alright give it to me straight

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realistically how are sen’s chances against g2

i want to hear unbiased options from other people

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i would say 35/65 seems fair

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youre on absolute drugs if you dont think its a 45/55 for G2.
The only reason it isnt a 50/50 is because sen have insanely slow starts but even then i only give G2 the benefit of the doubt because theyve only played some of the most WRANK teams in the entire region

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bottom 5 vlr takes all time💔
reminder that g2 are currently 4-0 in maps, and 52-28 in rounds against LEV and C9, who lets be honest arent 'WRANK' teams.

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yea they are brother wdym. Lev even if you consider their last game good looked like a tier 2 team when going against G2. Everytime anything went good for them they started overheating and running into G2s individual plays (another part of why G2 arent actually as good as people make them seem). They had no synergy or chemistry with each other, their plays were basic, and their comps are horrible because they didnt think about the roles they just picked up good players
C9 are C9, xeppa had 1 good series and people think that C9 is any better than they were last year.
If G2 were 4-0 and 52-28 against 100T and Loud then id consider calling them the best team in the world

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You might be retarded 💔

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i love how its only the G2 fans that are saying all this lmao

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Not a g2 fan but you might have brain damage

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Lmao aight man, ill be back when the time is right dont worry 😂

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saying "They had no synergy or chemistry with each other" about a team known for synergy and teamwork shows you don't know what you're talking about , but time will tell ig

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...You need to read it again or change your flair cause youre either delusional stupid or glossed over my post, for your sake i hope its the last

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ok

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I mean i agree G2 havent faced any decent team and have more mistakes than people realise but they do seem tactically and individually more superior and polished than sen, which is pretty normal because sen has new players and changed some roles around. sen has a shot because they have more talent, momentum and resilience, but its not crazy to say G2 are absolute favorites lol

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They look more polished because G2 play pretty valorant, there are very few mistakes cause everyone knows what they need to do in the early round, they all just need to follow the protocols for the mid round, and for any retake situation theyll all have their own setups from different angles of the map. Its very homogenized and is very nice to look at but that means theyre readable and once they have to start deviating from that "playbook"(quotes cause obviously they dont play round to round off a book but im saying thats the look of the style) their game becomes a lot more messy and a lot more individual.
Thats why G2 are always playing super perfect one day and the next theyve completely crumbled and they just get destroyed by teams who have no business beating them. Just look at their off season, before they had everyone up to speed on the "playbook" they were getting rolled the moment they went against a team that had some decent firepower that could really challenge G2.
They also got 0 maps in the playoffs for champs with 2 of 4 maps being absolute stomps against teams with some great firepower

Sen on the otherhand ALWAYS look messy and inconsistent round to round yet they were at least the third best of last year

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im a sen fan but imma be real here. sen is fucked.

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its so embarassing being a sen fan and seeing other fans treat their own team like theyre back to 2022 form. Learn how to breakdown a game and figure out that G2s wins arent that impressive, they arent the new FNC era

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i live in apac bro. i dont get to see g2 play their games so i cant breakdown their games. im going based off of na fans who probably watched the full game. also, g2 have been able to comfortably beat the shit teams while sen had to go the length to finish off their games against 100t of all teams and loud

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yea so youre making your judgement off of one of the most glazed teams glazers and the fact that SEN had a close match against whats likely the 4th best team in americas?

Im speechless. You know you could just go watch a vod right if you really wanted an educated opinion?

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mate its just esports. i have got better things to do with my life than just watch through like 2 hours of gameplay

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ok but then i dont understand why youre claiming sen is fucked with 0 backing or knowledge of wtf youre talking about. Like come on you gotta understand how that looks right?? If you dont know then say you dont know, this just comes off as doomerism and no one is for it.

Also you say you got a life but im seeing an awful lot of your messages here in vlr my guy

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on average that is like 44 messages a month 1.5 messages or so in a day, its the same as you. its not that much, considering i only post like 10-15 messages every few days when an important match happens. this is also based off of what i saw in the sen vs 100t game that i managed to watch live where sen looked shaky against 100t

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fair enough

Sure SEN looked shaky but they always do, I dont remember a single run theyve made where they looked stable and consistent throughout post Reykjavik. In fact I kind of consider that their brand and partially why i love supporting them so much, it feels great when the SEN doubters/haters get put in their place

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I don't think it's as bad as people think
Yes G2 are favoured heavily but that's true for G2 vs most teams this year
That being said, G2 62-38 Sen for me
N4rrate does need to lock in tho

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60-40 AT MOST imo. As long as SEN start hot i really dont see them losing this game at all, and even if they start slow as long as it doesnt drag into map 2 it should still be fine. We dont know anything about g2 frankly other than their comps, we dont even know their map pool and if its good or not. Their scrims have all been against nobodies and unknowns, G2 shouldnt be as glazed as they are right now.

