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Sideshow is crazy and jealous

He Is saying G2 is the best team at the end of the tournament
What is this bs?

G2 were the best team at the start of tournament

I agree with this statement

G2 were the best team until gf

I agree

But man G2 has veto advantage and ban their 2 worst maps and had their best 5 maps

T1 were continuously playing games from like thursday to Sunday

G2 has like 2 days break on which they can decide which 2 maps to ban, what to antistrat and all those stuff
2 whole days!!!!

And sideshow was saying if u play the game again G2 would have won

I mean ur analyst be serious man
There is GF for a reason, the pressure the stage the crowd everything is there

The team who performs the best in such environment on a given day is the best team of the tournament

Man they had full 2 map veto advantage and first pick advantage, what else do you need? Play same 3 maps and win such gf or Play gf on same day as lower final?

T1 is still the best team of the tournament

PLATCHAT is sometimes bs

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minus Bald

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Just wait for 1-2 more years these guys will celebrate making out of groups like they won Masters. We all seated for KR and CN takeover of another Riot game

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kr and cn takeover and its usually 1 kr team and edg

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As I said wait for 1-2 more years WEST wont even make out of groups

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yeah because NA and EU definitely doesnt have more talent than apac or CN in their respective tier 2s

this is a very brain damaged take, just watch a few tier 2 matches, turkey and US have insane futuresww

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I disagree with this take

I think the valorant is significantly different from LOL

META changes are huge, I think this game will be competitive between regions atleast next 5-10 years

After that china and kr may get slight edge if everything goes correct for them

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but I don't think t1 will win from now on in split 1 but G2 will

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Doesn't matter

T1 is the best team of Masters Bangkok

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yes i agree with this

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Without Abyss and Bind
T1 only need to worry about Lotus against G2

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And tbh the fact is if fracture or bind were in the pool as well then there's an over 60% chance T1 would have won both thosw maps as well

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U meant Fnatic ain't winning anything from split 1 ?

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no TL ain't winning from split 1 and bro how many times will you change flairs

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I am not even a liquid fan, nats was the first player i ever liked and thats why i put that and i have decided to put on flairs that whichever team hes gonna be in, also lets see how fnatic does man, fumbling derke

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Platchat looks like someone who would rip it offline 😂

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Discord 2 losing after 2 maps ban is funny asf. And t1 threw abyss lol. Its just copium from baldy.

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Stop insulting them for a different ordeal if you are criticising them for playing bad or something I would still take it

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Ronyko23

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playing bad bruh this team is best in the world for glazers.Perfect valorant bahahahahahahahhah

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I think what's he's trying to say is that g2 should have won and that t1 went on a Cinderella run. I disagree tho, I think t1 won fair and square and deserve the title as best team itw and winner of bangkok.

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Ive been saying they have some sort of hidden animosity and ego that they cannot fathom when an "inferior team" beats the superior one. Theyre all a bunch of dickhead wannabe intellectuals waiting and praying to rip into players and have a good laugh every week. The truth these nimbleheads will never accept is T1 was the better team and are the best team as of now

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If you truly think this way, why even give them the time of day? Don't watch their content, don't comment about their content, just leave and when you and everyone else who feels the same way does it, maybe they'll fade into oblivion like you want.

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No. They give their opinion, I give mine. You are nobody to tell me to mind my own business and even then I dont watch their podcasts I come across clips on reddit and tt. Its quite hard not caring about their opinion knowing that they commentate over games you know?

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i genuinely don't get this take. It is SO EASY to ignore shit you do not care about. You clearly want to engage with their content and do so very willingly. If you genuinely despised them you'd do everything in their power to not encounter their thoughts.

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What part of quite hard do you not understand? I HAVE TO ENGAGE WITH IT BECAUSE IT SHOWS UP ON MY FEED ARE YOU RETARDS OKAY??? I dont hate any of the casters but I dislike the fact that their biases are openly discussed without giving rightful credit to the deserved winner. Dont @ me again if youre gonna say the same shit about willingly engaging with their horrible takes

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alex_lab

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mad?

