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Rey55

I like him but does bro ever stop complaining? MY GOD

Can't stop complaining about Abyss. Like it's a bad map, we get it but you are also playing ranked with no DELAY whatsoever, with minimap fully UNCOVERED. Like what do you expect? They are running triple fakes on you with perfect flank timings through mid my guy. That's not on the map being bad. you were going to lose even if it was the greatest map design in FPS history.
Also, Abyss is not as bad as he says, I know this not because I know a lot about maps but because know tenz. When breeze came out he used to absolutely hate it. "ooo this is such a ratty map, everyone just lurks blah blah blah" then he played few officials and found out that you can just run around and take aim fights so he changed his mind to "It's only bad in ranked but fine in pro play". Same with Icebox and Split. Once, he and his team figured out how to play those maps he stopped complaining about them. Split used to be his absolute most hated map with prev SEN but xset always had a good understanding of the map and when he learned how to play on split it became one of his most favorite maps. I can guarantee you the same thing would have happened with Abyss if he stuck around but all good.

Then he complains about the gunplay being shit and inconsistent. Like bro valorant has never been about pure gunplay. There are so many variables that make gun fights massively lopsided in valorant. The pacing of the game due to having util, the randomness and on top of that ranked being ranked. You can't 1v9, not even primmie 1v9s in ranked. He and most other pros usually have a duo, a delay and covers the map to reduce randomness and unpredictability and even then they lose. And that's fine. You changing your sens and mouse 15 times a day also contributes to having inconsistent gun fights btw. Just put on a delay, cover your fkin map, STOP being stubborn, no one learns anything from the minimap because your viewers don't even look at it I promise, your YT videos are a combination of cut short clips so the context of the minimap gets lost anyway. Just cover the damn thing, have a duo, have a good experience so your viewers can have a good time as well OR don't do any of that and just run it down and STOP caring about losing so much. You have nothing to prove, just lose those fkin ranked games in peace. This constant malding is not good for you and bad influence on your young viewers.

Okay I will stop the rant now. I genuinely think this guy just loves to complain. kyedae said it too, he always needs something to complain about.
scenario 1: TenZ why don't you play true stretched? You love it so much so, why don't you play it? tenz- it looks bad on stream. viewers- but we don't care.
scenario 2: tenz why are you still switching your mouse and senz? tenz- I am testing something. viewers- you have been testing for last 4 years!
scenario 3: tenz put on a delay. tenz-no it's bad for chat interaction. tenz teammates- bro can you cover your map at least? tenz- nah my viewers are learning from the minimap, they are going to become the next FNS by watching me run it down Haven A short with a Reyna lear and just aim diff them. tenz viewers- !sens
That's all that happens in his stream and then he switches to variety and it's a considerably better experience but then he loses half his viewers so I guess it's not worth it for him in the long run since growing his stream is his primary objective now.
I knew the moment he retired that he would be absolutely insufferable playing ranked and playing variety is just not a good idea for him at this stage. TenZ isn't xQc or Caedral who have unique personalities that people gravitate towards even if they are not playing the game that they primarily subscribed for and I don't know who in his camp convinced him that he was. It's perfectly fine to be a normal dude who is just good at the game but at the same time it makes his decision about retiring so weird. Like people don't watch him because he is a good streamer but they watch him because he is good at the game. People have that perception that he is a god tier valorant player but when he retired, that god tier val player appeal just went away. That's why he was great as a pro+ streamer but as a sole valorant streamer he just isn't fun. Also, it's not easy to be fun as a valorant streamer because ranked is just bullshit. That's why you see all the valo streamers pursue some sort of gimmicks to keep their viewers entertained. Yoru, sage one tricks, judge abusers etc. Full time valo streamer is just pure brainrot and if you do variety you lose all your viewers. That's why I don't buy the argument that val pros should retire just cz their stream is popping. Look at shahz, dapr, wardell, hiko etc. people won't watch you if they don't see you as a GOD anymore and they won't stick around to watch you play random games if you don't have the personality to keep them hooked. Just stick to playing pro man that's what you are good at and valorant pro money is pretty good. Grass is always greener on the other side. TenZ ruined his perfectly fine career, wasting his talent and foregoing his fanbase and sanity pursuing money in streaming so other top pros learn a lesson from this. Pursue full time streaming only when you are washed and have no job offers.

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gamergirl
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your parents walked in on you typing this and sighed

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Prasinos
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I am a yapper, but my god, i promise you, that my explanations of how Itamarati (Diplomatic Brazillian association) works and how geopolitics in general works, is shorter than this guy yapping about Tenz.

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catNmouse
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allat

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gold2peak
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Tenz literally retired after an ass whooping heretics gave to him on abyss. It's the ptsd kicking in

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CanadianLegend
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TenZ can also look at two trophies that he won to which Heretics? Can’t say much…

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welikefortniteandvalorant
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plumber tournament and mickey mouse trophy

congratulations!!