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ithink 45/55

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15-20%

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If sen isn't beating g2 then na is cooked. Coz i don't think th vitality gen g gonna give a f88k about g2.

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GenG look weak tbh. I'd give g2 60/40 odds against both of those teams easily

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nah gen g gonna aim diff them if strats aren't gonna work.

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As much as I love S3xture, I don't think Gen.G aim diffs G2 but you do you man

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neither geng nor g2 aim diffs each other. their aims are on par

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I really like geng tbh, but aim doesn't matter when foxy9 seems really unflexible in general. Besides that, I'd say the weakest aimer on g2 is maybeee JonahP, and that's insane to say bc he's obviously a fragger (plus I'd say better than Yoman mechanically). Individually, the team is so ridiculously stacked this year.

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JonahP and trent just swapped places for the past 2 years, Trent used to be the aim god and Jonah was just the whatever on the team, now it seems like its gone back to normal and jonah is just one of those guys on every team and trent is looking like hes back in form

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Foxy9 is already starting to cook don’t count him out. Also yoman is not even that bad mechanically, arguably an upgrade over Lakia in that department

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gen g only look decent ngl. g2 have a pretty good chance against them if not favored against them.

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tell me you dont know anything about VCT without telling me you know nothing about VCT

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really hard to say, so i'll say 50-50, teamplay versus Tejo abuser

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1 in 3 chance they win

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if sen shuts down leaf, it is an even playing field

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It all depends on whether zekken has a masterclass or not. Sen always lock in when zekken is on fire and always seem to throw when he's not.

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Sen have plot armor

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if they play like they did in previous games, then I would say 20% chance for sen to win, but I think it's higher cuz sen has the clutch potential and I have a feeling g2 is gonna crumble

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g2 is the favorite, but sen have a chance.

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if valyn, leaf, jonahp, trent, and jawgemo all have an off day, sen can win

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so basically, if g2 turn off their monitors, sen win

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no, even then sen lose. professor p jumps across the stage and 1v5s sen

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so unless sen get john wick to fight jonahp, sen lose

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it’s still gonna be difficult
jonahp was trained by caine

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Nah the roster is just TOO stacked this year. I need the guard core to give me an international win finally PLEASEEE

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Depends a lot on if SEN can just outaim them and string together enough hero rounds to get momentum. 35 or 40% chance maybe. Even a SEN supporter I can say it's definitely not even

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unfortunately like 30/70 :(

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G2 70/30 SEN imo. i could see a world where sen wins if leaf and trent have off days though.

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35/65

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60/40 in favor of sen.

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40%

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Gonna be a banger match, could be like 40/60 or maybe even 50/50 if zekken pulls up

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Around 65/35 for G2, then again if Sen have 2 players that can drop 30 kills it can change, happened once can happen twice

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Like 3/97 (97 is g2 ofc)

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fuck you

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G2 is overrated right now. Still good, but overrated. It's loseable

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45%-55% G2. I hope SEN wins though but like what I said last year, if G2 gets a real duelist then no doubt they will be the best NA team.

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Unless all of SEN pops off, G2 wins for sure

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60/40 in favor of G2

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I will delete my account if SEN win, or even make it a close series.

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seriously tho, G2 is ahead no matter what, stronger aimer, and have more experienced igl.

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G2 looks ready to win bangkok. SEN does not. G2 has a 70% chance of winning though.

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its either a banger 3 mapper or 13-6 13-6 to g2 no inbetween

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G2 should win but there is upset potential for SEN

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its not an upset bro, wtf is wrong with the sen fans of today, we might need the Tenz stans back to bring the copium back up

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G2 look like the best team in the world imo, I don't even fw g2 but kinda feels like them losing at all is an upset rn

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THEY WENT AGAINST C9 AND LEV BRO WHAT IS THIS MAGNANIMOUS GLAZE FOR THEM

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2-1 G2. Sen pick up first map but then G2 wake up and next 2 maps are like 13-9/10

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I think if sen are in peak form they can win

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will*