remember when people thought c9 with yay would be good then c9 without yay and two tier 3 pros ended up being better

unironically boaster would be a fragging igl if his team was worse

if there was a need for him to get more kills i think he would

yes

yes

you're retarded brah, they occupy the same space bro

false 9s and CAMs are both #10s, you asked who is the best 10 of all time, to say maradonna and messi aren't 10s because they're false 9s is retarded

doesnt matter if ozil and messi are different, they occupy the same space, the difference is ozil needs a striker ahead and messi doesnt because hes better

unironically decent if you remove soop and afreeca

have none tbh

not really they occupy the same spaces, a false 9 is a 10 but not all 10s are false 9s

NA would benefit a lot from riot allowing tier 2 to be less structured and have more teams

fnatic at champs are cursed

bro's still forcing the flex meme while NA is going through a sentinel drought

zekken's career ruined because JohnQT wants to roleplay as Chronicle

ngl i just dont think NA has enough talent to win anymore lol

tier 2 is drying up no more zekkens and vernos in the near future

cane is good but thats it

meanwhile emea and apac producing left and right

maybe SEN can squeeze out a good roster if they replace zellsis and john goes back to sentinel

this is my point, you bring up a rating system which literally just favors teams that win a lot of rounds in dominant fashion

im not saying chronicle doesnt contribute, but ive literally seen boaster get 1.3 ratings by just surviving in spawn vs gentle mates

just a stupid argument - and his EWC run was great, its one of the 2 or 3 times hes actually been the best player on his team at an event, it doesnt really help your case

i don't think you understand what im saying, im not calling chronicle bad

he's good at what he does, he shows up and he shoots, but i think a lot of players can do that if they played with sheydos, nats, crashies, boaster, alfajer, leo, redgar(prime), boaster, derke, kaajak

keep in mind the worst player chronicle has had to play with outside of 2022 is hiro or d3ff0.

do you get how INSANE that is lol

people really underestimate how important alfajer pressure is to the fnatic system on sentinel

if you sub in a passive senti like leo his stats wouldnt look as good and leo is just not the same player

alfajer is extremely good at converting unfavorable duels, while leo is the opposite, hes good at creating favorable duels - which don't really exist when you're playing in isolation

i think second duelist is by far n4rrates best role on KC

because playing on a superteam inflates rating, the trophies you win even if you don't get carried are easier, your opponent has other players to worry about, you never have to worry about internal issues (majority of players do)

you compare apples to oranges when you're talking about a player who has had nothing but a perfect situation their entire career vs someone who hasn't

if youre fine with passing scores do it if you need to apply for med school, you want a good ochem score so id wait for that

terrible comp either way and one game sample size is retarded

deadlock cypher is dogshit, vyse chamber is the best double senti, and vyse deadlock is second best

the only way we see john play sentinel now is if the sentinel is second senti (zellsis still played sentinel)

why do you think trophies matter when ranking best players all time when you admit that chronicle has always had a superteam

these are the people i argue with on vlr

i think its more about ethan being rare and impactful than being the goat

i think nats is the best player strictly at valorant but it doesnt mean sentinels are rare or sum

based on how easily replaceable they are, rare, importance to winning etc

gonna break it up like this, flex(forsaken/rb types), flash init, recon init, senti, entry duelist(jawg), controller, IGL, coach, management, refragger/awp(y0y,demon1),complete duelist(t0xture,aspas)

1/2 Management
1/2 Coach (interchangeable with 1 since typically in valorant coaches do have the ability to be the managers, but typically i think roster management>coaching long term)
3 IGL
gap
4/5 flex (like actually play any agent at VCT level flex, incredibly rare tbh)
4/5 flash init (hot take but there are very FEW high level flash specialists in VCT atm, there are good players that play flash initiator, but its rare to have a good flasher, and they impact a lot)
6 complete duelists (it is substantially harder to find a duelist who is an awper, entry, elite rifler, and can flex onto multiple duelists, a lot are VERY good at a some, few at all - t3xture is that)
7 recon init (leo, sacy, i think these players have the highest impact on matches typically vs other roles on average but are a little more common than elite complete duelist/flash/flex)
8 controller (important role but I feel like theres tons of players who do well on controller, especially in tier 2 coming up - in every region, for example NA has a fuck ton)
9 sentinel (some regions really lack sentinels, but I think a lot of players can easily go onto sentinel and do well, that being said I feel like there's more Less' than Leo's)
10 entry duelist (an elite entry like jawg or icy are really good at their roles, probably as good as you can get at being a entry, but you kinda need to have an all around game on duelist)
10 refragger/awp (kinda a dead role because teams used to have a set refragger(yay) and a set entry (victor) but still, awp merchants are cool until you realize theyre awp merchants)

