Wanna hear u thoughts on this

There are no right answers nor are there wrong answers. Please do not get into politics or discriminate against anyone. Thanks

First, what do you usually call clove when u give callouts. She/her or they/them?
Second, is it important to respect their pronounces even tho they are "just" a "video game" character
Last, do you support video games bringing in LGBTQ elements into their game?

These questions does not hint towards anything or any opinions before someone freaks out

I use they

yes I respect it

Idgaf if companies do add LGTBQ elements tbh

the character is nonbinary, and the voice actor is nonbinary
you should respect both

1. i call out agents by their name
2. you can if you want but you shouldnt be a dick about it to others
   3.there is nothing inherently wrong with it but if the lgbt element is to sexualize and pander to any crowd i think that is bad

just say clove it's simple

I_LOVE_LESS [#3]

the character is nonbinary, and the voice actor is nonbinary
you should respect both

wow I didnt even know that

bronzil_enjoyer [#5]

just say clove it's simple

Am i the onlyone to give callouts like
Vipers on 4x 10. Shes going on site
Phoenix is ulting, he was heaven
Clove is ulting, they were in the smoke

haven't played pretty much at all since their launch but for the first couple of days I think I said like

Clove 70% of the time, she 15% of the time and they're 15% of the time

H3ENnZ [#7]

Am i the onlyone to give callouts like
Vipers on 4x 10. Shes going on site
Phoenix is ulting, he was heaven
Clove is ulting, they were in the smoke

idk no one comms in sg server

1. I say clove
2. yea I respect it
3. I don't mind video games having lgbtq elements in it

1. I use the word чел/тип (which means guy) which is gender neutral anyways
2. I personally don't think so, if I had a person tell me their pronouns, I would respect them, as for the game character, I believe it doesn't matter as much
3. I support it if it makes sense, same for every minority. I liked CJ from GTA, I liked Lee from The Walking Dead, I liked Ellie from the Last of Us. They didn't feel forced, it wasn't overwatch's sudden ''yeah soldier 76 is gay now'', it was a part of the minority which made sense for the character

1. I usally say any agents name instead of he/her
2. In general yes but VAL is diff because the person playing should come first-if the person playing raze is a guy you would say he even though raze is girll
3. Yes because it is realistic. If you take a random group of 25 ppl a couple of them are bound to be lgbtq thats just how statistic work BUT this only works if the lgbtq is not the central part of the character-like a val character who happens to be lgbtq vs a lgbtq character who happen to be in val.

H3ENnZ [#7]

Am i the onlyone to give callouts like
Vipers on 4x 10. Shes going on site
Phoenix is ulting, he was heaven
Clove is ulting, they were in the smoke

i will use they, but also if this is a concern to you then it means you're shit at comming, because the correct way to comm would be to always list the agents you're comming at

ie. viper pheonix pushed up, sova back main
clove ulted from 410, run away
raze has ult and was last seen window

The people who say "It's just video game characters who cares, clove is a she ok look at the pink" are Xayah/Rakan mains who wouldn't misgender Hitler.

1. i call by name but if the guy is last alive i use he for everyone like everyone says he for jett but when its clove its a big problem now
2. i dont rly care tbh its js a video game character + i have my own worldviews
3. nah i dont support but im not against it

1. clove
2. no
3. unneeded

Tadpole3 [#14]

The people who say "It's just video game characters who cares, clove is a she ok look at the pink" are Xayah/Rakan mains who wouldn't misgender Hitler.

it's just a video game character which doesn't even exist irl lil bro get out of delusion 😭

in latam absolutely everyone calls clove with femenine pronouns, including me, since gender neutral pronouns for people in spanish don't actually exist in the language itself

1. clove or she for callouts, if im speaking about clove while not mid match I say they
2. its a character who cares
3. i dont care but I gotta say no for clove specifically cuz its just for profit

1. I use character names as its a better callout anyways
2. Not particularly. Lore for a character is not widely known. tbh this clove information is really the only lore I know and that's because its talked about on vlr.
3. its fine even if the company is doing it for profit. That's what companies do and we should expect that from them. Also, fine because its normal

she.

1.) I always use the agent name
2.) mmm, not really, I only find it important if someone feels represented by clove, then you should be using them. so if you are just fucking around with your friends, dont need to use them. but if you are in a random lobby with people who potentially feel represented by clove then I believe you should be using them
3.) Yes, but they should be done well, it shouldnt feel forced and their identity shouldnt be "the lgbtq character" it should be like clove who besides being nonbinary is also kinda a nerd, liking dnd. A childish character who doesnt use formal language and can be quite upfront in her voicelines. and she has the whole life and death motif

I say clove

i personally think that some of the representation in games feels forced

I just call Clove Clove most of the time
Its not that important
I don't care that much but sometimes it seems forced.

