SUZU!!!! <3

Y'all realize NRG are playing PRX and not Liquid right? PRX just dominated G2, and G2 just recently dominated NRG, so I really don't think NRG is getting an easy road here

bump bc I watched this post get buried in 45 seconds bc vlr was going crazy lmao

The formatting do be a bit fucked up but it's still readable I feel

I've been excited to do this and see where every team truly ended up. Placements are based on kickoff placements, so say if it seems like a team in 7th did better than a team in 6th or something like that, it doesn't matter because the 6th place team did technically make it farther in the bracket (GE and DRX are a good example of this). If it's places like 7th/8th where they ended in the same spot in the bracket, it goes off of Series, then Map, then Round. For one specific instance there was a team that had the same exact Series, Map, and Round counts, and I chose who was higher based off the fact that they played more rounds. Anyways, I hope you all enjoy, and here's to hoping VLR doesn't fuck up the formatting when I click post lmao.

Americas:
Rank Team Series Map Round

1. FUR 4-0 9-4 143-118 +25
2. G2 4-1 10-3 143-112 +31
3. NRG 4-2 10-6 174-145 +29
4. MIBR 2-3 8-10 173-191 -18
5. 100T 5-3 11-9 231-209 +22
6. C9 4-3 9-7 177-173 +4
7. EG 2-3 5-6 131-125 +6
8. LEV 2-3 5-6 107-124 -14
9. NV 2-3 5-8 149-155 -6
10. SEN 1-3 2-6 89-101 -12
11. KRU 0-3 2-6 67-97 -30
12. LOUD 0-3 1-6 56-90 -34

EMEA:
Rank Team Series Map Round

1. BBL 4-0 9-3 144-118 +26
2. M8 4-1 11-5 202-168 +34
3. TL 6-2 14-8 250-227 +23
4. FNC 4-3 10-10 239-235 +4
5. VIT 3-3 7-7 145-135 +10
6. TH 3-3 7-7 140-145 -5
7. NAVI 2-3 5-7 126-135 -9
8. GX 2-3 5-7 126-136 -10
9. KC 1-3 4-7 116-114 +2
10. ULF 1-3 3-6 75-100 -25
11. FUT 0-3 2-6 81-106 -25
12. PCF 0-3 2-6 72-97 -25

Pacific:
Rank Team Series Map Round

1. NS 4-0 9-3 150-100 +50
2. T1 5-1 12-4 192-154 +38
3. PRX 5-2 12-8 214-184 +30
4. RRQ 2-3 7-9 166-182 -16
5. DFM 4-3 8-8 159-164 -5
6. DRX 3-3 8-8 174-165 +9
7. GE 3-3 9-7 189-164 +25
8. FS 2-3 5-7 116-121 -5
9. GEN 1-3 4-7 129-137 -8
10. ZETA 1-3 3-7 85-113 -28
11. VL 0-3 2-6 81-106 -25
12. TS 0-3 1-6 51-82 -31

China:
Rank Team Series Map Round

1. AG 4-0 9-3 142-122 +20
2. XLG 3-1 9-5 169-122 +47
3. EDG 5-2 12-8 209-191 +18
4. BLG 4-3 11-9 218-217 +1
5. DRG 2-3 6-8 138-153 -15
6. TYL 4-3 10-7 186-163 +23
7. JDG 3-3 9-9 176-181 -5
8. TE 2-3 5-8 136-142 -6
9. WOL 2-3 6-8 134-153 -19
10. TEC 1-3 5-7 124-131 -7
11. NOVA 0-3 1-6 62-86 -24
12. FPX 0-3 1-6 54-87 -33

So real king

Did they win? No. Did n4rrate at least look a lot more comfortable? Yes. i think that with this role swap they've at least taken a step in the right direction, though they definitely still have a lot of work to do

HOLD UP ZETA ARE COOKING MAP 2 THERE'S HOPE

This is looking like hydrogen bomb vs coughing baby

Zeta, if you guys can make Team Secret look like a hydrogen bomb, it's time to blow it up already

if batmen plays like this every game, GE for sure going to master (3)

real lmao, I've been watching pro valorant religiously since 2023, I just can't remember a notable time that it happened lmao

Has there ever been anyone in the game that mid-game achieved the statline of 0-0-7, 0 kills, 0 deaths, 7 assists? Have we actually ever been able to see that happen in a game?

