RIDDLE ORDER vs. FENNEL | Challengers League 2024 Japan: Split 2 | Playoffs | Valorant match

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Challengers League 2024 Japan: Split 2

Playoffs: Grand Final

Sunday, July 28th

1:00 AM EDT

Patch 9.0

RIDDLE ORDER

[1748]

final

3 : 2

vs.

Bo5

FENNEL

[1733]

RID ban Lotus; RID ban Abyss; RID pick Haven; FL pick Sunset; RID pick Bind; FL pick Ascent; Icebox remains

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Valorant Japan

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VODs

Map 1 Map 2

Map 3 Map 4

Map 5

Maps/Stats

Overview

Performance

Economy

Logs (Soon)

All Maps

1 Haven

2 Sunset

3 Bind

4 Ascent

5 Icebox

RIDDLE ORDER

5 / 3

Haven PICK

49:20

FENNEL

7 / 6

RID

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	R^2.0	ACS	K	D	A	+/–	KAST	ADR	HS%	FK	FD	+/–
Seoldam RID	1.30 0.81 1.68	235 167 286	17 5 12	/ 14 7 7 /	5 1 4	+3 -2 +5	62% 56% 67%	151 106 185	24% 17% 27%	4 2 2	1 0 1	+3 +2 +1
Caedye RID	1.03 1.12 0.96	186 192 183	15 8 7	/ 14 6 8 /	6 0 6	+1 +2 -1	71% 56% 83%	116 108 123	29% 25% 32%	1 1 0	3 3 0	-2 -2 0
Aace RID	0.84 0.61 1.02	184 156 205	13 4 9	/ 17 8 9 /	5 5 0	-4 -4 0	62% 78% 50%	136 112 154	26% 27% 25%	1 0 1	2 1 1	-1 -1 0
yatsuka RID	0.76 0.74 0.77	175 166 182	12 5 7	/ 18 8 10 /	4 2 2	-6 -3 -3	57% 56% 58%	129 124 132	30% 40% 24%	2 0 2	3 0 3	-1 0 -1
JoXJo RID	0.49 0.23 0.69	142 119 159	10 4 6	/ 19 9 10 /	5 1 4	-9 -5 -4	67% 56% 75%	90 70 104	24% 17% 29%	2 0 2	2 2 0	0 -2 +2

	R^2.0	ACS	K	D	A	+/–	KAST	ADR	HS%	FK	FD	+/–
CLZ FL	1.45 1.55 1.31	252 234 276	19 10 9	/ 12 6 6 /	9 5 4	+7 +4 +3	90% 92% 89%	173 186 156	28% 31% 24%	3 1 2	0 0 0	+3 +1 +2
TENNN FL	1.33 0.76 2.10	258 166 382	20 7 13	/ 12 8 4 /	3 2 1	+8 -1 +9	67% 58% 78%	162 103 241	50% 47% 52%	5 2 3	3 3 0	+2 -1 +3
SyouTa FL	1.16 1.13 1.19	217 221 214	17 10 7	/ 14 9 5 /	2 1 1	+3 +1 +2	71% 67% 78%	150 155 144	55% 58% 50%	2 1 1	0 0 0	+2 +1 +1
Xdll FL	0.91 0.78 1.09	228 232 224	16 9 7	/ 16 10 6 /	6 4 2	0 -1 +1	67% 67% 67%	149 158 138	43% 46% 38%	0 0 0	3 1 2	-3 -1 -2
GON FL	0.74 0.88 0.56	128 167 76	10 8 2	/ 13 8 5 /	8 4 4	-3 0 -3	67% 67% 67%	86 120 42	35% 35% 33%	1 1 0	4 3 1	-3 -2 -1