I won't rank superstars since it kinda doesn't apply, but players like nats and meteor are probably right below or even above IGLs in terms of impact on winning and rarity, like true true superstars not players who hold hands to win trophies like chronicle, players who can go to any team and compete without superteams.

you dont have to be 40 to watch older players play, they have these devices that record the matches and allow you to watch them whenever you want

i am actually brazillian i grew up watching old football matches on youtube

and yes, messi plays as a #10, peep his heatmap in his 91 goal season, literally a deep lying CF

ardiis isnt really a duelist player, he only played jett because it used to be the only agent that could AWP

so putting him on kj/sage was the best call, other than playing him on initiator

victor is a much better duelist

got a huge buyout for a player that has always been easily replaceable lol

world class duelists are the most abundant resource in VCT

thats messis role brev but either way, give me neymar he plays as 10 for psg, ive seen kaka and zidane play, ronaldinho is better too

ozil is like 7th-8th

fnc has never fallen off because of NA management

ardiis got clout from bullying sick for having an actual mental illness, just t0xic

that fat boar was a waste of money #emeaspy

big events are increasing tbh

Its more about the teams than riot tbh

if they beat prx in groups theyll def make champs but likeeee only way they win is if they out-retard prx

wait nvm prx is in their group omegalul yeah talon isnt going to champs 😹

they wont play PRX in playoffs until UF if they finish as 1 seed and win their first match,

killua and thyy were good pickups but they need to stop making mistakes and finish #1 seed to have easy path to top 2

Natus Vincere is pretty bad brochacho

if only we got to play versus b0byb0y

I + don't + care

My eyes burn when I watch him play and my ears bleed when I hear him cast

thanks for costing Chad2 a win against their dogs sentinels

you suck please retire again so hiko can come back and show you how to win

imagine spending all that money since franchising started to just be humiliated time and time again

im pretty sure NRG are #1 in spending in americas post franchising maybe sen edges them with sacy and pancada buyouts

we never argue with you

we just wait

another successful NRG roster hatewatched into imploding circa december 2025

the most over rated player TODAY is b0zz

https://chng.it/ny2Rt8kWWj

https://chng.it/ny2Rt8kWWj

tf does results have to do with them being cheap?

gen.g have been cheap in valorant

its definitely better without trash teams holding up development, you're just emotional but truthfully its okay, like you barely have a south asian org right now, global is just a korean/sea team

meteor likely isnt leaving t1 for a long time

t1 can just bully other orgs with money its not really a competition

plus autumn can just leave

all this yap and mibr will be better than half of these teams like what usually happens at champs

aspas is inevitable

its really only about money and stability, the marketing and viewership comes with that

which relegation, ascension or next years?

ascension is whichever is the better ascension team, if they make playoffs they fight in ascension, if they dont make playoffs they relegate, if they make champs they stay

for how riot is redoing franchising in 2027

a lot of teams are not re-investing into the scene, pretty much using the minimum salaries, minimum coaches, using the stipend that riot gives them to just kinda exist

i suspect koi secret giantx dfm jdg these kinda teams

again, riot probably wants orgs that invest huge in the scene

https://www.reddit.com/r/ValorantCompetitive/comments/1j5773e/game_arena_amount_of_vct_partner_teams_might/?utm_source=chatgpt.com

read this thread, has quotes from leo about what wanting the scene to be more open, leo also said there is currently a "chance" but imo its gonna happen

i have a strict feeling that region representation will matter less and less in valorant since only korea and turkey can sustain a fully native roster