ah, that's why the option to keep them as NS academy is not possible. Was wondering the whole time

I see. I've only considered individual players rather than the whole team.

True. There's certainly too much room for fluke wins. aD will probably bomb out for example.

Yeah, make sense. I guess a lot of teams are using split 3 to experiment with stuff, since there's nothing really signifiacnt on the line. Most of them would probably be thinking that they could qualify through premier regardless for split 1

Bangnan jailed in DK, time to look out for an actually decent team.

Fennel can't compete this split cuz they changed too many of their players. Same for Scarz. I've heard that it's unclear if they'll be able to play in split 1 next year either.

I wasn't watching VCJ round robin recently, but how the hell did CGZ and SG bomb out? Who the fuck are these Delight and BABO guys? Only know Ask and Yowamu in BABO but how are they 3-0 against NFX and SG? Also, can't tell if aD qualifying over Striderz is fluke/luck or actual skill. All of these are so unexpected.

How the fuck did they lose to Sherpa

It's common in East Asia for big league sports teams to be owned by corporates.

Heard it's fucked because of cheats

Since there's a rumour concerning NS that they would acquire SPG and turn them into NS, would it be possible for NS to convert their current Challengers roster into NS Academy and retain the spot in Challengers KR?

Well, at least Zeta GC played in an international LAN this year.

That's also true. Though I think that's also something that has to do with how long League has been around, as well as how they've been putting a lot of work into video production the past few years post-Covid. Compared to that, with how packed the Champions match schedules are, and since they create teaser for every match day instead of each round, they don't really have time to produce quality teaser videos that are as memorable during Champions. I don't even need to go further in explaining this, since the differences in view counts between Worlds and Champions teasers speak for themselves. Upsides and downsides I guess. And since those teasers are so memorable, and since they use main theme in teasers as well, the main theme becomes song for the winners of that particular Worlds as well.

So yeah, I think there are things they could improve in terms of how they utilize main themes they create for Champions, and potentially with an orchestral theme they could create that could be used for every Champions.

Thanks my man. Exactly my point there. I would also add F1 as a recent addition.

Die For You and Ticking Away are good songs, but they ain't something they could use again and again forever. It would get stale at some point. I think part of it is due to having lyrics. Like, this year's grand finals teaser also used Die For You, but they would be better off to have something that could hit as emotional as Worlds Orchestral Theme.

An orchestral theme is not only versatile and has great longevity but most importantly very recognizable and memorable. Obviously not saying that they should use the orchestral theme in every single teaser and highlight/recap videos they make, but it's something you could always rely on if you need it. Especially if the main theme is too forgettable like this year's song.

wtf is Minecraft pvp supposed to even be 💀

After watching Worlds finals 2 days ago, and especially after revisiting the teaser video which might have been the best ever, I really think VCT needs an orchestral theme like Worlds. Like, this thing fucking slaps. They make a new version of this same song that came out in 2016 every year and it never gets old. Also it's very versatile. You could make it ultra hype or absolutely emotional, or both, depending on the edit. There were other great League themes like Piercing Light (football montage editors' favourite) or Summoner's Call (OG theme), but there's a reason LoL Esports stuck with this one song for 9 years. I'm very sure they will continue to use this song next year at Worlds, the next year after that, and so on. It's literally Worlds' version of Champions League Anthem.

With a very capable music team, I don't think it's asking too much of them. Maybe something orchestral doesn't suit what Riot wants as Valorant's image, quite apparent by musical style of past Val/VCT themes, but I still think an orchestral theme is better than anything else.

Sorry, HxH knock off from Temu and power fantasies are not accepted.

I blame Narou and Korean mass production fantasy novels for current literary disaster facing East Asians.

btw, who's your bet on player that wil play for Riddle in place of Aace in split 3?

The Long Ballad (長歌行) and Kalburim. None of that power fantasy crap. Actual quality story. None of your ctrl c+v webtoon bullshit.

Honourable mention : Gosu
Unfortunately became a power fantasy crap in the later half, but it was a good light hearted comedy with great visuals at the beginning.

Nothing to miss from negative aura person who backtracks on his good bye manifesto after making all the fuss. Even more so if he's an asshole ready to turn some innocent guy into a criminal.

Bro what are you talking about. There hasn't been a single Japanese player in the entire history of Korea Challengers, even counting First Strike days.

Fennel is more like Mittiii and 𝑮𝑶𝑵 𝑴𝑨𝑪𝑯𝑰𝑵𝑬...

you mean GON

Ain't no way Padres does Yu so dirty. The offense was fucking MK ultra'd into not hitting any runs.

L0kia hits again

Remember folks, never trust GenG when it comes to (World) Champions(hip)

The important question is to which hero he jacked off to

I'm going to post about the summary of Yukishiro and VDK's stream after the news broke. According to VDK they kinda told them by the end of July that things might go wrong and it might not happen in Tokyo, but rest assured, it will be alright. Man was fucking pissed

Though we should consider that sp.1 is always better in terms of view than sp.2 becuase of the long break there has been in valo pro scene. Also consider that CR is gone. Knowing that Murage, Riddle and Fennel are raking up all the viewers, it's quite understandable that the official account doesn't have much viewers these days. Everyone watches either on Mittiii's, Unkochan's or VDK's stream. Overall viewership performance was much better than it has been in 2023.

