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simulating an actualy [Valorant World Cup]

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ghev

in the last few days, somewhat inspired by the EWC and the discussions around it, i've put some thought into what a proper valorant world cup would look like, so i've assembled 32 teams of mostly just countries (and a few grouped together, either because their nation didn't have enough players or because they wouldn't have been competitive enough to be in the 32), using a similar selection method to international football: anyone that is culturally, ethnically (or by blood) linked to a country is eligible for it (for ex: nivera and scream, koalanoob, kyu, FNS), each player can only appear on one team and every team needs an IGL (or someone that realistically can, but an actual IGL is preffered), retired players (within reason, i know mixwell is pushing it, can be selected), players that are "taking a break" or in free agency can also be selected.

the idea is to put these teams into valorant simulator and simulate a tournament, the teams aren't final and any suggestion or new idea is welcome.

without further ado, here's the temporary teams, open to changes and suggestions:

  • ARGENTINA
    saadhak
    nzr rubkkoide
    Klaus pika
    DanteDeus
    mizu neon

  • BRAZIL
    aspas
    palla pancada
    tuyz lukxo
    Less
    cauanzin

  • CANADA
    tenz
    mada
    eeiu
    penny
    Nismo

  • CHILE
    keznit
    mazino
    kingg
    melser
    shyy

  • CHINA
    nobody
    kangkang
    smoggy
    life chichoo
    whzy slowly

  • CZECH REPUBLIC
    marteen
    minny
    alexiiik
    monsteerr
    magnum

  • ENGLAND
    Keiko
    boaster
    benjyfishy
    soulcas
    russ

  • FINLAND
    derke
    jamppi
    hoody
    famsii
    polvi

  • FRANCE
    natank
    kadavra
    takas
    veqaj
    cyvoph

  • GERMANY
    proxh
    click
    al0rante
    luckerrr kovaQ
    Stavros musashi

  • INDIA
    FNS
    skrossi
    techno sacred
    venka ion2x
    lightningfast Jerrwin

  • INDONESIA
    mindfreak
    forsaken
    xffero
    monyet
    lmemore kushy

  • ITALY
    koalanoob
    tag
    cayden
    jonahp
    bipo

  • JAPAN
    meiy
    dep
    sugarz3ro
    xdll
    caedye

  • MOROCCO
    johnqt
    summoNN
    mapo
    nivera
    scream

  • RUSSIA
    chronicle
    nats
    something
    cloud trexx
    jemkin

  • SINGAPORE
    jinggg
    nephh
    juicy
    deryeon
    grumble ZesBeeW

  • SOUTH KOREA
    texture
    izu
    meteor
    flashback
    mako

  • SPAIN
    guardy
    vorwenn
    lowel
    mixwell
    fitinho

  • SWEDEN
    leo
    sayf
    zyppan
    meddo
    creamydreamy

  • PHILIPPINES
    invy
    wildoreoo
    jremy
    patmen
    jessievash

  • POLAND
    kaajak
    kamo
    kamyk
    patitek
    MOLSI

  • PORTUGAL
    tomaszy
    DaviH
    OLIZERA
    Fragger
    Bati

  • THAILAND
    primmie
    jitboys
    crws
    ban
    garnets

  • TURKEY
    alfajer
    riens
    cned
    wo0t
    mrfalin

  • UNITED STATES
    zekken
    leaf
    n4rrate
    bang trent
    valyn

  • UKRAINE
    Ange1
    Kiles
    RARE
    LuckyMrJ
    Wildfire

  • BALKANS
    runner
    doma
    elllement
    qpert
    kyu

  • BALTICS
    boo
    miniboo
    ardiis
    kicks
    serial

  • REST OF CN
    s1mon
    berlin
    heybay
    yuicaw
    happywei

  • REST OF APAC
    d4v41
    autumn
    dos9
    jawgemo
    crazyguy

  • REST OF EMEA
    avez
    robbieBK
    hiro
    AvovA
    ara

HM:
Lithuania (would've been decent even by itself), Belgium, Egypt, Serbia, Greece, Israel, Taiwan and Hong Kong (now "Rest Of CN"), Dominican Republic, Scandinavia (i did consider a merger)

actualy

#2
Frogger0_0
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cloudberry rip off

#5
ghev
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no i came up with this idea independently

idk who that is or what he did
but i'd appreciate silence way more than pitiful attempts at mockery

0/8

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Kaust
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CHICHOO not being on Team China has to be worth prison time because that’s criminal.

#4
Jayde
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@cloudberry

#13
ghev
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#5

#6
RapGod
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why are there 3 duelist players on team china lol

#8
ghev
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life will probably make way for chichoo but he was gonna play sentinel, whzy and kk on duelist

#7
FiredSkull
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LMAO FNS , Indian ?

