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#1
H3ENnZ

Can be anything but politics or discrimination, keep it mainly centered about valorant.
If I dont know about things you are talking about I wont reply and someone else can rate them
My rating standards:

0- Braindead take + You cant be justified in any ways
1- You should keep it to yourself
2- I see whatchu going for but hell nah
3- Average opinion that can be justified but boring
4- Very standard opinion but if you change some parts/takes of it it could be a 5
5- Nicely done never seen before very wise

#2
AstroGalaxy
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I dont think demon 1 was under used I think he just didnt care and he got lazy

chet was right to cut him

#3
Galactc
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Valorant community has standards on players that are too high a good amount of good players are disregarded for literally no reason

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AstroGalaxy
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Galactc [#3]

Valorant community has standards on players that are too high a good amount of good players are disregarded for literally no reason

W take

#5
z12
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I think that fragging igls are not the way forward. Having 4 shooters and one guy who can hit sub par shots is ok. which leads into the main part of my take Boaster is a really good igl and will be relevant for at least a couple more years.

ange1 is however the greatest fucking igl itw

#6
H3ENnZ
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AstroGalaxy [#2]

I dont think demon 1 was under used I think he just didnt care and he got lazy

chet was right to cut him

3 for the first one just because his gf tweeted about her sickness and how demon1 had to take care of her

3 Yes the snake was right

#7
H3ENnZ
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Galactc [#3]

Valorant community has standards on players that are too high a good amount of good players are disregarded for literally no reason

4.5

Very nice words used and good takes

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Galactc
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AstroGalaxy [#2]

I dont think demon 1 was under used I think he just didnt care and he got lazy

chet was right to cut him

Nah because how do you forget how to utilise a world champ he literally wasn't playing his role at all and how did ethan not try anything that nrg team was honestly something else everyone just suddenly felt like succing ass because they thought having a team of 5 international event winners and a coach of the same caliber made them win everything

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H3ENnZ
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z12 [#5]

I think that fragging igls are not the way forward. Having 4 shooters and one guy who can hit sub par shots is ok. which leads into the main part of my take Boaster is a really good igl and will be relevant for at least a couple more years.

ange1 is however the greatest fucking igl itw

This can either be a 2 or a 5

5 shooters > 4 shooters and one guy who can hit sub par shots

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z12
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H3ENnZ [#9]

This can either be a 2 or a 5

5 shooters > 4 shooters and one guy who can hit sub par shots

all im gonna say is that karrigan and aleksib are doing well as igls that have sub par shooting abilities but really good util and calling and cs has had a lot of time to grow

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Galactc
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z12 [#5]

I think that fragging igls are not the way forward. Having 4 shooters and one guy who can hit sub par shots is ok. which leads into the main part of my take Boaster is a really good igl and will be relevant for at least a couple more years.

ange1 is however the greatest fucking igl itw

Tbf it also doesn't help that boaster keeps giving himself shit buys because he thinks he can't do anything he's actually not that bad mechanically he needs some confidence

#12
femboyenjoyer
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this honestly should not be a hot take but marved>yay

#13
acels
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demon1 is a lazy bum
yayster has a huge ego
aspas is a baiter

#14
Mapusaurus
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if guild were able to pick up twisten in 2022 before lcq, they wouldve won champs

#15
H3ENnZ
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Galactc [#11]

Tbf it also doesn't help that boaster keeps giving himself shit buys because he thinks he can't do anything he's actually not that bad mechanically he needs some confidence

I would assume that its from the shit talks and his knowledge of his personal abilities but yea

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H3ENnZ
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femboyenjoyer [#12]

this honestly should not be a hot take but marved>yay

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Yay had a better peak but marved was nuts as well

#17
z12
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Galactc [#11]

Tbf it also doesn't help that boaster keeps giving himself shit buys because he thinks he can't do anything he's actually not that bad mechanically he needs some confidence

i kinda agree with you but i think it is justified that he buys shit loadouts like i would much rather alfajer have the vandal tbh

#18
H3ENnZ
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acels [#13]

demon1 is a lazy bum
yayster has a huge ego
aspas is a baiter

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Someone mentioned the first one already
Yes everyone has an ego especially when they were the best player itw
And no i heard this way too many times even tho it might be true

#19
H3ENnZ
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Mapusaurus [#14]

if guild were able to pick up twisten in 2022 before lcq, they wouldve won champs

Cant comment on this but Guild had a stacked roster so 3 because loud and optic still gonna win anyways

#20
Hades_Loves_Rb
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boaster gets hated on for the same reasons FNS is praised. Thats to say Boaster gets hate for not fragging well even though his calling has led his team to 2 trophies and many regional titles, while FNS is praised for his amazing calling while being the worst fragger in the leauge (no hate to either just calling out double standard)

Also
Duelists moving to other roles because they dislike duelist despite how good they are on it is STUPID (only when they arent as good on the role they changed to so Mako/Forsaken dont count as they are better on those roles). Woot is a better duelist than minibum, Sayf was a better duelist than Runner and is a better duelist than Derke, Leaf was a better duelist than Icy, etc.

#21
KyLZi
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The hate for Boaster is retaliation for Yay hate in some fucked up way

#22
H3ENnZ
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Hades_Loves_Rb [#20]

boaster gets hated on for the same reasons FNS is praised. Thats to say Boaster gets hate for not fragging well even though his calling has led his team to 2 trophies and many regional titles, while FNS is praised for his amazing calling while being the worst fragger in the leauge (no hate to either just calling out double standard)

Also
Duelists moving to other roles because they dislike duelist despite how good they are on it is STUPID (only when they arent as good on the role they changed to so Mako/Forsaken dont count as they are better on those roles). Woot is a better duelist than minibum, Sayf was a better duelist than Runner and is a better duelist than Derke, Leaf was a better duelist than Icy, etc.

5 Valid take imo Boaster had too much success and thats why ppl hate on him for letting his team down

3 I guess people can choose what they are most comfortable with, star duelist had to take tons of pressure from the fans bc of the expectations.
Look at wo0t he was once one of the best duelists itw but crumbled in pressure at GF in shanghai

#23
4ch1p4p4
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LOCK//IN was one of the best events ever (and I'm not saying this as a FNC fan).