By long term effects, I mean fans generally losing hope and interest. When collective viewership goes down, then it's real bad.

I am with you IF (that's an important if) things are actually on Riot and Jake Sin to blame.

Because don't get me wrong, as someone who also have followed League esports for a long time, and especially route for minor regions, including LJL and CBLOL to do good, I saw how Riot is butchering them, especially the APAC teams with the creation of APAC League next year. I fucking hate it and I also thing the single elimination Ascension format was friggin ass.

But since we don't know any details of why exactly Ascension needs to move from Tokyo to Jakarta, I would reserve my blame. I found your strong words and opinions very misleading, so I was telling you that you should reserve your hate as well.

When they really are the frauds, go tell them to quite their job and become a McDonalds cashier or whatever, I don't mind.

This shit is bad long term. ID fans will love it, but consider yourself being a Japanese fan. Your teams shat the bed last year and there were zero home teams to cheer for in last Masters (although they still cheered for all the other teams that came to Japan and was overall a good atmosphere). Then this year your teams are continuing to shitting the bed in the Pacific League. You even hear that Laz might retire.

Then there is their T2 scene, which was very close to winning Ascension last year. They are your hope. With streamer teams like Murage and Riddle, the scene is more hype than ever before. They are probably just as good or better than Zeta and DFM in Pacific. You hear from various people in the scene, both Japanese pros, coaches and casters as well as foreign ones saying VCJ is the most competitive, and probably the strongest T2 region this year in Pacific.

Ascension is in Tokyo. You are hyped as fuck as an avid valo fan. You finally get to see an international LAN in Japan where a Japanese team will participate, and not just that, but also as a top-dog. Though the thing is, all of that is gone, just a month before the Ascension. You feel extremely let down.

Now imagine if RID doesn't win Ascension. Putting yourself in a Japanese fan's persepctive, you'll agree that you'll feel hopeless for your scene. You'll have to huff some copium and hope that DFM and Zeta will get their shit together and recruit top talents from VCJ and fix their shit, but that's not garaunteed.

A lot hang on Riddle's shoulders now. They are like JP scene's last hope.

It's not late to flame the fraud when it really becomes clear that Riot and Jake Sin fucked it up and Rage had to clear the shit up and become a scapegoat.

VCJ problems are not on Jake Sin bro. I know you hate him your guts because the original ascension format was ass (which, by the way things are going, might be due to restrictions imposed due to the conditions of holding Ascension in Japan) but if you are mad about something bad in VCJ blame RiotKohei.

I'll rather believe in VDK who's more in the know saying Rage and Riot should be ashamed and better themselves than someone on VLR though. You're already pinning it down on Jake Sin and Riot Pacific but the thing is no one knows of now if any of those theories are true are not.

Wild how you can talk with so much confidence without any evidence.

This again. Guy is still a fraud

One of the braindead fuck who spread the rape allegation is his stream mod.

Disrespectful and braindead mom + annoying ass fans + shit performance despite dodging military thanks to you mom = J0nggg

Keep on cooking fellow RC fan.

This match must've given this guy a small flashback about the reverse sweep 😹

since 1 hour ago 🤣🤣👋👋 blud punched his monitor and threw his phone and can't use VLR

keepy receipt

DFM is a bit complicated because they have the affiliation with CR. Will depend on the details of their partnership and if Ozizi has a say. Also what Ozizi thinks as well.

Obviously not something exclusive to Fennel, but it's far from class act nonetheless. At least from my impression, majority of the community ain't in favor of such crowd spoilers anywhere in the world.

yeah, that's the problem. Such fan culture not being a thing in VCJ until now means it will get the ones who start this kind of shit a lot of hate.

I've watched the finals on watch party streams so I haven't realized, but apparently some Fennel fans in the stadium had extremely bad attitude trying to give intels left right and center whenever Fennel was on a disadvatageous spot, whether it's a 1v1, lurk, etc.

From what I've seen on the YT VODs, some folks were literally screaming "above" when Seoldam was 1v1 against Clz on A site box, after which Clz did looked above, although he did so after quite a delay, so I'm not sure if it really gave him away the location of Seoldam.

Seems like Twitch chat on the main channel was a fucking mess as well because RID and neutral fans were noticeably pissed on FL fan attitude and YT comments have a lot of people dunking on FL fans as well.

There's even a new slang called "Macon", combining of pussy ("ma"ngko) and re"con", to make fun of all the fangirls screaming where the RID players were 💀

Flying from Hokkaido to Korea is no different than flying to Tokyo and longest domestic flights in Japan even if we don't count flights to and from Ryuku/Okinawa is still longer than flight to Incheon.

I'm conflicted on who to root for between Riddle, a team I've watched all year, or SPG and Persia, who's got like 2 years left before he's conscripted

Yeah, I'd say he has a much higher low, that's for sure

So most of you think that it's Syouta, Clz and Xdll?

Then, presuming you are a team owner of either Zeta or DFM and could take in two players, which do you choose between Clz and Xdll?