why demon1 sucks now

The pace/meta has changed. Demon1 is a slow sens player. Everyone has realized how op yoru is and its way harder to play yoru on a slow sens. Some can do it, but demon1 is not that guy. He's a slow sens merchant. This is why king was on yoru, and this is why demon1 does not play raze, yoru, waylay (high sens agents, generally speaking). Unfortunately for him the impact ceiling of high sens agents aka OP agents is far greater than the impact jett/chamber can have on a game.

TLDR; he is washed and hasn't or can't adapt to the duelist meta

he got worse mechanically. nothing to do with sens

nah idt its the sens he just not good at ulti cus slow sens have now been used by other duelists players like kangkang hyunmin

dgzin has an extremely low sens and he does the entry with agents like neon and raze very well, thats not an excuse tbh

washedradiant [#2]

he got worse mechanically. nothing to do with sens

idk bro, it's a common theme really. it's the same story with y0y imo

glittering_yard [#4]

dgzin has an extremely low sens and he does the entry with agents like neon and raze very well, thats not an excuse tbh

ya forgot about him his sens is even lower than demon1

glittering_yard [#4]

dgzin has an extremely low sens and he does the entry with agents like neon and raze very well, thats not an excuse tbh

I said some can do it if you read the post

ronaldinhoooooooooooo [#5]

idk bro, it's a common theme really. it's the same story with y0y imo

yay increased his sens bro lol

windwine [#3]

nah idt its the sens he just not good at ulti cus slow sens have now been used by other duelists players like kangkang hyunmin

some can do it. was stated

ronaldinhoooooooooooo [#5]

idk bro, it's a common theme really. it's the same story with y0y imo

imo demon1 still showed abit of his peak but yay never shown anything close to it

washedradiant [#8]

yay increased his sens bro lol

exactly my point. He's not even half as good as he used to be. But he still had to change it to adapt to the meta

ronaldinhoooooooooooo [#7]

I said some can do it if you read the post

I know, but it talks about Yoru. I think his main problem is that he couldnt learn to hard entry with dive duelist agents, so he switched the roles of whole team just because of him

Because coachs are braindead at the point that they arent putting him as jett/astra

glittering_yard [#12]

I know, but it talks about Yoru. I think his main problem is that he couldnt learn to hard entry with dive duelist agents, so he switched the roles of whole team just because of him

ya his ultility is not good at all like bru like all duelist players can atleast pay raze decently but he cant

ronaldinhoooooooooooo [#5]

idk bro, it's a common theme really. it's the same story with y0y imo

the common theme is EG fucking over their champs roster after winning and some of them never recovering. Only really Jawg can still keep up.

ronaldinhoooooooooooo [#11]

exactly my point. He's not even half as good as he used to be. But he still had to change it to adapt to the meta

mf the meta is low sens bro. Yay got worse raising his sens. Just cause your sens is low doesnt mean you cant 180 and do insane shi. Kangkang is also low sens

glittering_yard [#12]

I know, but it talks about Yoru. I think his main problem is that he couldnt learn to hard entry with dive duelist agents, so he switched the roles of whole team just because of him

I mean i literally mention all the other agents too bro lol.

But yes, because he can't play the high sens agents he caused his team to have to switch roles which is why LEV sucks now. D1 is washed end of story. He'll have the odd pop off game sure. But he's really only decent on jett. And teams are starting to find ways around jett now too (bc of the goat aspas)

ur low sens argument doesn't make sense
pros are using low sens now more than ever

windwine [#3]

nah idt its the sens he just not good at ulti cus slow sens have now been used by other duelists players like kangkang hyunmin

hyunmin looks like a high sens player bruh hes so snappy with it

This is not a sens issue. Its a "what does the player excel at and what does he suck at" issue, and demon1 isnt feeling it mechanically, nor does the meta suit him. Look at canezerra dominating t2 rn, hes INCREDIBLY low sens player. Dgzin is also thriving in t1 rn and hes low sense. Other high sens players are doing well, especially in apac sure, but its not a requirement. Pretty sure some of the new signed emea prodigy players are low sens too like Serial but could be wrong

love_trial [#19]

hyunmin looks like a high sens player bruh hes so snappy with it

agreed but he uses 0.2 8-00dpi

Aayan [#18]

ur low sens argument doesn't make sense
pros are using low sens now more than ever

do any of u tards read the post????

"Some can do it, demon1 is not that guy"

Pros are in fact not using low sens now more than ever lmaoooo

ronaldinhoooooooooooo [#22]

do any of u tards read the post????

"Some can do it, demon1 is not that guy"

Pros are in fact not using low sens now more than ever lmaoooo

wrong

also i never said anything about demon1, im j talking about how ur justifying ur argument
so in fact the one who cant seem to read is you

Masa [#20]

This is not a sens issue. Its a "what does the player excel at and what does he suck at" issue, and demon1 isnt feeling it mechanically, nor does the meta suit him. Look at canezerra dominating t2 rn, hes INCREDIBLY low sens player. Dgzin is also thriving in t1 rn and hes low sense. Other high sens players are doing well, especially in apac sure, but its not a requirement. Pretty sure some of the new signed emea prodigy players are low sens too like Serial but could be wrong

You can argue it that way too sure. But at the core it's really the sens imo

Stop bringing up players who excel on low sens, I already acknowledged that.