#24
Soddalele
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Hades_Loves_Rb [#20]

boaster gets hated on for the same reasons FNS is praised. Thats to say Boaster gets hate for not fragging well even though his calling has led his team to 2 trophies and many regional titles, while FNS is praised for his amazing calling while being the worst fragger in the leauge (no hate to either just calling out double standard)

Also
Duelists moving to other roles because they dislike duelist despite how good they are on it is STUPID (only when they arent as good on the role they changed to so Mako/Forsaken dont count as they are better on those roles). Woot is a better duelist than minibum, Sayf was a better duelist than Runner and is a better duelist than Derke, Leaf was a better duelist than Icy, etc.

the sayf->derke statement imo is only in neon meta, every other meta id say derke clears

#25
H3ENnZ
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KyLZi [#21]

The hate for Boaster is retaliation for Yay hate in some fucked up way

?

Can you expand on this a bit further because i have no idea what ur talking abt

#26
Pras1mos
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Duelist its the most easy role to farm RR in rankeds

I am hated for giving rude responses, to rude peoples, basiclly bc i fight back.

Demon1 still not in his prime, he still has potential.

#27
Blurek
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Boaster is the best igl oat

#28
H3ENnZ
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4ch1p4p4 [#23]

LOCK//IN was one of the best events ever (and I'm not saying this as a FNC fan).

4

Def not the best events IMO but Lock in is overhated

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Soddalele
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4ch1p4p4 [#23]

LOCK//IN was one of the best events ever (and I'm not saying this as a FNC fan).

its not underrated as a tourny, only as an accomplishment.

the tourny itself i think most people really liked

#30
Cluckyistaken
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Reyna is the worst duelist.

You can't entry , your flash is easily breakable. Only reason it somehow works in ranked is lot of the time people have no patience and so they dry peek everything. If you playing against people who are good/know how to play the game , reyna won't find you much value.

#31
H3ENnZ
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Pras1mos [#26]

Duelist its the most easy role to farm RR in rankeds

I am hated for giving rude responses, to rude peoples, basiclly bc i fight back.

Demon1 still not in his prime, he still has potential.

4 If you are good with duelist, you farm rr. If you are bad with them u just cant win. Clove is better imo even tho i hate them

0-5 Idk this depends on people

3 By the looks of 2024 no but any talks are too early before LEV demon1s debut

#32
LycheeBlade
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The overhyping around Primmie will ultimately lead to Primmie receiving equal or greater levels of hate as Yay/Boaster if he doesn't perform this season. He's a great player and awesome to watch but people are touting him as the GOAT after only a handful of tier 1 games, which I think is delusional and is only going to make things worse if Talon don't make Champions this year.

#33
H3ENnZ
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Blurek [#27]

Boaster is the best igl oat

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Cant justify for u

#34
H3ENnZ
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LycheeBlade [#32]

The overhyping around Primmie will ultimately lead to Primmie receiving equal or greater levels of hate as Yay/Boaster if he doesn't perform this season. He's a great player and awesome to watch but people are touting him as the GOAT after only a handful of tier 1 games, which I think is delusional and is only going to make things worse if Talon don't make Champions this year.

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I dont think he is receiving AS MUCH hype as Yay 2024 or Sen 2023 or nrg 2024 but ur right one day he will crumble and everyone will call him a fraud

#35
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Cluckyistaken [#30]

Reyna is the worst duelist.

You can't entry , your flash is easily breakable. Only reason it somehow works in ranked is lot of the time people have no patience and so they dry peek everything. If you playing against people who are good/know how to play the game , reyna won't find you much value.

Depends either ranked or pro play
Clove is a pretty shit agent but u can still climb with them

#36
KyLZi
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H3ENnZ [#25]

?

Can you expand on this a bit further because i have no idea what ur talking abt

After FNC wasn't as successful as they were, I think its possible that fans started hating on Boaster because they saw how Yay was being treated after his success in 2022 and wrongfully starting hating boaster in a similar fashion? idk came up with it on the spot

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H3ENnZ
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KyLZi [#36]

After FNC wasn't as successful as they were, I think its possible that fans started hating on Boaster because they saw how Yay was being treated after his success in 2022 and wrongfully starting hating boaster in a similar fashion? idk came up with it on the spot

I guess a 2?

I can see why u think of that but i cant really justify it

#38
saebr
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LycheeBlade [#32]

The overhyping around Primmie will ultimately lead to Primmie receiving equal or greater levels of hate as Yay/Boaster if he doesn't perform this season. He's a great player and awesome to watch but people are touting him as the GOAT after only a handful of tier 1 games, which I think is delusional and is only going to make things worse if Talon don't make Champions this year.

Nah

#39
bees
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  • Ascent is the second-worst map (after Breeze)
  • Fracture is the best map
  • Neon is balanced
  • The worst part about Valorant is its toxic and weak-mental playerbase, not anything Riot directly does
  • Boostio is the best igl in NA
#40
OCARINA
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•GX and TL will be the underdogs of emea and will qualify to internationals at least once
•C9 will do somethings impressive
•sayf is about to write history of becoming the worst IGL in the scène
•China will never win another international ever
•Verno and wo0t will fight to get the throne of the best player in the world

#41
cloudberry
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I think Vyse's popularity thus far (or lack thereof) is a great indicator that Skye can get her recharge back, or maybe even a shorter one than what she had before, without reinitiating the Skye meta.

Let me explain.

Flashes that doubled as information gathering used to be so overpowered that it wasn't really worth considering playing any other initiators. However, Vyse's flash gives you about as much information, you can place it in positions a Skye flash could never consistently reach, you can swing off it without needing to reequip your gun or readjust your crosshair placement OR you can instantly activate it from the other side of the map, and you can even reuse it after 20 seconds instead of 45—and all that isn't consdering the fact that this is on a sentinel with a trip, so you have room in your comp for another agent that you wouldn't've had if you played Skye because you'd've needed an info sentinel such as Killjoy and Cypher.

