RIddel order 3-0

RID-MRG 2-3

Riddle need to win this and ascension. Otherwise, the same thing will happen again. Seoldam's teammate gets scouted and seoldam left alone. Worst case, seoldam probably retire.

Caedye time 😈

riddle 3-0 fennel

light work for riddle

its gonna be interesting to see how well they do against other ascension teams

lets go RIDDLE =)

Before you guys jump into conclusion on how this match will go , just know that these past 3 splits teams that won upper finals never won grand finals 😭

https://liquipedia.net/valorant/VCL/2023/Japan/Split_1

https://liquipedia.net/valorant/VCL/2023/Japan/Split_2

https://liquipedia.net/valorant/VCL/2024/Japan/Split_1

Let's hope that riddle doesn't fall to the same curse

RIDDLE REALLY SAID RIDDLE ME THIS FENNEL AND BROKE THE CURSE 🔥🔥🔥

My 2 favorite teams before season started 🥲
No idea who'll win, it'll be banger for sure, and a very solid Ascension candidate

It's either going to be a banger or blowout lol

RID 5 - 0 FL
EZ MONEY

Former IGL JoxJo vs current IGL CLZ
Rookies vs Veterans

Both teams has the potential to win. This is for sure gonna be a banger match

ex-NTH vs ex-NTH
Seoldam vs TENNN
let's gooooo

IonlywatchvcjXD [#9]

It's either going to be a banger or blowout lol

SyouTa also use Cypher OMG, FENNEL FLEX GOD and TENNN Raze is back

My heart cannot take this. On one hand, FL looks shaky and even if they win grand finals, I doubt how much I can put my trust in them to win Ascension. On the other hand, RID might break even if they win Ascension.

Of course, I want the team that can win it all to go to Ascension, but I also love FL. Fuck. I'm going to lose my shit tomorrow.

Riddle please win 🙏🙏🙏

I hope whoever wins will be able to defend the title of VCJ winner at Ascension with honor

Good luck Tenkin, show us your Macho Aim #FLWIN

arin2016 [#14]

My heart cannot take this. On one hand, FL looks shaky and even if they win grand finals, I doubt how much I can put my trust in them to win Ascension. On the other hand, RID might break even if they win Ascension.

Of course, I want the team that can win it all to go to Ascension, but I also love FL. Fuck. I'm going to lose my shit tomorrow.

Why do you say RID might break?
Because of their players ages?

Scar98 [#18]

Why do you say RID might break?
Because of their players ages?

Upper final curse + choking (age)

Scar98 [#18]

Why do you say RID might break?
Because of their players ages?

Age is one of the factors among many. Some players will most certainly be poached. No point in waiting another whole year to get a shot at winning ascension when you can directly get a ticket to franchised teams.

I just want the winner of this to win ascension

fuck, riddle and fennel on final? I can't take this shit. why can't riot give two slot for both teams bro

Would love to see the winner of this match win Ascension. My heart leans towards Riddle Order.

RID 5 - 0
i just don't want to see FL at Ascension

is there tech pause?

KInggZYnn [#25]

is there tech pause?

Not really , the match hasn't started yet

whats taking them so long to start?

bubblecattxx [#27]

whats taking them so long to start?

They want to showcase the venue it seems

IonlywatchvcjXD [#28]

They want to showcase the venue it seems

that doesnt make sense, they usually have a section for that in between maps, and the casters have been yapping for half an hour already

bubblecattxx [#29]

that doesnt make sense, they usually have a section for that in between maps, and the casters have been yapping for half an hour already

Idk lol there's probably something behind the scene 😅

bro the stream started 2 hrs ago hurry it up bro

Motendo4ever [#1]

RIddel order 3-0

Riddle Order 3-1 Fennel seeds 🗿

They are trolling comps now 😭

Any english watchparty?