I'm saying the mechanics for the high sens duelist becomes way easier with high sens. Yes you can be like dg and still effectively use satchels and what not. But clearly D1 cannot. Whether u wanna say its a mechanical issue or sens issue that's up to you. But lets be real, sens plays a huge role in your "mechanics". I hate sinatraa but I remember him saying this in regards to sens: You should play the highest sens that you are able to control.

Aayan [#23]

wrong

also i never said anything about demon1, im j talking about how ur justifying ur argument
so in fact the one who cant seem to read is you

too many speds commenting at once my b. Read #24 for more insight

Hop off the alt kfan

washedradiant [#16]

mf the meta is low sens bro. Yay got worse raising his sens. Just cause your sens is low doesnt mean you cant 180 and do insane shi. Kangkang is also low sens

for the love of sanity can you stop agreeing with me by disagreeing. I'm just gonna assume ur baiting or have 1iq

I would agree with you if Demon1 was slow during his peak. If you look at his highlights the guy was making very fast flicks and his reaction time was also very fast. He just isn't like that anymore.

Flumplestiltski [#28]

I would agree with you if Demon1 was slow during his peak. If you look at his highlights the guy was making very fast flicks and his reaction time was also very fast. He just isn't like that anymore.

I mean yea he could just be washed but I'm more interested in WHY he's washed. During his peak he never had to play the "high sens agents".

He isn't like that anymore bc it turns out he was never like that to begin with. He's just a low sens agent merchant that was really CARRIED BY JAWGEMO. It's so obvious too lmao. Just look at G2 and look at LEV.

just surprised why he cant hop onto more of a senti/lurk role sooner honestly

ronaldinhoooooooooooo [#27]

for the love of sanity can you stop agreeing with me by disagreeing. I'm just gonna assume ur baiting or have 1iq

do you even know what your saying lmao. you just were saying raze, yoru, waylay is high sens but kangkang is low sens and can play them all. And if you agree with me even tho I said meta is low sens, which is the opposite of what your saying. How is yay adapting to "your meta" and playing worse agreeing with you. Please reread what you said or stop this bait

sameer40 [#30]

just surprised why he cant hop onto more of a senti/lurk role sooner honestly

Yea literally, if he did this then king could be perma duelist and the team might stand a chance.

I think it's related to $$$ atp idek. The guy named "DEMON" being a star duelist player obviously sells more jerseys and pulls viewers. It is a business at the end of the day.

Hes washed because of his attitude. He won once and think he's all that, but now he realized that he's now shit and winning champs was in the past. He gave up on the game and himself, its clear for everyone to see. He sucks and even he knows it himself now.

washedradiant [#31]

do you even know what your saying lmao. you just were saying raze, yoru, waylay is high sens but kangkang is low sens and can play them all. And if you agree with me even tho I said meta is low sens, which is the opposite of what your saying. How is yay adapting to "your meta" and playing worse agreeing with you. Please reread what you said or stop this bait

ok let me spell it out for you

You say #8: yay increased his sens
I say #11: exactly, this is why he's not as good anymore.
you say #16: yay got worse raising his sens.

^You are agreeing with me by disagreeing^

I'm not agreeing with you that the meta is slow sens. I don't think sens plays a role in the META. The meta is defined by the agents and strats being used. Right now the meta duelists are more yoru, raze, neon, and now probably waylay. I'm saying these agents are easier with a faster sens (aka the mechanics are easier). And before you do the same shit as the others, YES I KNOW THERE ARE PLAYERS WITH SLOW SENS WHO CAN ROCK THOSE AGENTS. I'm saying demon1 is not one of those players. Why can't he do what dg does then? He's just not as good as dg mechanically AT THAT SENS.

end of the day u can say sens or mechanics idc it's really goes hand in hand in my book.
So if you want to say mechanics and sens aren't related than you can say that and that's where we actually differ.

Like jesus fuk i gotta point out everything including what ur actually tryna argue. VLR is so braindead

Shadow_Monarch [#33]

Hes washed because of his attitude. He won once and think he's all that, but now he realized that he's now shit and winning champs was in the past. He gave up on the game and himself, its clear for everyone to see. He sucks and even he knows it himself now.

I can see this being a factor too.

Gamer finally gets money -> Starts splashing the cash forgetting the discipline/ how many hours is required to be great -> Enjoys life a bit -> Gets left in the dust.

Kinda like the gym, u go 5 days a week eating clean for 2 years. Then you spend 6 months eating pizza and wings and never working out. Everyone else that continued hitting the gym is always going to be bigger.

ronaldinhoooooooooooo [#29]

I mean yea he could just be washed but I'm more interested in WHY he's washed. During his peak he never had to play the "high sens agents".

He isn't like that anymore bc it turns out he was never like that to begin with. He's just a low sens agent merchant that was really CARRIED BY JAWGEMO. It's so obvious too lmao. Just look at G2 and look at LEV.

