oh i forgot abt that T_T

yeah the alternative is FS vs XLG and NRG vs FUT but I would love to see FS and NRG go at each other.

In: Icebox, Sunset (maybe Corrode)
Out: Haven, Split (maybe Pearl)

Icebox has been out the longest and Sunset second longest. Haven has been in the longest (since 2024 stage 2). Out of the remaining, Split/Pearl/Breeze have been in the next longest, all since the beginning of the year, but overall Pearl and Breeze have been out longer than Split.

shut up kuruk, hes trying his best

“hmm how do i bring ewc into this”

Keiko Phoenix, mada Jett/Waylay, Ethan Fade, brawk Vyse, skuba Astra. Or even Ethan Astra, skuba Vyse, brawk Sova. The plan is right there, I really don't know how we haven't made the switch yet,

10 things i hate about you

VCT equivalent of Haramball

calm down mate we still gotta win map 3

letsgooo

outside of bcj that’s like 4 superstars lmao

im probably biased so ill concede that he could be more iconic

thanks! Raze I thought for sure but Deadlock is interesting, any particular reason?

wo0t iso would be so fun to watch

Astra: happywei (1.36)
Breach: Francis (1.10)
Brimstone: slowly (1.36)
Chamber: Jemkin (1.23)
Clove: No one
Cypher: vo0kashu (1.21)
Deadlock: Kr1stal (0.82)
Fade: PatMen (1.16)
Gekko: No one
Harbor: valyn (1.11)
Iso: No one
Jett: something (1.26)
KAY/O: Veqaj (1.18)
Killjoy: AAAAY (1.29)
Miks: No one
Neon: whzy (1.15)
Omen: Neon (1.24)
Phoenix: jawgemo (1.32)
Raze: Zmjjkk (1.22)
Reyna: No one
Sage: xavi8k (0.95)
Skye: invy (1.22)
Sova; trent (1.32)
Tejo: hiro (1.34)
Veto: Cryo (1.10)
Viper: v1c (1.28)
Vyse: Alfajer (1.25)
Waylay: primmie (1.27)
Yoru: dgzin (1.38)

What is an agent that's not picked a lot rn that you think could make an appearance at London?

Hyunmin is in the convo but mada was one of the first to adopt Waylay, in their Corrode comp, and won Champs with it. Plus he is one of the most proficient Waylays at Kickoff and Santiago, before the nerf.

mada in 2026: 514 rounds on Waylay, 1.03 rating
HYUNMIN in 2026: 224 rounds, 1.11 rating.

HYUNMIN in 2025: 473 rounds, 1.03
mada in 2025: 175 rounds, 1.09

total: mada 689 rounds, HYUNMIN 697 rounds. but mada has the added Champs buff in terms of iconic.

Brimstone: Demon1/MaKo
Omen: MaKo
Sova: Leo
Phoenix: SicK/Victor
Fade: Shao
Deadlock: probably johnqt lmao
Vyse: d4v41 or leaf
Waylay: honestly could be mada
Clove: Smoggy

I swear Shao is getting underrated now.
From 2022 to early 2023 he was legit the best initiator in the world. He was rivalling Leo at Lock//in. All time he's easily a top 5 initiator.

what?? I literally cant see it

1. Probably, he put up good numbers at EWC but I haven't seen anyone talk abt it that much.
2. Do people really underrate him? He's a good IGL that frags okay. I don't see anyone shitting on him too much
3. he's objectively the worst player on his team, I dont think he's underrated
4. Haven't really watched him but I think that's fair
5. Agreed, the guy has randomly been a top 3 player of G2 currently
6. haven't followed him tm since he went to fut but I think he has decent stats for an IGL, so fair
7. heavily agreed, I love kr1stal
8. idk abt that
9. He has good stats for China (and hes IGL(?)) so yeah a little bit
10. echo is really good but i dont see anyone saying hes not so sure

nah don't asc players play in open quals all the time? Or is that not how it works idk

I heard someone say that this patch was probably heavily vibecoded

shoutout to Leo's 1v5 sheriff ace on GUILD (against navi?) in like 2022.

i'm g3 but have played dia/asc players in community tournaments and held my own
think i deserve plat at least

