VALORANT World Cup

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cloudberry

I've seen people do this before but I was just reading https://www.vlr.gg/413726/lxt-4 (more specifically Aayan's comment at #5) so I thought I'd give my input.

Here are the teams I thought up. Each team has players to fill all the necessary roles, including an igl.

🇦🇷: Saadhak nzr Klaus Dantedeu5 tinchoff (triple igl goes hard)
🇦🇺: tixx Maple Autumn Sinaway IKANA
🇧🇷: Zap aspas cauanzin pANcada Less
🇨🇦: FNS mada JonahP eeiu zander
🇨🇱: adverso kiNgg keznit Mazino Shyy
🇨🇳: nobody ZmjjKK CHICHOO AAAAY Smoggy
🇨🇿: MAGNUM marteen Ambi Jesse Minny
🇫🇮: iluri Derke Jamppi hoody Polvi
🇫🇷: Enzo K4DAVRA nataNk sh1n Killu
🇩🇪: luckeRRR Click al0rante Felix tex
🇭🇰: heybay NoMan YOU Uta Kiuuuu
🇮🇹: Hearthbeat bipo Alannn caydeN Tag
🇮🇳: Techno Venka Paradox Hoax Lightningfast
🇮🇩: xferro f0rsakeN xccurate Lmemore Monyet
🇯🇵: CLZ Meiy SyouTa Xdll SugarZ3ro
🇯🇴: Prancer Blittz VIPP33R B4HA MtZ1
🇰🇷: Munchkin t3xture Karon Rb Meteor
🇱🇹: Boo MiniBoo ceNder nukkye hype
🇲🇳: MnFeaR onenineteen nex1SphiX SkyIsBlue diky
🇲🇦: johnqt ScreaM reduxx Subroza Nivera
🇳🇱: RobbieBk hiro MAGiK brazy Apyr
🇵🇱: Buld kaajak kamyk paTiTek grubinho
🇵🇹: Addicted tomaszy DaviH Cunha20 Fizzy
🇷🇺: nAts something trexx Demon1 Chronicle
🇸🇬: Benkai, Jinggg, Deryeon, lenne, nephh
🇪🇸: Mixwell Fit1nho Quick koldamenta Guardy
🇸🇪: ShadoW Sayf Leo Zyppan Meddo
🇹🇼: BerLIN Yuicaw S1Mon TvirusLuke Spring
🇹🇭: cgrs Primmie sScary JitBoyS foxz
🇹🇷: MrFaliN Wo0t ReiNs Loita Alfajer
🇬🇧: Boaster waddle aNguiSt benjyfishy Lime
🇺🇸: valyn zekken Ethan N4RRATE leaf

I will update this as people respond (i.e. as people yell at me), whether that be changing rosters or adding new teams entirely.

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No marved and tenz? for Canada smh

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cloudberry

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TenZ is technically retired, but I can see Marved over zander

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zander cus eeiu johnqt chem from ghost/m80

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cloudberry

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That's a fair point, hmm

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1243

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but now marved for fns chem? LOL this must be hard on you, teams are constantly being added and changed

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cloudberry

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I think Marved crashing out recently has me questioning his synergy with FNS

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they were joking but I feel like currently zander is a better bet than marved

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cloudberry

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Yeah I think so too, especially with the midrounding and vibes zander can bring. Will change it back

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2 players chem vs 3 player chem, and more recent team (optic died like 10 years ago) and marved recently complained ab not liking anyone on 2023 nrg and 2024 nrg except vic and crashies

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M1xwell is retired as well

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cloudberry

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I didn't realize that, ty for the heads up. Any idea who I could replace him with? Preferably an igl

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Kolda was IGL when he played, but maybe the Barca igl, Saiz or Vorwenn, idk which one is the igl

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cloudberry

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Oh I didn't realize koldamenta was an igl, that makes things a lot easier. Thank you

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im assuming he did not include tenz as he’s retired

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eszett

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mwzera over aspas 💀

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cloudberry

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Edited. Don't ask me why I forgot aspas existed

For the people downvoting him, he was pointing out a mistake I made

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haha it's ok

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Buld and zeek are best igl options. Pretty mid they maybe should just pug the event

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cloudberry

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Maybe. I'll just add Buld because I'm now realizing I have Poland are running a 4 man roster

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Also Kamyk should be there instead of wedid, he’s gonna be liquids star

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cloudberry

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👍

#253

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but wedid is cracked :///

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nobody___100

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why are you adding a player named "blud" to your team bro
chat gonna be filled with "blud is not cooking"

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kanyefan4238173

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LMAO ur right an na chat would definitely say smth like that

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GambleNats

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is there like a maximum number of people on a roster being in the world cup team or something

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cloudberry

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I'd assume 5 players per roster

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GambleNats

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no I mean like china dont have smoggy so is it like you can only have 3 edg players or something.