Haven't been able to actually play it yet but I have an Oath of Vengeance Paladin Rat (yes, a literal rat) that I created

I feel like it can't be worse than the Waylay I'm seeing man

This popped into my mind after watching the 100T - Sen game, but wouldn't it just make more sense to have Reduxx be the primary duelist/Waylay role and have N4rrate on the Yoru/flex role? I feel like N4rrate's play on the other roles has been much better than his Waylay, and if you need to have double duelist, Playing Yoru in double duelist would fit his specific playstyle as someone who's actually pretty decent at initiator much more than Waylay would, no? Just curious to hear other people's thoughts on this

I don't think I've ever been happier to have my pickems ruined :')

Yeah, the b defense wall ends at the little space before the doors so that you cut off attacker sightlines to allow you to rotate through mid doors.

Personally on Breeze I like to ult as much of the site as I can, but if you really want to stop a push through main on defense you can also ult to cover main entrances and that's fine too. Attacking ult you pretty much always just want to cover site

Most of the time I do like to orb spike on attack for post plant yeah. Back on old breeze I would sometimes use it to cover the openable door on A too if we couldn't get up there to close it, but that's obviously not a thing anymore, so yeah, I just use it for spike now because your wall will cut off all the necessary sightlines.

Idk what rank you are, but if you're anything under ascendant I promise that if you learn Viper well you will have a massive advantage. She is THE goat smoke agent on Breeze, and every game I've played her on Breeze I've fried. If someone else picks Viper, go double controller and pick Astra/Omen.

A good starting setup on defense to learn with is throwing your wall to cover B tunnel and the rotate from mid to A, and throwing orb on B main. I usually start by holding an angle watching B main for info, and as soon as I see anyone I un-peek, throw up the orb, wait for them to try using flashes or other utility to enter the site, and then molly the entrance. If they wait out your orb before attempting to come into site, just hide and do your best to survive until your team can make it in with the rotates. If you need to rotate A, throw up the mid wall and cross. I usually like to molly the way that attackers can get to A doors through mid while I'm crossing too to try to prevent them from swinging through the wall while I'm going into A doors. If single controller on attack, use your wall to split either site that you're going to. On A, throw the wall from where the rope to go up to halls was through the center of the pyramids on A, and on B I prefer to send it diagonally from right before the elbow entrance to the back left of site (this is mainly so along with cutting off sight lines on site, you're also using your wall to smoke the elbow flank.) If double controller, just default your wall to the A wall and let the other controller smoke B, which will allow you to throw up your wall during the round to create pressure on A while your team might be slowly going B.

I hope if you do decide to learn Viper that this helps!!

If I were to put together a serious one tho

Meiy (Duelist)
Tenz (Controller/Duelist flex)
Forsaken (Flex - Dude can literally play anything I s2g)
Chronicle (Sentinel)
Ethan (Initiator/Controller flex IGL)

I been around a while lmao

Qck (Duelist)
Zombs (controller)
Newzera (initiator)
Ardiis (Sage only)
Scream (Flex IGL)

This team is definitely winning every international

i fucking LOVE suzu, but I don't think she could make it ;-;

I made this post bc I was thinking about a post that I saw that said Noia was set to join MiBR with Zekken, and at first I just thought it was a joke. Then, I started thinking about how MiBR for some reason hasn't released what their roster was going to be yet, and I thought about the fact that if they were signing Noia, they wouldn't be able to say so until GC champs was done and she could be signed away from the team. Idk if it actually is real, but Noia being signed to MiBR could explain why they haven't released what their roster is going to be yet, and that got me thinking about what other GC players might be able to make it

god i wish Flor would've joined EG instead of Apex, imagine how much better her season could've been

SRG, TLV, and MiBR are the only teams that have players that I think could make it rn, they all seem like they're a cut above the rest of GC.

Also missing the point that I made saying that they shouldn't stick as a full roster if this was the case lmao. I think they've reached their peak of what they can do as a roster together, and to actually further themselves they would need to play with other teams with more experienced players. I don't think T2 is a great place for them to go bc T2 is extremely unorganized, and a lot of talent seems to just go wasted in T2, with potentials never being reached. it just doesn't make sense to go to a failing scene

where tf is KangKang?

as full rosters I would agree, but if all of these players were to join T1 teams that had competent IGL's and experienced players around them I think they would be able to at least perform to expectations of a T1 roster.

no, I think this too. I think it would require most of them to split up and join different teams that would help further their own individual performance rather than trying to stick together as a roster

it just doesn't really make much sense to go from GC to T2, T2 has the lowest funding of any of the three

Honestly I'm actually surprised by some of the players that I saw at the tournament this year, and GC players making the jump to T1 is looking more and more possible to me, with the ones that I'm specifically looking at being:

bstrdd
Daiki
Jelly
Dodonut
Noia
meL
srN
bizerra

Curious to hear other people's thoughts about it. I don't think that these players would be able to perform the same way as they do in GC obviously, but I also don't think they would just be dragging their team down if they were picked up (honestly, if a team like Furia decided to pick up like, bstrdd and Jelly their team would probably be like, 3 times better than anything they've put together since franchising started lmao)

mambo

I'm extra cringe and have a long list so sorry lmao

The Fragrant Flower Blooms With Dignity
Anohana: The Flower We Saw That Day
Umamusume
Attack on Titan
86
Darling in the Franxx
A Couple of Cuckoos
A Silent Voice
The Angel Next Door Spoils Me Rotten
A Place Further Than The Universe
Frieren: Beyond Journey's End
Sound: Euphonium!