I understand the agent's new, and that we've only seen offseason tournaments being played since her release, and that people aren't gonna be as good with her as they are with Skye. But if the flash alone warranted Skye a 56% pickrate at Champions 2023, and Vyse fills that role (with a better and more frequent flash, mind you) in addition to another necessary role that she covers as well, then not seeing Vyse being picked by any team other than T1 so far (correct me if I'm wrong), then that's enough evidence to me that Skye can have her cooldown back (maybe even a 30s one instead of a 45s one) without being a dominant initiator in the game, even with Bind, Split, and Pearl in the map pool. And honestly, I don't think she'll be considered more than she already was on any map other than Abyss, which is a map whose meta isn't clearly defined yet anyway.

(If you're wondering why this was so long, I was gonna make this a thread but decided to just drop it here instead 😅)

#42
meanie
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AstroGalaxy [#2]

I dont think demon 1 was under used I think he just didnt care and he got lazy

chet was right to cut him

is that why Chet got booted off the org to look for a CS 2 opportunity while Demon1 is currently a figurehead for a tier 1 powerhouse? retarded SEN flairs always trying to be lowball NA’s hero, even going as far as to believe Chet smh

#43
Two_Percent
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z12 [#5]

I think that fragging igls are not the way forward. Having 4 shooters and one guy who can hit sub par shots is ok. which leads into the main part of my take Boaster is a really good igl and will be relevant for at least a couple more years.

ange1 is however the greatest fucking igl itw

ange1 is barely an igl, the only future he has is in an elderly care facility

#44
donut2612
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GenG are winning every event in 2025

#45
Meand4idiots
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cloudberry [#41]

I think Vyse's popularity thus far (or lack thereof) is a great indicator that Skye can get her recharge back, or maybe even a shorter one than what she had before, without reinitiating the Skye meta.

Let me explain.

Flashes that doubled as information gathering used to be so overpowered that it wasn't really worth considering playing any other initiators. However, Vyse's flash gives you about as much information, you can place it in positions a Skye flash could never consistently reach, you can swing off it without needing to reequip your gun or readjust your crosshair placement OR you can instantly activate it from the other side of the map, and you can even reuse it after 20 seconds instead of 45—and all that isn't consdering the fact that this is on a sentinel with a trip, so you have room in your comp for another agent that you wouldn't've had if you played Skye because you'd've needed an info sentinel such as Killjoy and Cypher.

I understand the agent's new, and that we've only seen offseason tournaments being played since her release, and that people aren't gonna be as good with her as they are with Skye. But if the flash alone warranted Skye a 56% pickrate at Champions 2023, and Vyse fills that role (with a better and more frequent flash, mind you) in addition to another necessary role that she covers as well, then not seeing Vyse being picked by any team other than T1 so far (correct me if I'm wrong), then that's enough evidence to me that Skye can have her cooldown back (maybe even a 30s one instead of a 45s one) without being a dominant initiator in the game, even with Bind, Split, and Pearl in the map pool. And honestly, I don't think she'll be considered more than she already was on any map other than Abyss, which is a map whose meta isn't clearly defined yet anyway.

(If you're wondering why this was so long, I was gonna make this a thread but decided to just drop it here instead 😅)

The thing that made skye's flash so strong was that it was so versatile as both a killing tool and an info tool.

The nerf reduced the abilities scope so that skye sat in more of a middle ground between selfish play (pop flashing) and info gathering.

It caused players to get smarter about their utility instead of "oh but it'll recharge in x seconds", this is also why gecko has been so strong, its almost impossible to not get value when he has twice the utilnof other agents.

Anyway to sum up, vyse isn't that popular because she's locked into a specific playstyle and most ppl didn't mesh with it. Skye is perfectly fine where she is and the flash helped overall health of the game. The upcoming gecko changes will likely reduce the amount of times he can use util either by extended cooldown or a switch to non rechargables.

#46
Upstander123
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cloudberry [#41]

I think Vyse's popularity thus far (or lack thereof) is a great indicator that Skye can get her recharge back, or maybe even a shorter one than what she had before, without reinitiating the Skye meta.

Let me explain.

Flashes that doubled as information gathering used to be so overpowered that it wasn't really worth considering playing any other initiators. However, Vyse's flash gives you about as much information, you can place it in positions a Skye flash could never consistently reach, you can swing off it without needing to reequip your gun or readjust your crosshair placement OR you can instantly activate it from the other side of the map, and you can even reuse it after 20 seconds instead of 45—and all that isn't consdering the fact that this is on a sentinel with a trip, so you have room in your comp for another agent that you wouldn't've had if you played Skye because you'd've needed an info sentinel such as Killjoy and Cypher.

I understand the agent's new, and that we've only seen offseason tournaments being played since her release, and that people aren't gonna be as good with her as they are with Skye. But if the flash alone warranted Skye a 56% pickrate at Champions 2023, and Vyse fills that role (with a better and more frequent flash, mind you) in addition to another necessary role that she covers as well, then not seeing Vyse being picked by any team other than T1 so far (correct me if I'm wrong), then that's enough evidence to me that Skye can have her cooldown back (maybe even a 30s one instead of a 45s one) without being a dominant initiator in the game, even with Bind, Split, and Pearl in the map pool. And honestly, I don't think she'll be considered more than she already was on any map other than Abyss, which is a map whose meta isn't clearly defined yet anyway.

(If you're wondering why this was so long, I was gonna make this a thread but decided to just drop it here instead 😅)

The thing is that Vyse has mid util all around, while Skye has a very good kit. Vyse has pretty much only her flash, while Skye has two flashes + dog + a heal. Vyse's wall is crap, the other thing is ???, and ult is mediocre at best. Skye has the best flash in the game, a free space maker that can be traded out, and a excellent piece of util for pistols. The Skye ult is ridiculously good as well.

#47
Yuh_aye
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Primmie can't be considered the best player mechanically until he also proves to be an elite awper

Putting him behind KangKang, Texture, and even others like Cryo and Oxy until proven otherwise

#48
cloudberry
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Meand4idiots [#45]

The thing that made skye's flash so strong was that it was so versatile as both a killing tool and an info tool.

The nerf reduced the abilities scope so that skye sat in more of a middle ground between selfish play (pop flashing) and info gathering.

It caused players to get smarter about their utility instead of "oh but it'll recharge in x seconds", this is also why gecko has been so strong, its almost impossible to not get value when he has twice the utilnof other agents.