Also for china I would probably have aaay > life and if not smoggy someone like luoking/flexin > nizhao

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cloudberry

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Oh, I didn't think about that ngl I just made up rosters
Sure I'll make the edit

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Aayan

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holy wow Sweden is lowkey built

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nobody___100

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nah, shadow and yacine are on that team. 2022 guild vibes. will win one important game and play like shit for the remainder of the tournament.

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awaky

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Melser is from chile, not argentina

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cloudberry

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Ty, I meant to add Klaus

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China or korea prob wins with either like Canada or USA in 3rd or 4th

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the cis disrespect

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Poland would win the event. (French last)

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wo0t and alfajer for turkiye?

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cloudberry

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What would your roster be?

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GambleNats

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riens, woot, alfa, xeus (cned makes sense too), mr falin

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Finlad

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woot duelist, riens init, alfa sentinel, mr falin flex, loita smokes

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Flame4Game

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why not alfa duelist, woot flex, mrfalin smokes, then elite on sentinel?

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H3ENnZ

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Respectfully AAAYY is mid. His util is not great but his aim is magnificent

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GambleNats

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who else in china do you rate higher than aaay overall? I think he is one of the best but yh

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you just put s1mon in there, bro proved he can hang in champs no need to replace him. edg full team is probably the best china has plus already have great synergy and practice which is an advantage over everyone else

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GambleNats

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s1mon has taiwanese flag and I assume it would be like the olympics where hk, macau and tw all represent themselves

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L1NK_Lover

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surely he makes it in the taiwanese team then

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cloudberry

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Yup

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H3ENnZ

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Well s1mon said he comes form the province of taiwan so Idk if he is going to represent Taiwan

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GambleNats

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doesnt matter in the olympics and also makes it 99% easier to sort players into regions (because this is a hypothetical)

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4rrowlol

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Meteor > flashback
Nukkye >>> destrian

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cloudberry

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👍

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Two_Percent

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🇷🇺: Chronicle, Shao, nAts, Something, Trexx
🇹🇷: Alfajer, Wo0t, Riens, Xeus, Sociablee
🇵🇱: Grubinho, PaTiTek, kaajak, Westside, Profek
🇬🇧: Boaster, Benjyfishy, Keiko, Mistic, Soulcas
🇸🇪: Leo, Sayf, Zyppan, ShadoW, Meddo
🇱🇹: Boo, Miniboo, nukkye, Hype, ceNder
🇫🇮: Derke, jampii, hoody, famsii, Iluri
🇨🇿: Marteen, Minny, Magnum, Jesse, Ambi
🇫🇷: Enzo, Kadavra, Shin, Beyaz, Veqaj
🇳🇱: Hiro, Magik, Robbiebk, Brazy, Apyr
🇪🇸: Fitinho, Vorwenn, Saiz, Guardy, Quick

🇧🇷: Aspas, Mazin , Less, Cauanzin, pANcada
🇺🇸: Oxy, Leaf, Valyn, N4rrate, Verno
🇨🇱: Mazino, Kingg, Keznit, Shyy, Adverso
🇨🇦: Marved, FNS, Eeiu, Mada, Apoth
🇦🇷: Nzr, Sadhaak, Klaus, Cebando, Dantedeus5

🇰🇷: Zest, T3xture, Meteor, MaKo, Munchkin
🇮🇩: Forsaken, Mindfreak, Kush, Xccurate, Famouz
🇯🇵: Meiy, SugarZ3ro, Dep, CLZ, Oitan
🇨🇳: S1mon, Kangkang, Nobody, Smoggy, Chichoo
🇸🇬: Benkai, Jinggg, Deryeon, Lenne, Nephh
🇹🇭: Sscary, Crws, PTC, Jitboys, Primmie
🇵🇭: 2ge, Invy, Emman, Wildoreoo, Mojer
🇮🇳: Ligthingfast, Skrossi, Techno, Jaggi, Venka

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IonlywatchvcjXD

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I would replace:
oitan with hiroronn or Yatsuka
Dep with Xdll or NOBITA

#38

cloudberry

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Tysm :)
Also I'm stealing your format lmao

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no zekken is crazy, zekken clears oxy every day of the week.