I mean i think he's just washed brother. He was playing jett making 90 degree one shot flicks left right and center during his peak. Sure he was never doing 360 spins or raze satchels but his Jett was not some angle holding, OP crutch. Demon1 was the best rifler ITW and a great OPer.

I do agree his sens makes it harder to be great at agents like raze or neon but if he was playing like he used to then it would be no concern at all imo. It's only a concern now bc he isn't the same player he used to be

DIAMOND1 is trash

ronaldinhoooooooooooo [#34]

ok let me spell it out for you

You say #8: yay increased his sens
I say #11: exactly, this is why he's not as good anymore.
you say #16: yay got worse raising his sens.

^You are agreeing with me by disagreeing^

I'm not agreeing with you that the meta is slow sens. I don't think sens plays a role in the META. The meta is defined by the agents and strats being used. Right now the meta duelists are more yoru, raze, neon, and now probably waylay. I'm saying these agents are easier with a faster sens (aka the mechanics are easier). And before you do the same shit as the others, YES I KNOW THERE ARE PLAYERS WITH SLOW SENS WHO CAN ROCK THOSE AGENTS. I'm saying demon1 is not one of those players. Why can't he do what dg does then? He's just not as good as dg mechanically AT THAT SENS.

end of the day u can say sens or mechanics idc it's really goes hand in hand in my book.
So if you want to say mechanics and sens aren't related than you can say that and that's where we actually differ.

Like jesus fuk i gotta point out everything including what ur actually tryna argue. VLR is so braindead

ok so basically demon1 is not good because of his mechanics and not cause of his sens, cause other people can use that sens its just demon1s problem. We go back to #2

washedradiant [#38]

ok so basically demon1 is not good because of his mechanics and not cause of his sens, cause other people can use that sens its just demon1s problem. We go back to #2

yea man you're right, his mechanics are worse.

Kangkang plays at the same sens as him and in fact players like leaf and dgzin have a sens even lower than his, yet all of them are still top players within their respective regions

Just admit that Demon1 is washed

love_trial [#19]

hyunmin looks like a high sens player bruh hes so snappy with it

I tried lower sens because hyunmin and KK look so fast and precise on low but idk how they do it

his game against mibr was his first as a full time controller

i think he is washed but i wanna wait for his next matches to know for sure if he's finished, he showed a bit of life at the end of kickoff

washed

cant fucking learn how to play raze and has no more aim

jett one trick learn how to speak chinese buddy

always sucks except for those few months in 2023

ronaldinhoooooooooooo [#35]

I can see this being a factor too.

Gamer finally gets money -> Starts splashing the cash forgetting the discipline/ how many hours is required to be great -> Enjoys life a bit -> Gets left in the dust.

Kinda like the gym, u go 5 days a week eating clean for 2 years. Then you spend 6 months eating pizza and wings and never working out. Everyone else that continued hitting the gym is always going to be bigger.

2024 he was horrible, and now 2025 he's just no longer the great player he was. No excuses. His attitude is shit and with no discipline, there's no success - it's over for him, end of story.

ronaldinhoooooooooooo [#34]

ok let me spell it out for you

You say #8: yay increased his sens
I say #11: exactly, this is why he's not as good anymore.
you say #16: yay got worse raising his sens.

^You are agreeing with me by disagreeing^

I'm not agreeing with you that the meta is slow sens. I don't think sens plays a role in the META. The meta is defined by the agents and strats being used. Right now the meta duelists are more yoru, raze, neon, and now probably waylay. I'm saying these agents are easier with a faster sens (aka the mechanics are easier). And before you do the same shit as the others, YES I KNOW THERE ARE PLAYERS WITH SLOW SENS WHO CAN ROCK THOSE AGENTS. I'm saying demon1 is not one of those players. Why can't he do what dg does then? He's just not as good as dg mechanically AT THAT SENS.

end of the day u can say sens or mechanics idc it's really goes hand in hand in my book.
So if you want to say mechanics and sens aren't related than you can say that and that's where we actually differ.

Like jesus fuk i gotta point out everything including what ur actually tryna argue. VLR is so braindead

ur baiting obvious

windwine [#10]

imo demon1 still showed abit of his peak but yay never shown anything close to it

He used to drop a nuke almost every map in 2022

windwine [#3]

nah idt its the sens he just not good at ulti cus slow sens have now been used by other duelists players like kangkang hyunmin

Hyunmin is a high sens have you seen how he enters site effortlessly

Demon1 was a time and place player. Worked in a great system with Potter/Boostio/Jawgemo during a meta that suited him. He was on comfort agents and at his mechanical peak. He's been unable to fit into any other role or system, doesn't look comfortable in the current meta, his mechanics have dropped a bit and he has likely lost passion for the game. This isn't even factoring in his personal issues as well.

Give him more time. The season only just started.

SleepingSnorlax [#48]

Hyunmin is a high sens have you seen how he enters site effortlessly

.

SleepingSnorlax [#48]

Hyunmin is a high sens have you seen how he enters site effortlessly

uh u might wanna do some research