting abilities but really good util and calling and cs has had a lot of time to grow

#11
Galactc
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Tbf it also doesn't help that boaster keeps giving himself shit buys because he thinks he can't do anything he's actually not that bad mechanically he needs some confidence

#15
H3ENnZ
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I would assume that its from the shit talks and his knowledge of his personal abilities but yea

#17
z12
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i kinda agree with you but i think it is justified that he buys shit loadouts like i would much rather alfajer have the vandal tbh

#89
Two_Percent
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problem is he often likes to call weak side/strong side defenses, where he plays weak side retake. He essentially holds a weak side down with a bad gun and bad aim, on agents that arent the best for solo site holds.

#43
Two_Percent
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ange1 is barely an igl, the only future he has is in an elderly care facility

#58
8kunai
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fns>

#12
femboyenjoyer
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this honestly should not be a hot take but marved>yay

#16
H3ENnZ
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Yay had a better peak but marved was nuts as well

#13
acels
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demon1 is a lazy bum
yayster has a huge ego
aspas is a baiter

#18
H3ENnZ
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Someone mentioned the first one already
Yes everyone has an ego especially when they were the best player itw
And no i heard this way too many times even tho it might be true

#14
Mapusaurus
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if guild were able to pick up twisten in 2022 before lcq, they wouldve won champs

#19
H3ENnZ
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Cant comment on this but Guild had a stacked roster so 3 because loud and optic still gonna win anyways

#20
Hades_Loves_Rb
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boaster gets hated on for the same reasons FNS is praised. Thats to say Boaster gets hate for not fragging well even though his calling has led his team to 2 trophies and many regional titles, while FNS is praised for his amazing calling while being the worst fragger in the leauge (no hate to either just calling out double standard)

Also
Duelists moving to other roles because they dislike duelist despite how good they are on it is STUPID (only when they arent as good on the role they changed to so Mako/Forsaken dont count as they are better on those roles). Woot is a better duelist than minibum, Sayf was a better duelist than Runner and is a better duelist than Derke, Leaf was a better duelist than Icy, etc.

#22
H3ENnZ
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5 Valid take imo Boaster had too much success and thats why ppl hate on him for letting his team down

3 I guess people can choose what they are most comfortable with, star duelist had to take tons of pressure from the fans bc of the expectations.
Look at wo0t he was once one of the best duelists itw but crumbled in pressure at GF in shanghai

#24
Soddalele
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the sayf->derke statement imo is only in neon meta, every other meta id say derke clears

#21
KyLZi
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The hate for Boaster is retaliation for Yay hate in some fucked up way

#25
H3ENnZ
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?

Can you expand on this a bit further because i have no idea what ur talking abt

#36
KyLZi
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After FNC wasn't as successful as they were, I think its possible that fans started hating on Boaster because they saw how Yay was being treated after his success in 2022 and wrongfully starting hating boaster in a similar fashion? idk came up with it on the spot

#37
H3ENnZ
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I guess a 2?

I can see why u think of that but i cant really justify it

#23
4ch1p4p4
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LOCK//IN was one of the best events ever (and I'm not saying this as a FNC fan).

#28
H3ENnZ
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Def not the best events IMO but Lock in is overhated

#29
Soddalele
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its not underrated as a tourny, only as an accomplishment.

the tourny itself i think most people really liked

#26
Pras1mos
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Duelist its the most easy role to farm RR in rankeds

I am hated for giving rude responses, to rude peoples, basiclly bc i fight back.

Demon1 still not in his prime, he still has potential.

#31
H3ENnZ
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4 If you are good with duelist, you farm rr. If you are bad with them u just cant win. Clove is better imo even tho i hate them

0-5 Idk this depends on people

3 By the looks of 2024 no but any talks are too early before LEV demon1s debut

#27
Blurek
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Boaster is the best igl oat

#33
H3ENnZ
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Cant justify for u

#30
Cluckyistaken
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Reyna is the worst duelist.

You can't entry , your flash is easily breakable. Only reason it somehow works in ranked is lot of the time people have no patience and so they dry peek everything. If you playing against people who are good/know how to play the game , reyna won't find you much value.

#35
H3ENnZ
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Depends either ranked or pro play
Clove is a pretty shit agent but u can still climb with them

#61
Cluckyistaken
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Overall.

Compared to other controllers clove is shit, and yea you can climb up with any agent.

#66
H3ENnZ
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I dont really fw with clove that much but she is pretty good tbh comparing to astra where u and ur team cant comprehend each other

#32
LycheeBlade
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The overhyping around Primmie will ultimately lead to Primmie receiving equal or greater levels of hate as Yay/Boaster if he doesn't perform this season. He's a great player and awesome to watch but people are touting him as the GOAT after only a handful of tier 1 games, which I think is delusional and is only going to make things worse if Talon don't make Champions this year.