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	R^2.0	ACS	K	D	A	+/–	KAST	ADR	HS%	FK	FD	+/–
Seoldam RID	0.88 1.35 1.12	200 196 209	93 38 55	/ 73 40 33 /	22 8 14	+20 -2 +22	77% 73% 81%	127 123 131	23% 22% 24%	17 10 7	11 5 6	+6 +5 +1
Aace RID	1.16 1.01 1.09	204 220 190	89 41 48	/ 78 35 43 /	33 24 9	+11 +6 +5	79% 80% 78%	135 139 130	26% 20% 34%	7 5 2	6 3 3	+1 +2 -1
Caedye RID	1.02 0.83 0.93	174 202 145	77 43 34	/ 79 37 42 /	23 6 17	-2 +6 -8	77% 71% 83%	115 137 94	31% 27% 37%	11 6 5	11 7 4	0 -1 +1
JoXJo RID	1.02 0.85 0.93	164 184 143	76 41 35	/ 82 36 46 /	30 12 18	-6 +5 -11	71% 68% 74%	109 124 94	31% 29% 34%	5 2 3	6 4 2	-1 -2 +1
yatsuka RID	0.76 0.89 0.83	163 160 163	74 27 47	/ 83 40 43 /	26 14 12	-9 -13 +4	73% 70% 76%	112 114 109	32% 28% 36%	14 5 9	12 7 5	+2 -2 +4

	R^2.0	ACS	K	D	A	+/–	KAST	ADR	HS%	FK	FD	+/–
CLZ FL	1.17 1.00 1.09	178 160 193	75 32 43	/ 79 29 50 /	40 19 21	-4 +3 -7	74% 76% 71%	124 122 126	33% 35% 31%	8 4 4	10 3 7	-2 +1 -3
SyouTa FL	1.00 1.11 1.05	196 166 228	95 35 60	/ 79 33 46 /	17 5 12	+16 +2 +14	71% 78% 64%	130 111 150	40% 41% 39%	9 4 5	9 5 4	0 -1 +1
Xdll FL	0.90 1.00 0.95	203 173 224	85 34 51	/ 86 39 47 /	27 14 13	-1 -5 +4	71% 76% 66%	129 114 144	30% 30% 30%	12 2 10	12 5 7	0 -3 +3
TENNN FL	0.73 1.09 0.91	181 145 212	85 31 54	/ 87 37 50 /	13 2 11	-2 -6 +4	69% 67% 71%	123 98 149	36% 42% 33%	12 7 5	12 6 6	0 +1 -1
GON FL	0.84 0.65 0.75	121 130 111	55 27 28	/ 78 33 45 /	33 15 18	-23 -6 -17	68% 69% 66%	78 84 72	28% 28% 29%	5 3 2	11 7 4	-6 -4 -2

RIDDLE ORDER

5 / 3

Sunset PICK

52:25

FENNEL

7 / 6

RID

All

Attack

Defend

	R^2.0	ACS	K	D	A	+/–	KAST	ADR	HS%	FK	FD	+/–
JoXJo RID	1.32 1.41 1.21	263 275 248	20 13 7	/ 14 8 6 /	7 4 3	+6 +5 +1	62% 67% 56%	164 172 155	38% 33% 47%	0 0 0	1 0 1	-1 0 -1
Aace RID	1.18 1.30 1.03	243 226 266	18 9 9	/ 16 7 9 /	6 5 1	+2 +2 0	81% 83% 78%	153 140 172	24% 13% 38%	2 1 1	0 0 0	+2 +1 +1
Seoldam RID	0.77 0.63 0.95	162 163 162	11 6 5	/ 16 10 6 /	4 3 1	-5 -4 -1	81% 83% 78%	102 106 96	22% 19% 27%	2 1 1	1 1 0	+1 0 +1
yatsuka RID	0.72 0.73 0.72	182 207 150	13 8 5	/ 16 10 6 /	3 3 0	-3 -2 -1	62% 58% 67%	124 147 92	34% 30% 45%	3 2 1	4 3 1	-1 -1 0
Caedye RID	0.66 0.58 0.76	205 189 228	14 8 6	/ 19 11 8 /	6 2 4	-5 -3 -2	76% 67% 89%	144 149 137	30% 22% 41%	3 2 1	5 2 3	-2 0 -2

