glacier peaked in 1912, idk if he's gonna be all that good after so long being kinda mid

this is a mistake. this guy has been so dedicated and passionate for so long for this team, anyone who picks him up will see a measurable difference in quality in their team. W strong

p00p00

I loved dressrosa because i read the entire thing, except for 2 arcs my friends told me to watch which were enies lobby and marineford (and the end of wano), and then i went back and rewatched some arcs i loved but wanted to see animated through one pace (like sabaody, punk hazard, dressrosa, wano, egghead)
Tbh i think its the best way to experience one piece because watching all of it is so fkin slow

2026 and people still don't know the concept of hidden mmr

28-3

Cole tried to smoke dot and then immediately backed the fuck off dawg what are you on about

and yeah he fs smokes drake lyrically

g2 was the 7th seed that lost to Los Ratones, a streamer team (with 2 old head pros) that made it to tier 1 for a bit before disbanding

geng had not dropped a series, much less 2 games to a single team this year, and then they lose to the 2nd worst regions 7th seed going into the playoffs.
not dfm 2023, but like if lock in eg beat fnc 2023 in prime form

Bump

I mean he was always right it just got blown up too quickly by the dumbass who started yapping on his twitch stream and it went from dubious proof that was still getting collected into having to post stuff too quickly and it becomes just various proof that something was wrong but nothing provable

edg (other than chichoo) was hot ass at Bangkok the fact they made it to third speaks more about the quality of the event than the level of the team

icy was top 3

and this is why im so happy ur not gming any team i like

lets make a spray for nats igling! oh wait it already exists
https://imgur.com/a/ijR68Dr

trent ur alt isnt slick

petition to put you in femboy jail with kirya until you develop as a person

Iron brain and iron hands 🥀

bro this is such a dumbass slander name

At least choose something like pauper rex or some shit that actually works with the name

Governor

lockin is just not the same type of tournament as any other vct sanctioned event, so its not fair to place it in the same regard as a masters that everyone had to go through a regional stage to qualify to, and then a double elim bracket to prove they were worthy of a trophy

also, 2023 teams were so fucking bad, the start of franchising had at least half of the league if not more as just objectively worse teams than the 2022 circuit had, which is why i discredit it compared to masters 1s of today

bro knows ball about the n1cf rebrand holyyy

marteen alone clears every team in america not named furia nrg g2 or mibr

I have a 1660 super and i run 240 fps on val consistently

Meta worked well when it wasnt so set hit - play retake in a specific order and obvious flow to the round tbh
Igls around the world have just progressed the game past the point where you can get away with decent macro and crazy good raw aim + chinas igls have all also regressed/have terrible fundamentals

ari "vctscrims" is saying liquid has no good aspects I think that means something about your poverty org

was

Leaf yay are good aimers but fat

Skuba mada are good aimers but skinny

However,
Once skinny people who turn fat have worse aim after like marved

bump

How are people like the guys comparing kc to this team allowed to exist and breathe the same air as me

ball knowledge but alas aspas at champs will beat us
All good 100t can come third mibr goes to finals

Sad to see you grasp at straws :(

this is gonna be peak

bumjyf0shy lost to edg in a finals btw !!!

son

make it cuh

Autumn is the problem cb cannot be this retarded without a coach in his ear telling him its the right play to make every time

If he is doing ts on his own then idek what to say

autumn is the problem, there's no way a player can be stupid enough to permanently run it down like cb did without their coach telling them its the right thing to do. Almost ruined T1 last year and he will ruin edg this year

if AG gets first pick and picks T1 or G2 its a 30-40% chance

already do bud but ty <3

aint u got a team to support
I turned ts game off because I got bored but why tf aren't u watching a stomp

expecting vlr to have an attention span beyond the length of a TikTok audio was my mistake

first off, I know they've brought a lot of viewers to the scene, especially the 3 game champs run of Sen-Lev-TH where they played incredible, and that China as a fanbase grew exponentially from that run, but I think edg (outside of the Champs 3 game streak), has been really bad for the Chinese region competitively. Them being just good enough to bar other Chinese teams from reaching international events, but not having any consistency in success, nor progress in their team play or util/strats is just gatekeeping other Chinese teams/players to have the experience to show up on the international stage and have success.

