I think its equal in difficulty if not harder to win than champs however I do not think its worth more than champs. I think tournaments should be based off Prestige and prize money to determine its value, in which champs has lock/in beat in both categories.

Okay so what is the right way to compare the speed in both games? I have yet to find hard evidence that CS is faster than Val. Everyone just says it feels faster. Ive also played a lot of Apex legends and every character in that game moves at the same rate but everyone thought gibby moved slower than everyone else bc he was fat and pumped his arms more slowly. Are we sure that we aren't experiencing a similar experience

So a standardized measurement isnt equal? Ive played both games as well

I play both games

I keep hearing people say CS2 movement is faster than Valorant is this really true? I tried finding videos comparing the two but all i find is people on reddit just saying it is. Based on my own calculations i found the Valorant has faster movement. Since Speed = Distance / Time. Valorant knife movement is already given in the game being 6.75 m/s while CS says the knife speed is 250 hammer units/second while each hammer unit converted to meters according to a developer is 0.01905 meters meaning the speed in CS is 4.7625 m/s. I wonder if people just feel that CS is faster bc of shittier servers making peekers advantage more impactful or if most players play 4:3 making the game feel faster.

did something similar went from 0.327 800 to 0.2 1600 but been hard stuck in immortal since episode 3.

same but imm 2
0.2 1600dpi

They are 7/10 valuable

So if Sen do better than 7th best in the league this upcoming season then will you admit that tenz and sacy aren’t the two most important pieces

C9 had unknown players that year and Sen had 4 champions lol

Half of c9 “supporting cast” ain’t even in the league anymore. Regardless of qualifying for a lan or anything they had a way better year than Sen. they actually won some prize money.

Literally in 2023 Zellsis had a better year without those people

As important as tenz, zekken, and sacy that were all on the same team in 2023 that came 7th in Americas vs adding Zellsis and JohnQT that resulted in a kickoff win, masters win and top 4 champs

Most valuable is crazy when they didn’t get good until Zellsis and especially JohnQT joined

And Sen was already good before tenz joined and they were bad before and after sacy joined

screwface is literally a champion

russia

his madrid wasnt over that bad. Him and his team won 5 rounds against loud i think its more than a duelist issue there

his kickoff, stage 1 and 2 was very very good

he had a rough year until stage 2

Oh i guess his rating was so bad against GenG that his overall jett rating was negative for the tournament i think he only played 4 times the whole tournament. we can look at his jett stats from stage 1 to stage 2. He played better on Jett in stage 2

also my main arguement is zekkens consistancy between jett and raze/neon. Zekken is an amazing raze and neon. The main thing im pointing out is his jett and his OP. His jett rating this tourney was very up and down

Well if you say that then Derke wasnt even fnatics best player in tokyo and kangkang was higher rated than him at that event

well i was kinda talking about current form but yes derke is defenitely what im looking for when i look at duelist. Good at both jett and raze and can OP.

kangkang has historically been very good at the duelist role even going back to last champs and tokyo, but yes this year champs definitely catapulted him into the discussion for me because i think being a title holder is important or else i would talk about sayf, saya and others

i would not call him the goat duelist. maybe goat jett. jawgemo played the counterpart for him. You saw how he played this year as the pure duelist

For the debate on best duelist I personally rate Aspas, kangkang, and T3xture ahead of Zekken. As a pure duelist I believe the consistancy between jett and raze is better on aspas, kangkang, and t3xture. KangKang and Aspas has shown their neon and it is also very good. T3xture hasnt shown his neon but neon shares similiar maps with raze. Also i believe that aspas, kangkang, and t3xtures OP is much better than zekkens. I find zekkens jett top tier still but not ahead of these 3. I was a really big fan of his when he was a Raze and Sova main. Maybe with sacys potential departure he can pick up sova again.

i think it should be juicy. he won ascension and is underaged so they had yay keep his seat warm for him

yea most of the middle east is in asia and turkey is one of the coutries thats the asia side

turkey and russia

i said that

aspas is a weaboo close enough yea

Every international tournament winner has either had an Asian or from Asia on their team pure dominance except for LOUD

tarik was igl when he won a major with c9

fpx won masters

when has a champion ever joined a roster and they ever won anything. The only time i could think of is chronicle to fnc but he also came with leo. Most winning teams are made up of players that are unproven and they prove it when they win

i really wish he went back to sova.

but yea basically i dont think anything else is a fluke in valorant except when it comes to questionable riot rulings or visa isues. Teams making deep runs because they beat teams that people dont think are "good" enough is not a fluke

wrong teams made it? every team that qualified deserved to be there

but you never know. if they do beat them in the rematch then they play gambit in the first round and gambit was up in the grand finals 2-1 and champs that year didnt have losers bracket so no map veto advantage for grand finals so likely maps in the bo3 would be very similiar

But like keydstars beat them and considering what the teams did after that game its likely they would have to rematch keydstars and keydstars almost cameback on them from a 7-0 deficit

juicy but at least yay kept his seat warm

Theres still one more S tier event it starts November 8th

an extra game could make all the difference. also they could have potentially played keydstars twice. who knows they couldve just been worst in that specific match up. Also matchups mattered bc at that point in time Envy as never beaten an EMEA team and their masters 1 run, won without beating an EMEA team. Also every team is different all the more reason why this game mattered. Not every team handles loss well. No every team can be like optic losing the first game of the tourney and bounce back, many teams could just lose all confidence and bomb out.

what im saying is that its more controversial to say hes not chinese than it would be to leave him off

You dont think that having to replay a game down 0-7 would fuck with them and their confidence, also a majority of that x10c roster made champs this year

it shouldnt be

i think of it more as they shouldnt of made it that far bc of the keydstar stuff

Um they shouldve lost to keyd stars in groups. Riot made them replay the game with a 7-0 lead

I wholeheartedly believe that acend shouldnt of even made playoffs that tournament. Keydstars shoudlve beat them

I dont think talon was a fluke but got lucky in the draws. RRQ got very unlucky. Kru was also not a fluke