NA is insane man

I agree PRX would win, but then again, PRX in their current form is just a league of their own (pls don't be a jinx). TH is still good though, and could be a dark horse at Shanghai.

I'm ngl, TH look good.

You don't realize he's just bringing the energy. He's actually doing so much to keep the vibes up.

I agree about the not being able to send the top 3 teams if they come through the same group, but at the same time I disagree that both clearly deserve to go.

But every format is going to have problems though. No matter what riot chooses to do, there's always something that could make it more difficult for a team. It sucks for heretics, having roster issues, but at the same time, Loud had problems and still made playoffs. TH is good enough to win against NAVI. Excuses don't cut it for the best teams.

It's not up to chance though, it's more or less about how well you do. Lower bracket is better, but also, just win the game.

Nah you just suck at making it. Idk when tf I said anything about riot trying to predict who's better.

I'm not a fan of this format to be clear, but at the same time, the game is the game. Everyone is playing the format too, and imo, Talon is the only real loser of this format.

No, I just meant that if your argument it that TH got unlucky with roster stuff, how is riot supposed to be able to predict that stuff is going to happen. Also, how much it's going to affect the results of that team.

Ok and? Is riot supposed to see the future and know this stuff?

It's not even an act, the Demon1 thing was out of line, but this is a legit point.

And they made Madrid with that sub. TH was still good with patitek, you can't really use that argument imo

TH lost to the two teams in the other group who didn't make playoffs, like just win lol.

Yeah, Kru's roster move was good, but C9's I'm not convinced yet.

You didn't specify that, but tbf, there haven't been that many roster moves during that time though.

SEN getting johnqt and zelllsis gotta be up there, also 100T getting eeiu and Boostio.

100T cooking rn

Yeah, but in practice rosters on paper don't matter quite as much.

Yeah...pls do not follow my lead whatsoever. What I said yesterday was out of line. PRX fans are cool, just not me lol.

Bruh...Thanks for the link

Because they are burnout, but my point is that it's a natural response to the amount they've played recently. Also, that even being burnout they are still a lot better than NRG, mostly because NRG isn't good.

Which thread?

But there was no irresponsibility, and there is a decent gap imo.

I never said it wasn't their fault though, and yeah it is an excuse. Not all excuses are bad though, sometimes there are valid excuses. Idk why you're so against the idea that SEN's play is partially a result of them being tired, but it's true no matter how you spin it.

It doesn't mean that the losses go away or something, but it's there to explain why they're playing so badly at the moment.

You might be forgetting that the two import rule only applies to ascension. In franchising, you get one import, which means this team can't exist, except theoretically.

fax, although I might not have been helping the fanbase with some shit I've said on this site recently.

I'm ngl, EDG has pretty good fans.

This might be the funniest outcome possible

Obviously, intensity does matter, but doing something at even a somewhat high intensity is going to cause burnout eventually. Also, I didn't ask for an anecdote, and it has no relevance to this discussion whatsoever. It's two completely different things we're talking about.

Legit TenZ said that they might be suffering from small burnout, pls stfu.

You know SEN is not the only team that has and will suffer from burnout? Also, it's more so the longevity than the intensity.

Bruh, do people not get that teams still might be practicing in the offseason, especially if you lock your roster early?

Wdym break? They were prepping for kickoff, and doing more practice throughout most of that two months I'd imagine.

How is it not? They won Madrid, in part, because of how much time they spent in the offseason practicing and playing. It's a perfectly valid argument.

Oh yeah, I still do that some, but just not a lot of the other stuff.

From grinding in the offseason, to playing almost most number of games they could to win Madrid, to having a short break after coming back.

Ok and? Have you seen how bad NRG is? SEN is just suffering from burnout, but they're still a good team.

In what league is this team playing with the current import rules?

He probably still wants to compete, he just wants to have control over what the roster he plays with, is.

Dumbass team dropping Rb and Zest, they had the formula for a top 5 team every year and decided to get rid of it for no reason.

Nah SEN is way clear of NRG, even in their current form.

Idk how you'd require comms though, there's no good way to assess whether someone is comming or not.

I barely comm in comp. I can't be bothered to try to coordinate shit. Who tf needs to comm in low rank, it's just a game of who can aim diff anyway. If you're in high elo though, that sucks fs.

Deserved for dropping Rb and Zest

ShitRG Fan LMAO

Ironic coming from an NRG fan, yall the kings of flopping.

Based, if true.

Stop playing the fucking victim card You trash, talk you deserve it back. You deserved every last thing said to you.

Yeah ok, tell yourself that to make you feel better, since your supposed superteam is dogshit. I'm chilling since PRX made Shanghai.

I hope TH get destroyed in this game...NAVI pls.