you need to realize that majority of the population are stupid, youll find more people with bad or surface level takes than youll ever find those with nuanced and deep opinions

nah im just not a mindless sheep that orgasms whenever i see players that can shoot

because ppl get horny when they see players that can shoot.

t1 are straight dog man

flair checks out

vit really dont look that good bro, its just fragging, yall eu cucks be crazy for any promising team in that region

derke had 1 good split, that wasliterally it.
Also the year before that he wasnt special either, at least not as much as he used to be, it was the leo alfa show

pancada gotta be the most downplayed pro in the history of vct istg

TF yall mean meteor or flashback, tell me you only watch 1 apac team without telling me you only watch 1 apac team 💀

Forsaken, jing, davai, freeing, jemkin, Mako, kushy, Meiy, Buzz, all doing better than fucking meteor and flashback bro.

Id give top Apac rn to Mako or Meiy

Youre delusional for putting anyone above leaf rn.
Leaf (Locked in Cast Iron at 1st)
Riens
Alfa (mf carrying an entire team of grown men on his back)

HM:
Pancada gets so downplayed cause hes on smokes but hes probably the best smokes in the world rn
Derke lookin almost like hes back to peak form

Derke fell off pretty hard but imma be honest hes been looking like near prime derke on VIT

youre saying that like some of the best players in the world currently arent highschoolers

I think SEN are very obviously better than both DRX and TH rn. TH arent exactly playing spectacularly and DRX have a lot of holes but theyre not super obvious since the whole of Pacific is shit rn.
Arguably id say VIT are at the bottom of the list, they dont look amazing either especially considering the amount of glue being sniffed rn in EMEA

G2
SEN
EDG
VIT
LOUD (maybe DRX depends on how well they can keep up this play against actual good teams)

Loud 22 vs EG 23 would be a better call, FNC would get wiped by prime Loud

tf you on about this is one of the worst lists ive seen so far

yea but they never lost their games because their duelist was bad, they lost their games because theyre too reliant on the frags, perfect valorant doesnt exist. Their play has holes and theyre the kind of holes that doesnt need to be actively exploited. If G2 want to be the best in the world they need to be on a level of consistency that weve never seen before (and this is after seeing last year where they were already arguably the most consistent team in VCT history)

Imma be so for real rn, im not being biased here but in my eyes SEN were BY FAR the peak of the whole year. The way they played PERFECT utility combos and had amazing reads based on the areas of the map the opponents would play and referring back to their anti was just so much more impressive than any other team. I think maybe TH was close to that level but they were often carried by individual rounds by the players.
Out of the three teams SEN were by far with the least firepower and was still competing for the best team of the year and i think that says something really significant. Towards the end of the year we started seeing them implement the util combos and retake heavy style again and they managed to go super deep in champs right after an abysmal regionals.

Im a SEN fan but i still remember being so down on them for dropping pancada one of my favourite players for Zellsis and then seeing the perfection those fuckers were playing. I had to just shut up and watch, i remember the bombardment from the pancada haters telling me how wrong i was and seeing their madrid run confirmed that for me.

FNC 23 werent that good (this is coming from a day 1 FNC supporter)
Their competition was just so fucked cause everyone going into franchising was in complete shambles, the only competition they ever had was Loud and the only potential teams that could challenge them either had already fell off by the time they faced FNC or never faced them in teh first place.
DRX, Loud, Navi, NRG were all pretty ass in Tokyo, Lock In was a cesspool of mid teams and the only challenging match for FNC was Loud (and even then it was arguably because Boasters calling took a nosedive mid series). EG got 3-0ed being the only team to take a Fracture off FNC but still not able to challenge them on any other map, even the 2 split games for 11-13s didnt feel like FNC was in any position to lose it at any point in the games.

By the time Champs came around and teams were back in form, FNC was severely underprepared because their prior competition had poor anti strats, never managed to push FNC to any meaningful extent, and atp FNC were fumbling every round since they had nothing more than their playbook and fundamentals. Their calling wasnt anything special, their midrounding was at a lot of points HORRIBLE, the fragging was fucked because the trades werent there since they played the whole year as a default solo kind of team.

c0m never made him what he was, nor was ethan. It was specifically boostio jawg and potter. Those 3 helped to create a perfect system for the guy to completely turn off his brain and just frag

thats some extravagant glaze right there. If were talking about best teams for their time (as in how far ahead they were) id easily give it to 2022 Loud at Champs. They were by far the most dominant team with actual competitive opponents around them in the hardest champs to date (id say harder than last years since a few big teams bombed out early which made it the avg champs).

its not about shooting, its about the fact that individually Demon1 was never special. He had the perfect system around him to where he didnt have to think about anything and im not trying to take a dig at him but watch any interview from the guy and you can tell hes the brain off follow the calls kinda player.
He isnt particularly smart, hes not creative, nor is he flexible (probably because of his lack of creativity), hes just an aimer that was on a system made SPECIFICALLY for him.
If anything the only way for him to get back to his old form is to have either the players or the system around him to support his kind of baity play style

and just to be clear i dont mean to say EDG didnt deserve the win, i never said that even once. I just wouldnt give them credit for being the best team of the year nor did they reach the peaks TH SEN and GenG reached through the year.

