why does tenz always complain

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king_bob

valorant’s the most balanced it’s ever been and he’s still crying when will he eveeeeer stop. this guy plays LEAGUE and he’s crying about Valorant’s balancing make it make sense please please

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valorant is not balanced bro what are you on

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king_bob

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when has it ever been balanced then

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silver5

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are indians too uneducated to comprehend the phrase "most balance it's ever been"

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??

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most balanced its ever been means its relatively balanced, not absolutely balanced, please be educated before speaking nonsense

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relative to what tho? bcos the point tenz is making is over the whole game over all the years. so to say well its the most balanced in a short amount of time when comparing it to neon meta that we just had then yeah it will be. but as a whole its not balanced at all. its horrible to hold a site now. the most balanced its ever been was chamber meta. atleast you had to actually aim to get a kill.

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rStellar

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thats not nonsense and i am sure you are educated enough to not be racist

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They hated him because he told them the truth.

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if you delete Tejo, the game is very balanced.

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i agree

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he is not wrong about points where ppl kill me while being in air and shit. i dont agree with other things but this "precise gunplay" should be fixed cuz there is no way it works so many times

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Can happen irl so 10/10 realistic precise gunplay

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Prancer

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If you are skilled enough you can be 100% accurate while running irl, the game is unrealistic and therefore not balanced

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"valorants the most balanced its ever been" this is just not true

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#itstrue

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kyro1

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it is true

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I mean, you can argue whatever, but I'd say it's more balanced than when we had more run and gun, Chamber Viper Omen picked nearly all the time everywhere.

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Denjisideals

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The weekly "Tenz always complains" threads are back

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king_bob

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should be daily to keep up with tenz

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zetydy

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val is actually really balanced compared to a lot of other games.

People will never be happy tho, just want to be mad at the game.

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Effluxi

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he complains because he'd rather play CS but he was too shit for it back in the day and now is stuck with a fanbase of valorant players that won't follow him if he leaves. He's never actually liked Val.

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realest shit

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well good for him, cs sucks anyway

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he wasn't actually ever very bad and he was quite young when he left cs2, some people did think he was part of na cs' bigger potential rookies, its just he "sold out" to val very quick and won't be welcome back by cs community

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who tf cares about TenZ

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silver5

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cuz tenz is straight up retarded

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lakpx

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^^

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I'm sure Zellsis agrees

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Ryandr

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I don't play the game anymore so I don't know what state it's in and don't watch tenz either. But isn't someone like tenz very good for the scene? Like someone with actual influence in the scene whose voice will be heard by the people working behind the game. If the complains are related to things that are actually bad in the game then I think tenz complaining isn't bad. And if you don't agree with his views or are annoyed then just don't watch him or just completely ignore him no?

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the problem is his complaints are nonsense yet influential which is annoying, like they are called influencers for a reason their opinion changes a lot of people's views. an example is him saying that the game is unplayable with the amount of utils. the whole point of utils is to differentiate the game from just straight up 5v5 deathmatch no util. a good util combo is supposed to maximize the chance u gain a kill, like how 2 grenades threw with a lineup could 1 shot person if u got the info. if u want "precise gunplay" as tenz mentions, just go play games with 0 utils and 0 throwables, why bother playing valorant? the whole unique selling point is util, tenz always just speaks nonsense without considering the consequence and influence tons of viewers to pressure valorant on making decisions that is against the essence of the game. his opinion is literal dogshit

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yet valorant literally started with the sole purpose of having abilities help the gun fights and not get the kills thats what they said along side precise gunplay so his opinion holds ground. u can disagree w him but realistically majority of pros agree n i think ppl are gonna trust ppl who play the game professionally over anyone else

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Effluxi

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Tenz doesn't play professionally anymore and "the majority of pros agree" isn't even true. The loudest pros in NA agree. Not all.

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milflover92

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Derke and Sayf are all over twitter upset at the meta so it's a little more than just loud NA pros

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Rakooon

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Would they still have complained about the meta if they didn't get completely dogwalked by T1 at Masters? Probably not I reckon.

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milflover92

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T1 weren't playing a lot of Tejo so probably yes still. T1 is maybe the worst example for why someone might hate the new meta. Teams who got dogged by G2 and DRX should be more upset than anything.

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Effluxi

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Two people who got dogwalked in Bangkok for not keeping up with the meta are blaming the meta being unfair for their loss? Wow.

Anyway they nearly lost to KC in kickoff. So either they're dog and making excuses or you think KC is good. Either way I win.

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penpen

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he played last year where it was still a problem bruh what. his opinion is still far more valuable then majority of players. the majority do agree. been several ppl reply to tenz, as another comment already says derke sayf also. a bunch of others. thats just dumb to deny it.

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There's a significant difference between "the majority agree" and "the loudest part of the community get their takes directly from his feces".

Last year it wasn't a problem and the "bunch of others" weren't complaining. Even this year, Two EMEA players who lost to not being able to adapt + NA known for whiners being unable to reflect on obvious internal team issues and blaming other shite instead. Don't see APAC whinging.

Tenz has been complaining about util since launch, he's never liked Val, always preferred CS; but he took the opportunity to become the face of Val anyway and now can't go back because his Val viewerbase won't follow him and CS' base thinks he's a sellout (because he is tbf)

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its got nothing to not being able to adapt since they play it also lmao. last year it was a problem even the year before, look at the clip of EG holding on bind against PRX, ult after ult abilities flying. it is not about gunplay then lmao. look at the clips of the util dump you cant just hold a site. but the whole "precise gunplay" is factually not a thing anymore. moving from a dying cs scene to val like many other pros did you just wanna have a reason to hate. i get you dont have the like the guy but his opinion holds is far more valuable bcos atleast he was a pro not so long ago he understands the game to a far deeper level than any of us.

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penpen

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the whole " last year it wasnt a problem" should be framed as "i didnt see ppl complaining so it didnt happen" it happens slowly and changes over a bit longer of a period of time. the chamber meta was by far the best bcos atleast it was just ppl with insane aim able to utilize an agent and gain advantages that way, instead of just entirely broken characters with so much util that makes it impossible to do anything.

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w1atrak

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Do we play different games?

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huzi420

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thing is hes right but hes so fuckin annoyign man like he retired at his peak and still complains. bro you are DONE just move on

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masterX

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Because he is tenz

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ASAS

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I'd rather have him than a yes man agreeing with everything Riot does to the game

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KClaw

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His takes ( alot of them not all obviously) are right but the way he talks abt them and presents them makes audience feels like he's bitching abt the game thus people don't like it

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efweema

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Because Tenz is a zellsis