tier2 JP/APAC > NA tier1

It's simple math

imagine what Yatsuka would do against those frauds

If Aace and Hals don't go to tier1, then pls disband both Zeta and DFM as orgs in VCT

IDC if Fennel is playing with 3subs, why the fuck are their subs actual bots and dropping less than 10kills. Actual bot gameplay, not even real players

https://x.com/VCTScrims/status/1984468715740573810

I just hope it is a 10man or some shit, 4 duelist players and no igl

they swapped comps every single split and completely fucked up the meta for Ascension. Their roles weren't clear at all, having 3 different duelist players in one tournament. The igling and coaching took a dumpster dive in Ascension for no reason.

I checked the stats, Yatsuka had the 2nd best stats for the year in Riddle with a 1.08 rating in 1414 rounds played,
first is Seoldam with 1.16 and we know he choked both Ascensions being just incredibly stupid and losing them games on his own.
Caedye had a 1.05 rating, he is close to Yatsuka but he wasn't near as clutch.

Yatsuka is just the better player by default just with him making less individual mistakes and having imo the better agent pool. Both are flexible players and very hardworking, wouldn't be surprised if they make tier1 at some point in their career.

with how JP fell off this year I wouldn't be surprised though. Our last hope is dfm and their history is even worse than Zeta

The roster doesn't have any igl and 4 duelist players, my god eko got kicked for not being able to play any other agents on Neon on a high lvl. I would fucking cry if this is the real Zeta roster

Yatsuka was by far their best player in the tournament leading up to Ascension. Seoldam doesn't count since he is a lan choker, Caedye has good aim but makes too many mistakes individually. I watched them all year, they played pretty bad in split3, so I didn't really expect anything in Ascension.

there is no way players like Aace and Yatsuka wouldn't want to play in tier1 with how much time they spend to actually to make Ascension in the last two years.

The roster also just doesn't make any sense since they have no igl? who the fucks igls on that team with 4 Duelist in Dep, Absol, Honeybunny and eko???

they were spotted scrimming with them, vct scrims on twitter. I just hope this is only trials and not the real roster
It doesn't make sense at all since they have no igl

You are giving way too much credibility to Zeta with their ass coaching and terrible management. It's more likely they just didn't spend the money to buy them out from Riddle and Fennel.

I hope at least DFM takes one of the players, those were by far the 3 best Japanese players in tier2 this year.

Bunny struggled in the academy team, he wouldn't survive in tier1

probably about to do very bad things to himself. Like Absol is a great talent but not tier1 lvl. Honeybunny looked like ass in tier2, eko never delivered in tier1

Roster is absolute ass

this roster not winning a single game

Where the fuck is Aace and Hals or Yatsuka????

Does Naos have coaches? Those comps and the roles of their players are such a fuck up.

congrats to MDR, they are just the way better team, better coaching and better igling does usually win you games.

the Itopata hatewatch never has been easier.

I am just sad that it has to be Fokus that was destroyed by him

Fokus looks terrbly coached since Itopota joined ngl, zero teamplay. They were always a team that relies on individual fragging but goddamn they look like pure ass rn.

Samed looks really bad, is there any reason why hoody got dropped?

they also need to import good coaches, but yeah the rosters aren't that bad on paper. Lack of igling hurts them tho

They need good coaches and they definitely cannot rely on players like Seoldam anymore, he is regionally good, but internationally he just never showed up despite all of his premise, it doesn't help that they forced the Neon comps. I am so disappointed that they forced those comps who stopped working since before the last patch of Valorant, it almost seems like they didn't watch Champions at all this year, learning nothing from the teams in it.

JoxJo and Vorz completely trolled the prep, I just don't understand why they changed so much of their gameplay and their identity in JP. They didn't play this fast and you just see the inexperience. Again we just get disappointed by JP, they are chokers in internationals and the coaching was really bad in comparison to other regions. Seoldam also just another disasterclass choke when it matters the most, it doesn't matter if he dominates JP and then starts trolling on LAN when it matters, they cannot rely on him.

This fucker didn't change any of his gameplans on defense, it is the same plan on every map even tho they play against different comps. Playing retake against a fucking Viper is fucking stupid, genuinely one of the least adaptable coaches in the world.

Dogshit coaching in tier1. Like the DFM coach is nepo pick from 2017 who did nothing in tier2-3 let alone tier1 one, Melofovia is legendary paycheck stealer at this point.

The coaches are in tier2 but Zeta and DFM literally haven't ever tried poaching them for some reason, even tho the Jadeite, Scarz old Fennels and especially Riddle coaching staff is great.

Aace and Hals are ready for tier1, Fennel as a team was worse than Riddle but you see the individual talent of the team.

That map 1 was really just a complete wash. This is a quick 3-0 by NFX if Fennel continues playing like that. Insane amount of individual mistakes by Fennel, especially by Neth, he alone was responsible for 3-5 that they lost. If you want to show how good you are, then you absolutely cannot underperform on a big stage like this.

seokJ has been criminally bad this entire split, don't think he is made to being a pro player yet. Really bad util, awareness or aim just from watching him play and the stats even show it. There is a lot of ranked talents on the leaderboard in Apac, I wonder if GenG picks up someone like Ray or Dark.