I actually did lose a game because in a 2v2 someone called 'they're in hookah', when one was in garden

So imma be using she for that reason and for the obvious reason that it's clearly a girl

'bbbut the devs said its not a girl and non-binary!!!'

Looks like a girl, sounds like a girl, voiced by a female, im using she.

and yeah guess what I also call Kayo a he instead of 'it' despite him being a robot, for the same reasons.

Sue me

I_LOVE_LESS [#3]

the character is nonbinary, and the voice actor is nonbinary
you should respect both

ive always been very respectful to her

shes op in game too honestly i should play her more

AstroGalaxy [#2]

I use they

yes I respect it

Idgaf if companies do add LGTBQ elements tbh

ya igaf if a character likes dick as long as it doesnt mess with the story/ premise of the game

1. I use they if I remember, she otherwise. Hell sometimes I'll even use he (for any agent tbh, to me it's comparable to saying 'hey guys' which is technically gendered, but people understand it to be neutral with the context)

2. I think there's a certain extent to it. If someone doesn't use them I don't think it's worth it to try and correct them, imo it's not that deep, telling someone will result in (best case scenario) them remembering once or twice and just forgetting and going back to she. (This obviously is different for real people). Basically the people who do care will call them them and the people who don't won't.

3. I don't support it but I'm not necessarily against it either. I'd say I'm neutral.

edit to 3., what z12 said above actually caught my eye, I wanted to add: if it's overly sexualised then I'd say I'm definitely against it, otherwise my opinion is still the same.

Yuh_aye [#26]

I actually did lose a game because in a 2v2 someone called 'they're in hookah', when one was in garden

So imma be using she for that reason and for the obvious reason that it's clearly a girl

'bbbut the devs said its not a girl and non-binary!!!'

Looks like a girl, sounds like a girl, voiced by a female, im using she.

and yeah guess what I also call Kayo a he instead of 'it' despite him being a robot, for the same reasons.

Sue me

ur so sigma i wish i could be as cool as you 😩😩🤤

Idk I don't use them ever
Idk I don't use them ever
Couldn't care less tbh

1 they if i remember
2 it really doesn’t matter it’s pixels on the screen and if someone calls clove she in a callout im going to assume it’s an accident/they don’t even know and move on but if you misgender an imaginary person on purpose your intentions are the same and ur still a weirdo
3 idrc i dont know why riot made the most girlypop feminine butterflies and flowers character of all time and made that one nonbinary feels like they’re doing it on purpose to start shit tbh

I do say "Clove is low or She's low" but that is more of an unintentional pressure callout if that makes sense

1. I don't comm much, but I'd probably just say clove
2. Yes
3. Yes

clove and she

1. For every agent i say "he's". Reyna, Jett, brim, clove. I comm in numbers like "last one' or "two main" or just "he's long'
2. I try not to bring it into a space where its kinda just having fun. If you're in a ranked game, you get lost in the moment so I don't think it should be seen as disrespectful if someone doesn't
3. Yes

1. No,
2. i dont believe in em,
   3. no it seems like a publicity stunt and is total bs.

giving callouts w pronouns is just kind of useless, give callouts w agent name instead

i say she when calling out in game, and no idgaf its a video game character

I normally say clove but if I’m referring to the character I say they.

I just called their name like Clove raze sova. No need for he/she/they etc

Personally I wouldn't care the pronouns for a video game character

For last question, i prefer not to speak

1. it doesnt matter the agent, i'll even call a Jett he sometimes
2. it's a fictional character, it's not that deep
3. as a minority myself i think representation is important, so regardless of my personal opinion i would be a hypocrite if i said no to this

Dybala21 [#41]

I just called their name like Clove raze sova. No need for he/she/they etc

Personally I wouldn't care the pronouns for a video game character

For last question, i prefer not to speak

Ur not going to get canceled lol someone above u said something more fucked up

1 - I usually call them by their names

2 - I don't think it is necessary

3 - I do not mind, if it is added ok and if it is not added I am ok too

Clove they/them if I have to use pronouns
No as they're fictional but like its not that hard
I truly don't care but when homophobes care then I have to because erasure is worse than cringe

1. She/her
2. I think the character's name should be pronounced correctly, but everyone can pronounce his name differently
3. I don't like this

Imma be real. I do not think about pronouns when I am fighting someone in valorant and have no idea if I call them she/her or they/them/their

Penqu1N [#47]

Imma be real. I do not think about pronouns when I am fighting someone in valorant and have no idea if I call them she/her or they/them/their

Same and it shouldn't really matter what you call clove as long as you give the information to your team.

deadass forgot that Clove was a they until this was brought up, was calling them a she for a while ngl