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gold2peak
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Flexing 2021 trophies is wild man heretics players weren't even born back thrn

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PamelaChu
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U don't remember NieSow, they won with him, what a legend.

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envyz
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trophies?

#38
Harapan845
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please stop

#42
Ha4dy
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no trophies, no opinion

#43
Crypto_816
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Tenz has 2 trophies... Heretics has 2 finals losses.

#44
gold2peak
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Flair check

#45
Crypto_816
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flair check

#51
BairyHalls
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Intelligent thoughts have always followed you, but you were always faster

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Crypto_816
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doesnt change the fact that TH were in the finals thrice and choked and SEN won every finals they were in.
Also I have never compared PRX and SEN.

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Dhrom49
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flair

#61
Disastered
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the zekken right click that lost them that map :sob:

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kIOMA
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HOLY YAPPINGTON

#6
ionlyHave1Zuni
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Theres no way you care this much

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Hyssopus1
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Long story short, stop losing your time watching that fraud.

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Frost_0009
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womp womp

#9
Zeron
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THATS A LOTTA YAP

#10
Average_VCT_fan
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Just ignore him, just let him figure it out himself

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Rey55
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He is too childish to figure that out himself. people around him needs to guide him.

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Shizzle
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buddy im tired of complaining myself he does it for me

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brams6661
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You made some solid points! I get the frustration. It does seem like TenZ has a habit of venting a bit too much, especially when it comes to maps and game mechanics. And yeah, switching sensitivities and equipment constantly, refusing to cover his map, or add a stream delay, and then blaming the game or maps can get tiresome. He definitely has a history of hating new maps until he figures them out, like you said.

It’s tough seeing someone with so much talent struggle to find his groove post-retirement. I think part of it comes down to the identity crisis a lot of these pro players face when they try to transition into full-time streaming. Being a top-tier player doesn’t always translate into being an entertaining full-time streamer. Viewers initially show up for the skill, but if you’re not competing or dominating like before, maintaining that viewership is hard, especially in Valorant where ranked can be a grindy and unsatisfying experience.

He probably needs to make a choice: either stop caring so much about ranked and just enjoy playing for fun, or lean into streaming in a way that’s less about showing off skill and more about engaging his community differently. But yeah, it’s a weird spot for him right now, and you’re right that other pros should be cautious about making that same leap. Being an ex-pro doesn’t automatically make you a great streamer—there’s a different skill set required to keep people entertained consistently.

And lol @ the scenarios you mentioned. Feels like chat always wants to help him with suggestions, and he has an excuse every time! Hopefully, he finds some balance or peace with whatever he decides to do next, because watching him mald every stream is not it.

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Gre4t
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ChatGPT ahh

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Pinkdice
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I don’t watch his stream because he’s boring but this is so true.. if you’re boring please stick to pro play 🙏
Johnqt you might be boring but you’re handsome.. you’ll always be famous ❤️

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malT-T
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REALLL OMGGG

#14
ZANEy
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damn more complain than tenz right there

#15
akimb0_
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the time you spent writing this walltext wouldve been more fruitful if you had studied for something useful to your life

#20
Rey55
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Studying is overrated. None of the GOAT billionaires finished college

#32
LordItachi
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Both Elon and Bezos did tho what you on about. Also all of Paypal Mafia did graduate college most of them are billionaires.

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Harapan845
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the GOAT billionaires are prob like andrew tate or smth

#53
akimb0_
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but youre not smart to become one, go study

#16
LordItachi
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Rent Free.

#17
LimeScar
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this is what AI said in response
I totally get where you're coming from. TenZ is an insane player, no doubt, but it does feel like he's constantly finding something to complain about, especially when it comes to Abyss. The map might not be perfect, but it's not like the games are unwinnable just because of it. As you said, these teams running triple fakes and nailing flank timings aren’t about the map design—it’s about being outplayed in that specific moment.

And yeah, Valorant’s gunplay has always had variables beyond aim, like utility usage and game pacing, so expecting it to be purely about gunplay is unrealistic. The constant switching of sens and mouse also doesn’t help, and it’s almost like he’s contributing to the inconsistency himself.

I agree with you about the streaming side too. TenZ’s appeal was his skill as a pro, and that’s why people tuned in. The whole streaming thing doesn’t work the same if people don’t see you dominating in the game anymore. I don't know why he doesn't just cover his minimap or put on a delay to minimize frustration for himself and his team. And yeah, switching to variety might feel more relaxed, but it comes with its own set of challenges, like maintaining viewership.

At the end of the day, TenZ was a god in the pro scene, and it’s tough to see him transitioning to full-time streaming when that doesn't seem to be where his true strengths lie. You make a good point about how other pros should be careful about retiring just because streaming is tempting—pro money and competition are still huge. Let’s hope other players take note and don’t make the same mistake.