if FL loses to this troll ass comp then its joever

I actually REALLY like this comp, allows every player to just send smokes and then shoot the fuck out of their gun, basically a warmup, if they dont shoot they lose if they do this might look insane

the caster just said that the riddle's comp was a miss pick from riddle lol
but they weren't allowed to remake it cuz they already saw fennel's comp
all of them are on wrong agents LMAO

sherry_987 [#37]

the caster just said that the riddle's comp was a miss pick from riddle lol
but they weren't allowed to remake it cuz they already saw fennel's comp
all of them are on wrong agents LMAO

no way

sherry_987 [#37]

the caster just said that the riddle's comp was a miss pick from riddle lol
but they weren't allowed to remake it cuz they already saw fennel's comp
all of them are on wrong agents LMAO

This is fking joke lmao, how you miss pick in grandfinal, no wonder i feel weird with this comp

EyeZick [#36]

I actually REALLY like this comp, allows every player to just send smokes and then shoot the fuck out of their gun, basically a warmup, if they dont shoot they lose if they do this might look insane

xD theyre just misspicked

Kim_Minjii [#39]

This is fking joke lmao, how you miss pick in grandfinal, no wonder i feel weird with this comp

pretty sure riddle thought it was test like they usually do. IT happens time to time like how SMG did in GC masters

really fennel? u guys losing to misspicked comps?

RIDDLE GIVE ONE WIN ON FENNEL JUST TO SHOW MERCY

imagine if RID just gets tilted off the face of earth cuz of this miss pick

Surely not right? xD

If the miss pick impact the ascension slot, its really bad bad lose...

Really poorly handled by the TO. All it takes to prevent this is to communicate with the teams.It is already hard coming from the upper bracket without any stage experience, but this seals the deal. Can't imagine their current mental after giving away a map.

tennn def don't want to get kill without headshot. 50%hs is crazy

Tf is this caedye wanna run and gun with bulldog

It’s over for riddle order
Imagine losing cause you picked a troll comp map 1

3-1 or 3-2 for riddle =)

yall if zeta needed an initiator for this season they should've gotten xdll ong

TENNN my king

The inexperience finally showing at the worst time possible...

Xdll fried RID so hard

I think RID is mentally done, there's no way a reverse sweep can happen with 3 rookies against a FL who went through so many full BO5s

_amBrian [#51]

yall if zeta needed an initiator for this season they should've gotten xdll ong

no, he got a temporal ban for boosting accounts on ranked he couldnt play at all

3-2 RID copium

The upper final curse never dies unfortunately 😭

number_one_lakia_fan [#49]

It’s over for riddle order
Imagine losing cause you picked a troll comp map 1

Yeahh losing cause wrong pick wis the worst, rid can wjn 1 map if seoldam use jett

koromast [#55]

no, he got a temporal ban for boosting accounts on ranked he couldnt play at all

ah mb

still cracked tho

i heckin love TENNN🗣️💯 LFGGGGGGGG

IonlywatchvcjXD [#57]

The upper final curse never dies unfortunately 😭

upper final thing kinda suck. cuz lower get all experience and upper doesn't. ofc they forget how to win

killurself [#61]

upper final thing kinda suck. cuz lower get all experience and upper doesn't. ofc they forget how to win

upper winner gets map ban advantage though, but ofc that advantage is gone when you troll agent picks

bubblecattxx [#54]

Xdll fried RID so hard

I think RID is mentally done, there's no way a reverse sweep can happen with 3 rookies against a FL who went through so many full BO5s

Frfr, for riddle rookies +seoldam this might be one of their most important match yet, but for FL this is just Monday

But tbf I don't think the team's mental is that down tho

bubblecattxx [#62]

upper winner gets map ban advantage though, but ofc that advantage is gone when you troll agent picks

nah how the f can rid troll like that😹 and it isn't riots fault😹🙏

Yo I didn’t watch map 1 and 2 what happened

i know RID got sweeped map 2 but not being to remake haven is just fucked, im hoping a reverse sweep makes up for it

munestar [#66]

i know RID got sweeped map 2 but not being to remake haven is just fucked, im hoping a reverse sweep makes up for it

Bruh these bots aint winning a single map..