	R^2.0	ACS	K	D	A	+/–	KAST	ADR	HS%	FK	FD	+/–
Xdll FL	1.68 1.37 1.91	377 305 433	27 9 18	/ 16 8 8 /	9 6 3	+11 +1 +10	81% 78% 83%	240 201 270	25% 25% 26%	5 0 5	3 1 2	+2 -1 +3
SyouTa FL	1.29 1.06 1.47	216 164 256	17 5 12	/ 12 5 7 /	5 2 3	+5 0 +5	71% 78% 67%	144 129 156	31% 25% 36%	0 0 0	1 1 0	-1 -1 0
CLZ FL	1.09 1.84 0.52	179 286 99	16 11 5	/ 13 4 9 /	6 4 2	+3 +7 -4	67% 78% 58%	130 195 80	41% 45% 36%	2 2 0	3 1 2	-1 +1 -2
TENNN FL	0.71 0.39 0.96	202 177 222	14 6 8	/ 21 9 12 /	4 0 4	-7 -3 -4	71% 67% 75%	133 107 152	24% 33% 21%	4 3 1	3 1 2	+1 +2 -1
GON FL	0.64 0.71 0.59	120 144 103	7 4 3	/ 14 6 8 /	8 3 5	-7 -2 -5	57% 56% 58%	81 103 66	22% 31% 14%	0 0 0	0 0 0	0 0 0

RIDDLE ORDER

6 / 7

Bind PICK

1:00:35

FENNEL

6 / 5

RID

	R^2.0	ACS	K	D	A	+/–	KAST	ADR	HS%	FK	FD	+/–
Caedye RID	1.23 1.69 0.77	155 311	19 13 6	/ 13 4 9 /	4 2 2	+6 +9 -3	100% 100% 100%	99 198	28% 28%	3 3 0	1 1 0	+2 +2 0
Aace RID	1.21 1.66 0.76	136 273	17 10 7	/ 13 4 9 /	8 5 3	+4 +6 -2	96% 92% 100%	95 190	21% 21%	2 2 0	1 1 0	+1 +1 0
Seoldam RID	0.91 1.04 0.78	73 148	18 7 11	/ 13 5 8 /	9 1 8	+5 +2 +3	88% 75% 100%	52 104	50% 50%	0 0 0	0 0 0	0 0 0
JoXJo RID	0.69 0.71 0.67	53 107	14 5 9	/ 18 6 12 /	2 1 1	-4 -1 -3	83% 67% 100%	34 68	40% 40%	1 1 0	1 1 0	0 0 0
yatsuka RID	0.65 0.66 0.64	31 63	17 2 15	/ 15 5 10 /	8 2 6	+2 -3 +5	83% 67% 100%	20 39	40% 40%	1 1 0	0 0 0	+1 +1 0

	R^2.0	ACS	K	D	A	+/–	KAST	ADR	HS%	FK	FD	+/–
SyouTa FL	0.88 0.86 0.89	85 0 171	23 0 23	/ 16 0 16 /	2 0 2	+7 +7	88% 100% 75%	51 0 102	33% 33%	0 0 0	0 0 0	0 0 0
Xdll FL	0.73 0.86 0.60	72 0 146	15 0 15	/ 16 0 16 /	3 0 3	-1 -1	79% 100% 58%	51 0 102	41% 41%	2 0 2	1 0 1	+1 0 +1
CLZ FL	0.71 0.86 0.56	40 0 80	7 0 7	/ 18 0 18 /	3 0 3	-11 -11	79% 100% 58%	26 0 53	43% 43%	1 0 1	2 0 2	-1 0 -1
TENNN FL	0.65 0.86 0.44	51 0 103	16 0 16	/ 18 0 18 /	2 0 2	-2 -2	83% 100% 67%	34 0 67	8% 8%	0 0 0	2 0 2	-2 0 -2
GON FL	0.63 0.86 0.39	42 0 85	11 0 11	/ 17 0 17 /	5 0 5	-6 -6	83% 100% 67%	31 0 62	38% 38%	0 0 0	2 0 2	-2 0 -2

