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N4RRATE

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#1
Just_some_loser

I think he's the second best player on SEN rn, but realistically, is he the problem? I think sen are missing sacy more than tenz right now, Sacy's util allowed zekken to be a lot better than he is atm, and I think sen have been struggling with role problem ever since.

If ur Sen's coaching staff, what would you actually do? Would you drop n4rrate?

#2
StalwartTiger_35
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he messes up the roles and the vibes, seems like a verno situation to me

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serot
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he just tilts easily, verno out here punching FNS.
not comparable

#22
jiancik
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if FNS was his igl he'll punch puchan too

#3
kaezzz
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he was REALLY important to SEN, his leadership is strongly hard to replace

#4
cristiadu
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people underplay Sacy's contribution bc everyone is just so focused on kills

#5
Bonkbonk201
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He has a significant mentality problem. I remember a moment during a professional match, possibly against MIBR or just before that game, when he sighed into the microphone. Zellsis shouted at him not to make those sighs and to stop that behaviour, reminding him that they had it under control. I understand that times can get tough in some games, but actions like that are not characteristic of a tier-one player, regardless of how you look at it, in my opinion.

(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSHKrngMD2s) is where the quote comes from, "We don't have much confidence in each other," he would never have said that about Tenz and Sacy. I'm wondering if the arrival of Bang and Narrate has made a difference in this regard, especially with Narrate sighing on the mic. John, Zellsis, and Zekken still appear unchanged to me. The only potential issue seems to be Bang and Narrate having differing ideas.

In a situation reminiscent of when (https://www.vlr.gg/player/5004/nathan-bocqueho) was allegedly dropped from Leviatan due to having "differing ideas" with both Net and the coaching staff (if I recall correctly), I believe that having a good team requires diverse perspectives. If you want to succeed, it's essential to have players who think differently. I can guarantee that players like Aspas, Derke, Leo, and Nats are all incredible talents, but they will have different ideas compared to outstanding players like Less, Mako, and Meteor, who each excel in their own right, This situation is different because there's a genuinely personal reason on narrates side that needs to be solved in himself, The team cannot help with that unlike with Nathan where he was dropped for differing ideas which imo is just fundamentally stupid for the reasons shared above.

TL:DR, Nothing else changed and Zellsis has been having to really whip narrate into shape on stage, imo that shows he is the problem. I think the best course of action would be to try and get Narrate up to shape quickly and if he isn't there by stage 2 personally I'd drop him and get a new player in.

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Burgru
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just to add: if anyone has watched narrate stream, his mental issues are blatantly shown. Dude is always raging like a child that didn't get a toy at the store.

#12
cameran
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100% as a long viewer of his, he bans anyone from gis chat that calls him bad to the slightest like “that was a bad play” LMAO

#13
Burgru
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hes legit the only pro player i've seen unironically scream into the mic at the top of his lungs from a ranked game. I instantly stopped watching his streams after that.

#10
Toph_
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Zellsis legit slammed the table in the same match but sighing is where we draw the line of a mentality problem…? This over emphasis on n4rrate mental as if it’s actually a major reason as to why the team is playing horribly is such and interesting angle to take just considering this was never even MENTIONED during his time on kc.

#18
BTWI
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yea but I feel at least for me if I was on a team where someone slams the desk that shows frustration and they they are still trying and wanting to win, sighing just seems like you have given up and can't build back up

#23
nomb3r
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Well that table slam is mostly only because he's frustrated at his own self dying to a knife on a winnable round and I mean he is human too so he will be mad and be sorry to his teammates for "throwing" a crucial round. Obviously it can be a little hypocritical but Zellsis for the most part is always trying to keep the mood up and tries to control his mentality. Narrate tries too obviously but it seems to be a little hard for him

#24
nomb3r
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this is all pretty much true but we got to remember that this team with the addition of Bang and Narrate has been a team for only a few months now while last year's roster has been around for about a year+ only adding Zellsis as a new player and yes they had good chemistry almost right away but still adding one ~new player and adding 2 totally new members is different and they would need to work around a lot of things to be able to sync together with a lot of trust. A single change in a team environment can really change up a lot of how a team can work.

