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how did EG win champs

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#1
tungsten_cube_

like all these mfs fell off so hard how did they do that

demon1 is ass
c0m is dead weight for the first 2/3 of the year
ethan might be decent but hes so irrelevant i forgot he was on this team
boostio cant even get the 3 kills he needs to pi
jawgemo is still good but he was not solo carrying these clowns
even potter isnt living up to what she pulled off in 23

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Ronyko23
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Prx choked...

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NioMS
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Nah Prx got insanely lucky to beat Loud and EG to make grands in the first place

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KClaw
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Actually right

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Ballsamolee
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no prx were just outclassed. the only reason they beat EG the first time around was because EG choked and were straight up trolling from what I can see two maps in a row. it was one of the very few times in which i was not convinced a team would win a grand finals with veto advantage

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Astar
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people downvoting the truth. EG is a momentum based team and PRX fell under pressure in the biggest game like always

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n1cf
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loud fnatic kryptonite + pooper rex

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king_bob
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retarded EU narrative still lives. EG wins Tokyo if they won that coinflip map 3 in the UBF, meanwhile Champs EG would not only guarantee a Bo3 win vs FNC but would’ve also 3-0d them in the final if they had map advantage, especially in LA. Champs EG > Tokyo EG + FNC placed 4th + FNC fall off began there XD

#31
n1cf
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EU? since when turkey is eu my guy? also ubf does not mean shit when you got ran in gf 3-0

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king_bob
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still an EU narrative, but yeah it’s weird that the Turkish guy is dick sucking EU anyways, also UBF win = map advantage which EG and FNC were practically polar opposites there until EG upgraded in Champs

#33
n1cf
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wow i wonder who is the reason of me ''dick sucking'' EU

#34
king_bob
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last time I checked cned never played for FNC

#41
nobody___100
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bruh you are dumb
cned played for ACEND which was EU team

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NioMS
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They would've never beaten Fnatic especially not in a BO5 same for Prx

Only Loud could beat FNC

#17
Lemillian
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Cope FNC fanboy lol

#19
OCARINA
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He was right stop spamming cope as a 🦜 FNC was the best team ever in 2023 they shitted on EG and PRX effortlessly only loud who locked in just to revenge their 11-3 flop

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Ozukah
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literally in their prime (tokyo) the third map in upper finals went all 24 rounds 😭 and this wasnt even EG prime, couldnt even beat LOUD who eg beat in a b05 that same tourney

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starxito_sike
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yeah because eg changed their whole comp and gameplan map 3, funny thing is they were 12-5 up and no one talks about it

#35
shaq_attaqr
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he's talking aout upper bracket finals on split, not grand finals bind (which was their permaban so they just played a ranked comp)

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Ryandr
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It was a great system where all of them complemented each other really well. There synergy was perfect. Jawgemo and demon 1 duo fit so well.

#6
lorenzopajaroFC
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Loud threw against them

#8
ionlyHave1Zuni
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Brimstone
Viper
Omen
Raze
Skye

#37
Jezy
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Where in the world is sova? (c0m’s one trick)

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Bonkbonk201
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it's bold to even assume they were good in the first place, they were mid the entire year and then magically become good for their one massive win, It was clear imo it was a fluke (due to the fact it couldn't be replicated because even the players didn't know how they did so good)

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TheLegend27
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Did you even watch them that year, as soon as they got Demon1 the team took like a month to integrate him and then they were the best team the rest of the year, they got second in regionals, second in Masters, then won champs. How is that “one win” and a “fluke”. Watch the games bro don’t just comment

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Bonkbonk201
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2023/01/19 is when demon1 joined, they had a qf finish in lock-in which u can argue was too soon for demon1 to be integrated as it was only a month after he joined, but then even throughout the season they lost to teams like furia, lev and 100 thieves all of the above either scraped through like EG did on 4 wins 5 losses or missed out entirely on qualifying.

you say "watch the games" but u literally got the wrong placement in regionals, they finished third behind both LOUD and NRG.

you say "watch the games" but u didn't think to mention that in the masters where they placed so highly they beat a fallen off their prime DRX who looked severely washed, a fut which shouldn't even have qualified for the tournament, Loud which to their credit they genuinely just played a good game against and a 100thieves who for the past 3 years have looked so mid a team like rankers nowadays genuinely looks like they'd win against them.

in the champs that they did win they had by far the easiest route to the grand final with every single team that finished top 4 but them being on the opposite side of the bracket than them by now, EDG did not look nearly as good as they do now and DRX had began their fall off.

As i said in my first comment, They were mid the entire year, finishing 4/5 in regular season, proceeding this, they get some of the nicest seeds for brackets imaginable and beat 1 team which were falling off and 2 which shouldn't even have been there. What part of this provides "They are a strong consistent contender for success", From the dictionary itself a "fluke" is an unexpected stroke of good luck, No doubt in my mind the players were good to be able to win, but they had a serious amount of unexpected good luck to help them along their way.

All of this is factual information, The only thing that's conjecture or subjective is your comments which base off placements rather than the route taken, It would be pretty easy for a Football, Rugby, Etc team to get to the finals of their respective events considering their opponents are a consistent class below them, It doesn't take away their win but it's not exactly something to be praised for.