RIDDLE ORDER

7 / 5 / 2

Ascent PICK

1:06:57

FENNEL

5 / 7 / 0

RID

All

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Defend

	R^2.0	ACS	K	D	A	+/–	KAST	ADR	HS%	FK	FD	+/–
Seoldam RID	1.51 1.04 1.97	315 271 360	29 12 17	/ 16 10 6 /	1 1 0	+13 +2 +11	77% 69% 85%	186 162 209	19% 13% 27%	5 4 1	5 3 2	0 +1 -1
Aace RID	1.28 1.36 1.19	248 260 238	25 13 12	/ 15 8 7 /	8 5 3	+10 +5 +5	81% 85% 77%	151 145 156	34% 28% 41%	1 1 0	2 0 2	-1 +1 -2
JoXJo RID	1.03 1.06 1.00	187 179 196	17 10 7	/ 16 7 9 /	9 2 7	+1 +3 -2	69% 69% 69%	132 135 130	31% 31% 32%	2 1 1	2 1 1	0 0 0
yatsuka RID	0.98 0.81 1.14	177 172 182	13 5 8	/ 16 9 7 /	7 5 2	-3 -4 +1	77% 85% 69%	126 128 124	22% 17% 30%	3 2 1	2 1 1	+1 +1 0
Caedye RID	0.68 0.52 0.83	135 91 180	12 4 8	/ 18 9 9 /	5 2 3	-6 -5 -1	65% 62% 69%	85 60 110	27% 23% 29%	3 0 3	1 0 1	+2 0 +2

	R^2.0	ACS	K	D	A	+/–	KAST	ADR	HS%	FK	FD	+/–
SyouTa FL	1.13 1.10 1.16	271 252 290	24 12 12	/ 19 9 10 /	4 1 3	+5 +3 +2	69% 77% 62%	180 158 202	33% 33% 33%	5 3 2	7 4 3	-2 -1 -1
CLZ FL	0.92 0.60 1.25	193 124 263	15 4 11	/ 22 12 10 /	13 6 7	-7 -8 +1	54% 46% 62%	139 98 180	29% 33% 27%	1 1 0	3 0 3	-2 +1 -3
GON FL	0.89 0.68 1.10	136 124 150	13 6 7	/ 17 10 7 /	7 5 2	-4 -4 0	62% 54% 69%	85 73 97	18% 17% 19%	1 0 1	1 1 0	0 -1 +1
TENNN FL	0.86 0.61 1.11	160 156 164	16 7 9	/ 18 10 8 /	1 0 1	-2 -3 +1	54% 46% 62%	120 106 133	34% 37% 32%	2 1 1	1 0 1	+1 +1 0
Xdll FL	0.67 0.77 0.57	152 193 113	13 9 4	/ 20 11 9 /	7 3 4	-7 -2 -5	62% 69% 54%	94 119 68	19% 23% 14%	3 2 1	2 1 1	+1 +1 0

RIDDLE ORDER

7 / 6

Icebox

55:51

FENNEL

5 / 4

RID

All

Attack

Defend

	R^2.0	ACS	K	D	A	+/–	KAST	ADR	HS%	FK	FD	+/–
JoXJo RID	1.13 1.61 0.73	177 231 133	15 9 6	/ 15 6 9 /	7 4 3	0 +3 -3	73% 80% 67%	128 170 93	28% 25% 33%	0 0 0	0 0 0	0 0 0
Seoldam RID	1.07 0.86 1.24	217 224 213	18 8 10	/ 14 8 6 /	3 2 1	+4 0 +4	77% 80% 75%	141 130 150	26% 41% 15%	6 3 3	4 1 3	+2 +2 0
Caedye RID	1.05 1.32 0.82	191 241 150	17 10 7	/ 15 7 8 /	2 0 2	+2 +3 -1	73% 70% 75%	140 175 111	41% 36% 47%	1 0 1	1 1 0	0 -1 +1
yatsuka RID	1.02 0.88 1.13	250 197 296	19 7 12	/ 18 8 10 /	4 2 2	+1 -1 +2	82% 80% 83%	167 138 192	46% 38% 52%	5 0 5	3 3 0	+2 -3 +5
Aace RID	0.87 0.66 1.04	210 156 257	16 5 11	/ 17 8 9 /	6 4 2	-1 -3 +2	73% 60% 83%	141 95 178	24% 10% 33%	1 1 0	1 1 0	0 0 0