Anyway to sum up, vyse isn't that popular because she's locked into a specific playstyle and most ppl didn't mesh with it. Skye is perfectly fine where she is and the flash helped overall health of the game. The upcoming gecko changes will likely reduce the amount of times he can use util either by extended cooldown or a switch to non rechargables.

That's a great point, but I kinda feel like she's just underwheling without rechargable flashes. If I were Riot I'd experiment with giving her flash a minimum time the bird has to fly before you can pop it (something like 0.4 seconds seems pretty good in my head)

#49
SuperRoss
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Primmie easily has the best aim since cNed

give him some more time in pro play and a better team and you'll see

#50
bobwoblob
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SuperRoss [#49]

Primmie easily has the best aim since cNed

give him some more time in pro play and a better team and you'll see

cNed 💀

#51
GambleNats
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EDG nobody is currently a top 3 igl itw and was the main reason EDG won champs
Haodong is a great player and his bad performance in EDG 2024 was due to the a failure in the system
apparently thinking t1 will be a top team next year is a hot take
Player history should be addressed and punished but afterwards it shouldnt be used against them

#52
SaikiNumber2
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Leo Faria isnt a braindead person and Riot games is doing the best it can to support Tier 1 esport.

#53
GambleNats
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SaikiNumber2 [#52]

Leo Faria isnt a braindead person and Riot games is doing the best it can to support Tier 1 esport.

real take

#54
H3ENnZ
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bees [#39]
  • Ascent is the second-worst map (after Breeze)
  • Fracture is the best map
  • Neon is balanced
  • The worst part about Valorant is its toxic and weak-mental playerbase, not anything Riot directly does
  • Boostio is the best igl in NA

1 Ascent is fine imo Abyss deserves more hate
1 No thanks maybe im just too silver to understand the fracture hype
3 Kinda agrees but shes just annoying to play against
4 Def there are some beyond bearable activities but ur right most of valorant players have weak mental
4 dont rly know his game hes fine in IGL tho

#55
H3ENnZ
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OCARINA [#40]

•GX and TL will be the underdogs of emea and will qualify to internationals at least once
•C9 will do somethings impressive
•sayf is about to write history of becoming the worst IGL in the scène
•China will never win another international ever
•Verno and wo0t will fight to get the throne of the best player in the world

3 By the looks of their roster they arent cooking much
4 I would put C9 as the underdogs but same as GX and TL they arent meant for greatness
4 ScreaM
2 not in the near future (2 years) but def will
2 dont get the verno hype he is insane but will he play good in tier one

#56
dort
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sizzling take:
EDG will continue being good in 2025 after neon nerfs

#57
H3ENnZ
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cloudberry [#41]

I think Vyse's popularity thus far (or lack thereof) is a great indicator that Skye can get her recharge back, or maybe even a shorter one than what she had before, without reinitiating the Skye meta.

Let me explain.

Flashes that doubled as information gathering used to be so overpowered that it wasn't really worth considering playing any other initiators. However, Vyse's flash gives you about as much information, you can place it in positions a Skye flash could never consistently reach, you can swing off it without needing to reequip your gun or readjust your crosshair placement OR you can instantly activate it from the other side of the map, and you can even reuse it after 20 seconds instead of 45—and all that isn't consdering the fact that this is on a sentinel with a trip, so you have room in your comp for another agent that you wouldn't've had if you played Skye because you'd've needed an info sentinel such as Killjoy and Cypher.

I understand the agent's new, and that we've only seen offseason tournaments being played since her release, and that people aren't gonna be as good with her as they are with Skye. But if the flash alone warranted Skye a 56% pickrate at Champions 2023, and Vyse fills that role (with a better and more frequent flash, mind you) in addition to another necessary role that she covers as well, then not seeing Vyse being picked by any team other than T1 so far (correct me if I'm wrong), then that's enough evidence to me that Skye can have her cooldown back (maybe even a 30s one instead of a 45s one) without being a dominant initiator in the game, even with Bind, Split, and Pearl in the map pool. And honestly, I don't think she'll be considered more than she already was on any map other than Abyss, which is a map whose meta isn't clearly defined yet anyway.

(If you're wondering why this was so long, I was gonna make this a thread but decided to just drop it here instead 😅)

5 Phoenix flash recharge = skye needs her flash back idc if anyone say phoenix is a duelist thx

#58
8kunai
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z12 [#5]

I think that fragging igls are not the way forward. Having 4 shooters and one guy who can hit sub par shots is ok. which leads into the main part of my take Boaster is a really good igl and will be relevant for at least a couple more years.

ange1 is however the greatest fucking igl itw

fns>

#59
H3ENnZ
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donut2612 [#44]

GenG are winning every event in 2025

0 Where is shame :(

#60
H3ENnZ
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Yuh_aye [#47]

Primmie can't be considered the best player mechanically until he also proves to be an elite awper

Putting him behind KangKang, Texture, and even others like Cryo and Oxy until proven otherwise

5

#61
Cluckyistaken
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H3ENnZ [#35]

Depends either ranked or pro play
Clove is a pretty shit agent but u can still climb with them

Overall.

Compared to other controllers clove is shit, and yea you can climb up with any agent.

#62
H3ENnZ
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SuperRoss [#49]

Primmie easily has the best aim since cNed

give him some more time in pro play and a better team and you'll see

1 Stop comparing Primmie with cNed he peaked in 2021 it is incomparable

#63
H3ENnZ
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GambleNats [#51]

EDG nobody is currently a top 3 igl itw and was the main reason EDG won champs
Haodong is a great player and his bad performance in EDG 2024 was due to the a failure in the system
apparently thinking t1 will be a top team next year is a hot take
Player history should be addressed and punished but afterwards it shouldnt be used against them

4 Nobodys IGL is good
5 Thank you
4 I guess they will do fine but idk they are just no giving superteam or DRX 2022 vibe
3 Kinda agrees but kinda doesnt cause im soft (Im not complimenting myself)

#64
H3ENnZ
0
Frags
+
SaikiNumber2 [#52]

Leo Faria isnt a braindead person and Riot games is doing the best it can to support Tier 1 esport.