I mean yea in a way thats what i mean, that is the reality of the situation when your opponents are all just throwing.
It was the same thing with acends champs, in a few years well look back on the EDG win and no one is gonna give them any credit cause EDG will be another 8-6th team. Its not that theyre bad, their opponents just played worse than their typical performances

yea but unlike G2 Edg heavily rely on their insane firepower to make it work whereas G2 has amazing mid rounds and reads as well as trap plays.
Im convinced that the coaches are responsible for it cause in the rounds i really dont see anything special from nobody other than hes a fragging IGL. Im not saying hes bad but he just isnt a top 5 candidate even if were talking just for this year considering he had 2 events to be measured off of and one was in a mickey mouse region

You can say that for any non english speaking player. Look at how people treat lakia for not being a fragger, hell even sacy gets insane amounts of slander.
Truth is if nobody was that good at calling they never wouldve needed to get rid of haodong

how tf do you put nobody in the top 5 igls??? They ran simple strats, id sooner give their coach a top 5 IGL spot than nobody

bro really got 10 down votes, man you gotta stop with this dumb ahh bait

Yall gotta hear me out
Origin is number 1 istg, it gets way too much hate for the recoil sound but if youre a 1 tapper (like me cough cough) this gun is sublime

then the other two are like
Champs 21
Prelude

i have finally found a man of culture, only the real ones know how fire the origin is

EX.O stinks man, shits a skin in progress man

it ruins the exclusivity of it and that means we wont be getting a new or unique champions skin for that year which might cause controversy since it would most definitely mean less sales

bro put flor at the bottom, my guy have you watched a single apeks game?

I mean thats what they said about fortnite and low and behold theres almost not a single exclusive skin anymore.
Idk what riots history is with League and their other games with battle pass or limited time/event skins but i dont assume theyd cave in making exclusive things stay that way or else no one is able to have anything special anymore. It would help a bit with buying accounts tho

ong i cant fucking handle it, all of PRX completely being oblivious and purposefully ignoring flank is the reason com is glazed as much as he is

I mean they make trailers for international tournaments. I personally wouldnt really want to watch a 1 and a half hour video by riot ngl

im not a dumbass that i cant tell when a player is hitting good shots and when its just because the opponents are moving like bots

Com was never good in the first place tho and people still glazed him. Watch all of his "crazy clips" from all the matches hes played in VCT and EVERY SINGLE CLUTCH or even clip in general is just filled with mistakes from the opponents and isnt even Com making a crazy play.
Compared to everything hes done in the past his game against Furia was genuinely impressive in terms of his decision making, shots hit, and clutches

Everytime ppl EVERYTIME. We know they always lose the first match but somehow EVERY SINGLE TIME yall be doubting

3 sentinels is kind of a new meta brought up by M80

oh makes sense honestly. I was gonna ask why do we have to wait AAAAGESS for our matches after watching a few games and chinas already done AND they started first

truly a masterclass 🙌

100T arent all that tho, theyre good but the only reason they did so well against sen map 1 was the insanely lucky rounds and sen not having any momentum with their kills or rounds (also on bind to an extent in the early rounds).
Theyre heavily momentum based and FNS on a good day eats up teams like that for breakfast

the support probably wasnt what it was like on AE, on AE he was their star player and all support went towards helping him, similar to how forsaken was supported when he was on neon.
On boom there were bigger fish and so berserx couldnt take up all the resources for himself, he needed to learn to be self sufficient and honestly thats one of the hardest things to do as an entry duelist. Thats why players like aspas and jawgemo are absolute world class players

Som is easily top 3 smokes itw now that tenz is gone and karon has been slowing down on this new geng, could even be argued to be top 1 cause i dont know any other smokes players that have the potential like he does, Pancada has been having horrible luck with his team, Marved isnt even playing, Mako fell off hard, bang is good but hasnt been the world class kind of player in a while.

Verno has the potential he said, not that verno is anywhere close to what riens was last year. Either way tho riens was hella overrated, I was rooting for the guy cause i love turks but the glaze everyone was giving him was crazy.

FNS has been fragging more this season that he ever has been. He literally had a match mvp game on the 1 map that they beat rapid lofi on in the first game. THAT NEVER HAPPENED BEFORE, FNS looks actually really comfortable aiming and taking 1v1s when hes feeling it now

as a FNC fan imma just say that year was literally a smurf year. The whole year saw every single prominent team fall to absolute shit even the ones that attended Lock In and reached top 4 bowed out in the first 2 games of tokyo and one of them couldnt even win 1 game in groups.
People give FNC so much credit for that year but in reality every other team was just suffering from the start of franchising. You saw how poorly their fundamentals crumbled when actually challenged during champs and they couldnt fall back on anything because their whole thing was that they had world class players that all just could win multiple gunfights each round

Im gonna put this here cause i dont want my post to get buried

This team has 1 of the same players and staff that the previous NRG had. Why are you comparing the two as if theyd be the same team at all? Som is FAR better a controller than Marved has been recently in both frags and util timings, FNS is a world class caller thats attended almost every VCT international event that he was in the running for even though his stats are almost always subpar, Ethan is a world class initiator and was arguably the best player of 2023 and now he doesnt have to be held down by IGLing, Verno is and has been a major prospect ever since he started in T2, Mada is an alright duelist but hes been shining a lot more than his prior teams now that hes under FNS.

Unless you just havent been made aware of any of the changes this season then idk why youd ask such a dumb question

idk, zander was kinda absent the whole MIBR game and p much every game in the off season. Bang was always consistently a good player on 100T and he anchors a lot better than zander

Im genuinely confused as to why people were so high on MIBR, these guys genuinely look horrendous, Ive never seen Aspas play on such a bad roster that his performance tanked this hard

From day 1 hearing the rookies he was bringing in i felt like it would be clear theyd at most rise up over the season to be mid table but ppl were rating them like theyd be top masters contenders

RIOT IS DESTROYING CHALLENGERS
in all honesty i doubt anyone wouldve wanted the league anyway apart from soop

why the fuck would riot make a decision as dumb as partnering with SOOP???