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Two_Percent

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Oxy is mechanically one of the best valorant players of all time

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zekken is better though? zekken was top4 duelists last year and mvpd at a masters, and he is currently improving
https://www.vlr.gg/353187/sentinels-vs-cloud9-champions-tour-2024-americas-stage-2-w2
i don't doubt oxy, but zekken is clearly better

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Two_Percent

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oxy was carrying a mid team, and is a rookie this year. Zekken is great, but oxy is the future

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you're lying to yourself if you think oxy is better than zekken

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Two_Percent

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In game they’re both great but oxy has better mechanics

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GambleNats

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even if this was true, zekken is superior in every other way (spoiler zekken mechs are better as well)

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Patch_

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But also has no Brain and doesn’t make smart plays, he’s even said this himself multiple times.

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Two_Percent

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He’s a duelist… he ideally should play better with the team but over 2024 he found more than enough success being a mini texture. Give him an actual team to play with and he’ll fry

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so you're betting on him to get better, you know every player in the world can do that, all we can do is take their past actual performances into account not future improvements you think can happen, anyway zekken has better mechanics plus he is a better communicator and makes better plays and obviously is much more consistent.

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I'm not betting on anything, I'm just saying give Oxy an actual team and he'll fry out. Zekken is goated don't get me wrong, but part of that is due to him having played for a while. Oxy just had his rookie year, and putting him on a world cup team with the best of the best would be the perfect environment for him, as he is mechanically a top player of all time

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zekken has better mechanics but clearly you aren't changing your mind. it's fine it's your team.
also if you aren't betting on anything, oxy will still be dumb and make stupid plays, zekken is way smarter.

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Two_Percent

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hop off bro meatriding is getting a lil too crazy

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not even meatriding though zekken clears oxy by a mile, just say you're biased and move on, oxy isn't all that.

continue thread →

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If there's an Indian team, I'll add Techno and Venka at any cost. Jaggi was also good but we haven't seen him on a big stage yet.

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Two_Percent

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Good to know… I’ll update it

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juni

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You could make custom Val Sim tournament with these teams and see who would win

https://valorantsimulator.com/tournaments/create

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cloudberry

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That's actually a really cool idea, will have to do that tomorrow. Thanks juni

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Indonesia roster is fire

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eeiu is from balkan

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Add Demon1 to Russia and they dominate all other countries

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Scream isnt French

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cloudberry

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Oh yeah you're right

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Aivi

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Man as an Australian these are always so hard to do cause it feels like every Australian player that's notable is either a duellist or flex
but
Autumn - kayo/viper/flex
tixx-main smokes (omen, brim, astra) (igl)
maple/lew/andy/swerl/ (genuinely could be anyone who gets good stats as duellist) duellist
sinaway- senti
ikana - initiator
Now this team has no igl, and the only noticeable igl I can think of is Wat, so wat would replace tixx probably.
(just remembered tixx did igl scarz, so no need for wat, but tixx's igling is kinda questionable so who knows)

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cloudberry

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Good roster, will add. I'll give tixx the benefit of the doubt 👍

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It’s gotta be SWERL for duelist and dragon > sinaway but both good.

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Aivi

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I considered them, and i definitely rate swerl a bit higher than maple, but I also just tried to make the team with people who have Australian flags a on vlr. Meaning I didn’t include lew, swerl, and dragon

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Replace xccurate with delb

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🇲🇽 Lucy (IGL), seven, Mephisto, Peloncito, my cousin

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cloudberry

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I like where you're doing with this. If you can find a 5th I'll add this

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WHERE'S MONGOLIA!!!!!!!!!!