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x_knowitall39_x
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"ok I will stop the rant now" continues to rant

#19
SaltyMcNulty
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scenario 3: tenz put on a delay. tenz-no it's bad for chat interaction. tenz teammates- bro can you cover your map at least? tenz- nah my viewers are learning from the minimap, they are going to become the next FNS by watching me run it down Haven A short with a Reyna lear and just aim diff them. tenz viewers- !sens

This had me in a chokehold BAHAHAHAHA

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envyz
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has to be bait LOL

#22
Hobbit
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king of yapington

#23
reaper_rega08
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It's not only Tenz it's almost every Sen player complaining like kids. Zekken and Zellsis are just like Tenz.

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Aminbg02
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i aint reading allat

#29
yossyoss
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since when complain is bad? lol
Everyone is allowed an opinion, even you. Not everyone thinks like you.

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cameran
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You made some solid points! I get the frustration. It does seem like TenZ has a habit of venting a bit too much, especially when it comes to maps and game mechanics. And yeah, switching sensitivities and equipment constantly, refusing to cover his map, or add a stream delay, and then blaming the game or maps can get tiresome. He definitely has a history of hating new maps until he figures them out, like you said.

It’s tough seeing someone with so much talent struggle to find his groove post-retirement. I think part of it comes down to the identity crisis a lot of these pro players face when they try to transition into full-time streaming. Being a top-tier player doesn’t always translate into being an entertaining full-time streamer. Viewers initially show up for the skill, but if you’re not competing or dominating like before, maintaining that viewership is hard, especially in Valorant where ranked can be a grindy and unsatisfying experience.

He probably needs to make a choice: either stop caring so much about ranked and just enjoy playing for fun, or lean into streaming in a way that’s less about showing off skill and more about engaging his community differently. But yeah, it’s a weird spot for him right now, and you’re right that other pros should be cautious about making that same leap. Being an ex-pro doesn’t automatically make you a great streamer—there’s a different skill set required to keep people entertained consistently.

And lol @ the scenarios you mentioned. Feels like chat always wants to help him with suggestions, and he has an excuse every time! Hopefully, he finds some balance or peace with whatever he decides to do next, because watching him mald every stream is not it.

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wildlord007
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i didnt even write this much in my final year project holy crap

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JukeSidewalker
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You're right and this is why guys like s0m is doing so well on twitch with little to no success competitively, yet. It's a stark contrast between the two despite both being good players.

I'm very curious to see how tenz stream do once he's irrelevant from valorant. I highly doubt he will be like shroud but more like stewie2k (1k viewers and always upset).

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Rey55
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his streams are doing much better than s0m tbh. s0m is grinder for sure but he doesn't have too much of a streamer personality either. Ardiis and FNS have better streamer personality than him.

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dort
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idk how tenz still gets so many viewers tbh

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SaltyMcNulty
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tenz put on a delay. tenz-no it's bad for chat interaction. tenz teammates- bro can you cover your map at least? tenz- nah my viewers are learning from the minimap, they are going to become the next FNS by watching me run it down Haven A short with a Reyna lear and just aim diff them. tenz viewers- !sens

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ballsinyojaws
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oh my fucking god, I agree with you but you wrote a whole ass essay LOL

#41
H3ENnZ
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It is annoying how he complains but goddamn abyss is kinda shit

#47
HeIsTet
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I mean if Im considered one of the best vct players with 2 trophies now retired, I would complain too type shit. Besides I dont think people watch TenZ because of his personality but because of his gameplay. Its nice to watch good gameplay of val.

#48
aquaa018
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do you ever stop complaining ABOUT tenz ?

#58
Rey55
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wdym I almost never complain about tenz

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FrostTree187
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Honestly I'm impressed at the effort you put into this. I read through the essay and then realized that I don't watch Tenz so I can't judge him based on a vlr post. But if the level of complaining is anywhere near the amount you said it to be, then I agree that it might be annoying to watch.

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twoFOUR
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Why is tenz even on your radar papi

#59
tOnzLov3r
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You need to call 911 dude. Domestic violence is fucking up your mind

#60
sameer40
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all you had to do is type is that you think tenz has a brainworm and not this slop

#62
eric_5008
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Honestly next level of dedication to care that much. If that isn't written with AI, please you need help.

#63
Boketto
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That's a whole lotta yapping but also somewhat facts maybe exaggerated

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Rey55
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Not exaggerated at all bro. People who have watched him over the years know how insanely competitive person he is and that's why he always had this hunger to improve. Now that he's retired, he has no motivation to improve his game or mechanics and people are much better in rankeds nowadays. So, when he loses it drives him insane, as much as it would do if he was losing a pro match. People around him and he himself forced him to believe that ranked and CC will be more chill for him but it's not. He's not like other pros who can just laugh it out when they play ranked, losing gets to him. I knew this all along.

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trvnq
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what the fuck.

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BLuko
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His pure skill makes up for a lack of an explosive personality when it comes to valo. But I do admit watching him play horror games is funny so he has potential to succeed as a content creator.

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