	R^2.0	ACS	K	D	A	+/–	KAST	ADR	HS%	FK	FD	+/–
CLZ FL	1.33 1.21 1.49	227 189 273	18 7 11	/ 14 7 7 /	9 4 5	+4 0 +4	82% 67% 100%	160 149 173	35% 32% 38%	1 0 1	2 2 0	-1 -2 +1
TENNN FL	1.01 0.96 1.07	235 234 238	19 11 8	/ 18 10 8 /	3 0 3	+1 +1 0	73% 67% 80%	176 174 179	43% 46% 39%	1 1 0	3 2 1	-2 -1 -1
SyouTa FL	0.83 0.85 0.81	189 184 196	14 8 6	/ 18 10 8 /	4 1 3	-4 -2 -2	55% 67% 40%	125 114 137	52% 58% 47%	2 0 2	1 0 1	+1 0 +1
Xdll FL	0.83 0.82 0.84	185 165 210	14 7 7	/ 18 10 8 /	2 1 1	-4 -3 -1	68% 67% 70%	129 114 148	41% 29% 58%	2 0 2	3 2 1	-1 -2 +1
GON FL	0.81 1.04 0.54	179 219 133	14 9 5	/ 17 9 8 /	5 3 2	-3 0 -3	68% 67% 70%	111 129 88	40% 29% 67%	3 2 1	4 3 1	-1 -1 0

Head-to-head

RIDDLE ORDER

FENNEL

VCL 24 Japan: Split 2

Past Matches

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#24

mycool57

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RID 5 - 0
i just don't want to see FL at Ascension

#25

KInggZYnn

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is there tech pause?

#26

IonlywatchvcjXD

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Not really , the match hasn't started yet

#27

bubblecattxx

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whats taking them so long to start?

#28

IonlywatchvcjXD

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They want to showcase the venue it seems

#29

bubblecattxx

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that doesnt make sense, they usually have a section for that in between maps, and the casters have been yapping for half an hour already

#30

IonlywatchvcjXD

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Idk lol there's probably something behind the scene 😅

#31

maxrr

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bro the stream started 2 hrs ago hurry it up bro

#33

IonlywatchvcjXD

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They are trolling comps now 😭

#34

PP12123213123

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Any english watchparty?

#35

bubblecattxx

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if FL loses to this troll ass comp then its joever

#36

EyeZick

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I actually REALLY like this comp, allows every player to just send smokes and then shoot the fuck out of their gun, basically a warmup, if they dont shoot they lose if they do this might look insane

#40

KlobotXXL

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xD theyre just misspicked

#37

sherry_987

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the caster just said that the riddle's comp was a miss pick from riddle lol
but they weren't allowed to remake it cuz they already saw fennel's comp
all of them are on wrong agents LMAO

#38

EyeZick

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no way

#39

Kim_Minjii

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This is fking joke lmao, how you miss pick in grandfinal, no wonder i feel weird with this comp

#41

Aielt

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pretty sure riddle thought it was test like they usually do. IT happens time to time like how SMG did in GC masters

#42

KlobotXXL

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really fennel? u guys losing to misspicked comps?

#43

Hewru

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RIDDLE GIVE ONE WIN ON FENNEL JUST TO SHOW MERCY

#44

bubblecattxx

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imagine if RID just gets tilted off the face of earth cuz of this miss pick

Surely not right? xD

#45

Kim_Minjii

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If the miss pick impact the ascension slot, its really bad bad lose...

#46

C310

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Really poorly handled by the TO. All it takes to prevent this is to communicate with the teams.It is already hard coming from the upper bracket without any stage experience, but this seals the deal. Can't imagine their current mental after giving away a map.

#47

killurself

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tennn def don't want to get kill without headshot. 50%hs is crazy

#48

Kim_Minjii

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Tf is this caedye wanna run and gun with bulldog

#49

number_one_lakia_fan

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It’s over for riddle order
Imagine losing cause you picked a troll comp map 1

#58

Kim_Minjii

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Yeahh losing cause wrong pick wis the worst, rid can wjn 1 map if seoldam use jett

#50

R1nkle

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3-1 or 3-2 for riddle =)

#51

_amBrian

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yall if zeta needed an initiator for this season they should've gotten xdll ong

#55

koromast

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no, he got a temporal ban for boosting accounts on ranked he couldnt play at all

#59

_amBrian

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ah mb

still cracked tho

#71

highlyte

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Was the ban only for the previous off-season? Can he be picked up if FL doesn't win Ascension?