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cloudberry

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Do you have a roster? Or should I just use the Kobolds roster from this year

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currently there are top 3 valorant roster from mongolia
one is full time salaried and bootcamp provided
other two are orgless but committed
you can see them play in oct 25th in sea split 3
as of superteam roster i have an idea
nex1sphix sentinel
mnfear igl
decoy duelist
diky controller
skyisblue flex

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cloudberry

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Ty

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🇮🇳: Techno,Venka,Paradox,hoax and lightingfast

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cloudberry

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Added 👍

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why hoax?

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ITALY
Bipo duelist
Alannn flex
Cayden init (kind of a stretch but he can play it, NAIS can be an option)
Z3RO controller IGL (Hearthbeat can be a replacement)
Tag sentinel
Simoz coach

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cloudberry

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Good roster, will add

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cloudberry

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We're at 28, once we get to 32 I'll run this

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I could see sacy coming back from retirement to play this

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USA: not having an initiator is crazy lol. Go -S0M for someone like N4RRATE or Verno and -Jaw just cause he isn’t as good as Zekken and plays the same role and add a player like Ethan.
So roster of Zekken, Verno, Valyn, Leaf, N4RRATE/Ethan
Korea: Not having Mako is Crazy
t3xture, Zest, Mako, Meteor, Munchkin
Russia: Doesn’t really have a good smoked but Demon1 is good and is Russian so im adding him and he prob will for LEV. Something is just a better duelist.
Something, Shao, Demon1 (Smokes), nats, Chronicle
Edit: Added Korea and Russia

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cloudberry

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I didn't even notice that, thanks for the heads up

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s0m doesn't make sense since valyn already plays smokes, imo tex>>> leaf, also no moroccan team, so surely we take johnqt in Canada right?

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cloudberry

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Ykw fair enough, I'll add johnqt to Canada

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for US only change I'd potentially make is -ethan +verno but that's based of t2 performance so who knows. looks fine to me.

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That was cause of my forum explaining some existing role issues but I agree Verno could be there instead of Ethan or even N4RRATE

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LocoMonteiro

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Portugal:
Tomaszy (Duelist)
Olizera or Fizzy (Senti)
Addicted (IGL/Flex)
Davih (Scan Initiator)
Cunha20 (Controller)

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cloudberry

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Thank you!

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johnqtgoat

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Morocco :
Johnqt
Scream
Reduxx
Subroza
Nivera

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cloudberry

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Wait this is lowkey stacked, ty for the roster

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Reduxx isn’t Moroccan nationality, he is just American. It’s like saying oh tenz should play for Vietnam

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#71
But sure, I guess you could sub in BreaK from Void Walkers and have ScreaM play flash initiator

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ever heard of dual nationality ?

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Two_Percent

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reduxx isnt dual tho

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he’s of moroccan and egyptian descent and has the american nationality supposedly there is a world cup he can choose to represent morocco , egypt or the usa its his choice , i included him in morocco cause he can play with them

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If reduxx can play for Morocco then the US team should be all native americans

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are u honestly dumb ?

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I'm saying a country should represent themselves with people that belong to the country, i.e. people with that nationality. Although Reduxx is Moroccan ethnically, he doesn't have any national connection to Morocco. Therefore he counts as an import if he wants to play for a Moroccan team, and by our rules, world cup teams shouldn't have any imports from any other countries, Reduxx wouldn't be able to play for Morocco

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This is a good point, but there are, in fact, instances of players who have gone to play for countries where their parents were born and/or have a citizenship of (Emilio Nsue is one example that comes to mind, but there are a lot more, likely hundreds). So it is possible by FIFA rules that reduxx could (hypothetically, of course) play for Morocco if either of his parents are personally Moroccan

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amir richardson plays for the moroccan national team his dad is american former basketball player michael ray richardson his mom is moroccan and he was born in france if we use this same logic reduxx can play with morocco,

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Two_Percent

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Because Moroccan citizenship can be passed down through birthright. He played for Morocco not because he was ethnically Moroccan, it's because he had the passport

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dude reduxx can claim the moroccan passport whenever he wants if he doesn’t already have it , and richardson is ethnically moroccan , his mom is he just claimed the passport , same for any national team demon1 could play for russia or for the usa

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aspas cauanzin sacy Less pANcada
or u could replace cauan for mwzera

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cloudberry

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Who igls here? cauan?

