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why does tenz always complain

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#1
king_bob

valorant’s the most balanced it’s ever been and he’s still crying when will he eveeeeer stop. this guy plays LEAGUE and he’s crying about Valorant’s balancing make it make sense please please

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rStellar
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valorant is not balanced bro what are you on

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king_bob
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when has it ever been balanced then

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silver5
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are indians too uneducated to comprehend the phrase "most balance it's ever been"

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rStellar
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??

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silver5
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most balanced its ever been means its relatively balanced, not absolutely balanced, please be educated before speaking nonsense

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penpen
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relative to what tho? bcos the point tenz is making is over the whole game over all the years. so to say well its the most balanced in a short amount of time when comparing it to neon meta that we just had then yeah it will be. but as a whole its not balanced at all. its horrible to hold a site now. the most balanced its ever been was chamber meta. atleast you had to actually aim to get a kill.

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rStellar
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thats not nonsense and i am sure you are educated enough to not be racist

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Rakooon
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They hated him because he told them the truth.

#49
grisx23
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why are you getting downvoted lol its been most balanced since ever

#37
Cheasle2
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if you delete Tejo, the game is very balanced.

#38
rStellar
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i agree

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bees
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It's extremely well-balanced despite all the whining about Tejo

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Divine_Thunder
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he is not wrong about points where ppl kill me while being in air and shit. i dont agree with other things but this "precise gunplay" should be fixed cuz there is no way it works so many times

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FiredSkull
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Can happen irl so 10/10 realistic precise gunplay

#22
Prancer
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If you are skilled enough you can be 100% accurate while running irl, the game is unrealistic and therefore not balanced

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ASAS
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"valorants the most balanced its ever been" this is just not true

#6
king_bob
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#itstrue

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kyro1
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it is true

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Effluxi
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I mean, you can argue whatever, but I'd say it's more balanced than when we had more run and gun, Chamber Viper Omen picked nearly all the time everywhere.

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Denjisideals
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The weekly "Tenz always complains" threads are back

#8
king_bob
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should be daily to keep up with tenz

#9
zetydy
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val is actually really balanced compared to a lot of other games.

People will never be happy tho, just want to be mad at the game.

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Effluxi
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he complains because he'd rather play CS but he was too shit for it back in the day and now is stuck with a fanbase of valorant players that won't follow him if he leaves. He's never actually liked Val.

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Anzaldinho
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realest shit

#32
sussybaka
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well good for him, cs sucks anyway

#36
soonwookong
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he wasn't actually ever very bad and he was quite young when he left cs2, some people did think he was part of na cs' bigger potential rookies, its just he "sold out" to val very quick and won't be welcome back by cs community

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he was never a Tier 1 pro in CSGO because he had no game sense. When he got benched from C9, he complained that he needed to be micromanaged, which is an absolute joke.

he would try the dumbest hero plays like pushing through smokes, or randomly pushing enemies and dying, and then he complained that he wasn't being micromanaged.

it's like trying to micromanage your Jett/Reyna that keeps pushing and dying in Ranked, except TenZ had no get out of jail free card in CSGO. he could aim but he had rocks for a brain.

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soonwookong
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i didnt say he was t1, i just said he wasnt terrible, he did have overpushing issues like the average asian pro had. nobody considers him a good player yet, just someone with good potential

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Nef0r0
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he was too stupid, in cs you make a dumb mistake you are almost guaranteed to die. guess what, S-tier teams like Liquid 2019 would fucking obliterate him for even the smallest mistake

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Elso
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who tf cares about TenZ

#15
silver5
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cuz tenz is straight up retarded

#19
lakpx
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^^

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Effluxi
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I'm sure Zellsis agrees

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Ryandr
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I don't play the game anymore so I don't know what state it's in and don't watch tenz either. But isn't someone like tenz very good for the scene? Like someone with actual influence in the scene whose voice will be heard by the people working behind the game. If the complains are related to things that are actually bad in the game then I think tenz complaining isn't bad. And if you don't agree with his views or are annoyed then just don't watch him or just completely ignore him no?

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the problem is his complaints are nonsense yet influential which is annoying, like they are called influencers for a reason their opinion changes a lot of people's views. an example is him saying that the game is unplayable with the amount of utils. the whole point of utils is to differentiate the game from just straight up 5v5 deathmatch no util. a good util combo is supposed to maximize the chance u gain a kill, like how 2 grenades threw with a lineup could 1 shot person if u got the info. if u want "precise gunplay" as tenz mentions, just go play games with 0 utils and 0 throwables, why bother playing valorant? the whole unique selling point is util, tenz always just speaks nonsense without considering the consequence and influence tons of viewers to pressure valorant on making decisions that is against the essence of the game. his opinion is literal dogshit

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penpen
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yet valorant literally started with the sole purpose of having abilities help the gun fights and not get the kills thats what they said along side precise gunplay so his opinion holds ground. u can disagree w him but realistically majority of pros agree n i think ppl are gonna trust ppl who play the game professionally over anyone else

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Effluxi
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Tenz doesn't play professionally anymore and "the majority of pros agree" isn't even true. The loudest pros in NA agree. Not all.