#34
H3ENnZ
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I dont think he is receiving AS MUCH hype as Yay 2024 or Sen 2023 or nrg 2024 but ur right one day he will crumble and everyone will call him a fraud

#38
saebr
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Nah

#39
bees
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  • Ascent is the second-worst map (after Breeze)
  • Fracture is the best map
  • Neon is balanced
  • The worst part about Valorant is its toxic and weak-mental playerbase, not anything Riot directly does
  • Boostio is the best igl in NA
#54
H3ENnZ
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1 Ascent is fine imo Abyss deserves more hate
1 No thanks maybe im just too silver to understand the fracture hype
3 Kinda agrees but shes just annoying to play against
4 Def there are some beyond bearable activities but ur right most of valorant players have weak mental
4 dont rly know his game hes fine in IGL tho

#40
OCARINA
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•GX and TL will be the underdogs of emea and will qualify to internationals at least once
•C9 will do somethings impressive
•sayf is about to write history of becoming the worst IGL in the scène
•China will never win another international ever
•Verno and wo0t will fight to get the throne of the best player in the world

#55
H3ENnZ
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3 By the looks of their roster they arent cooking much
4 I would put C9 as the underdogs but same as GX and TL they arent meant for greatness
4 ScreaM
2 not in the near future (2 years) but def will
2 dont get the verno hype he is insane but will he play good in tier one

#41
cloudberry
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I think Vyse's popularity thus far (or lack thereof) is a great indicator that Skye can get her recharge back, or maybe even a shorter one than what she had before, without reinitiating the Skye meta.

Let me explain.

Flashes that doubled as information gathering used to be so overpowered that it wasn't really worth considering playing any other initiators. However, Vyse's flash gives you about as much information, you can place it in positions a Skye flash could never consistently reach, you can swing off it without needing to reequip your gun or readjust your crosshair placement OR you can instantly activate it from the other side of the map, and you can even reuse it after 20 seconds instead of 45—and all that isn't consdering the fact that this is on a sentinel with a trip, so you have room in your comp for another agent that you wouldn't've had if you played Skye because you'd've needed an info sentinel such as Killjoy and Cypher.

I understand the agent's new, and that we've only seen offseason tournaments being played since her release, and that people aren't gonna be as good with her as they are with Skye. But if the flash alone warranted Skye a 56% pickrate at Champions 2023, and Vyse fills that role (with a better and more frequent flash, mind you) in addition to another necessary role that she covers as well, then not seeing Vyse being picked by any team other than T1 so far (correct me if I'm wrong), then that's enough evidence to me that Skye can have her cooldown back (maybe even a 30s one instead of a 45s one) without being a dominant initiator in the game, even with Bind, Split, and Pearl in the map pool. And honestly, I don't think she'll be considered more than she already was on any map other than Abyss, which is a map whose meta isn't clearly defined yet anyway.

(If you're wondering why this was so long, I was gonna make this a thread but decided to just drop it here instead 😅)

#45
Meand4idiots
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The thing that made skye's flash so strong was that it was so versatile as both a killing tool and an info tool.

The nerf reduced the abilities scope so that skye sat in more of a middle ground between selfish play (pop flashing) and info gathering.

It caused players to get smarter about their utility instead of "oh but it'll recharge in x seconds", this is also why gecko has been so strong, its almost impossible to not get value when he has twice the utilnof other agents.

Anyway to sum up, vyse isn't that popular because she's locked into a specific playstyle and most ppl didn't mesh with it. Skye is perfectly fine where she is and the flash helped overall health of the game. The upcoming gecko changes will likely reduce the amount of times he can use util either by extended cooldown or a switch to non rechargables.

#48
cloudberry
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That's a great point, but I kinda feel like she's just underwheling without rechargable flashes. If I were Riot I'd experiment with giving her flash a minimum time the bird has to fly before you can pop it (something like 0.4 seconds seems pretty good in my head)

#46
Upstander123
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The thing is that Vyse has mid util all around, while Skye has a very good kit. Vyse has pretty much only her flash, while Skye has two flashes + dog + a heal. Vyse's wall is crap, the other thing is ???, and ult is mediocre at best. Skye has the best flash in the game, a free space maker that can be traded out, and a excellent piece of util for pistols. The Skye ult is ridiculously good as well.

