Corrode you could definitely run Vyse/KAYO/Fade/Omen/Waylay
Haven you could technically run Cypher/KAYO/Sova/Omen/Neon
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Corrode you could definitely run Vyse/KAYO/Fade/Omen/Waylay
Haven you could technically run Cypher/KAYO/Sova/Omen/Neon
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I was playing around roles with a potential Canada team the other day. I think you have to have koalanoob on the roster, if nothing else for a consistent Yoru, I think he's miles better than TenZ. Drop either Jonah or TenZ, probably Jonah tbh.
TenZ Omen/Second Ini
Mada Duelist
zander Sentinel/Smokes
koalanoob Yoru/Smokes
eeiu Initiator
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Do you think liquid should make a roster change?
Meteor's also the only one with two trophies, which is why I'm asking. And he was around in 2021/2022 with the others, albeit with worse results.
solo Fade was viable back then. I think teams would rather run that than solo Breach/KAYO/Tejo by now, if they're going double duelist.
2 of Waylay/Raze/Neon, Fade, Brim, Killjoy/Cypher/Vyse/Veto/Chamber
or if you're going double init then Breach may be okay? people forget that Fracture is literally his best map, even more so than Haven. So he might just be viable in a double initiator comp.
The only couple I can think of are f0rsaken, Meteor, and MaKo.
I liked your rosters. Maybe Cloud/Shao over trexx tbh.
One question, if you included players like invy/Keiko/Ethan on the mixed team why wouldn't you have put them on the regional teams? Is it just for perceived team balance?
Astra - KJ/Cypher - Waylay/Neon - Yoru - Sova/Fade
It's very clearly a double duelist map. Astra and Yoru are basically must picks (TL's wacky comp and NRG's Tejo comp are the only exceptions).
There have been 5 instances of KJ and 4 of Cypher as the sentinel. 1 each of Viper, Vyse, and Veto, all unorthodox. So this is clearly still up for debate, though I favor KJ.
As the duelist there are 5 instances of Waylay, 5 of Neon, and 1 each of Phoenix and Raze. so here it's also pretty up for debate.
Finally, Sova was played 6 times and Fade 5.
yeah super close, you guys played well. I would not want to face yall again tbh
it's a comp they ran in 2024 or something. with gekko and harbor buffs it didnt hurt to give it a try.
They were really shit domestically in 2024, 2025, and 2026. But probably there's an argument for being above LEV.
G2 got second at Shanghai and Bangkok. You could argue NRG/SEN rn but I'm gonna keep it humble, they have another international over us + good domestic results + also the history.
Currently here's my ranking of greatest Americas teams:
NRG with a win pushes them firmly above SEN and debateably above G2 imo.
True but they haven't played Abyss once... and NRG is still 5-1 on Abyss (they're 4-1 on Pearl for reference). PRX's Pearl is at least passable. Although you're right that if any team were to not ban their permaban in a critical match it's PRX, they're really ballsy.
If they ban Haven I think PRX would still ban Corrode, given NRG's history on the map, even though they're 1-1 this year. A Breeze decider would be cinema ngl. But yeah there's not much motive from either team to change up their strategy apart from that.
NRG map pool:
PRX map pool:
Last matchup's veto was:
NRG bans Bind, PRX bans Abyss
NRG picks Pearl, PRX picks Split
NRG bans Breeze, PRX bans Corrode
Haven remains
Which is pretty likely. However if one team decides to make a splash... let's say NRG doesn't ban Bind.
NRG bans Split, PRX bans Abyss
NRG picks Pearl, PRX picks Breeze
NRG bans Haven, PRX bans Bind
Corrode remains
That would be an interesting mixup. NRG is favored on Pearl for sure and PRX probably on Breeze. Corrode would be pretty close.
Yeah I thought it wouldn't be this close ngl, they played phenomenally
This year they're 2 and 1. Lost to PCF, which kinda sucked, but was probably an anomaly. Won against Vitality and also won an overtime one against M8s, whose Abyss is not terrible.
Last year they were 4-0 on the entire year; the one win in Ascension coming against DNSTY which was a 13-4 stomp.
So overall, pretty decent, but I think NRG's is a level better.
I mean we thought Abyss was going to be easy against Fnatic...
I'm feeling confident though, we shut them down really well, lar0k could not get going whatsoever.
This is going to be a banger.
NRG are 3-1 on Pearl and were really good last year.
BBL are 2-0 on Pearl and were insane last year.
NRG are 5-0 on Abyss and were good last year.
BBL are 2-1 on Abyss and were 4-0 last year on a smaller sample size relative to their Pearl.
Split is meh for NRG but also not the greatestt for BBL.
I'm excited to see this matchup...
