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Registered: July 29, 2022
Last post: May 26, 2026 at 11:50 PM
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why nrg will win london

odin. literally who in the event matches them in odin? glazers will say trent but we all know in our hearts he has legit 0 odin. haters will say nrg have no odin then go glaze "Gold 2" lmao.

posted 18 minutes ago

why is chubizin on smokes and melser on recon, seems like their natural roles are the other way around

but yeah thats insane, i think david is one of the better latam tier2 players as well, think ive seen him for a while now

posted 4 hours ago

So this is a season format:
Points are awarded for each map win. No matter if it's at internationals, domestic playoffs, group stages, whatever. Each map is worth one point. In tier 2, each map win is worth exactly 0.28 points.

Phase one is a international group stage with 8 groups of 6, completely randomly assigned, to play in a round robin. Top 4 of each advance to playoffs.
This is a single elim 32-team format, until you get to the top 8, where it transitions into double elim. All matches in final 4 are Bo5, and grand final is a bo7, with the winner picking the first 3 maps.

Phase 2 is domestics: a 2023-style huge ass round robin. Top 8 goes into a swiss, where top 6 goes to playoffs (i think there needs a tiebreaker for 6th). same format as before.

Phase 3 is another international with 4 teams from each region. Just for fun it's the same format as champions.

Phase 4 is a final international involving all 48 teams. This time it's 6 groups of 8, with the top 2 selected from each group to advance, making 12. The last 4 are selected from a playing from all the 3 seeds. The playoff is the same as phase 1, with round 1 the only round being single elim.

Finally, the world champion is whoever accumulated the most points.

posted 5 hours ago

wtf are those stats

posted 6 hours ago

tier 3 demon

posted 6 hours ago

can you send the full methodology? Im interested

posted 8 hours ago

#10

Basically uses normal elo calculations, like chess, where a matchup gives the winning team a certain number of points according to the elo difference and the losing team loses the same number of points.
There are no regional weights, for example, so regional dominance is enough to get a high elo

posted 8 hours ago

appreciate the feedback

posted 9 hours ago

The algorithm treats every match as the same weight, so EDG and XLG have a lot of regional wins that up their elo

posted 9 hours ago

80 lines of python code beg to differ

posted 9 hours ago
  1. PRX - 1765
  2. EDG - 1729
  3. G2 - 1706
  4. XLG - 1691
  5. NRG - 1684
  6. TH - 1684
  7. LEV - 1637
  8. FS - 1642
  9. GE - 1627
  10. VIT - 1623
  11. DRG - 1614
  12. FUT - 1592

Starting elo is 1600 so FUT are the only team to be below average

posted 9 hours ago

Current results:

  1. PRX
  2. G2
  3. TH
  4. VIT
  5. LEV
  6. GE
  7. FS
  8. EDG
  9. NRG
  10. FUT
  11. DRG
  12. XLG
posted 9 hours ago

thats fun

posted 10 hours ago

thats good man
do anything fun today?

posted 10 hours ago

i'm actually doing really good, thanks
how are you?

posted 10 hours ago

mdiddy

posted 10 hours ago

bump

posted 12 hours ago

the teams are actually really well made. this season the winning team had 2 immos, an asc, a diamond, and a gold. most teams are similarly balanced.

posted 2 days ago

Last place is Bati, after filtering with the minimum round req it's c1nder

posted 2 days ago

I think it'll be flexible. maybe with Jett-Raze mada goes Raze but with Raze-Waylay keiko plays Raze, for example.

The order of Duelists from keiko-able to mada-able is:

Iso - Jett - Phoenix - Raze - Neon - Yoru - Waylay

posted 3 days ago

WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS

posted 3 days ago

Check attack half, he went 9 and 3 with half the ADR of the rest of his team.

posted 3 days ago

ETHAN LOCKED OMEN

posted 3 days ago

W

posted 3 days ago

Do we still go for a KAY/O comp when keiko has been frying on duelist?

posted 3 days ago

67r0v0n

posted 3 days ago

nice shots bro...

posted 3 days ago

i feel like when we get aim diffed for a couple rounds its hard to climb back

posted 3 days ago

i want to blame trent but we have brawk on our team

posted 3 days ago

bro is actually fragging
demon1 could never

posted 3 days ago

yeah wtf bro you could tell by his reaction something was wrong

posted 3 days ago

fsfs
i smell a good series, which sucks cause i have a little bit left of an assignment due at 11 tonight

posted 3 days ago

probably... G2 are undefeated on Haven and that might be our best pick. Maybe we pick Lotus, IDK...