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babushka_boii95

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not mad I just dont like repeating myself when you misinterpret my point and take it offensively like they are your fathers or something

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TM06Nick

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you genuinely don't have to engage with it. the moment it says even the word Plat- you can just keep scrolling

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zetydy

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You're taking shit way to seriously bro. You're writing literal fanfiction about them wanting to clown on every player.

They spent a lot of time gassing up T1. More than G2 that episode, actually. They just also think G2 looked really good and was the best team over all at the event. They also think T1 is clearly at least second best team and is also really good. They are allowed to have opinions.

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Tbf everyone on t1 was negative

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The_Preacher

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Does it matter?

T1 still have trophy

Cry more on being negative

No one gonna remember after 1 year that they were negative

Everyone will remember that they won masters Bangkok and it was a great run

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I mean it does prove that it’s unlikely they will win another event

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The_Preacher

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Does it matter?

They were the best team for first 2 months of 2025, case closed

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No they weren’t, g2 were better until the grand final

The grand final had two OTs also, g2 probably should have won that

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sergueiessenine

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but they didnt so they were not the better team

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Because of two fluke OTs

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sounds like a you problem

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The_Preacher

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Thank God T1 won

Otherwise people would have spam this website with perfect valorant and all those bs

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both teams made mistakes bro, you can't say one team was better except for their mistakes, that's called not being better. i can just as easily claim t1 should have won abyss since the comeback was a fluke, and t1 would have won map 1 if they weren't tired from the previous day or something, so it should have been 5-0.

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keep crying

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Ronyko23

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cope.G2 lost after 2 maps ban. I guess perfect val isnt enough sadly.. G2 bo5 are always dodgy even sen almost won in na.

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The_Preacher

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Loud probably would have won icebox (11-3) like 8-9 outt of 10 times they play

But when it really matters they lost

I don't wanna argue more with a fool

" FRaNcE wouLd HaVe WoN worldcup if mbappe score

Buddy he didn't score when it mattered and they lost

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babushka_boii95

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he scored all 4 of the possible goals he couldve bro his teammates missed waht u on abt

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I would also like to make it clear that I don’t dislike t1

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are u Frogger0_0 alt?

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Womp womp G2 had a fucking map ban advantage and were up 8-4 on Split and had two map points on Pearl...

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I think G2 threw the map veto by giving T1 all of their best maps, but also G2 kept throwing rounds during the game as well lol.

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? T1 would beat g2 on fracture and bind any day ... g2 didnt have a choice ... t1 just had a better map pool and the better map pool team wins ... end of discussion

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T1's best maps are lotus, haven, split, and pearl. T1 looks best on their double duelist maps which bind isn't. I mostly think G2 shouldn't have let haven(one of t1's best maps) through and instead of bind.

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it's crazy, it's a hot take, it's cope

but I agree with eggman

G2 looked better throughout the tourney and even tho they "tossed" or "choked" the grand final, I think they were the better team

if nothing than from the eyetest I think it's the case

call me insane but it's a hot take from egg that I am on board with

but I'm still happy T1 won, it's an upset for a reason

let's not be hindsight harrys, no sane person had T1 above 5th going into Bangkok

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I think by the time T1 decimated edg everyone knew they had a chance against G2. You cannot have a set mindset in a game where all it takes is one thing to click for a team to change its course

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yes, they had a chance, but no one had them as favorites

I'm happy T1 won but it was an upset

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So you re saying that the best team did not win in Berlin, Champs 21', Berlin 22, Champs 22, Lock in, Champs 23, Shanghai and Champs 24. As far as i remember the teams that won those events werent the favourites so are you agreeing with this?

