The t1 team will always come in with an advantage, however that doesnt mean the team (and the org) have more potential than the replacement

Its to force the swap for "disappointing" teams.
Its cruel; especially with the slot being only 1 year nowadays.

But if the rule wasnt in place then I could never see a new team ascending; its just too much of an uphill battle. Even Apeks would currently be heavily favored vs every t2 team with what theyve shown. It would require the t1 team to fall apart.

Riot have to change the system regardless to make it more fair to ascension teams, however I think this is one of the rules that (should slot length and or amount be increased) could end up being healthy (maybe in a tad bit more lenient form if you can do it via average placements over 2 years for example).
In its current form it is just devastating though, so I get why it seems bad.

they definitely could
but as described I think they just wanted more comp flexibility

main agent nataNk is playing rn soulcas hasnt played is yoru (who is pretty essential in the current meta), hence that being the only reason I could justify him getting benched
(in case my post gave the wrong impression: I very much wanted soulcas to stay in t1 and hope he returns ASAP)

feels like it depends on the day ngl, but wouldnt disagree
he showed the most he has all split today (and the game vs liquid) so I hope he gets to stay next year and gain consistency (on a hopefully stable roster)

ye
or just get him to learn yoru if they wanted that out him tbh
he's been open to just playing whatever in the past so Id assume he still is

he's still signed so theres hope

he's on ucam so he gets trials for sure

flex that cant play stuff like yoru ig
MONSTEERR IS a better sentinel so it sorta left him in limbo - they want a flex that can play the new meta, but also had a good sentinel lines up
(to be clear this is what I think happened and not based on any statements made by coaches/players/etc)

still sucks since he was their best player by FAR first split, but KOI had to make changes

well the 2 that were on fire, left for other teams
and both of them did translate decently tbf

https://www.youtube.com/live/Wpx3mhlEa9Y?si=f6-IONUZjajfkbUY&t=12400 (for best viewing experience just watch sliggy)

ok who tf is doing these brackets xD
why not swap lower seeds after playoffs? (in this case Fokus and Atn)

Had RZN won the OT against ATN then BOTH games would be immediate rematches - whats the point of that ESPECIALLY in a single elim stage?
For example, if SGN and FKS were the 2 strongest teams in the tourney then it would be impossible for both of them to make it unless they intentionally throw or get upset in the first round of playoffs.

ngl its bad to the point where I thought it was a vlr mistake

.... bro didnt watch 2024

Banger game

depends on if you count pre franchising, but ye LG with mada was t1 in 2022

luminosity pre franchising

100%^
Players like Kamo struggled way more during stage 1 for example, and TL was still able to preform to a very high level
Blaming a player who was ever so slightly worse than the support players (while your IGL is having a performance that makes Avova look good) is just lazy

he was also the worst by in terms of rar (1.5 is the "average" for a t1 player)
Stage 1: Shao 3.1; Ruxic 2.4; Hiro 1.7 and koalanoob 1.4

Still a scapegoat... but also the most logical change when your goal is to reach internationals this year

Imo that'll just be the analytics results being run through pr
Basically the investigation will have used statistical significance, during which they reached a number insignificant enough (in UX design it'd generally be P>=0.1, but no clue exactly what tests -> thresholds they used) to not report it.

So "nothing happened" is correct, although its trying to say "nothing statistically significant happened"
(But as you can guess that becomes annoying af to always say so the first is used a lot, even when talking to math+stat masters while I was at uni)

Thats just the story of emea ascension teams ngl
"They could have won" - and theyll somehow end up 0-10

lmao thats a new one
thats a tad annoying when collecting data from vlr; time to add an extra check ig

its not good for riot
t2 is already on the verge of collapsing, and somehow finding a way to further screw them over wont help

you wanna replace partnered teams like Koi, GX, etc in your hypotheticals

Ascension teams get replaced by ascension teams, not random "we want this org" lmao

now that was a statement victory

If I had to blame a single person, id say it was the dambi neon clip that was everywhere ~ 8 months back
boosted the shotgun usage in EU ranked at least

https://x.com/Dambi_vlrt/status/1849412702311272784?t=e_nZkRaLkH8aJtZGOUBg8g&s=19

kovaq too
time to rebuild the roster ngl

pixelmon for the better pokemon experience, cobblemon for the better minecraft experience
so depends on what you feel

realistically gonna depend on what server you find though

its just peeps liking their t2 players ngl
watching peeps come up from your regional league is fun af

but yea I can see how it gets annoying when theres like 10 rookies getting hyped nonstop

Nah its just that he's playing on a team with 5 t2 players
No ones on the same page yet

For comeback specifically (though tbf he did return the favor by hard baiting in quite a few rounds xD) he currently gets punished by mistakes of his team
For example kamyk missing util rarely got kamyk himself killed, but rather ended up with comeback running into an unflashed player and getting owned

They all have mechanical talent on the roster, so Itll get better as the season goes on dw

theres another yoru player who taught a ton of tech to f0rsaken, but idk if vlr wants to hear his name

(might not be the best time rn, but regardless) minny has been doing the same to pretty decent success, so should work out if the rest of the team is vocal

LETS GOOOOO

only valid answer

"Just ff, we needed a 12-0"

the scriptwriters

This shit aint gentle

ascension teams are just cursed in emea
wtf is this shit

ye pacific peeps (or person) having fun

Min salary wouldnt surprise me. They cant compete with any other org anyways so you dont need to drive up the prices.