#52
Yistyy
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read this post and hush.

https://www.vlr.gg/456744/the-2023-eg-disrespect-is-ridiculous/#1

#53
Bonkbonk201
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The second I open this post I see someone getting upvoted for the exact same thing I'm saying in different words.

#55
Yistyy
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it's an awful take because demon1 wasn't even that good in tokyo and the team was still able to get to the finals. also you saying "it's bold to even assume they were good in the first place" is just braindead.

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literally how did this become a real take. Demon1 was 9th rated in Tokyo, upgraded to 7th in playoffs and 5th if you take out the 3-0 GF loss. Demon1 played great in Tokyo lol.

#57
Yistyy
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he was good, but he wasn't elite like at champs. that's the whole point, that even when he isn't playing at his peak EG were still an incredible team.

#58
king_bob
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but Demon1 definitely was good? Great even? I swear sometimes people phrase Tokyo Demon1 like he was some kinda anchor it’s so brain dead lol.

#60
Yistyy
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Well, that's not what I meant. I'm a big demon1 fan, I would be the last person to shit on him.

#10
mimosa1
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let’s be real potter has not had a good lineup for the past 2 years

considering no team has been able to make demon1 look good she built an incredible system which allowed him to flourish, can’t discredit her work

#11
CubeEnjoyer
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I have a theory that 8 team LANs are the most competitive since you are forced to play all of the best teams in each region while in champs EDG didn't have to go against FNATIC or GenG

#12
MissesHisShots
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He means 2023 not 2024

#47
hellfire
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?? edg would've dogwalked them

#13
burritx
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Loud choked against PRX and they threw with that bullshit 3 smokes comp against EG

#14
NioMS
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Fuck them man

It should've been Loud v Fnatic grand finals but those guys took us both out instead

#15
UBClears
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Jawgemo was the #1 Raze (pre nerf)
Demon1 was able to entry second
c0m’s flanks and Sova gameplay was unmatched
Ethan was Mr reliable
Boostio was good enough 😂

Basically they had the best double duelist combo but they would have lost 0-3 to FNC

#16
number1_Demon1_fan
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Coz potter (and Zikz) created a perfect system that allowed every player to pop off every map, also has insane chemistry.

#18
OCARINA
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The real true reason is potter she outsmarted alecks
And exploited every single prx's faults

#20
OCARINA
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Still FNC deserves this champs

#21
Azzelastia
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They were the best team in the world.

#25
tungsten_cube_
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thank you for answering the question

#28
sideshowsbaldhead
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unironically true all the botzillians and memea fans itt are just coping bc their teams bottled it

#24
foythvlr
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lightning in a bottle team. very good system in a meta that suited them + lucky brackets and groups + the knife incident + individual performances peaked in champions and got maximized by the system. everything just went right for them, and they knew how to abuse that

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cioccolat
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literally all of it was Fnatic's fault
if LOUD had won Lock In i guarantee you that the competitive landscape wouldve been different, Fnatic probably wouldve not even won the second masters, PRX probably wouldve took that

#36
Yistyy
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Its so ironic that the only person who knows what they're talking about is assmolestia of all people in this thread 🤣🤣

No offense guys, but did yall not watch vct 2023 at all? Because the answer isn't loud or prx choking, or avoiding fnatic, or whatever other bullshit these clowns are saying.

EG played some of the most tactical valorant of all time, everything they did had a purpose, and every opponent was gameplanned against extremely well. Their comps and maps were so clearly a level above everyone else, and their synergy and teamwork was unmatched. And among all else, every single player was playing at an elite level, especially demon1 who was unarguably the best player itw after champs.

#39
shaq_attaqr
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brazilians and eu fanboys apparently think this game is about shoot good=win, wonder how they'd have reacted to 2018-2019 astralis

#40
Yistyy
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Yeah it's actually mind-boggling how dumb most of these guys sound. Like, the known ragebaiter with awful takes said something smarter than 80% of the people in this thread.

#42
mustbelupus
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the eg fluke narrative only exists because the roster literally blew up, and it was due to the org and not even the players wanting to split. if eg sticks together for 2024 they qualify to madrid GUARANTEED since they would only have to play 2 matches against g2 with net and loud with qck, and most likely win madrid while easily surpassing both sen and geng since they had already perfected their own system

#43
sergueiessenine
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miracle run and fluke win, would not have won if prx had a stronger mental

#44
MioIsTheProblem
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i think they win champs because they beat the other teams in the tournament
-sudan

#45
teb-
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concur

#48
hellfire
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good system
good form (important) (shocker)

#49
bilim
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If you judge them individually, they definitely lost to PRX members. but in terms of team and meta back then they were better than PRX. They're the most complete team if they stack to this day. They have really great duelists/smokers (jawgemo/demon1), good scan/stun initator support, good igl in calling and rotation

#51
howsyfps
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cope

#54
m0rtem
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Sova fracture, Jawg entry, demon1 baiting

#59
Camden
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gotta keep in mind it was a different meta. Skye meta both EG and PRX thrived in it. Ethan was a top skye player. Also, having a great raze and jett benefitted both teams at the time.

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