They have tons of orgs still competing in premier. Murash played the wrong roles in qualifiers, they swapped TENNN and Ask now and look way better and Crest had so much potential, they could have been a top4 team in the region. Hopefully the format changes or they just let 2-4 more teams in. The orgs are still investing but if they don't have success in Ascension it could look very bad for next year, especially if the tier1 representation continues to be so bad.

but making it impossible to qualify just doesn't reward new upcoming teams, the format is especially bad since the slots this year were extremely limited because of the academy teams being a waste of slots in the region. As I said last year's Riddle wouldn't have made Ascension or playoffs with this format. The only way to make it more fair is to increase the amount of teams playing in Challengers otherwise you will have two extremely bad teams in the academy rosters just wasting those opportunities.

And they cannot qualify since the format is absolutely stupid for JP, making playoffs from a point system genuinely means that every team that joins in Split3 has no chance to play in playoffs. Riddle wouldn't have been in Ascension last year with this format when they made their run.

The Riddle players were genuinely inting in the game, baffling individual decisions. If they play like this in Ascension they don't even have a chance to win a series.

Delight is playing incredible high lvl Valorant.

I am kinda disappointed by the coaching staff of Crest again, how do you allow delight to ban both maps you won against them yesterday??? Like genuinely they had no chance after the veto, Delight has such better teamplay, great util, good comms and incredible macro for a tier2 team.

their teams weren't that well balanced they had some really bad players in previous iterations. Anyways their coaching is still the biggest issue and calling, they are so slow and don't have the best map understanding. So far they beat most teams because of sheer individual firepower.

https://www.twitch.tv/kato_junichi0817/clip/ShortCooperativeSheepPermaSmug-8avkGOaMVdJ7u-H4 this clip is fucking insane

He was even their most consistent player when the team fell apart, really sad for him. He deserves a way better team, that uses him correctly.

Now this is real drama with concrete evidence, we are so fucking back.
Tournament organizers breaking competitive integrity is back on the menu boys.

https://x.com/TrickAIM/status/1926352245995548897

So what do we think about his point of view of the video?

Riot and Jake Sins killed Pacific tier2

How long will be the video from Sgares if he takes so long to edit it? Dude might actually burn tier2 NA down with this.

what is this stupid argument. You are making comparisons towards an ongoing case where authorities literally are investigating and found actual proof towards diddy being an actual leader of a sex trafficking ring
and literally Flor, where mentally unstable children are writing things up on Twitter without handling it with proper authorities.

WTF ARE YOU EVEN ON ABOUT.

I am not trusting anyone, but this person knew who brick was before it was revealed by the third party Olivia. sombrosol is Brick, WHICH WASN'T REVEALED BEFOREHAND.
Everyone cannot trust random discord messages, but in this whole mess there just not a lot of evidence provided by either party and just back and forths between chat messages.

it is about the swatting stuff itself, which was revealed afterwards. I didn't mean the initial accusations, those are different things. I am probably reading too much into this tho.

time to learn Chinese buddy.

anyone can create it but the problem is that they knew whole situation before everything was revealed?

We never knew about Flor getting doxxed before we heard more of the side of Flor, the tweet was made a week ago.
I at least wouldn't be biased about anyone rn, this whole situation reeks a lot. Also you imply that things leaked by Brick and Ka_rie can also be something that anyone can create since they are discord messages themselves.

I have found something else.
https://x.com/user1141594/status/1923751480281936382 There is also this person who knew something beforehand about ka_rie and Brick "sombresol" and that they were planning this for a while ago. It implies that ka_rie and brick leaked the real phone number of Flor once before which lead to doxxing and swatting of Flor before the accusations were made.

Discord screenshots don't mean much but if both accuser and victim run away immediately after getting exposed by another completely different third party, you will lose credibility no matter what.

I am definitely even more confused about the situation now.

Ka_rie deativated her account after another third party came out named Olivia and exposed her and Brick's credibility with a few tweets and chat messages. https://x.com/XX12A6/status/1926095122590056455?t=WOGmes3-GyH4YU8E9hAG9g&s=19 https://x.com/XX12A6/status/1926138993202143254?t=hvE53PjzHke7VIyYlYOaOA&s=19
Take it how you will but it definitely diminishes a bit of the credibility of Ka_rie and Brick at least.

is Shin really better than Proxh though?

ka_rie literally paints herself in a worse picture with those messages and this statement, it is clear those kids are literally not letting anyone proof-read their shit. I ain't trusting anyone in this highschool-fiasco, go to court this shit should have never been public discourse anymore.

I think having a good big crowd, that is invested into the scene is important for the matches to feel important. Playing for money is neat but glory and passion is also a big difference maker.

Let him have some time to cook and finish his masterpiece, this whole thing might burn down the entire tier2 scene, when he drops that bomb.