posted 3 days ago

fuck you right

posted 3 days ago

G2:

  1. Pearl: 3-0
  2. Breeze: 2-0
  3. Lotus: 4-1
  4. Haven: 2-0
  5. Split: 1-3
  6. Ascent: 0-1
  7. Fracture: 0-0

NRG:

  1. Fracture (3-0)
  2. Haven (2-0)
  3. Lotus (3-1)
  4. Breeze (3-1)
  5. Pearl (1-2)
  6. Ascent (0-0)
  7. Split (0-2)

G2 bans Fracture, NRG bans Pearl
G2 picks Breeze, NRG picks Haven
G2 picks Lotus, NRG picks Ascent
Split decider

imo this map pool heavily favors G2, so interesting to see what NRG cook up, I'm not very confident in this pred but we'll see.

posted 3 days ago

RESULTS SO FAR

Asuna - 39%
No One - 27%
bang - 21%
coach - 5%
vora - 4%
Cryo - 3%
Timotino - 2%

posted 4 days ago

i also believe that no changes are necessary

posted 4 days ago

indeed

posted 4 days ago

https://strawpoll.com/poy9kLJOAgJ

Interested in your guys's opinion.

posted 4 days ago

4 insane maps, 1 meh map, 1 bad map, 1 untested map.

3-0 on Fracture, winning against EG, SEN, and 100T
2-0 on Haven, winning against FUR, KRU
3-1 on Lotus, winning against 100T, EG, and FUR (lost to KRU)
3-1 on Breeze, winning against 100T twice and KRU (lost to SEN)

1-2 on Pearl (lost to FUR and 100T, won against EG, but they are 7-3 on Pearl in the season)

0-2 on Split (lost to FUR and KRU)

0-0 on Ascent

The fact that teams don't exploit NRG's poor Split and untested Ascent more is kinda crazy. They've ducked ascent this entire playoffs, and when Bind (another really shitty NRG map) was in the pool in the group stage no one picked split after week 2.

This team has an extremely deep map pool and I expect them to match up well against almost every team

posted 4 days ago

was not expecting NRG to pick fracture

posted 4 days ago

for me he was in the 10-15 range iirc

posted 4 days ago

i wonder if the backlash is going to be greater if NRG or 100T loses

on one hand 100T might fail to make an international yet again with the best possible chances, and fans may finally break

on the other hand reigning champs NRG might lose to fucking 100T

posted 4 days ago

the alternative is to let split through tho

its possible we ban ascent but idk, 100T might not even pick it, breeze and fracture are both possible picks for them

posted 4 days ago

eh that's true
keiko has been frying on phoenix though i wouldnt be the most surprised if Ethan went off kayo

posted 4 days ago

imo its grubi, audaz, wayne, or maybe glyph or profek

posted 4 days ago

keiko Phoenix
mada Waylay
Ethan Omen
skuba Vyse
brawk Sova

100T:
Timotino Jett
Asuna Sage
Cryo Cypher
bang Omen
vora Sova

posted 4 days ago

Currently:

Tier 1: Alfajer, aspas, Chronicle (890+)
Tier 2: Boaster, f0rsaken, Leo, TenZ, Derke (750+)
Tier 3: Ethan, Meteor, nAts, something, d4v41, Jinggg, KK, yay, Sacy, t3xture (600+)
Tier 4: Demon1, brawk, kaajak, cNed (600-)

I'm fine with these tiers, personally I think Ethan should be in the 2nd tier along with nAts, but perhaps that's just bias. I also think Leo should be a tier down but I wasn't really a hardcore watcher in 2023

(edit: With more votes coming in Ethan and Demon1 can each be moved up a tier, I think that's the fairest tiering)

posted 4 days ago

yeah i have brawk below all them for now

yay had a much higher peak over a similar timespan
davai was ultra consistent and has good international results without a huge dropoff in performance
jingg, f0rsaken, something all have had consistent high regional peaks and in f0rsaken's case, an MVP on top of that
texture had a similar best-player-in-the-world peak and extended that over an entire year of good performance
nats has insane longevity, consistent good performance, and also a fragging IGL on top of that
kangkang is the greatest chinese player ever, spearheading china into relevancy, and also consistently shows up at internationals
cned i think is debatable but his legacy pushes him over brawk

if brawk can keep up above average form and win another international he's firmly above some of these guys imo, but rn i just dont see it, his champs run never felt like he was the true best in the world

posted 4 days ago
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