Edit: (Thank god they won, reverse jinxed it all the way. )

i heckin love TENNN

RID just lose every of ecoed?

They are so badddd.

ayo RID choke grandfinals?? surely not no?

koromast [#55]

no, he got a temporal ban for boosting accounts on ranked he couldnt play at all

Was the ban only for the previous off-season? Can he be picked up if FL doesn't win Ascension?

Washed team

highlyte [#71]

Was the ban only for the previous off-season? Can he be picked up if FL doesn't win Ascension?

yes, he is unbanned since he came back to play he was banned from playing the game in general but now he is good

Holy shit Riddle on the first two maps were actually SO BAD they're legit playing either tilted or nervous as fuck, running and gunning, shaky shots, losing to classics, what is happening?

kekw why ppl expect rid gonna win this match? ofc fennel with their experience gonna win easily especially on LAN

I heard the caster said something something about client. I assume there's something wrong with the client?

WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON HERE

third map but feels like already 5 map lmao

WTF MY RID CHOKE

Riddle celebrating like they won the series ... Reverse incoming?

I REFUSE TO BELIEVE THEIR MENTAL IS BAD LMAO , THEY LOOK AWFULY JOYOUS ON STAGE

RID got saved by those tech pause

3:2 Reverse sweep LFG

Reverse sweep begin

tech pause esports

Fennel gentleman's sweep 3-1

IonlywatchvcjXD [#7]

Before you guys jump into conclusion on how this match will go , just know that these past 3 splits teams that won upper finals never won grand finals 😭

https://liquipedia.net/valorant/VCL/2023/Japan/Split_1

https://liquipedia.net/valorant/VCL/2023/Japan/Split_2

https://liquipedia.net/valorant/VCL/2024/Japan/Split_1

Let's hope that riddle doesn't fall to the same curse

RIDDLE REALLY SAID RIDDLE ME THIS FENNEL AND BROKE THE CURSE 🔥🔥🔥

it looks like the curse is going to continue

1-5 to 7-5 FENNEL NOT LIKE THIS UGH XD

RIDwin

IonlywatchvcjXD [#63]

Frfr, for riddle rookies +seoldam this might be one of their most important match yet, but for FL this is just Monday

But tbf I don't think the team's mental is that down tho

ok i take back my comment, the long tech pause on bind really helped them to reset mental

kekw 8-6 lead on third map, long tech pause now losing. great choke script

insane throw from riddle round 23

This team always losing eco

Derpp [#92]

insane throw from riddle round 23

i watch this game and yeah SPG looks a cut above both teams. FS could challenge them tho

Watching this remind me of how good Seoldam used to be, he wasted his talent by taking a unnecessary break thus fucked up his career

Imagine if they didn't trolled comp in map one >.>

reverse sweep incoming

Quanzhing [#96]

Imagine if they didn't trolled comp in map one >.>

exactly this (not really a troll by the way, it was a miss-pick) T^T if they won that, it could be a really high boost of their confidence but thank goodness they stand still until the 4th map

Quanzhing [#96]

Imagine if they didn't trolled comp in map one >.>

haven gonna haunt them for life if they don't win the last map

shellyy [#98]

exactly this (not really a troll by the way, it was a miss-pick) T^T if they won that, it could be a really high boost of their confidence but thank goodness they stand still until the 4th map

if they won that this would be 3-1 kekw

T1 seoldam would feed families

cyk [#95]

Watching this remind me of how good Seoldam used to be, he wasted his talent by taking a unnecessary break thus fucked up his career

jett diffed the fuck out of syouta on ascent. if only he got to play jett on haven. his stats are so close to syouta's despite picking a troll agent on haven lol

Fyujin [#101]