4

Good take

#65
H3ENnZ
7
Frags
+
dort [#56]

sizzling take:
EDG will continue being good in 2025 after neon nerfs

4

Dort finally giving an actual take without being braindeaded

#66
H3ENnZ
0
Frags
+
Cluckyistaken [#61]

Overall.

Compared to other controllers clove is shit, and yea you can climb up with any agent.

I dont really fw with clove that much but she is pretty good tbh comparing to astra where u and ur team cant comprehend each other

#67
bees
1
Frags
+
dort [#56]

sizzling take:
EDG will continue being good in 2025 after neon nerfs

dort W

#68
Aayan
4
Frags
+
dort [#56]

sizzling take:
EDG will continue being good in 2025 after neon nerfs

dort????
cooking??????
someone wake me up

#69
lordooohyeaa
-4
Frags
+

why u typing like u some high-profile person and everyone is dying to get your opinion. who r u

#70
H3ENnZ
0
Frags
+
lordooohyeaa [#69]

why u typing like u some high-profile person and everyone is dying to get your opinion. who r u

Im not lol its for fun.

#71
roy
0
Frags
+

Spurs are winning a trophy this season.

#72
Shadow_Monarch
0
Frags
+

SPG will do well and make it to Masters Bangkok.
Oxy and V1c will play well and help C9 make Masters Bangkok.
Zander will play well and help 100T make Masters Bangkok.
Verno will play well and help NRG make Masters Bangkok.
D4v41 will bring PRX back to Masters Playoffs in Bangkok.
Team Liquid will also make it to Masters Bangkok.
Fnatic era is over.

#73
Dybala21
1
Frags
+

NRG 2024 "superteam" failed not because of Chet but because the management didn't sign a proven IGL

#74
lordooohyeaa
-4
Frags
+
H3ENnZ [#70]

Im not lol its for fun.

ITS NOT FUN.

#75
Aayan
1
Frags
+

kaajak revitalises the whole team (everyone needs to pull a bit of extra weight to help the rookie adjust) and we see a FNC akin to the 2023 era
they win 1 trophy

(schizo + cope)

#76
sideshowsbaldhead
0
Frags
+
Shadow_Monarch [#72]

SPG will do well and make it to Masters Bangkok.
Oxy and V1c will play well and help C9 make Masters Bangkok.
Zander will play well and help 100T make Masters Bangkok.
Verno will play well and help NRG make Masters Bangkok.
D4v41 will bring PRX back to Masters Playoffs in Bangkok.
Team Liquid will also make it to Masters Bangkok.
Fnatic era is over.

this is a joke i think but i really can’t tell

#77
tserc
1
Frags
+

The weakest team in VCT Pacific is not who we think it is.

It might be either BME (if sScary doesn't join them) or TS

#78
Trykan
0
Frags
+

Pro teams should learn economy management more. There have been too many times I see a team starting the round with 1 player at 7k and another at like 1k credits

#79
dort
-5
Frags
+
Aayan [#68]

dort????
cooking??????
someone wake me up

i said sizzling take because i know they wont be good
edg is finished once neon gets nerfed

#80
H3ENnZ
7
Frags
+
lordooohyeaa [#74]

ITS NOT FUN.

Then dont give ur hot take idk what are u trying to say

#81
H3ENnZ
0
Frags
+
Shadow_Monarch [#72]

SPG will do well and make it to Masters Bangkok.
Oxy and V1c will play well and help C9 make Masters Bangkok.
Zander will play well and help 100T make Masters Bangkok.
Verno will play well and help NRG make Masters Bangkok.
D4v41 will bring PRX back to Masters Playoffs in Bangkok.
Team Liquid will also make it to Masters Bangkok.
Fnatic era is over.

2 I dont see them qualifying with only 2 seats
3 In v1c i trust
4 Kinda?
3 Oh my verno hype
2 Oh my PRX cope
2 Most unbelievable troll
4 No way!!!

#82
H3ENnZ
0
Frags
+
Dybala21 [#73]

NRG 2024 "superteam" failed not because of Chet but because the management didn't sign a proven IGL

4

U could blame on chet but ethan is too good to not take

#83
H3ENnZ
0
Frags
+
Aayan [#75]

kaajak revitalises the whole team (everyone needs to pull a bit of extra weight to help the rookie adjust) and we see a FNC akin to the 2023 era
they win 1 trophy

(schizo + cope)

5 dont know much about kaajak but sounds about right

#84
KClaw
2
Frags
+

Heretics didn't choke in the champs finals, edg was just highly better with kk refusing to lose, Tenz isn't the face of Valorant and Valorant is too young rn to have a face , Vitality could fail next year considering tho they are consisting of super players none their could be role issues, PRx will never win a trophy( I highly want them to), they have kept making the same mistake for the past 3 years ,

#85
H3ENnZ
0
Frags
+
tserc [#77]

The weakest team in VCT Pacific is not who we think it is.

It might be either BME (if sScary doesn't join them) or TS

4

I still dont trust in DFM even tho their roster is suppose to be promising

#86
H3ENnZ
0
Frags
+
KClaw [#84]

Heretics didn't choke in the champs finals, edg was just highly better with kk refusing to lose, Tenz isn't the face of Valorant and Valorant is too young rn to have a face , Vitality could fail next year considering tho they are consisting of super players none their could be role issues, PRx will never win a trophy( I highly want them to), they have kept making the same mistake for the past 3 years ,

Wasnt the two takes from me or do u just have the exact same take

5

4

#87
H3ENnZ
0
Frags
+
Trykan [#78]

Pro teams should learn economy management more. There have been too many times I see a team starting the round with 1 player at 7k and another at like 1k credits

2

#88
TEHMANISDINGIN
-2
Frags
+

Botssi is good player

#89
Two_Percent
1
Frags
+
z12 [#17]

i kinda agree with you but i think it is justified that he buys shit loadouts like i would much rather alfajer have the vandal tbh

problem is he often likes to call weak side/strong side defenses, where he plays weak side retake. He essentially holds a weak side down with a bad gun and bad aim, on agents that arent the best for solo site holds.