While I don't know what the best team for him to move to would be, I don't think it's a hot take to say he should leave DFM. Dude has SO much talent, but that team just doesn't seem to be able to form a good roster around him. I think there most definitely is a team out there that could form a roster around him and make him actually look like the insane beast he is

holy fuck there is so much wrong with this list

we can get more downvotes

as nospinewig would say

LETS
UP
THOSE
NUMBEEERRRRRSSSSS

Whoever this anminkov person is is getting fucking boosted by something lmao, they are getting h a r d carried

Ya know, even though they did get destroyed in this series, I feel like overall this tournament was a good showing from Zeta, and it might be in their best interests to just sign these stand-ins. If they were able to produce a top 3 result in this little amount of time together, imagine what they could possibly do if they actually had the time

He can't go to a team that will guaranteed make him look worse lmao

Yeah, I think EDG played better as well, but SEN won two maps so they're ahead of them in the stats :/

Also, it p a i n e d me to put BLG above DRG because of how poorly BLG played this tournament, but they did technically win a map when DRG didn't so :/

s0m was in a good position to win that round anyways even if he didn't get the collat, besides that though, even though they went 3-3 in series count MIBR honestly played insane, they were a real contender at this tournament

It kinda fucked up the formatting but it's still readable I guess

People seemed to like this when I did it last year, so I decided to do it again, albeit a bit late this time. Here is a complete compilation of all the stats and placements for each team and region at the tournament!

Rank Team Series Map Round

1. NRG 6-0 13-4 209-168 +41
2. FNC 5-2 13-9 233-220 +13
3. DRX 5-3 13-9 246-231 +15
4. PRX 4-2 9-7 184-172 +12
5. MIBR 3-3 9-6 186-144 +42
6. TH 3-2 7-5 127-129 -2
7. G2 2-3 6-6 139-129 +10
8. GX 2-3 6-7 121-140 -19
9. T1 1-2 2-4 69-79 -10
10. XLG 1-2 2-5 72-85 -13
11. RRQ 1-2 2-5 60-77 -17
12. TL 1-2 2-5 64-84 -20
13. SEN 0-2 2-4 58-68 -10
14. EDG 0-2 1-4 58-61 -3
15. BLG 0-2 1-4 36-59 -23
16. DRG 0-2 0-4 41-57 -16

Amer Avg Rank: 1, 5, 7, 13 = 6.5
EMEA Avg Rank: 2, 6, 8, 12 = 7
PAC Avg Rank: 3, 4, 9, 11 = 6.75
CN Avg Rank: 10, 14, 15, 16 = 13.75

(Here's to hoping VLR doesn't fuck up the formatting of this post when I click Submit Thread)

EG picked up Apoth for the main roster for 2024, we don't count them, they'll pick up anyone

His confidence is another massive W in his favor tbh, you're 100% correct that his confidence would help bring a LOT of value to a team that needs it

I can see it. At the same time, I think Babybay (even though his time on the team was short) never had a series where it looked like he was just deadweight, other than his very first game back against Sen. As he continued, he only looked better and better. Meanwhile Icy and Tex DEFINITELY had moments where they looked like real deadweight on G2 (especially Icy.) I would say that overall Babybay looked mechanically better than Icy when Icy was on G2, and definitely looks smarter than Tex on Sentinel. I think there's a possibility the reason that Icy and Tex looked so good is because they were on duelist and had a literal god tier team behind them to help set them up, while in Babybay's case, he had to be much smarter than either of those two had to be while playing the sentinel role for them

I mean, I wouldn't count out EMEA either, did you see KOI and FUT this year? They need HELP

After seeing his performance with G2 during Stage 2, what are everybody's real thoughts on him? Personally, I think that after his showing there could be a real chance he actually gets picked up by a different tier 1 team next year. I think he looked like he could fill the sentinel role extremely well, and still had the mechanical talent to put up numbers and clips when his team needed him to, despite not playing professionally for around two years. I'm curious to hear what other people think about him, and the predictions of who might be looking to pick him up if you think he will get picked up.

Skuba is actually trying to deadlift this team all on his own this map, I s2g

I didn't watch this game bc I was working but holy fucking choke, all 3 maps?????????????? Lev choke first map, C9 choke second, and then Lev again choke 3rd????? neither of these teams should be here