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cauan and sacy
could be zap in the place of cauan too

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wait enzo french?

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cloudberry

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Yup

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Cool nice work

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cloudberry

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Thank you!

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Can I ask what ur doing to define what country a player belongs to?

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cloudberry

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Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh vibes

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real

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GambleNats

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for a hk team I would rather

Heybay (IGL - Flex)
NoMan (duelist)
YOU (iniator)
Uta (sentinel)
Kiuuuu (controller)

btw I know siufatbb is a good player and kiuuuu is pretty mediocre at best but all of these player clash in role and kiuuuu was the best hk controller I could find

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cloudberry

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I like that, will update, thx

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GambleNats

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also how many countries do you still need?

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cloudberry

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I'm at 29, I need 32 to run a simulation. So I think 3. If we get 19, though, we can run a 48 team one

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Finlad

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Phillipines team consisting of naos x ts would be 1 to add

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GambleNats

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okay here are some random countries you could do (I literally stat checked so take everything with a grain of salt)

🇵🇰 : Bloody soulM8 AlleN niklaus hsn
🇧🇩: sh33lz son1c DeDli SpeX mufinSenpai
🇻🇳: Kishi f1cio viness suka crazyguy
🇲🇾: aduka zeeq FrostyZ jeed d4v4i
🇵🇭: invy 2ge wild0reoo Jremy Jessievash

i will look for more later

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cloudberry

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Honestly I'm thinking Philippines (what Finlad said), Mexico, and Saudi Arabia or Egypt

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#109

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Kush>lmemore

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RU - something demon1 chronicle trexxx nats

#113

cloudberry

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Sure

#114

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something>purp0

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I think reduxx would be a better fit for the Moroccan team but idk if it makes sense because i don't watch the games.

Also add team jordan: prancer (I 1v5 any country)

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Edited
Also if you can find 4 other Jordanian pros I'll add you as the 5th

#127

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I chose these 4 purely off their name and earnings on liquidpedia I have no clue if they are good;
Blittz, VIPP33R, B4HA, MtZ1, Prancer

Also who did you replace reduxx with? I thought it would've been subroza

#148

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I replaced BreaK (Sova from tier 2)

#121

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No mind freak or famouz??

#124

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Nope

#122

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there is spike nation, I don't know if it's a thing in other region except EMEA.

#123

cloudberry

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Yeah I don't think so. Wish there was

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AAAAY cant replace simon.His utility was completely dogshit.

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name a single inti player better than aaay thats from the mainland

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biank and viva

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Biank is good but for flash inti really can only rely on skye

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Do you understand the role s1mon plays?

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Agreed, aaay cant replace s1mon but s1mon cant play for the PRC

#129

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Viva > AAAAY.

Viva is far, far better than AAAAY and the best initiator/flex player outside of EDG, BLG, and FPX.

#132

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respectfully I just fully disagree with this take

vivas agent pool is tiny and just is not better than aaay.

also aaay is apart of fpx bro

#144

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not tiny exactly.He can play every initiator(true) and also viper jett cypher and his utility is far better than aaaay.

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wdym true? he has barely played the other intiators in proplay? also what we are looking for is a flash inti, which is not is vivas pool. His experience is worse, his aim is worse, he doesnt fufill the correct role, so why add viva

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A bit late to the conversation but I think Viva plays more cerebral Valorant than AAAAY. He's missing the aim and whatnot but he's much more intelligent than AAAAY.

#133

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Eyes? Do you have eyes?
Viva better than AAAY???
VIVA BEST FLEX?? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
get that fraud past heybay first

#143

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Hope u know viva as a initator and igl in jdg has the highest acs in chinese initiator.
He can play every initiator(true) and also viper jett cypher and his utility is far better than aaaay.
And...heybay is from hk not mainland

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Viva being an igl is meaningless when nobody already have one of the best igls itw. And besides sova he has low amount of experience on these intiators. Playing viper is meaningless when chichoo and smoggy play viper, playing jett is useless when you already have the best opper itw on your team. And do I have to again mention playing cypher is also meaningless

Viva is a pointless addition

#147

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But that's the situation:There's no worldclass initiator in china besides autumn nobody and simon

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istg if all of the players were in the valorant simulator, i would sim this to see who wins

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cloudberry

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I'm gonna do this once we hit 32 teams actually (we're at 29)

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W's

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ECMango

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German🇩🇪:
Click
al0rante
azury
Felix
BennY

#150

cloudberry

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Wait that's a sick roster

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Something over sheydos is insane

#139

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sheydos duelist??????

