It's their ideal goal, but it doesn't mean it's their only goal. From that tweet we can also see Riot committing on supporting the players in any path they're taking either way.
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It's their ideal goal, but it doesn't mean it's their only goal. From that tweet we can also see Riot committing on supporting the players in any path they're taking either way.
Yeah no I'm blaming SOOP on this one because the last time they updated it just a few days before it was 16.00
It's a layover because he did play in both qualifiers. It'll update.
Fancy is potentially playing three Bo3's back to back today. Their endurance is being tested.
It doesn't help that Fancy is playing three Bo3's back-to-back today.
Probably because the team is directly supported by Seongnam City, plus what I assume is SLT/Rio Company wishing to focus still on the talent development aspect
Kinda fell apart in the VN Regional Qualifiers last year and the Promo/Relo stuff
It's NKT fellas, mb. Motiv is playing Sharper tomorrow
I need to keep reminding folks that if a team has 6 players active, the matchpage system just picks 5 random starters from the 6. It does not reflect anything at all, it's just the system.
Just to keep that in mind.
WAIT MY BAD
(don't juggle 3 games at once fellas)
They are, but even VCL JP teams are also recruiting- some of these organizations have enough money to rival ZETA and DFM in terms of spending power and retaining their players.
It's just a placeholder date so we can set the event early.
Er, no.
The Jan 2 date is just an approximation, not a hardset date. We just put it there just in case.
Academy are supposed to nurture talents. And when you argue bias, who do you intend that dig towards?
When you force Academies to be the only teams that are allowed to pick 18 y/o talents when the other VCL teams can't, isn't that just going to create a rift?
Edit: I see where you're coming from with the age restriction, again complying with local labor laws—but having only Academy teams be the sole perpetrators taht could recruit them?
The affiliate system is being revised in 2026, so Riot defo got their pants pulled and said not again for next season
Where do you see this? Riot so far only specifies the exemption for anyone above 16 (as per VCL roster rules), and even then it's only for the Path to Champions. And the age requirement at min. 18 y/o is only for VCT Partnered Teams, as they are by far technically working all year round and as a result are required to comply with local labor laws.
give me telecom wars or give me death
Mau ga mau, kita buka era baru aja sih, mungkin udh telat, tapi bukan berarti ga bisa resurgence. Ini ada banyak tim yang regenerasi dan kompetitif, apalagi buat nanti Regional Indonesia tahun depan.
Siapa tahu kan dengan ini, momentumnya naik lagi?
Not until you pass the vetting process and the TPA negotiation, bud.
Conflict of interest. All this argument and the flaw from the start that you want to let them participate in intl events is conflict of interest.
Academy teams have different goals and philosophies in developing their talents. You can't set just one standard.
Willing to bet on this too.
I think not to a degree of 'hey we're going through with 11 teams' because they won't risk having through the scrutinization again.
My suspicion is that we're going to see an intervention like how TGRD did, depending if PCIFIC has the resources to bring 5 entirely new players to the roster because they hold the Ascension slot.
Either they don't agree to the Partnership Agreement and we see a Riot intervention, or we'll see a mess either way.
Berserx forgot to update his Valorant client, all good
They're actually bringing up players though?
It's like they're sending the proper building blocks to the Tier 2/NatComp circuit, go figure. Plus it's year 3 of VCT CN, I'm assume teams are in some bs phase where the salaries and pay out are a bit weird.
Also NatComp are sustainable as well as a destination(?)
It's not just them, but it's also a French TO called Gozulting
it's where I came from, I have a soft spot for it! medic main lmao
So far, carrying the work Sungmin made in the first half of 2025, he helped T1A being as dominant as they are in VCK outside of the independent teams.
Very disparaging statement.
It is understated that Korean Challengers had their own challenges. 3/8 of the VCK Main Stage teams are Academy teams, leaving only 5 proper teams to compete this year. There's an argument to be made that some of these talents are top heavy within teams like FEARX, ONSIDE, and SLT. However there are a lot of hidden and underrated talents that are either stuck in Premier or the Tier 3 system.
VCK also struggled with viewership thanks to Twitch leaving the country, with Youtube, SOOP, and CHZZK trying to bring back the viewership.
That being said, the role of talent agencies such as Rio Company/SLT, Shadow Corporation (SPG/NS), even proper academy schools like T1 Academy and Gen.G Global Academy that help nurture up and coming young talents are the evidences to show that Korean talent building are already established, and it starts at the bottom up.
The ghost of Rio Company still possessed its esports branch.
Actually the goat of Korean talent agencies in terms of Valorant.
South Asia and OCE has their own Challengers. Rest of SEA does not include them. You can literally read the newspost
2023 Ascension - Final (despite the label of an import team)
2024 Ascension - Top 4
Arguably, Tier 2 Japan have been the most competitive domestically this year, but hindered by bad practices from organizations and the lack of vertical movement from players wanting to break through to Tier 1.
When your Tier 2 viewership and support is near comparable to a small-time primary league, all you need to do is fix the culture and performance within.
Japan is too big of a market to ignore, like it or not.
I don't think that's even a good comparison either way- MTV was DSG, and NAOS have been comparatively the best Filipino team for the past two years. AE was a tragedy, but I think I'm going on a hot take that BTR wasn't doing really good.
That doesn't mean anything if the major offices still work for both sides of the pond.
Not really. Imagine being tied to two regions without any clear cut solutions thanks to politics beyond their control (even if it leads to certain benefits having eligible technically for those two regions.)
TW/HK has been within the APAC ecosystem since LMS existed in LoL, and have always been intrinsically tied to Riot's APAC family.
The LCP's home is in Taipei, and it's clear Riot wants to keep a healthy relationship.
Did you actually watch CN last year or what
It's literally a Friday, 2:30 PM. It's the same when people are attending Ascension Jakarta, they're still working...
I think you need to calm down just a tiny bit. I've been on record being the biggest SLT/Rio Company supporter thanks to their efforts in building up talents while being ctitical about some of the KR bias in some aspect of the ecosystem.
The hate was moreso at the performances of the teams that lost and some unwanted hate towards SLT just being KR- that's unfair, yes.
But at the same time, I think being over emotional about it isn't helping. Don't make this about you or trying to make the team you support an unwilling scapegoat, but bring the real issues like the instability of the other Tier 2 scene to light.
Just unable to make it to the tournament.