very nice, i can see why you have exit
My favorite picks of yours are izu and ivy, honestly not too sure about meteor and hiro for their value but def not unreasonable
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very nice, i can see why you have exit
My favorite picks of yours are izu and ivy, honestly not too sure about meteor and hiro for their value but def not unreasonable
fairs, i just gotta rep my team somehow but ur right
these are nice, nightz might surprise ppl i think, i like Boo and Profek as well
Duelists: kaajak/Izzy/Xross
Initiators: Asuna/Vora/starxo
Controllers: keiko/PROFEK/xavi8k
Sentinels: skuba/Shyy
All well and good until we go up 10-2 and choke 15-13 in OT
I remember from their comms videos that keiko and mada are two of the more vocal players in midrounding as well. When they are on Phoenix and Chamber then they will be more focused on their own game, so skuba and brawk need to be stepping up more, but they are also more used to playing on their own.
bruh there is never a collective vlr agenda, it shifts depending on who’s awake, and which teams are in good form
EWC IS NOT MICKEY
AN AMERICAS TEAM IS IN THE FINALS (MAYBE EVEN TWO)
you would have players baiting harder than aspas
oh hella nah thats haramball
bruh no one here knows what asinine means
They did, I was doing a web-scraping project with the VLR Dev API and it doesn't work anymore.
They haven't been too bad recently with just double duelist spam
bump cause i think thread got buried when the wc game was on
Hello all,
I love experimenting with compositions and how players should be assigned to different agents. So, I've made a tool to help this process.
Basically the tool takes a composition, 5 players and their all-time agent pick rates, and assigns them in the most optimal way. The math behind this is essentially the maximization of the multiplication of the pick-rate-percentages of the assignments; this is, however, all handled through Python.
For instance, if I use the current NRG roster and the composition of Astra-Killjoy-Sova-Kayo-Neon, then it will spit out:
Astra goes to skuba. Pick rate is 29.31%
Killjoy goes to keiko. Pick rate is 3.45%
Sova goes to brawk. Pick rate is 58.17%
Kayo goes to Ethan. Pick rate is 18.98%
Neon goes to mada. Pick rate is 9.77%
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The code is here below, if you want to try it out:
https://github.com/Flame4Game/VCT-Composition-Optimizer
You will have to download it and run it yourself.
Otherwise, if you cannot do so but are still curious about a certain comp and team, I can do it for you. You can also run a custom roster by inputting 5 playerIDs instead of one teamID from vlr.gg
DaE_Goose, which teams/players should we keep an eye on?
TBH I thought with any Chamber double duelist comps it would be skuba Chamber, keiko/mada duelists, and Ethan smokes. I still don't think that this will be our actual comp come stage 2 but maybe they will prove me wrong.
Yeah, we 100% have to cook up something for one of Sunset/Split. And obviously improve our Fracture/Ascent. Fracture I don't think is that bad, Ascent we definitely need to figure out something, we haven't won once.
sentinelmain becoming an NRG flair is like Hitler taking your side against Epstein and Netanyahu
Maybe G2/PRX?
Wdym by missiles being able to be shot by ppl with 100hp?
I think that drone buff is a lot stronger than you think. not even sova/fade util does that, it would be like a mini Cypher ult.
Feet only is an interesting idea, what was your thoughts behind that?
I think overall I like your philosphy of making them a bit more specialized, hopefully they would find a better niche.
it's like a constantly shit team that just got decent and looking promising sold their star player to another good team that is one piece away from winning consistently.
Something like if koalanoob went to G2, Favian going to TH, etc.
Triple initiator might even be viable
Sova + Fade + Breach/KAYO/Gekko + Omen/Astra + Killjoy
The other thing is that Kess was good but never really played at a high level until he joined Lyon. And he's playing in a really weak region.
I don't think Kess is good enough to warrant keeping in a rebuild.
maybe just for clout, idk. I think his skill level cannot be better than anyone still on the roster; tenz at least played at an extremely high level as recently as 2024.
i like your logic, my only qualm is that I think deadlock is a more aim-centric agent than Harbor. There is some precedent with primmie being one of the most prolific Deadlock players in the history of VCT. So keiko Deadlock wouldn't be the worst decision. But I think mada learning a new agent is far more likely.
Who do you guys think the main 5 will be?
I think it is something like this:
eeiu - only recon player, possibly easiest lock.
mada - slump of form but best entry duelist possible, I think he's a lock.
Zander - I don't see a better candidate for IGL (maybe koala??)
koalanoob - most recently world-class (kickoff), I think he should get in based on talent.
That leaves TenZ, Marved, and JonahP left for the last slot. I think most likely we get TenZ just for reputation, but I could see Jonah.
The issue with an eeiu/mada/Zander/koala/TenZ roster is the lack of a sentinel player. One option is to put one of koala and TenZ (most likely koala) on perma Chamber. Another possibility is to utilize Zander as Viper on most maps and play no sentinel. I think between those options they will be fine - they can run double initiator with TenZ as the second initator, double duelist with TenZ/koala.
Possible comps could be: koala Chamber, eeiu Fade, mada Raze, TenZ Omen, Zander Viper
koala Omen, eeiu Skye, mada Raze, TenZ Jett, Zander Viper
etc.
Thoughts?
https://www.vlr.gg/681796/reject-vs-qt-dig-challengers-2026-japan-split-2-w4/?game=269897&tab=overview here's one example
I've seen it in a couple other tier 2 games too
I just remember seeing it in a couple of tier 2 games. Not sure about tier 1 but would not be surprised to see it.
What would the roles be if NRG played the Jett-Sova-Omen-Deadlock-Cypher Ascent comp that's been semi-popular recently?
To me there are 3 options:
1: brawk plays Deadlock. Then skuba Cypher, Ethan Sova, mada Jett, keiko Omen.
2: Ethan plays Deadlock. Then skuba Cypher, brawk Sova, mada Jett, keiko Omen.
3: keiko plays Deadlock. Then skuba Cypher, brawk Sova, mada Jett, Ethan Omen.
4?: mada plays Deadlock. Then skuba Cypher, brawk Sova, keiko Jett, Ethan Omen.
I think it was karam1l that had insane stats in the first stage or something? He's definitely going to be someone to watch.
Glad to see lf get a chance.
yeah I feel like izu could definitely be in the convo if they didnt have meteor play duelist sometimes as well
leaf is a good shout, you could argue the only player really going out of his role is babybay but since he's gone back to being primary senti I think you can count leaf as such a hyperflex. I don't remember G2 doing double init comps in a while tho
this was kind of what i was thinking of, thanks.
yea idk abt his viper lmao
What I mean by this is a team where there is one perma-duelist, one perma-sentinel, one perma-initiator, one perma-controller, and one hyperflex that fills whatever final slot there needs to be.
Is there a team that still has this structure?