I don't really watch him and by no means I don't want to insult him just random opinion of random internet user:
I think he tries too hard really often. I understand that he is a content creator so it makes sense, but sometimes it just goes to a point where it gets annoying. Streamers like him just feel so fake at times. Also from little I've seen seems like he gets easily upset/mad if anyone criticises something he does etc.
but as I said I haven't watched him much and its possible that I'm wrong. It just that he feels really similar to a lot of other streamers who just feel annoyingly fake trying to make it on top. So content creation and number centric people.
A lot of the EU valorant content scene feels like this, people like grayfps, howtonoodle, flowascending feel so cringe because theyre trying to portray themselves as a good player, when they get most of their "clips" against golds in unrated. averagejonas is probs the most watchable out of all of them as his content like lineup competitions and stuff is pretty good.
A lot of streamers/influencers nowadays are "fake" but to a degree where they're still very enjoyable to listen/watch. Ludwig, tarik, Courage, Nick Light TV are all people that I watch that definitely overreact but are still entertaining (maybe even because of that). It's their job to entertain after all. However, some streamers fake it and it comes across as cringe. Shazam and AverageJonas are two examples of this for me.
only cringe thing i've seen about him is half the time his jokes don't land & he and his chat have basic/normie humor. anyone will mald in a tourney where they're losing so that doesn't count.
also Team Liquid is the best org in the world + you hate on everyone's flair so your opinion is irrelevant just like your team
I thought it was just me. His voice is so grating and annoying, plus he whines about EVERYthing as if he’s actually good. In reality he’s bad, even for a CC, and he lineup crutches (just like a lot of Brim/Viper CCs). Not to mention he thinks he’s some sexy god because he used to sing on a cruise ship and complained that his Twitter thirst trap got reported.
But good for him, building his brand and being successful with a few thousand viewers. You can’t be universally liked after all.
PS: Same with Lothar, his voice is mad annoying and he thinks he’s a genius (OMG GUYS i’ve been trying to tell you the stinger is broken for DECADES, all you have to do is CHANGE UP ALL YOUR KEYBINDS to abuse an ADS bug!!!!)
he was somewhat likable pre-nerf sova but became really negative and passive aggressive as time went on. guy just became too cringe and political, his streams are a mess now and he's become so bad or poor(?) that his streams were accessible for a week or month but now its locked to subs after a day?
https://twitter.com/Average_Jonas/status/1614930639945601025?s=20&t=fLg2R0A8pdaYsl2Vu1IL-g oh no jonas saw this KEKW
How ? I can't speak up when a content creator has been toxic in the past with one of his fans ? cause yes I watched him ALOT before and the day I got in a ranked game with him I instantly knew it was him, but then he started being a d*** the whole game so I changed my opinion on him. Glad he went to OW2.
I don't know if that's really the best thing to do.
If a random guy speaks up against a genuinely shitty content creator, fans like you will crawl up and harass the person for months.
He spoke out what he had on his mind and Average Jonas did notice. Either defend yourself or accept your mistake. Don't send fans to defend you cause that is a really shitty thing to do.
i myself am def NOT a fan of averagejonas LMAO and i couldn’t care less about who the fuck he is, and if you think i’m “harassing him” then please go outside… just acknowledging why someone should care about what people think about them, especially if it’s the internet where you shouldn’t give a fuck about anyone else BUT you, yourself
same thing applies to averagejonas, why should he give a fuck about random degen haters when it’s the internet, people will both hate and love you for what you do and you have to learn to accept that when you’re “famous,” don’t bitch about it like it’s other people’s problem, take it and embrace the hate to grow stronger
I still don't understand what your point is.
What you suggested in post #115 is clearly dumb and like shooting yourself in the foot.
Also he does have the balls to clearly stand up against Jonas. How else do you think he is supposed to do this? Can an average person really contact Jonas on demand? He could either tweet it and tag him, or make a post on the largest valorant discussion forum there is. Same shit.
Why TF are Jonas and flow catching flak????,it's streaming
for godsake there's a lot of pressure and social management u have to do every single day. And Jonas is more richer, successful and talented than most of us ever will be, plus it's not like he came out of nowhere, he geniunily reinvented the way PPL thought of lineups and sova and i think that deserves credit, and abt flow and grim they're both playing a very creative way of sage that is very fun and exciting, yeah if u don't like it think they are cheesing, that's ur problem broski, if u like vanilla u have it no one is stopping u, but that doesn't mean the PPL who don't eat vanilla are bad cause they are different from u
And abt the whole them having an ego or whatever and being nice toxic, there fking internet personalities mates they need to keep a line, for their own mental health
MAN THIS WEBSITE IS FILLED WITH MAN CHILDREN AND I CAN'T GET OUT!!!!!!!!!, GUYS THERE'S NO NEED TO BE TOXIC TO EVERYONE AND EVERYTHING, JUST STOP HATING ON STUFF ITS NOT THAT DIFFICULT
Personally I know he isn't a bad person, however his takes on certain topics are extremely one-sided and whenever someone tries to point out the dark / shitty side of his take he starts going into victim mode saying how the comments are too toxic or hateful speech like dude. For example his take on OF and how people should be less prejuice about having one like I understand if your posting content that isn't sex related and is focused on something else then that fine it's like posting on a Youtube channel except your subs come at price of 4.99$ however most OF users post what OF was created for which is sexual content and , take a moment and imagine your mother or sister having an onlyfans posting pictures of themselves in lingerie showing off there ass and boobs and your classmates, co-workers, friends, or bf/gf side of the family stumble across it, your life would be heavily impacted by it cause your other relationships might be ruined because of it and also most girls who do OF because they have to make ends meet probably suffer from some type of depression of mental health issue like some people rlly consider the risk of losing your closest connections just because they wanted to make easy money at the price of pride and dignity. Imagine going to one of your friends or your bf/gf family and they ask what you do for a living or how do you have so much money and you reply with "I post myself half-naked on OF" it's so shameful and basically in it's own way shows that your dignity and pride can be bought at the same price as a snickers bar and which is why most people who do value and care about there relationships with other people don't create an onlyfans.
I thought was a nice guys, just a bit Toxic when tilted in game which is not really visible on his YT . But the all the comment there about is "Nice" Toxicity and else got me really intrigued. Might watch a stream one day. Because i do feel like, maybe people over fetishise him for the all "sova main stuff" making him untouchable on any other aspect.
I couldn't care less about either, but i remember once i got timed out in flow's chat for answering a question in a way he didn't like.
As i side note, because of this thread i went and watched him and within 5 minutes he got his ego hurt after using a grim wall because someone said "grim wall" in chat and perma banned them, he kinda just seems like a man child with ego problems tbh
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