Let's look back at EDG and see when they were actually performing well and why they did, and they really only have 2 events where the field and them are both good, in Champs 2024 and Masters Bangkok. In Champs 2024, I think it's ok to acknowledge that EDG deserved the win 100%, but also that the win had a lot more luck as a factor than other international win runs, in how easy their path up until they played Sen was. Then, they obviously all played incredible, and Chichoo/KK's skill level peaked at the perfect time to get them a trophy. Alongside this, they also were the first people to understand how good neon was/actually utilize it correctly, another aspect of the game that was perfectly set up for them, as normally when teams find this type of unique kink in the meta, it's much more of a slower pace discovery in utility, like initiators being used correctly, or smokes being used in a unique way, and it's not setting up a team that already is stylistically a run-it-down type team to enable that more (exception is obviously this year/2025 champs with the waylay yoru, but that's not a normal trend compared to 2024/3/2/1). Their run was a mix of a lot of factors setting them up perfectly to pounce on this chance of winning a trophy, and they hit the individual form to do it and were ahead of every other team because of their style working in their favor.

In Bangkok, if we are being real, it's not that they as a team were some behemoth of utility and cohesion, it's that Chichoo was putting up the greatest numbers of all time at any international ever until that last playoff match when he finally cooled off and then they actually lost. Also, they got top 3 in an 8 team international, which already has an asterisk upon it. But again, EDG's success didn't come from something that can be replicated in a new direction of using utility, or their team play like G2 being so cohesive that they don't lose, it just comes down to individual form being better, and then they win.

Let's contrast this to the only other Chinese run that was substantial, in Wolves. Yes, Spring played like a demon, but you're going to have those types of players do that in a top 3 run to an international in a 12 team event where you start from the Swiss stage. The other biggest thing about Wolves was that they were actually really good with their util, and their team play and the way they played off of each other + IGLing was actually really good fundamentally, which is something we really didn't see from EDG outside of nobody out calling people at the end of champs for a couple of matches. I think this is also true of other Chinese teams like XLG, where yes, obviously happywei this year and Rarga last year as well as this year were incredible, but they got to their 1 seed at Toronto from their util usage, and their initiator play with Rarga and that communication being on the exact same page, letting Rarga go wild. These are things that CAN be replicated with more practice, and CAN lead to a growth in level overall, because you're not just relying on your aim being better than the rest of your region. These types of teams going to internationals and getting the experience to come back with to increase their level is exactly what a region that seems to be behind everyone else needs, and its how we get China from going to a region that can "make runs" to a region that will consistently perform.

This is why I think EDG being good is ruining the Chinese region, not because their fame and popularity is bad, but because them being aim-differs and not actually having to learn to innovate or think about the game at a higher level leads to complacency in the region, and keeps the rest of them down. A rising tide lifts all boats, but when the tide is being held down by EDG, the boats will inevitably stay at the same level. Hopefully EDG drops Autumn (as a T1 fan, I can tell you he doesn't know SHIT), and actually tries to move past just using Chichoo and KK's aim to carry them through games, because otherwise China will never become a serious region.

why tf does ur flair exist

Link an event in the past 2 years where less went to an international, I'll wait

insane to slander on Aris name for no reason

"drawing picks the right way would look like my region having the easiest path to playoffs and the teams I think are good and will make my region suffer should have to play each other"

hades why tf are you larping as ely

shut the FUCK up

good thing our system will allow them to try to qualify for champs now!
as long as teams don't poach them, but I think there's a much better incentive to stay in tier 2 for now rather than joining a mid-bad t1 team to show yourself off because of the way the system works

yeah but cryo and zekken also played together and cryo > tenz which was much more impressive

we should all never forget dephh for being so bad that he managed to make that team mid at internationals