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Any of them can play duelist, nobody needs something in a team with Goat1, for raze/neon maps you have sheydos, chronicle and trexx

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cloudberry

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something duelist
trexx initiator
Chronicle flex
Demon1 controller
nAts sentinel igl

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Demon1 smokes/jett
Chronicle flex
Sheydos raze/neon/senti on maps where Demon1 plays jett
nAts senti/smokes on Demon1 jett maps
Trexx initiator
Trexx and chronicle can play raze or neon too so they will figure out the roles easily

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something is just better than sheydos tbh.

on jett maps:
something jett
chron flashes
trexx scan
demon1 smokes
nats senti

on raze maps:
something scans (he’s been playing fade and gekko)
trexx raze
etc

on neon maps:
chron neon
something scans
trexx flashes
etc

on raze double controller maps
trexx raze
something fade
chron kj
demon1 omen
nats viper

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The strong teams would be Korea Brasil Argentina and USA, Canada could be good but seems iffy

#156

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This is heavily Americas biased but I agree with your opinion on the teams

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Gonna be legit, I didn't see Russia.
But I would add them as well, the other teams seem to have more t2 talent so it's more of a gamble to try and predict

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you dont think china, the champion winners are gonna be good??

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I get tvirusluke over spring maybe ig but no yuicaw in the Taiwan team is insane, imo the best player in that region whilst also being extremely flexible

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Will update, ty for input

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i made a spreadsheet for this a while back lol, here’s two other teams:
czechia - marteen, Minny, MAGNUM, Jesse, Nunmeister/alexiik
Denmark - pa1ze, nille, avova, cullumx, ri4d

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UPDATE

We're at 32 teams, so I'm gonna run a Valorant Simulator tournament to see which team would win

Not gonna start for a while; I have to manually input every player for all 32 teams, which is super tedious since I have to calculate the stats for each player. I've done up to Hong Kong as of writing this

For those curious, I'm gonna follow the same format as Champions, only with 8 groups instead of 4

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Hey, vlr doesn't have my stats but you can just input my stats at the highest possible integer on the program. Im better but some computers and programs cant comprehend my abilities <3

Nvm I completely misunderstood your comment, my joke isn't funny anymore

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cloudberry

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Lol all g
There are two options here:

You send me your tracker, I take your stats and plug those in instead of VLR stats (should still work)
There's no integer limit so I just make all your stats infinity and you automatically win the tournament

#182

Prancer

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Here is my tracker (I don't play ranked mainly swiftplay)
https://tracker.gg/valorant/profile/riot/Prancer%23Mane/overview

#183

cloudberry

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Do you want me to use your comp stats or your swiftplay stats?
Also damn we should duo sometime

#184

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You can use whichever is more convenient to you I think they are similar anyways.
Also we def should duo we would easily hit radiant #1 and #2

#185

cloudberry

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Fr!
Add me: cloudberry#ikea

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I sent you a request, but honestly I'm hot ass at valorant I'm a deadlock (the game made by valve studios, creators of tf2) player now

#187

cloudberry

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That's alright :)

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Idk if it’s too late for the sim, but i believe tex is German and could fit in the Germany team

#169

cloudberry

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Not too late, I'm still making rosters. I'll edit him and take out Felix 👍

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nah that makes the roster a whole lot worse
you have so much role overlap now
al0 - sentinel and duelist (could flex onto flash but isnt very experienced in that role based on stats)
tex - sentinel and duelist (could flex onto flash but isnt very experienced in that role based on stats)
BennY - duelist and gekko
Click - duelist

basically your flex is already questionable (though fine for a WC tbh) but the intiator role is just sad
If you wanna add tex then replace al0 imo

Felix is a must (or Obnoks is you wanna add a bit of experience into the team which it lacks otherwise)

#181

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I see, okay. Considering #179, I think I'll probably go with LuckeR tex Felix Click Vince. Thank you for your input :)

