I want to understand your thinking about why you support flor. This is a very serious thread by the way
It seems a lot of blind support.
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why the hell would i do that lmao. this is a really shit bait but if it’s not bro get some help ur entire account is shitting on florescent. Ur not an average vct enjoyer ur a florescent hater who is convinced she is someone she isn’t. i dont even think you’re transphobic i think ur just genuinely deluded
So your a new account who is primarily taking a crap on flor for seemingly no reason and your defense is for the person to put their social media in a public thread? even if you have proof people aren't crappy all the time so unless you have stacks upon stacks of proof sitting for some reason somewhere in your files along with notable people who can vouch, your argument kinda just seems like its on 1 leg.
1 wooden rotten leg.
it’s crazy how up in arms you were about this but the second someone calls you out on your bullshit you go quiet, whats the matter? trying to fabricate a reason as to why “she’s mean” other than “i don’t like her so therefore she must be evil” like bro genuinely what does hating on trans people and flor bring to your life other than misery
I don't even understand this question.
You want to understand why people support flor?
Maybe because she's the most scrutinized pro by a landslide
Coming from a marginalized community to compete on the biggest stage, dealing with the pressure of T1 pro play on top of the hatred that people spew towards her on a daily basis? Maybe we want her to prove the people wrong who hate from a place of pure ignorance?
Just a thought.
Oh also, she's very good at clicking heads
Because that marginalized community has more difficult barriers to entry in all facets of life?
Because representation matters for inspiring others to follow in the same path and know that it's possible?
It feels like you're trolling a little bit because if you spent 5 seconds watching the chat of any of flor's matches, you'd know the adversity she (and others like her) face.
Message me if you're still struggling with this concept. Would be happy to talk to you more about it
That's an interesting opinion! And if we looked that way at trailblazers in their respective spaces, we would make no social welfare advancements as a society. Women may still be seen as less capable than men, POC may be seen as lower IQ than white people, etc. We need to celebrate these things to promote change
To say "everyone struggles" is a gross misrepresentation of marginalized peoples' struggles. Let me know when your government is actively trying to stop you from having basic rights and get back to me about struggle.
Players are people and we should look at them as such. Dehumanizing them down to just someone who plays a videogame is an insane worldview that strips the experience of watching esports down to a bland and boring exhibition.
Boaster is my favorite player because he's a positive force in the community. Some people might like Boostio who gets up and yells. That is part of who he is as a person and is why people connect with players
People that are not part of marginalized communitys might have harders lifes than ones who are part of, no who is in his right mind thinks woman are inferior than men in any ways, biologically we are different and we have our pros and cons, players are people and thats how they should be seen, im not dehumanizing anyone, everyone should be respected equally regardless everything else.
and about the boostio and boaster comparison: 2 different people with different personalities, and both never harmed anyone, cause the both do content in their way.
i think your opinion its the kind that makes the dumb guys despise this communitys, cause from what i read, you want to be treated differently, im myself im a part of a small spectrum of people that struggle far more than normal people, and i was always treated like everyone else, not always but most of the time, and thats how should be, i assume thats how every marginalized community wants to be treated, rather than seeking attention.
Brother, I am a 31 year old cisgender white man. But I have read enough to know that the fact that marginalized groups struggle doesn't nullify my hard work in getting where I am today.
Sure, anecdotally, someone who is not part of a marginalized community can have a harder life than someone who is. But there are statistics and a proven track record that prove the average trans person faces significant hard ship. What about that makes you uncomfortable or unable to recognize that?
The boostio and boaster comments were about following players' careers due to their personalities and who they are as people/their identities.
To say that the LGBTQ community is seeking attention is tone deaf at best. They want to be treated as equal. The problem is, they are not. Which is why we celebrate when they achieve something in the face of extreme adversity.
You clearly have no interest in changing your opinion or being open to different perspectives. So have a good day man.
Your fkn opinion its: we should celebrate marginalized communitys achievements cause they face more adversity than regular people.
My opinion is: everyone its the same thing, the adversity that every person faces shouldn't be part of the celebration of their achievement, and everyone should be treated the same.
you actually are indeed right. the thing is, no one actually looks at them as "just players". there have been more than one instance of talented female gcc pros being denied trials - not even contracts, but trials - because guys didn't want to "play with women"
https://x.com/melanji/status/1704272630696611894?t=MeKF0PdVo0IYIuY_NoDhMg&s=19
you think that is fair? from your argument, i think you don't.
thats why most people are cheering for flor - she's breaking a barrier and showing everyone that this isn't actually bad. so we can actually reach the ideal world you are talking about
ofcs thats not fair, but making a different league to marginalize even more these communitys doesn't seem like a solution for me, riot should make teams motivate teams into make mixed rosters.
and shes certainly breaking a barrier, a barrier that should,'t have to be there, because creating a different league for those people its just marginalize them even more.
im rooting to gc to disapear and make a single league, even then won't be the ideal world, but i would be fair.
I think you're misunderstanding GCC. It was not created to isolate women. It was created three years ago so women and NB could show their abilities and evolve together in a competitive environment, so they can slowly be introduced on the mixed rosters. It's meant to disappear once this happen more often. They're not "marginalizing even more", they're giving them space to show their abilities.
I understand your line of thought, but you have to understand that this is not a light change that will happen quickly. If riot forces the teams to use GCC players, it would cause more harm and backlash than good. They're aiming for long-term change, and this is the best way to let it happen the most naturally possible. And it's clearly working. Last year TLBR was the first GC team to compete on a challengers closed qualifier. This year, Shopify was the first GC team to qualify to T2, and Florescent is the first GC player to go to T1.
The next few years are promising, and GCC eventually will come to an end as a whole scene, to be integrated with the mixed. But this is still the beginning
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