#9
ghev
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i really wanted to include india but struggled to find an igl

FNS is eligible, so he's in, but if you can find me a better igl from india i'd be glad to replace the whiff-master

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FiredSkull
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My region is dead

#28
ghev
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nah, not for too long

too many people not to produce some decent players in the coming years

#30
TenzZek
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ion2x?

#42
ghev
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meh

#31
TenzZek
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ion2x?

#10
HIMNIJ
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UK lowkey looking strong but i think its a turkey US finals

#12
ghev
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don't sleep on brazil, south korea, finland and poland

#34
cerefes
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Brazil clears

#37
vibemerchant_25
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russia and indonesia have insane potential as well

#41
ghev
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true

#62
Unincognito
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There’s a few tier 2 players I would put above Russ tbh tho.

#11
KazeFuu
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the rise of Gambit if riot really want Russian org, but unfortunately they won't do it

#15
fanofkeylimepie
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Trent not on US is criminal

#17
ghev
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i honestly think n4rrate is better, they're very close tho

#16
TDR3000
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Kushy should be there

#18
ghev
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ok, he's replacing lmemore for indonesia

#19
eStos
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"Palla" why not pANcada

#21
eStos
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TWO games in T2 and ONE T1 where he was negative in both maps. You saying this guy is better than a Champs winner HAS to be ragebait

#22
ghev
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yeah fair enough, pancada is in

palla has a very bright future ahead tho, don't sleep on him

#23
KGad03
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Just replace Bang with Trent and you have a really good US team. Why would you have Valyn and Bang, makes no sense.

#24
ghev
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i was thinking they'd go double-smoker

but i guess double initiator would be better

#91
AleAlejandro
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Double initiator is ass rn but I agree with replacing bang with trent though since trent can play viper and n4rrate can play 2nd duelist depending on the map

#92
ghev
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it's been done, the us have a very strong team

top 5 i think

#25
ghev
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bump

#26
targuin
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German team probs needs a slight rework to be competitive
also if you keep the same roster then change stvaros to stavinci to make it searchable on vlr

-stvaros +musashi (individual beast and IGL for SGE)
-luckerrr +Kovaq (if we're allowed to steal him) || +Leosen otherwise || +Unfair if you wanna have fun (streamer who farms every time he plays, but doesnt play too many splits)

#27
ghev
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thanks, i didn't know musashi was IGL, he's definitely in.

i also wasn't aware that kovaQ was part german, he's not in any other team anyway, he deserves a spot too.

much more competitive german team, thanks bro

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31Raven
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i love how brazil is pretty much just loud 2023

#32
ghev
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same way chile is pretty much jst kru and thailand is talon lol

just how it is for some nations i guess

#33
teilwal
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apparently Saadhak said hed only play for brazil in a valorant world cup

#35
ghev
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is that like an "arteta would've played for england if he could've" type thing or is he actually part-brazilian?

he's getting into the argentina team for sure anyway

#36
windwine
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cloud should be removed for trexx ,lukxo over tuyz for me verno over trent without missles its very close but i think on sova verno's better
for korea izu and flashback shouldnt be in maybe stax francis yoman or rb over

#38
ghev
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lukxo for tuyz would mess up the roles, he's a better player for sure tho
i think trent is better than verno, straight up
yes trexx is better than cloud idk how i missed him he makes it for sure

#39
windwine
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isnt tuyz a smokes mainly and hes currently not playing well at all
as for the verno i think its a fair take but for me verno has better mechs and sova than trent good list tho

#40
ghev
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yeah lukxo got a lot of games on smokes, much better than tuyz too

i didn't even consider him initially as i only saw him on sentinel and that's always Less' spot for sure

#43
zephyrara
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marved?

#48
ghev
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not better than tenz i'm afraid

#44
sentinelmain377
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boring

#45
ghev
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ok

#46
laifu
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mf where is curry and ion2x for india

#61
ghev
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ok, ion2x is in for venka

but curry hasn't played a serious game in 2 years, i'm reluctant to put him in

#47
delighted
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when will the world cup start

#55
ghev
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idek if i'll actually do it, many said it's been done before and have insulted me for it

might just do it for myself atp

#56
delighted
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I'm interested to see how it'll go

#49
cloudberry
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Oh shoot I forgot I was doing this, I'm still midway through groups

#50
delighted
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hopefully I can see some good results from the Philippines 🇵🇭🇵🇭

#52
cloudberry
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This is where they're currently at:

Chile 1-2 Philippines
Ascent: CL 13-4 PH
Pearl: CL 10-13 PH
Haven: CL 12-14 PH

Philippines vs. Spain - TBD

Philippines vs. Lithuania - TBD

#53
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hopefully they make it to playoffs

#57
cloudberry
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Should be coasting from here tbh, Chile was the favourite for the group

These are the rosters:

Chile: keznit, erde, Mazino, kiNgg*, Shyy
Philippines: Jremy, JessieVash*, PatMen, Papi, invy
Lithuania: MiniBoo, Destrian, Boo*, ceNder, vakk
Spain: Fit1nho, kyrrz*, Guardy, lowel, Saiz