#90
thenutoriousPRO
-4
Frags
+

People who act like a "flex" role exists are braindead and know nothing about val esports

#91
cloudberry
-1
Frags
+
H3ENnZ [#85]

4

I still dont trust in DFM even tho their roster is suppose to be promising

They beat Talon, if that helps

#92
localkoolkid
1
Frags
+
thenutoriousPRO [#90]

People who act like a "flex" role exists are braindead and know nothing about val esports

Then what are players called that can play multiple roles

"Flex" means flexible, just means they can suit multiple different needs for a team

Not a hard concept to understand brother

#93
localkoolkid
0
Frags
+

Zyppan, Fit1nho, Kieko, and Patitek are the most underrated players in EMEA (Maybe the whole game, because EMEA is often underrated as is)

Also Demon1 was a one season wonder

#94
KClaw
0
Frags
+
H3ENnZ [#86]

Wasnt the two takes from me or do u just have the exact same take

5

4

It's from me

#95
KClaw
0
Frags
+

Lol has no kind of import rule in their world wide teams while valo has one, I think valo should also not have such import rule for bringing only one import and why cause some regions have extraordinary unused talent that could definitely be helpful to other teams , like take NA t2 for example some real goated individuals but due to being a single import rule all of them can't get a t1 team as Americas t1 already has much talent and when it comes to it, other region teams wouldn't want to take an import pro who can fulfill a role other than igl or duelist unless they already have top class pros for that roles

#96
Ultia
0
Frags
+

Aspas isn’t even in the top 5 best duelists itw rn.

#97
localkoolkid
0
Frags
+
Ultia [#96]

Aspas isn’t even in the top 5 best duelists itw rn.

lowkey may be facts, top 5 player 100%, duelist top 10 but maybe not 5

#98
redlight
0
Frags
+

Players should be learn how to be flexible. Yes there’s a risk of them underperforming because they aren’t accustomed to the agent, but it proves their future potential. One-agent players or players with limited agents in one role risk hindering the development of a team because they don’t wish to flex over. Obviously this is a due process, but one that should be encouraged.

#99
Denggysaurus
0
Frags
+

Less, with Vitality in 2025, will become the first player to win 2 Champions

#100
Warlordwibz
1
Frags
+
  1. Remove BR and LATAM client and just have Americas region client. Mexico Server serves as the “HK server” of Americas to facilitate SA and NA. SA teams can scrim NA teams (and vice versa).
  2. Restructure the MENA region. MENA is heavily neglected in EMEA and my solution is to let ME countries to become “west Asia” just like in regular sports and integrate them to South Asia scene in pacific. Kazakhstan and ME countries are never gonna catch up to Europe, putting them in South Asia will bring competitiveness in the Saudi/India scene, benefit the players development and Dubai/bahrain server act as good ping for all parties.
#101
CurryCooker
0
Frags
+

Pineapple belongs on Pizza.

#102
bees
0
Frags
+
thenutoriousPRO [#90]

People who act like a "flex" role exists are braindead and know nothing about val esports

How the fuck is that braindead? What else do you call the role of the player who flexes between flash ini, secondary controller, and/or senti depending on map?

Examples in 2024 include Mazino, Zellsis, JonahP, and Chronicle. They don't fit cleanly into any of the four defined roles.

#103
Tsikhamani
0
Frags
+

Vlr people hype a player who farmed in dead regions, just to see them get owned in T1

#104
Whysoseriousss
0
Frags
+

Aspas 2024 is a very efficient stats padding machine . He will just trade his dead teammates untill its 1v2 and 1v3 and then 90 percent of time he will go for exit kills . His vlr rating doesn't reflect in his teams winning / losing.

#105
KClaw
0
Frags
+

ig GenG made it to playoffs of champs there's a high chance they could have won it all, it's always like that for them they always start slow and this has been seen in all the three internationals , they had a really bad day against sentinels.

#106
cameran
0
Frags
+

KC wouldve made champs if they beat FNC in playoffs and didnt sell

#107
SaikiNumber2
0
Frags
+
Warlordwibz [#100]
  1. Remove BR and LATAM client and just have Americas region client. Mexico Server serves as the “HK server” of Americas to facilitate SA and NA. SA teams can scrim NA teams (and vice versa).
  2. Restructure the MENA region. MENA is heavily neglected in EMEA and my solution is to let ME countries to become “west Asia” just like in regular sports and integrate them to South Asia scene in pacific. Kazakhstan and ME countries are never gonna catch up to Europe, putting them in South Asia will bring competitiveness in the Saudi/India scene, benefit the players development and Dubai/bahrain server act as good ping for all parties.

good take

#108
Simp4S0m
0
Frags
+

EG will be insane next year if they sign Victor (and we will see a Phoenix masterclass from him next year)

#109
Asunas_Chinese_Teacher
0
Frags
+

100T is not making any finals in 2025

#110
SuperRoss
0
Frags
+
H3ENnZ [#62]

1 Stop comparing Primmie with cNed he peaked in 2021 it is incomparable

Primmie wasn't playing in 2021?

#111
smthlikeyou11
0
Frags
+
dort [#79]

i said sizzling take because i know they wont be good
edg is finished once neon gets nerfed

dort take backfired

#112
z12
1
Frags
+
Two_Percent [#43]

ange1 is barely an igl, the only future he has is in an elderly care facility

my goat will drop 50 on yoru in regulation against team shiteritics and karmine crap

#113
Two_Percent
-1
Frags
+
z12 [#112]

my goat will drop 50 on yoru in regulation against team shiteritics and karmine crap

wake up wake up

#114
z12
0
Frags
+
Two_Percent [#113]

wake up wake up

45*

#115
Two_Percent
-1
Frags
+
z12 [#114]

45*

he goes 4/17 on a good day

#116
z12
0
Frags
+
Two_Percent [#115]

he goes 4/17 on a good day

he posts up better stats than those even on a horrid day for him ngl

#117
H3ENnZ
1
Frags
+
SuperRoss [#110]

Primmie wasn't playing in 2021?