CHAROD and k0rupt have some tier 2 experience, same with Bob. Aria has been around in GC for a while I think. IDK about glowstick though.

its an honor o7

I don't know a lot abt him but is really so hyped up that one bad map necessitates these kinda comments? He was very good the first two matches.

he def wasn't on initiator when in t2, he has 8 sova games and 1 fade game all time compared to like 150+ omen games.

yeah thats completely fair and 100% true

thank you!

ah, you're right. I was thinking it would've been brawk Fade, Ethan Omen, keiko Vyse, skuba Viper for some reason, but obviously not.

thanks for the feedback! I think EDG have insanely talented players but just talent alone doesnt necessarily make them favorites if you know what i mean. I haven't watched too much of EMEA so I perhaps am underrating them, wo0t especially, I had him at around the 20 place but thought that players like Sato and happywei were deserving. He's def an HM though.

He just isn't really comfy on Fade I don't think. Otherwise we would've had him on Fade on Lotus and Split instead of Vyse. The couple maps of Bind last year he played Fade on we lost by a lot and his stats weren't good.

And yeah I trust in Ethan's flexibility. (pause)

their form hasn't been standout since jingg and something have been playing so nice
i have more faith in valyn and derke to show out at London

XLG ban Fracture, NRG ban Split
XLG pick Lotus, NRG pick Breeze
XLG ban Ascent, NRG ban Haven
Pearl remains

1. Neon
2. Primmie
3. brawk
4. something
5. Jinggg
6. Zmjjkk
7. Keiko
8. RieNs
9. trent
10. CHICHOO
11. Smoggy
12. vo0kashu
13. Sayonara
14. valyn
15. Derke

HM: PatMen, f0rsaken, d4v41, Sato, happywei

He has played Astra earlier this year, on Breeze, averaging 0.87. We lost to MIBR and won against C9 those times.
If NRG leans into more double duelist, eventually Ethan is going to have to learn some more smokes because brawk can't play vyse on every map for Ethan to play initiator on, and furthermore Ethan can't play Sova.

Like let's say we swapped to double duelist on Breeze:
mada Jett, keiko Phoenix, brawk Sova, skuba Viper. Then Ethan has to play Harbor/Omen/Astra.
or on split:
mada Waylay, keiko Raze, brawk Skye, skuba Viper. then Ethan should play smokes; he can't play Skye since brawk doesn't really play any controllers.

So fundamentally there are some small kinks in agent flexibility NRG need to work out, and it's either Ethan learning more smokes or brawk leaning into sentinel/viper as his secondary role (or just learning Fade).

That would work but I feel like the roles are better with yetu. Also I'm a fan of him, and I think he's in better form than xeus rn

I suppose so. I rated mada highly so him and kk are similar but chichoo over skuba has got to be an insane upgrade, considering skuba's form.

I guess I'm high on G2 and that getting an upgrade over jawg like s0pp would be even better for them. but the nrg/edg team is def a contender for #1

XLG x FS: Crws, happywei, primmie, NoMan, killua
VIT x LEV: kiNgg, Neon, Derke, Sato, Sayonara
PRX x DRG: f0rsaken, vo0kashu, something, Jinggg, Nicc
G2 x FUT: valyn, yetujey, s0pp, leaf, trent
EDG x NRG: keiko, CHICHOO, Zmjjkk, Ethan, brawk
TH x GE: xavi8k, benjyfishy, Wo0t, PatMen, RieNs

(note: each team has to have 2 of each component team at least)

My rankings:

1. G2 x FUT
2. PRX x DRG
3. EDG x NRG
4. VIT x LEV
5. TH x GE
6. XLG x FS

oh nice! tyty <3

done a lot of data posts and community ranking polls, generally try to be positive in a forum where everyone hates on everything

Here's hoping

Maybe we pull out the 2024 (?) PRX comp

keiko Jett, mada Raze, Ethan Yoru, brawk Viper, skuba Omen

split isnt that unknown, we're dogshit at it
i think our pearl is gonna be good, overall on this year its still one of our best maps

As an NRG fan:

Great maps: Fracture, Haven
Good maps: Lotus, Breeze
Bad maps: Pearl, Ascent
Horrible maps: Split

ong

hope we get put on the same team this szn :pray:

I think I have heard of u actually, mb

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