I tried making some comps suiting everyone's agent pool:
Abyss: TenZ Omen, zander Astra, mada Waylay, koala Yoru, eeiu Sova
Bind: TenZ KAY/O, zander Viper, mada Raze, koala Brimstone, eeiu Fade
Breeze: TenZ Omen, zander Viper, mada Jett, koala Yoru, eeiu Sova
Corrode: TenZ KAY/O, zander Viper, mada Waylay, koala Omen, eeiu Fade
Haven: TenZ Omen, zander Cypher, mada Neon, koala Yoru, eeiu Sova
Pearl: TenZ KAY/O, zander Astra, mada Waylay, koala Chamber, eeiu Fade
Split: TenZ Omen, zander Viper, mada Waylay, koala Yoru, eeiu Fade
So the team definitely has enough flexibility to run comps on different maps.
That would probs be better.
If it's double initiator then TenZ flexes, if it's yoru/chamber/sage then koala flexes.
or you could keep both and get rid of jonahp
Zander Sentinel
mada Duelist
koala Smokes
TenZ Flex
eeiu initiator
it looks like we have similar map pool strengths and weaknesses tbh
does BBL perma ban Bind? They honestly shouldn’t waste a ban on it if not, NRG would never pick into it and have to go attack side first.
Dude that last shot was nasty. He honestly was someone I didn't think would perform well but he was insane on Haven.
What maps are rotating out? I think comp wise they're not doing too bad, they have the tools to run meta double Duelist and double controller.
Split: Timo Waylay, Cryo Yoru, Vora Fade, Asuna Omen, bang Viper (same principle for Bind, Corrode, Abyss)
Pearl: Timo Waylay, Cryo Veto, Vora Fade, Asuna KAY/O, bang Astra
Breeze: Timo Yoru, Cryo Jett, Vora Sova, Asuna Omen, bang Viper
Haven: Timo Neon, Cryo Killjoy, Vora Sova, Asuna Omen, bang Viper
Lotus: Timo Raze, Cryo Killjoy, Vora Fade, Asuna Omen, bang Viper
or something like Timo Yoru, Cryo Chamber, Vora Fade, Asuna Neon, bang Omen if they wanna be really creative
Fracture: Timo Neon, Cryo Cypher, Vora Fade, Asuna KAY/O, bang Brimstone
or something.
they can run what EDG run on Haven:
purp0 Chamber
nAts Viper
wayne Omen
kamo Sova
MiniBoo Neon
Welcome to any sports/esports forum... after any game the really extreme fans with really extreme takes will pop up like crazy.
Me personally I've been a fan of wayne and purp0, and hope that they stick together. But EMEA is acc pretty competitive, VIT is looking good, I have confidence in TH, etc. I don't get people saying EMEA is bad - no Americas team went 2-0 in Swiss.
G2:
T1:
G2 bans Split, T1 bans Corrode
G2 picks Breeze, T1 picks Bind
G2 bans Abyss, T1 bans Haven
Pearl remains
I honestly have no clue, just looked at map win rates..
NRG's haven is ass
13-9 win against 100T
13-5 win against MIBR
13-2 win against XLG
11-13 loss against PRX, only lost cause d4v41 and f0rsaken were pulliung bullshit out of their ass
So it would be:
NRG bans Bind, TL bans Abyss
NRG picks Pearl, TL picks Breeze
NRG bans Split, TL bans Corrode
Haven remains
?
I would almost rather NRG picks Haven first in this case, TL's Haven is a question mark and NRG looks strong on it, I would call their bluff
That's fair. Does TL then ban Abyss over Corrode as their second ban?
So here's the map pool for NRG:
1: Abyss (4-0)
2: Pearl (3-1)
3: Haven (3-1)
4: Corrode (1-1)
5: Breeze (1-1)
6: Split (1-3)
7: Bind (0-1)
And for TL:
1: Breeze (5-1)
2: Bind (4-1)
3: Abyss (2-1)
4: Split (2-2)
5: Pearl (2-2)
6: Corrode (1-3)
7: Haven (0-0) (Their permaban in kickoff but they have been floating it at Masters)
Prediction:
NRG ban Bind, TL ban Haven
NRG pick Abyss, TL pick Breeze
NRG ban Split, TL ban Corrode
Pearl remains.
I think the only other option is if TL picks Split as NRG don't look good, but maybe they'd want to go for one of their comfort picks as they've been very solid on it.
NRG could also not pick Abyss and go for one of TL's weaker maps like pearl or Corrode, but again i think comfort might prevail as their Abyss looks quite strong (beating MIBR x2, 100T, and XLG).
Riot wants NRG vs G2 so bad they're going to rig it so EDG wins
He's been shooting out of his mind lately. GG PRX, you guys played really well.
I'm personally hoping this goes to three, obviously cause I want NRG to win but this has been an exceptionally entertaining series so far. f0rsaken and invy played really well. keiko tried his best, but we just lost a lot of raw gunfights tbh, especially in first half from what I saw.
GLHF in map 2 (and maybe map 3)
Who is actually in contention? I've only seen Alfa, Ethan, aspas, and Chron brought up in conversations.
Alfa's case: Best performances at internationals.
aspas's case: Longevity, insane domestic performances, consistently #1
Ethan's case: 2 Champs with two different teams
Chron's case: 3 international wins
So it really depends on what your criteria is, I would lean aspas given that VCT is still quite young and so rings don't mean as much yet.
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