Compare to someone that peaked in 2024

#118
H3ENnZ
0
Frags
+
thenutoriousPRO [#90]

People who act like a "flex" role exists are braindead and know nothing about val esports

0

#119
H3ENnZ
0
Frags
+
KClaw [#95]

Lol has no kind of import rule in their world wide teams while valo has one, I think valo should also not have such import rule for bringing only one import and why cause some regions have extraordinary unused talent that could definitely be helpful to other teams , like take NA t2 for example some real goated individuals but due to being a single import rule all of them can't get a t1 team as Americas t1 already has much talent and when it comes to it, other region teams wouldn't want to take an import pro who can fulfill a role other than igl or duelist unless they already have top class pros for that roles

4

China will just "abuse" this rule tbh but for other region its cool to see

#120
H3ENnZ
0
Frags
+
Ultia [#96]

Aspas isn’t even in the top 5 best duelists itw rn.

3

Bro is not escaping the baiting allegations

#121
H3ENnZ
0
Frags
+
redlight [#98]

Players should be learn how to be flexible. Yes there’s a risk of them underperforming because they aren’t accustomed to the agent, but it proves their future potential. One-agent players or players with limited agents in one role risk hindering the development of a team because they don’t wish to flex over. Obviously this is a due process, but one that should be encouraged.

4

Being mastered at one or two agent is better than learning how to play every agent but still mid at it. Not saying that players should only be in their comfort zone

#122
H3ENnZ
0
Frags
+
Warlordwibz [#100]
  1. Remove BR and LATAM client and just have Americas region client. Mexico Server serves as the “HK server” of Americas to facilitate SA and NA. SA teams can scrim NA teams (and vice versa).
  2. Restructure the MENA region. MENA is heavily neglected in EMEA and my solution is to let ME countries to become “west Asia” just like in regular sports and integrate them to South Asia scene in pacific. Kazakhstan and ME countries are never gonna catch up to Europe, putting them in South Asia will bring competitiveness in the Saudi/India scene, benefit the players development and Dubai/bahrain server act as good ping for all parties.

4

4

Im not good at geography but sounds reasonable

#123
Two_Percent
0
Frags
+
z12 [#116]

he posts up better stats than those even on a horrid day for him ngl

he might as well go 4/17 with the way he calls

#124
H3ENnZ
0
Frags
+
CurryCooker [#101]

Pineapple belongs on Pizza.

10

Thanks for saying the truth

#125
H3ENnZ
0
Frags
+
Whysoseriousss [#104]

Aspas 2024 is a very efficient stats padding machine . He will just trade his dead teammates untill its 1v2 and 1v3 and then 90 percent of time he will go for exit kills . His vlr rating doesn't reflect in his teams winning / losing.

5

Good take

#126
H3ENnZ
0
Frags
+
KClaw [#105]

ig GenG made it to playoffs of champs there's a high chance they could have won it all, it's always like that for them they always start slow and this has been seen in all the three internationals , they had a really bad day against sentinels.

4

Even if they made it to playoffs i still dont see them winning champs bc of lakias overall performance.

#127
Kirya
0
Frags
+

difficulty of switching and learning new roles is overrated
especially in pro play where everyone has good fundamentals

#128
H3ENnZ
0
Frags
+
cameran [#106]

KC wouldve made champs if they beat FNC in playoffs and didnt sell

5

Valid take if they kept their kickoff form i can even see them beating either vit or th if everyone on the team is online

#129
SuperRoss
0
Frags
+
H3ENnZ [#117]

Compare to someone that peaked in 2024

it was the second sunday of december 2021.

upon berlin, the sky, which was clear, abruptly darkened,
thunderbolts and lightnings (very very frightening) and other stuff darted from the gloomy skies,
such a terrible sight was rarely ever seen before by mankind.

suddenly, from the clouds that his all-powerful hands teared apart, appeared in a limelight the head of the god of valorant (a good looking man, in his fourties),
whom points down with his allmighty index finger towards the rito gams arena,
and he said:" Mehmet "cNed" Yağız İpek, take your mouse, click with it, and go teach the world how to play val"

and Mehmet won champs.

#130
H3ENnZ
0
Frags
+
Simp4S0m [#108]

EG will be insane next year if they sign Victor (and we will see a Phoenix masterclass from him next year)

3

EG still looks rough with victor if he is ever added

#131
H3ENnZ
0
Frags
+
Asunas_Chinese_Teacher [#109]

100T is not making any finals in 2025

5

Time to learn some chinese

#132
H3ENnZ
0
Frags
+
Kirya [#127]

difficulty of switching and learning new roles is overrated
especially in pro play where everyone has good fundamentals

4

Pros still have areas where they are not comfortable with

#133
Anguibok
0
Frags
+

"no politics/religion" is the worst rule you can ever made on a Valorant forum, and many point are heavily tied between politics and videogames

#134
H3ENnZ
1
Frags
+
Anguibok [#133]

"no politics/religion" is the worst rule you can ever made on a Valorant forum, and many point are heavily tied between politics and videogames

Can either be a 1 or a 5 imo

Im not a big fan of tying politics with anything but sometimes u just have to do it

#135
Anguibok
0
Frags
+
H3ENnZ [#134]

Can either be a 1 or a 5 imo

Im not a big fan of tying politics with anything but sometimes u just have to do it

The Schrödinger take ^-^

#136
cioccolat
-2
Frags
+

2025 SPLIT PREDS
C9 25 will be ass
100T 25 will be MID as hell
FURIA will place 12th and completely mald the entire region of BR, Mwzera will retire
LOUD will have their T1 license resigned
NRG will only qualify for one international
Leviatan will not win any tournaments whatsoever, be it VCT or Internationals
G2 will go to atleast 2 internationals

Players
Asuna is only relevant because of his braindead aiming style
Demon1 & c0m are system players, they are overrated when out of said systems
Mwzera will never be good enough to be The Star Player, he is a "sum of all parts" player
Potter is a great coach for trophies thats limited by her budget (10 man roster worked)
Havoc does not deserve his spot in franchising
Tuyz can reach Less's level in the Sentinel role but wont due to his strategically lacking roster

MISC
Bring back the instakill bucky rightclick
MIBR with NZR and Aspas is the only chance that org will have of winning an international for the next 3 years, if they dont spend money to make the proper team they will never be relevant