T1 seoldam would feed families

Hell no

I really hope they host a master or champions event in Japan again. It would be so hype

archetype [#94]

i watch this game and yeah SPG looks a cut above both teams. FS could challenge them tho

yea both look kinda mid, what a falloff from VCJ

Derpp [#105]

yea both look kinda mid, what a falloff from VCJ

yeah tbh i wasn't particularly impressed with either team, and SPG looks so fucking impressive idea wise. Don't think i've been so big on a KR team before, but FS doesn't look bad either

Vcj is so mid,pac jp=amer Br

archetype [#100]

if they won that this would be 3-1 kekw

sadly it's only an if :( and if they lose the series, just like what #99 said ;-;

shellyy [#108]

sadly it's only an if :( and if they lose the series, just like what #99 said ;-;

seoldam has lost haven to lose a defining grand finals to send them to a big competition before in a 5 map nailbiter...

the last time FL played Icebox, it was during the start of split 2 when they weren't performing well. And yet they still believe this no duelist icebox will work? I like RID chances here

Reverse sweep

Oh no dont choke now FL

Bro FL looked so dejected 😭

What a comeback by Riddle, after that disastrous misspick on map one and the very one sided map two, you probably could have said this match is done. But those young players showed immense fortitude to make this reverse sweep even possible. Eight more rounds and Riddle would be the first ever Japanese team to actually win coming from the upper bracket.

Fyujin [#101]

T1 seoldam would feed families

0 win

come on man you can't choke like this FL

Poor Syouta man. I really hope he gets picked up in T1 if they can't come back.

Nice tech pause to prove that all jp val is not working

yehfela [#118]

Nice tech pause to prove that all jp val is not working

Sure. But how much?

Riddle order lets gooooo!! Fuck dfm

Whatever happens this match, I hope the Fennel players are getting signed. Especially Syouta, Xdll and CLZ who are all better players than the DFM ones aside from Meiy.

what a game honestly

GG

fuck. why does fennel always lose on finals bro

What a series.

gg, was fun to watch

RIDORU OODA

Prontera [#119]

Sure. But how much?

Except meiy core comp

nice comeback from riddle.. hopefully syouta gets signed because he deserves more

KlobotXXL [#75]

kekw why ppl expect rid gonna win this match? ofc fennel with their experience gonna win easily especially on LAN

holy i jinxed them

killurself [#124]

fuck. why does fennel always lose on finals bro

Hour and a half tech pause came in clutch I guess

Nyaatro [#131]

Hour and a half tech pause came in clutch I guess

nah i really hate riot for this. i hate fennel for their fanbase but fennel players deserved

This is the better output, honestly. With fennel loss, it gives more opportunity for zeta or dfm to pouch players from fennel.

Put respect in Joxjo's Name! This guy igl'd three different teams and won a regional trophy with all three of them.

archetype [#94]

i watch this game and yeah SPG looks a cut above both teams. FS could challenge them tho

We'll see if that's down to VCJ being more competitive/VCK having more mid teams or if they really are better. Ascension will tell

bubblecattxx [#54]

Xdll fried RID so hard

I think RID is mentally done, there's no way a reverse sweep can happen with 3 rookies against a FL who went through so many full BO5s

well well well

_Nonsense [#112]

Oh no dont choke now FL

Nah they've choked right after the long ass pause from the tournament organizing committee 😭

Incredible comeback for Riddle. Good luck to them on their Ascension!
GGNT FENNEL
I hope ZETA and DFM find suitable players in this team.

Banger match I hope RID wins ascension and nt FL I hope they make it out next year if their core sticks around

bilim [#87]

it looks like the curse is going to continue

you sure about that?

Laz is smiling. He's so proud of his kouhais 😭

GeorgeGera [#70]

ayo RID choke grandfinals?? surely not no?

Didn't get to watch the game thank god they won.