#6
unofficialwaifu
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last year everyone was saying "drop sacy" "he always gives away kills", now most people realize how important he was to the team lol

For me zellsis has to switch to flashes, john back to sentinel and N4RRATE as your recon player (I like his omen on abyss tho)

the other two are fine

#21
serot
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I feel like forcing IGL on initiator is super overrated. SEN won Madrid with johnqt on senti. Boostio won champs playing KJ.

#7
charleser
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Team chemistry and vibes aren't there anymore. SEN's matches during the first half of 2024 were excellent valorant and their performance right now is nowhere near Madrid form. Narrate is mechanically an excellent player with good flexibility but hasn't fit into SEN at all. If they don't get it together by stage 2 I think changes will have to be made. Right now I think roles need to be switched and time has to be given to them.

#9
KClaw
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I think sen aren't like bad but are missing the experience and composure that sacy and tenz bought in vital and bad situations also this team chemistry isn't top of the box like that kamyk 1v4 , zekken and narrate jumping at the same time, or bang on that 12th bind round not holding spawn and turning to the front meaning he doesn't have full trust on teammates to hold front

#11
Toph_
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John shouldn’t be an initiator if he’s not willing to take a single step on site. And Zellsis mid rounding has declined this year so far. It it’s extremely obvious when they look super structured to start of a round and then start crumbling and hesitantly peeking things with no real team coordination. Nats 1v4 you can tell John didn’t want to swing there. Kamyk 1v4 you can tell Zellsis didn’t want to peak but Zekken was overheating and so Zellsis felt obligated to swing with him. And then n4rrate didn’t want to peak just spammed the box. But then zellsis peaks so n4rrate feels obligated to peak. It’s exactly how I play when my teammates are doing dumb things and I feel, well sure at the very least let’s do it together but because of my split second hesitation because I know it’s not the right play. Pro players making mistakes I would make is not a good thing…

#14
TheLegend27
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Mid-rounding largely relies on information you can get from your initiators. Sacy was one of the best at providing information which makes sense why SEN struggle so much this year at that aspect. This also is the reason why crashies is still being picked up, but people just be looking at stats and hating on him not understanding the value he brings

#15
BeraJr
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honestly n4rrate is getting a lot of hate yes he does deserve some of it but I feel bang also deserves some hate like in the current meta an omen player must be aggressive he is playing for the end round sorta clutch situations . I feel he needs to incorporate aggregation in his gameplay. I feel sen should return to their off season roles where narrate played senti and zellsis was playing flash initiators and viper,like narrate is a good fade and gekko player but he is not as good on others initiators and he is good at pouncing on small windows so he shud move to senti . Zekken doesn't op as much on jett so on jett maps n4rrate switches to jett . John needs to play every single recon initiator and be more aggressive . They need to fix their spacing issues and overheating issues I have faith in Kaplan and John . The biggest problem this team lacks character and personality like they always give up bro if tenz or sacy were there and sen was 7-0 8-0 down they would be like forget about the score do what got us here and take it one round at a time , even before map 3 started tthey looked like they had lost IDK wat Kaplan said before the map but anything instead of yall played gr8 abyss was their best map and we could have won it there but its ok you all have showed a lot of character and its bind now and then they discuss the tactics .Like anything but that is trolling

#17
SleepingSnorlax
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Letting narrate play senti is a bad decision he has put good numbers as initiator player I would say put John back to senti

#16
Serath
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Bang also chokes so much, should really talk about him.

#20
Jivko
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on paper this roster has more firepower but it creates role issues and bang and n4rrate are the complete opposite of vibe merchants

#25
Pengu12
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Zekken is playing ww3 every time he wants to entry, he gets picked off while entering without a trade way more this year then he ever did last year. The loss of the aggressive omen play style and the extremely good supporting util by sacy, zellsis and tenz is costing them pretty heavily

Also they tilt super easy

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