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For team Germany id consider LuckeR to replace Benny

igl and flex which the team lacks atm

Frees up the roles a bit more and allows for a bigger variety of comps to be run (a hyper specialized team isnt necessarily bad for a world cup, but I feel like, when we're making rosters purely on paper, banking on double duelist working out with the huge mix of playstyles present is a bit risky)

And then -tex or -al0 for felix again as described in #178

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This is dope, waiting for the sim results

#189

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I feel like the UK roster would probably be better with ardiis and soulcas over aNguiSt and waddle (if you count ardiis as UK)

ardiis is very flexible and can be a pretty reliable fragger in the right system, as well as being great for the vibes

Meanwhile soulcas has some pretty insane aim and can pop off given the right circumstances, he just has some problems with mental, but on a team with Boaster, ardiis and benjyfishy I feel like the vibes and structure would be good enough for him to pop off and find his form

#190

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I like the idea but would you rather see seasoned pros or young talent here? What do you think?

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That is a good point, however I feel like ardiis and soulcas are both quite strong players that are worth taking over aNguiSt and waddle, plus aren't aNguiSt and waddle also both sentinel players?

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waddle played initiator for DSYRE this year. That being said, you do have a good point, but idk which roster I prefer

#191

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But Dommy is very inconsistent :(

#193

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please put al0rante into the german team, definetly top 3 german players

#198

cloudberry

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I had him originally but had to take him out because his roles clash with luckeRRR. I guess I could take him out and put BennY back in as igl... hmm

#207

Baumi

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couldn´t you trade al0rante with Vince? isn´t al0rante quite good as a smoker and Vince smokes only?

#208

cloudberry

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You could, but if you're only taking smokes into account then I think Vince is a little bit betterthan al0rante. Correct me if I'm wrong, though

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Vince is more experienced on smokes but I feel like al0rante is still a great smoker and just the better player overall and as far as I know he´s a second caller as well

#225

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That's a fair argument. I'll make the change, ty

#194

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Pancada is not the best controller in BR anymore. Heat is the main initiator. Spikezin is better than heat as flex player.

#196

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I have heat in as flex igl

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my-dad-ate-my-toes

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Honestly I feel like zap in as initiator igl but keeping heat as flex is the best shout for Brazil

#200

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I like that. Although I think in this case is to simply take out heat for Zap as a 1 for 1. cauanzin can play whatever initiator Zap doesn't, and Zap can play Omen on double controller maps if he needs to (e.g. Lotus)

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Still filling in the teams. I've filled in everything up to and including Morroco.

Didn't realize this earlier but since I'm taking stats from VLR, tier 2 players have higher ratings and stats on average. So there could be some weird superteams. Mongolia looks really good, for one.

So yeah, the simulation's not gonna be 100% accurate, but it should still be hella entertaining :)

#202

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No Philippines?

#203

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I'm sorry, I forgot. Already at 32 teams unfortunately but if you have a roster in mind I can maybe run a sort of showmatch with the Philippine team (I'll figure smth out)

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yokam/Jremy duelist
PapiChulo Smoke
invy Flex
tesseract/ Jessievash Initiator
xavi8k/ Nexi Sentinel

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Thanks 👍

#209

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32 team bracket world cup would honestly be fucking insane icl. Hosted in a good country with a good crowd like Brazil or istanbul it could honestly break records for Valorant imo. Would be lock in but much more competitive as teams would just be formed and no teams would have much prior experience with eachother kinda like lock in with teams that had pre existing cores did good EX. FNC, LOUD, NRG, NAVI.

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I would LOVE to see this kinda thing, man. Just think of all the rosters and head-to-heads we've never seen before. Would also have the most national pride of any VALORANT tournament ever

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I would assume though it would be a month or maybe 2 month long tournament (including travel) depending on the format. This would in turn have to make champs end on August or September since I'm assuming Riot would be the one hosting a world cup since I doubt anyone else is (maybe ewc?). You need to give teams time to trial different players and with this world cup it would greatly reduce it if champs ended in October.