#58
delighted
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and yet people say PH is one of the worst subregions in Pacific, glad Philippines is proving everyone wrong

#59
cloudberry
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APAC has China, Taiwan, Indonesia, Japan, Philippines, Thailand, India, Singapore, Korea Republic, Australia, and Hong Kong in the tournament, to give you an idea

#60
delighted
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yeah, Asia is just stacked in general, so it's kinda fair people are underestimating Philippines

especially Patmen is a masters champ now

#51
deusmoooo
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Meteor/flashback change with munchkin

#54
Pusakabo0
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Philippines real
Invy(senti)
patmen(ini)
zekken(duel)
cryo(flex)
GlyPH(igl smokes)

#63
PkBTH
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I'm not too sure if anyone will choose ban or garnetS for team Thailand. I'll rather go all Thai and seek other option. I think there are plenty of talents in Southeast Asia Split 3 even if you don't choose Killua or Thyy like the current TLN roster.

edit: I think my post is too shallow so I will give some of my example for team Thailand without Killua or Thyy.

  1. Currently, I would have endoist as Duelist instead of Thyy and/or garnetS. He's natural duelist like Jawgemo and kid is still growing.
  2. TBH Killua peak is very high and I think he have potential to be world-class initiator so it's hard to find replacement. If I have to pick one maybe PTC or Leviathan, or just some flex player to play other position. It's not equivalent exchange since the style is different but those two are still top player in Thailand.
  3. Another interesting action might be to pick Laz (Thai Laz) from FS as IGL and let Crws be 6th man (if he want to retire) like what PRX did in Toronto with Mindfreak. Crws can give insight into the game while Laz can control the game in his stead. Not to disrespect Laz, he have a long experience but he need guidance from someone in global stage. I personally think this six-man roster as guidance is one of the key winning conditions for T1 and PRX but might as well be only me.

P.S. to be honest I think the simulation should include the coaching staff as I believe it affects the winning condition largely but I understand the difficulty and complexity of it.

#64
cloudberry
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I'd go with Primmie Killua JitBoyS Laz +1... Thailand has a couple great flex players, just throw in one of them

#65
vexdia
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had so many korean players nd u decided to make a shit roster

#70
ghev
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make a better one then

i'm not perfect, i'm down to make changes

#74
delighted
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I'd say Rb is a good shout

#93
vexdia
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mb bro i didnt mean to say it like dat haha i js found it funny my fault

#94
ghev
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oh i didn't mean any hostilities either dw

genuinely, if you have some changes to suggest for any team i'll hear you out

#66
inuis
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zesbeew for singapore surely

#71
ghev
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ok 👍

#67
ufc
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I got perms banned without warning from FNS’s chat for asking if he is Indian… Mind you asking…. Plain “Is FNS in India.” Exact words… perma banned by someone

#68
ufc
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Make space for Sheydos over Something/Jemkin

#69
BluePunchXD
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nah ion2x, jerrwin and sacred would be good over FNS, techno and skrossi

#75
ghev
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ion2x and sacred are in for techno and venka

i'm getting a lot of suggestions for india lol, wasn't familiar with these players from vcl na/sea

#72
Huitzilopochtli
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India should be:
Venka
Ion2x
Sacred
FNS
jerrwin

#77
ghev
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ok, jerrwin is in, but i'm keeping skrossi

#73
Huitzilopochtli
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also Germany looking very good

#76
Pototo
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So basically we get South Korea vs Russia for Grand Finale

#78
Langacune
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bro put cned over xeus

#90
Langacune
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wow you destroyed me with that one game link

#79
GodAwfulGod
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I feel like Jemkin should be replaced on the Russia team with someone like cloud or vo0kashu. I mean I'm biased towards vo0kashu but I think both are probably better than Jemkin at the moment.

#80
ghev
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nah, even after these last few months jemkin is better be so fr

mvp of stage 1, cloud and vookashu ain't doing allat

#81
tiyoe
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replace whzy with slowly

#83
ghev
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👍

#82
Hobbit
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this would be MY argentina wc roster

kru dantedeu5: duelist
kc saadhak: recon/main initiator IGL
shi rubkkoide: sentinel
lev neon: controller
koi pika: flex

#84
ghev
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would work, but can neon really play controller?

#85
Hobbit
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bro it's proven that any mechanically gifted duelist can play controller (at least omen)

tenz
keiko
reduxx
yay
soon keznit
now cNed

he'd do good

#86
ghev
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i'm sure he would

but he's NEVER played smokes so it'd be kinda unfair to put him in there no?
could be second duelist...

#87
Hobbit
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onur said that he will eventually make everyone on the academy play every role, because their objective is not to win tier 2, but form new and young talent. so i think he will play smokes, eventually

#88
ghev
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ok, he's in

will make argentina way more competitive, definitely funner to watch
upon further reflection, fine by me

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