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berlin no, GMB were strong and Sen fell off
champs 21 yes, Acend was not the best team
berlin 22 didn't happen, if you mean copenhagen then yes I agree
champs 22 no, LOUD was 1 of the 2 best teams
Lock in yes, some people had FNC out against 100T lmao
champs 23 no, EG was seen as one of the strongest teams going into champs
shanghai no, GenG were seen as one of the strongest
champs yes, EDG were not seen as the best or even in the top 5 strongest teams

interesting thought experiment tho, appreciate it

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Champs 2022, loud literally got grouped in the previous event, noone in their right mind had them as favourites. Although I respect you upholding your logic, it's not a good logic.

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I'm not very good with logic true, but I will do a pro gamer move called "moving the goalpost"

Loud were a top 5, possibly top 3 team going into the event

also wasn't LOUD in the group of death at copenhagen?

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All I am saying is T1 is the best team in masters Bangkok as the won the tournament and is the best team in the world as of now

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that's such a hindsight harry, results-based analysis take

it's not wrong entirely but you can't just say that and have it be the ultimate truth

I personally don't think they were the best team in the world and they weren't even the best team in Bangkok JUST because they won

they're good, insane even. but not the best

they simply went on a run, and form is not the only thing that makes a team good

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Also ur saying G2 are the best team

Answer me the following

They had 2 ban advantage
They picked Abyss, their opponents perma ban, so basically they were 1 map up in bo5
They also picked 1st map of series
They had 2 extra of prep in which they knew what they were gonna ban and just get like 6-10 scrims for other maps
They can anti strat the hell out of their opponent(which was visible in lotus)
Also T1 played lower final just a day before GF, so they had negligible scrim practise, they only can vod review their maps and probably G2 map(only theory, no practise)

They still lost!!

I mean what more do you need

Why is T1 not the better team after the tournament ended?

There is a reason bo5 happens becoz we don't need any narrative that this team is better or that, result will speak for itself

They were probably the best team of tournament till GF

But after GF T1 was clearly better and clearly won the GF with such huge disadvantages

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"clearly won" is just not true

2/5 of those maps went to OT

both teams got their best maps

also I never said G2 were the best, I just said T1 aren't

as for the extra practice, did they know that they WILL play T1?
cuz I'm not sure about that

also at the risk of saying something stupid, I'll say T1 won on form alone and their ideas didn't look superior, which I said before form isn't the only thing that makes a team good

also you're saying that because T1 beat the best team they are now the best
but upsets happen all the time and this is no different

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Clearly winning means they won fair and square with all such disadvantages

I mean it's just 2 teams left in the tourney EDG And T1 and G2 will surely be watching lower final

T1 are better, stay in your delusion buddy

It doesn't matter even if their ideas weren't superior, they had their nerves calm and they know what's their strength and weakness are and they played on their strength

G2 have the option to play on T1 weak maps but they didn't, but they chose to play on G2s strength so this point of argument doesn't make any sense

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fair, but wording could have been better
yeah, and they could have played EDG for whom the prep might have and probably is different
rude
yes it does, had they not been in form they would have lost but I already know you don't do hypotheticals
which T1 maps were weak that G2 don't like to play on themselves? the map pool was strong for both teams

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Also with the upset part

They beat all#1 seeds

4 upsets in a row?

Lol
Lol
Lol

1st can be upset
2nd can be lucky
By 4th u have to agree that they are just better

If you are not agreeing, ur just delusional

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why are you bringing up something I never said

yes they beat all 1st seeds

are they all upsets? not really

I only called their G2 win an upset, you can argue EDG was an upset but I'm not willing to make that point

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I love the fact I got downvoted for this exact same take

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idk man maybe it's the reputation or the way you put it
sorry for your loss ig

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The_Preacher

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Also I had T1 as 3rd- 4th going into the tournament if and listen if they play with sylvan

Not the winners offcourse but above DRX,SEN LIQUID AND TRACE

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I heard you the 1st time no worries