#57
H3ENnZ
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5 Phoenix flash recharge = skye needs her flash back idc if anyone say phoenix is a duelist thx

#44
donut2612
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GenG are winning every event in 2025

#59
H3ENnZ
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0 Where is shame :(

#47
Yuh_aye
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Primmie can't be considered the best player mechanically until he also proves to be an elite awper

Putting him behind KangKang, Texture, and even others like Cryo and Oxy until proven otherwise

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H3ENnZ
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5

#49
SuperRoss
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Primmie easily has the best aim since cNed

give him some more time in pro play and a better team and you'll see

#50
bobwoblob
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cNed 💀

#62
H3ENnZ
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1 Stop comparing Primmie with cNed he peaked in 2021 it is incomparable

#51
GambleNats
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EDG nobody is currently a top 3 igl itw and was the main reason EDG won champs
Haodong is a great player and his bad performance in EDG 2024 was due to the a failure in the system
apparently thinking t1 will be a top team next year is a hot take
Player history should be addressed and punished but afterwards it shouldnt be used against them

#63
H3ENnZ
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4 Nobodys IGL is good
5 Thank you
4 I guess they will do fine but idk they are just no giving superteam or DRX 2022 vibe
3 Kinda agrees but kinda doesnt cause im soft (Im not complimenting myself)

#52
SaikiNumber2
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Leo Faria isnt a braindead person and Riot games is doing the best it can to support Tier 1 esport.

#53
GambleNats
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real take

#64
H3ENnZ
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Good take

#56
dort
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sizzling take:
EDG will continue being good in 2025 after neon nerfs

#65
H3ENnZ
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Dort finally giving an actual take without being braindeaded

#67
bees
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dort W

#68
Aayan
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dort????
cooking??????
someone wake me up

#79
dort
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i said sizzling take because i know they wont be good
edg is finished once neon gets nerfed

#69
lordooohyeaa
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why u typing like u some high-profile person and everyone is dying to get your opinion. who r u

#70
H3ENnZ
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Im not lol its for fun.

#74
lordooohyeaa
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ITS NOT FUN.

#80
H3ENnZ
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Then dont give ur hot take idk what are u trying to say

#71
roy
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Spurs are winning a trophy this season.

#72
Shadow_Monarch
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SPG will do well and make it to Masters Bangkok.
Oxy and V1c will play well and help C9 make Masters Bangkok.
Zander will play well and help 100T make Masters Bangkok.
Verno will play well and help NRG make Masters Bangkok.
D4v41 will bring PRX back to Masters Playoffs in Bangkok.
Team Liquid will also make it to Masters Bangkok.
Fnatic era is over.

#76
sideshowsbaldhead
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this is a joke i think but i really can’t tell

#81
H3ENnZ
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2 I dont see them qualifying with only 2 seats
3 In v1c i trust
4 Kinda?
3 Oh my verno hype
2 Oh my PRX cope
2 Most unbelievable troll
4 No way!!!

#73
Dybala21
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NRG 2024 "superteam" failed not because of Chet but because the management didn't sign a proven IGL

#82
H3ENnZ
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U could blame on chet but ethan is too good to not take

#75
Aayan
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kaajak revitalises the whole team (everyone needs to pull a bit of extra weight to help the rookie adjust) and we see a FNC akin to the 2023 era
they win 1 trophy

(schizo + cope)

#83
H3ENnZ
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5 dont know much about kaajak but sounds about right

#77
tserc
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The weakest team in VCT Pacific is not who we think it is.

It might be either BME (if sScary doesn't join them) or TS

#85
H3ENnZ
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I still dont trust in DFM even tho their roster is suppose to be promising

#91
cloudberry
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They beat Talon, if that helps

#78
Trykan
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Pro teams should learn economy management more. There have been too many times I see a team starting the round with 1 player at 7k and another at like 1k credits

#87
H3ENnZ
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2

#84
KClaw
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Heretics didn't choke in the champs finals, edg was just highly better with kk refusing to lose, Tenz isn't the face of Valorant and Valorant is too young rn to have a face , Vitality could fail next year considering tho they are consisting of super players none their could be role issues, PRx will never win a trophy( I highly want them to), they have kept making the same mistake for the past 3 years ,

#86
H3ENnZ
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Wasnt the two takes from me or do u just have the exact same take

5

4

#88
TEHMANISDINGIN
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Botssi is good player

#90
thenutoriousPRO
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People who act like a "flex" role exists are braindead and know nothing about val esports

#92
localkoolkid
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Then what are players called that can play multiple roles

#93
localkoolkid
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Zyppan, Fit1nho, Kieko, and Patitek are the most underrated players in EMEA (Maybe the whole game, because EMEA is often underrated as is)

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