#137
MrBlooBloom
0
Frags
+
z12 [#10]

all im gonna say is that karrigan and aleksib are doing well as igls that have sub par shooting abilities but really good util and calling and cs has had a lot of time to grow

making an absolute statement just makes no sense, obviously 4 shooters and a great igl is a proven way of building a worldchampion roster but there is no way 5 shooters is not good, but it's just way more recent and hasn't competed that much yet, but it will abviously be working (Sen, EDG, G2 etc...). There is no absolute rule, that's all we can say

#138
askrial
0
Frags
+

icy deserves to be in t1
the frenzy is the worst gun in the game
pcfic (now bbl pcfic) deserve to be in t1 more than m8s do
GE shouldn't have gotten a franchising spot
m80 will never make it to t1

#139
K4ziuHa
0
Frags
+

I swear every post from OP is so low effort, and reddit-like

#140
z12
2
Frags
+
MrBlooBloom [#137]

making an absolute statement just makes no sense, obviously 4 shooters and a great igl is a proven way of building a worldchampion roster but there is no way 5 shooters is not good, but it's just way more recent and hasn't competed that much yet, but it will abviously be working (Sen, EDG, G2 etc...). There is no absolute rule, that's all we can say

the reason a lot of igls have horrid stats is because a lot of the time they are more interested in calling which is extremely distracting. Igls that frag usually frag when they arent distracted giving calls. like stax isnt a fragging igl, he is usually at the bottom of the leaderboard but when he needs to shoot and there are no distractions he can shoot. My claim is that i would rather have my igl get very few kills but also get perfect util timing from the team and also get good calls. I think someone taking the time to micromanage a team will be a bigger addition than one that can frag. You dont always need this but i think this is the basis of my argument.

#141
z12
0
Frags
+
Two_Percent [#123]

he might as well go 4/17 with the way he calls

he has been good/decent for years his calling looked bad only during split 2 but we dont talk about that

#142
H3ENnZ
0
Frags
+
K4ziuHa [#139]

I swear every post from OP is so low effort, and reddit-like

Whats OP

#143
K4ziuHa
0
Frags
+
H3ENnZ [#142]

Whats OP

https://i.imgur.com/ZrMbGTm.png

#144
H3ENnZ
0
Frags
+
cioccolat [#136]

2025 SPLIT PREDS
C9 25 will be ass
100T 25 will be MID as hell
FURIA will place 12th and completely mald the entire region of BR, Mwzera will retire
LOUD will have their T1 license resigned
NRG will only qualify for one international
Leviatan will not win any tournaments whatsoever, be it VCT or Internationals
G2 will go to atleast 2 internationals

Players
Asuna is only relevant because of his braindead aiming style
Demon1 & c0m are system players, they are overrated when out of said systems
Mwzera will never be good enough to be The Star Player, he is a "sum of all parts" player
Potter is a great coach for trophies thats limited by her budget (10 man roster worked)
Havoc does not deserve his spot in franchising
Tuyz can reach Less's level in the Sentinel role but wont due to his strategically lacking roster

MISC
Bring back the instakill bucky rightclick
MIBR with NZR and Aspas is the only chance that org will have of winning an international for the next 3 years, if they dont spend money to make the proper team they will never be relevant

4
4
2 Not a BR hater but another br team will bottomfrag
Dont know about that one
5
4
4

3 Im not a fan of his aim style but at least he is hitting shots.
4
3
4
3
4

2
4

#145
H3ENnZ
0
Frags
+
K4ziuHa [#143]

https://i.imgur.com/ZrMbGTm.png

I still dont get what u meant by every post from OP is reddit like

#146
H3ENnZ
0
Frags
+
askrial [#138]

icy deserves to be in t1
the frenzy is the worst gun in the game
pcfic (now bbl pcfic) deserve to be in t1 more than m8s do
GE shouldn't have gotten a franchising spot
m80 will never make it to t1

3
5
4
2 They need someone to represent india i guess
3 unpopular opinion if m80 invests in valorant heavily in 2025 they might acc make franchising

#147
K4ziuHa
0
Frags
+
H3ENnZ [#145]

I still dont get what u meant by every post from OP is reddit like

reddit post = low quality karma farm

#148
z12
0
Frags
+
K4ziuHa [#147]

reddit post = low quality karma farm

at least it brings out comments that are creative and fun to read. there is no real incentive here either.

#149
H3ENnZ
0
Frags
+
K4ziuHa [#147]

reddit post = low quality karma farm

Whatever u say fam its great to see others with personalities unlike u

#150
MrBlooBloom
0
Frags
+
z12 [#140]

the reason a lot of igls have horrid stats is because a lot of the time they are more interested in calling which is extremely distracting. Igls that frag usually frag when they arent distracted giving calls. like stax isnt a fragging igl, he is usually at the bottom of the leaderboard but when he needs to shoot and there are no distractions he can shoot. My claim is that i would rather have my igl get very few kills but also get perfect util timing from the team and also get good calls. I think someone taking the time to micromanage a team will be a bigger addition than one that can frag. You dont always need this but i think this is the basis of my argument.

in a good team an igl shall not micro manage but rather trust his teammates to follow his calls and have a good coordination , if you'd like you igl to micro manage you i think you are the only problem. Just look at valyn, who would dare question his IGLing while he might the best shooting igl itw atm. +You seem to forget that in a team the IGL is far from being the only caller, there often is at least a second caller or a structure between a pre round caller ( the "actual" IGL) and at least one mid-round caller who also think about the round. I guess the only team w a strict structure (i'm not even sure tbh) is Fnatic, where indeed b0tster seems to be thinking the whole round crouched in a corner in his astral form, telling his teammates what to do

#151
Two_Percent
0
Frags
+
z12 [#141]

he has been good/decent for years his calling looked bad only during split 2 but we dont talk about that

he hasnt been good since 2022 be honest man

#152
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Two_Percent [#151]

he hasnt been good since 2022 be honest man

calling wise he has been good fragging wise he is a coinflip

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Here's my hot take.

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there should be no Game changers like it's made to promote equality but at the same time it hinders the process behing it .. worthy gc players playing in the mainstream scene like t2/t3 or may be t1 would solidify it . Game demands worth to be played at pro level so if you are worthy you get the worth .

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z12 [#152]

calling wise he has been good fragging wise he is a coinflip

His strats are abysmal and his fragging is questionable.

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