ZekaTheGoat [#134]

Put respect in Joxjo's Name! This guy igl'd three different teams and won a regional trophy with all three of them.

hes truly the mvp

RA621H [#135]

We'll see if that's down to VCJ being more competitive/VCK having more mid teams or if they really are better. Ascension will tell

VCJ is more competitive than VCK 100%, and VCK does have more mid teams than VCJ.
And yes, only Ascension will tell. But according to the eye-test, I just find more layers to SPG than to Riddle. I actually think if Fennel won they would have a better chance.

I know everyone here is saying FL players should be poached but I personally think they should stick together (although it's selfish of me to ask them to sit another year) because it's better for the scene.

arin2016 [#145]

I know everyone here is saying FL players should be poached but I personally think they should stick together (although it's selfish of me to ask them to sit another year) because it's better for the scene.

no. It is absolutely terrible for the scene if these players stick around cuz it would hinder the success of Tier 1(some of them belong in Tier1) and appearance of new young talents that could be taking their spots.

Aielt [#146]

no. It is absolutely terrible for the scene if these players stick around cuz it would hinder the success of Tier 1(some of them belong in Tier1) and appearance of new young talents that could be taking their spots.

ZETA and DFM both have the capabilities of turning a mid player into a good player because of their abundance of resources. Rather than poaching players who have already proven themselves, they should take players who are mid and turn them into good players.

There is plenty of spots left in JP VCL for new talents to sprout in. Just because FL is there doesn't mean that new talents won't show up.

Also, taking players who perform well and slapping them together in a roster has never worked. You have to see if the team even gels first. They can't just take the good performing players from each team and then put them together and tell them to win.

psyber [#67]

Bruh these bots aint winning a single map..

Edit: (Thank god they won, reverse jinxed it all the way. )

LMAO

killurself [#132]

nah i really hate riot for this. i hate fennel for their fanbase but fennel players deserved

Yo did FL's fans is toxic or something cause I don't know about the fans

BoonRealKua [#149]

Yo did FL's fans is toxic or something cause I don't know about the fans

there's too much fangirls who's annoying as fuck.

arin2016 [#147]

ZETA and DFM both have the capabilities of turning a mid player into a good player because of their abundance of resources. Rather than poaching players who have already proven themselves, they should take players who are mid and turn them into good players.

There is plenty of spots left in JP VCL for new talents to sprout in. Just because FL is there doesn't mean that new talents won't show up.

Also, taking players who perform well and slapping them together in a roster has never worked. You have to see if the team even gels first. They can't just take the good performing players from each team and then put them together and tell them to win.

in that case shouldn't ZETA just sign the whole of Fennel? Hiroronn already played and won split 1 with the Fennel boys last year. The chemistry is there already, and there shouldn't be much role issues, then send Dep/SugarZero to DFM so that Meiy actually has teammates who can keep up with him

thank you riddle and fennel

absolutely legendary grand final

lady_ant [#3]

Riddle need to win this and ascension. Otherwise, the same thing will happen again. Seoldam's teammate gets scouted and seoldam left alone. Worst case, seoldam probably retire.

not enough. caedye and aace already get scouted by zeta. the only thing that can stop them from leaving is winning ascension. this team is strong they need to stick together.

killurself [#150]

there's too much fangirls who's annoying as fuck.

I guess same problem as PRX?

Riddle me this Fennel ah result
W match in all honesty

Denjisideals [#155]

Riddle me this Fennel ah result
W match in all honesty

I choked my water when reading this 🤣

lets gooo aceee

damn seoldam really grinding his way back up

a match for the ages, both teams honestly deserve a place in ascension

archetype [#102]

jett diffed the fuck out of syouta on ascent. if only he got to play jett on haven. his stats are so close to syouta's despite picking a troll agent on haven lol

Syouta didn't play his actual agents either. Also he didn't diff syouta that much in ascent lol.

Absolute Cinema

Someone wanna tell me wtf happened to the stats on map 3?