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It’s probably just the way I phrased it. I’m just happy multiple people do agree with me though

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it's all opinions after all, I'm just here to hear them out and debate the ones I think I can

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lowk not wrong g2 wins that matchup 99 times out of 100

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i disagree, i think maybe 60 times out of 100 being generous

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pick me kekw

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They were better at haven split and pearl
Case closed

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Even Abyss, t1 just threw an unthrowable round

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Same could be said for G2 on split and pearl but T1 clutched through

Every thing in the universe takes optimal path
T1 is just better on haven,pearl,split

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Abyss is kinda bonus "surprise" from T1 for 2 reasons

It is T1's permaban
The agent comp is only playable for once because the gameplay is quite niche and has limited variation of strategies

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Sideshow was a bit of a "twat" as the britons call it

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Please stop with the microaggressions toward Asia already. Isn’t it just that pl0tch0t can’t retract their prediction of T1 finishing last at this point?

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thats bcos at the time they looked shaky. anyone who had them higher than 5th going into bangkok is lying or just wanting their fav team to win with no reasons to back it up.

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They were at best 6th before Bangkok if you were a supreme SEN hater like me. They didn't look good before bangkok and still don't look consistent. They just improved dramatically, which good on them, but doesn't rewrite history.

So many people want to be Hindsight Harry's on this site and pretend they knew the whole time because they've 0 integrity and are full of shite. G2 looked better before, and if you ran that final again 100 times, they'd probably win it more times than T1. That's not to devalue what T1 did especially since they're clearly better than the other 6 teams, but please rate teams off their gameplay and not JUST their results in hindsight.

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The team who gets the trophy is the best team in the moment and nothing changes. The team that didn’t win, shouldn’t be praised more than the team who won. Ever.

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Did we want the same bloody show? They were praising T1 more and had very little to actually say about G2.

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I lowkey feel like if Leaf's mom didn't pass away (RIP 😢) he would have showed up more and they would have won. It's still impressive how well he played despite that.

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Yeah the performance drop isn’t much but I think getting over it must’ve been hard for him especially when you have a major tournament to win as pressure

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Also in attacker Abyss and Pearl, T1 really targeted Leaf to enter the site

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Yeah but he was kinda missing shots he would normally land

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Wait... Holy!
I didn't even consider the fact that G2 had veto and still lost.
Makes the win even more impressive.
I mean, it's always nice seeing the team with a disadvantage win.

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I don't think sideshow said that because the grand finals were so close but rather because he said G2 were doing better the entire tournament in comparison to t1, but that take is so bullshit man like yeah in swiss stage definitely but in playoffs t1 started showing up heavy, they are downplaying t1 like t1 had a cindrella run , t1 didn't have a cindrella run, they improved on their game with every match they played and that's how they got good , g2 even had map veto and let's be real t1 would have won on both the bind and fracture as well, if t1 had some pretty normal games before the finals and then went on to win then it would have been true but this didn't happen. This happened with acend and that's why it's a fraudulent win like they had a pretty normal tornament and then dropped a giga banger performance against gambit to win it, that's fraudulent. Cause if u apply sideshow logic then we can even to some extent say that this happened even in the champs 23 where the best team of the tournament didn't win which was prx or Fnatic

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yeah its deffo more ab the consistency. i think it still makes it an upset bcos of the run up to the GF and they were 2nd seed from apac so like you could think of it that way. i see where hes coming from as G2 shouldnt be worried that theyre not one of the best they easily and arguable should have won it like you said w the veto n the timings they are favoured more. but T1 as of rn are the best team even tho G2 looked more consistent. they failed to deliver when it mattered.

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Neither china nor Korea ever have or ever will surpass Americas. But hold on to that hope for as long as you need until you can accept that fact.

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like How Ardiss yapping about EMEA

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Ardiss is a bafoon

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platchat for a reason

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Didn't hear him say that when sen won madrid it's just classic platchat bias