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Those are fair points. It doesn't really have to be that serious, though. It could just have the team prep of a regular off-season event, only with more teams and therefore more games across more days. The one thing that would probably be affected by this is trials, since this would likely take up at least three weeks when accounting for travel time. I think a pretty simple solution to that is to lift the October 7 date for contracts to end, so that if players want to participate they can probably be signed to a team by the time this comes around in November (I'm assuming November would be the best time for this as it would give players over a month after the tournament ends to prep for the year with their team).

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Yeah this could work but again if Riot hosts it it being in November I'm pretty sure conflicts with GC champs. Other than that though this would be a good solution. Also I'm sure riot is the only TO that is allowed to host big events like this. I've seen something somewhere a while ago that said something like this.

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Riot being the TO for this is good (frankly I don't think any other TO would make much sense anyway).

As for GC, they can probably have Champs done before October if they optimize the schedule. Depending on the region, kickoff is currently anywhere from January to March, stage 1 anywhere from February to May, stage 2 anywhere from May to August, and stage 3 from September to October, with random tournaments sprinkled here and there and everywhere, all leading up to Champs which lasts a grand total of 10 days. It's a problem and they need to fix it, even if they don't run a World Cup

Also you've had 3 different flags since we started this mini thread 😂

#219

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You propose a quite good schedule. I wish this would happen but unfortunately it probably won't happen.

They don't have my flag I think so I use a cool looking flag!

#220

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Oh no, I'm not recommending this schedule at all. This is the one they currently have. They spend 3 months doing each stage, run 3 stages, also run a kickoff to start the year, run all the offseason-esque tournaments between splits, and then Champs only lasts 10 days. They 100% need to fix this. I say run kickoff in February, then stage 1 from mid-March to mid-May, stage 2 from early June to August, then Champs in late September after Ascension ends. If they want to do a stage 3 for promotion/relegation like they do for tier 2 then they can probably do that in December after the World Cup ends

What flag does VLR not have, by the way? I've seen very obscure island flags so I didn't think there were entire countries not added yet

#221

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Oh ok I misunderstood sorry. I understand now though.

My flag is Guatemala. I cannot find it.

#222

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Glad you found it 👍

#223

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Sorry I was wrong. Guatemala was here I was just blind. I saw Guam and missed it.

#213

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why arent mako and stax in for korea they are better than karon and rb

#218

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Karon makes sense but rb shouldn’t make it

#233

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100% Rb is the most overrated player of all time and it's not close.

#226

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Hot take CreamyDreamy over ShadoW

#227

cloudberry

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Does CreamyDreamy igl though?

#236

Baumi

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maybe you could add coaches as well? but this might be difficult for some countries

#239

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Two concerns:

You can't put coaches into the simulation unfortunately (see #161)
Yeah you're right, that would be painful 😭

#241

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UPDATE

I ran a sample match between Indonesia (5 T1 players) and Mongolia (5 T2 players) to see if grabbing the stats from tier 2 and evaluating them the same as tier 1 was a mistake... here's the imgur thread https://imgur.com/a/b861DkV

I can probably run a few more test matches before I have everyone filled out (I've got the first 20 or so teams on the list right now, lost count tbh) so lmk if you have any specific matchups you wanna see before I finish all the teams and start running the sim

Edit: nvm I'm now realizing it's because I had role conflicts on the Indonesian team because I set 3 of them to controller. Will make that correction (and double check all the teams) then run it back

#242

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I feel like tier 2 players should have a percentage discount to their stats cuz im sorry to say skyisblue is not as good as monyet

#243

cloudberry

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I'm thinking of doing a 10 point deduction, tbh. Gonna run another Indonesia vs. Mongolia game where IDN are running an actual duelist instead of triple controller just to make sure the T2 boost in stats is real

#244

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yeah in full support of 10 point deduction

#245

cloudberry

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https://imgur.com/a/LZhxlwc

Yeah no we should be good, no deduction necessary

#246

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ah so does the website fix it for you? thats sick

#247

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^^ juni, can you confirm if you're reading this?

#248

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juni? is that meant for a specific person?

or do you mean me?

anyways I atleast read it :o

#249

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https://www.vlr.gg/user/juni

The creator of Valo Sim and the one who proposed this whole idea (see #33)

#252

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btw for taiwan i would put Spring over YHchen, Spring performed a lot better in both splits and in general is a overall better player

#254

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Will do!