#39
milflover92
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Derke and Sayf are all over twitter upset at the meta so it's a little more than just loud NA pros

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Rakooon
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Would they still have complained about the meta if they didn't get completely dogwalked by T1 at Masters? Probably not I reckon.

#43
milflover92
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T1 weren't playing a lot of Tejo so probably yes still. T1 is maybe the worst example for why someone might hate the new meta. Teams who got dogged by G2 and DRX should be more upset than anything.

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Effluxi
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Two people who got dogwalked in Bangkok for not keeping up with the meta are blaming the meta being unfair for their loss? Wow.

Anyway they nearly lost to KC in kickoff. So either they're dog and making excuses or you think KC is good. Either way I win.

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bees
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How are they gonna be upset at the "meta" when the team that least conforms to it just won Bangkok

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penpen
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he played last year where it was still a problem bruh what. his opinion is still far more valuable then majority of players. the majority do agree. been several ppl reply to tenz, as another comment already says derke sayf also. a bunch of others. thats just dumb to deny it.

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Effluxi
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There's a significant difference between "the majority agree" and "the loudest part of the community get their takes directly from his feces".

Last year it wasn't a problem and the "bunch of others" weren't complaining. Even this year, Two EMEA players who lost to not being able to adapt + NA known for whiners being unable to reflect on obvious internal team issues and blaming other shite instead. Don't see APAC whinging.

Tenz has been complaining about util since launch, he's never liked Val, always preferred CS; but he took the opportunity to become the face of Val anyway and now can't go back because his Val viewerbase won't follow him and CS' base thinks he's a sellout (because he is tbf)

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penpen
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its got nothing to not being able to adapt since they play it also lmao. last year it was a problem even the year before, look at the clip of EG holding on bind against PRX, ult after ult abilities flying. it is not about gunplay then lmao. look at the clips of the util dump you cant just hold a site. but the whole "precise gunplay" is factually not a thing anymore. moving from a dying cs scene to val like many other pros did you just wanna have a reason to hate. i get you dont have the like the guy but his opinion holds is far more valuable bcos atleast he was a pro not so long ago he understands the game to a far deeper level than any of us.

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Effluxi
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They lost not being able to adapt vs NOT the meta. T1 wasn't playing what was considered "the meta". I wasn't claiming they complained cuz they got owned by it, but rather they're unable to keep up in general and think if the game was more aim they'd win. They're also wrong about that, of course, because then EDG would be rolling them even harder.

He doesn't like Val and never has done. You haven't refuted that. Instead you just resort to accusing me of "just not wanting to like him" as if thinking his takes are shit is complete heresy. He's as fallable as any other human being, lol.

Yes he's played the game at a much higher level than us. No, I don't believe that means he understands the reasons behind game design decisions. He knows how to use the game's tools to succeed at playing it. You don't need to understand the why's to do that, and he clearly doesn't, whether because of willful ignorance or not.

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penpen
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the whole " last year it wasnt a problem" should be framed as "i didnt see ppl complaining so it didnt happen" it happens slowly and changes over a bit longer of a period of time. the chamber meta was by far the best bcos atleast it was just ppl with insane aim able to utilize an agent and gain advantages that way, instead of just entirely broken characters with so much util that makes it impossible to do anything.

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Effluxi
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You can just admit you have a different direction for the game in mind. If you want Val to be CS 2... well just go watch CS2, it exists now.

There's nothing wrong with a meta leaning a bit more into the util half of the game, especially when we now have so many viable agents and comp choices.

#52
bees
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In the game's history, has there ever been more than like 5% of deaths to utility?

#20
w1atrak
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Do we play different games?

#21
huzi420
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thing is hes right but hes so fuckin annoyign man like he retired at his peak and still complains. bro you are DONE just move on

#23
masterX
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Because he is tenz

#24
ASAS
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I'd rather have him than a yes man agreeing with everything Riot does to the game

#29
KClaw
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His takes ( alot of them not all obviously) are right but the way he talks abt them and presents them makes audience feels like he's bitching abt the game thus people don't like it

#34
efweema
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Because Tenz is a zellsis

#54
Yistyy
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why are all your posts about either tenz or sen

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