Regarding the disbanding:
If the org stays in t1 it wouldnt disband and even if they return to t2 its not guaranteed.
For context the rumors that they were closing operations started back in 2023. We had our first "leaks" from the Spanish scene after the loss to m8. They didnt close down their valorant division.
(This made its waves multiple times in the following months, but nothing ever came of it)
We then had the same rumor going into 2024 ascension (again from the Spanish scene). This has been publicly denied.
Since Ive seen no new information since, I would assume ardiis is just parroting the same rumor once again.

The whole thing is based on assumptions. We are to believe Apeks was struggling for money when they shut down their cs operation. But theyve downsized since so we dont really know how dire things are.
Their owners are VERY passionate for esports (their former sister company mist games run the N//E league rn and youve seen them work on the past 3 ascension tourneys) so the org will run as long as realistically possible.

Average should still be around 100k like last years' stage 2 no? But yea not ideal given that other regions have at least 50% more

its so cursed

I fucking hate lotus

first m8 now Apeks, that map is just designed to crush Ascension teams' dreams at this point

More like a 1990s Ford explorer, with a 70% chance to kill you on your way to work, but it'll hopefully get you to your destination

Do you want all Ascension teams to be in the playoffs?

sorta? the average stay of an ascension team should be close to 2 years for the new system to be equal to the old

T2 orgs have (before the guaranteed stay was lowered to 1 year) complained that 2 years werent really enough for it to make sense financially. 1 year is a joke obviously.

i'd take it at this point

I do think watching chobras (way too long) review of the documentary would help a lot of people
Translation + cultural context (and just doing a way better job trying to understand the others perspective than the other "reviews" ive watched)

(Still isnt positive, so if you come for drama/hatewatching then theres still a lot of that in there)
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From my perspective the T1 ...

Yea and thats why I find the backlash such a shame
Intentional or not, we're dissuading orgs from giving us the exact transparency we always ask for

Expectations
A team like t1 when getting formed

I personally dont think that was really THAT much of an influence in the issues, rather a side effect. I dont think the players had different personalities BECAUSE they were on a super team, but rather that the org ended up with mismatching personalities because they were looking to build the best possible roster (and the differences werent an issue during the initial tests)
But yea things getting heated is so normal. Ive had some of my worst moments in gaming while in a (fucking paladins t3, we are literally students earning 0€ from this) team. Things get heated when theres (perceived in my case) real stakes. So nice segment as a whole^^

For all we know right after buzz apologised after the fact but it will never be shown because the camera doesnt capture it all. ...

Especially since Sylvan doesn't seem on necessarily bad terms with T1, even after the documentary blew up.

Honestly when I heard ppl talking shit, I thought it would be really bad

I do think if you interpret this in a western way then its way worse than what you percieved. For us it looks like a ton of gaslighting and having so many of these discussions at the expense of Sylvan's mental.
But cultural differences. So to pretend this was the intention of anyone on the team would be making large assumptions. Bad, but the documentary isnt anywhere near enough to attribute malicious intent to it.

The only people im dissapointed in or I guess suprised by is the org t1 for allowing this to be shown because yes it happens a lot but it should never be public, like drama and stuff.

Idk... I REALLY like this kind of content and feel like it (if it didnt blow up for drama reasons) is hugely beneficial to our understanding of the scene. Demystifying something we like speculating about so much doesnt seeem bad to me.
Its just that the backlash is irresponsible for an active roster. So I like the concept, the community just doesnt seem ready ig?

Once hes 18 he gets an auto spot

him and sayonara are just way too good in t2 to pass up

oh yea theres like 3 of us that are loyal to Polaris
isnt going so well this far, but theres still some hope... maybe... ok not really but hopefully they can at least develop their rookies so their players can stay in t1

also Molsi is the truth so that makes supporting them easier at least

Ye and that is my issue with the approach (on public reception related issues)
Because I fully agree that "we dont know" is the only correct answer based on public information

However the actual result of that approach leans heavily in the guilty until proven innocent direction
You cant ignore the allegations and as such cant realistically sign her.
The result doesnt match the current conclusion; why is the "neutral" option only punishing one party (and significantly at that)

But I also dont know how to fix it past going back to the binary innocent until proven guilty approach

(Trying to gauge how you apply this non binary moral approach to binary choices)
Assume you are a Manager for a t1 org (with full freedom of who to sign) and Riot decided to not take any further action
Would you be willing to sign flor?

how tf did I manage to miss that interview
actual goldmine

After round 20 (1v4, last second plant, outlaw collateral Ace) by Fizzy , I think its safe to say Fks weren't meant to win this one

shame iluri didnt win the round 21 1v4 for good measure

how much of this is because TH cut zeek?