#73

koromast

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yes, he is unbanned since he came back to play he was banned from playing the game in general but now he is good

#52

Cosmic_

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TENNN my king

#53

VlrUser

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The inexperience finally showing at the worst time possible...

#54

bubblecattxx

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Xdll fried RID so hard

I think RID is mentally done, there's no way a reverse sweep can happen with 3 rookies against a FL who went through so many full BO5s

#63

IonlywatchvcjXD

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Frfr, for riddle rookies +seoldam this might be one of their most important match yet, but for FL this is just Monday

But tbf I don't think the team's mental is that down tho

#90

bubblecattxx

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ok i take back my comment, the long tech pause on bind really helped them to reset mental

#136

Aayan

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well well well

#56

kiyuri

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3-2 RID copium

#57

IonlywatchvcjXD

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The upper final curse never dies unfortunately 😭

#61

killurself

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upper final thing kinda suck. cuz lower get all experience and upper doesn't. ofc they forget how to win

#62

bubblecattxx

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upper winner gets map ban advantage though, but ofc that advantage is gone when you troll agent picks

#64

killurself

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nah how the f can rid troll like that😹 and it isn't riots fault😹🙏

#60

killurself

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i heckin love TENNN🗣️💯 LFGGGGGGGG

#65

Jihyeok

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Yo I didn’t watch map 1 and 2 what happened

#66

munestar

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i know RID got sweeped map 2 but not being to remake haven is just fucked, im hoping a reverse sweep makes up for it

#67

psyber

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Bruh these bots aint winning a single map..

Edit: (Thank god they won, reverse jinxed it all the way. )

#148

munestar

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LMAO

#68

colZ

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i heckin love TENNN

#69

atid555

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RID just lose every of ecoed?

They are so badddd.

#70

GeorgeGera

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ayo RID choke grandfinals?? surely not no?

#142

GeorgeGera

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Didn't get to watch the game thank god they won.

#72

Diablo74

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Washed team

#74

charleser

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Holy shit Riddle on the first two maps were actually SO BAD they're legit playing either tilted or nervous as fuck, running and gunning, shaky shots, losing to classics, what is happening?

#75

KlobotXXL

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kekw why ppl expect rid gonna win this match? ofc fennel with their experience gonna win easily especially on LAN

#130

KlobotXXL

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holy i jinxed them

#76

IonlywatchvcjXD

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I heard the caster said something something about client. I assume there's something wrong with the client?

#77

ayayaay

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WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON HERE

#78

KlobotXXL

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third map but feels like already 5 map lmao

#79

mycool57

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WTF MY RID CHOKE

#80

Quannn

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Riddle celebrating like they won the series ... Reverse incoming?

#81

IonlywatchvcjXD

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I REFUSE TO BELIEVE THEIR MENTAL IS BAD LMAO , THEY LOOK AWFULY JOYOUS ON STAGE

#82

killurself

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RID got saved by those tech pause

#83

jojo57

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3:2 Reverse sweep LFG

#84

yehfela

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Reverse sweep begin

#85

mycool57

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tech pause esports

#86

mstrpandaddy

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Fennel gentleman's sweep 3-1

#88

mstrpandaddy

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1-5 to 7-5 FENNEL NOT LIKE THIS UGH XD

#89

yehfela

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RIDwin

#91

KlobotXXL

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kekw 8-6 lead on third map, long tech pause now losing. great choke script

#92

Derpp

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insane throw from riddle round 23

#94

archetype

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i watch this game and yeah SPG looks a cut above both teams. FS could challenge them tho

#105

Derpp

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yea both look kinda mid, what a falloff from VCJ

#106

archetype

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yeah tbh i wasn't particularly impressed with either team, and SPG looks so fucking impressive idea wise. Don't think i've been so big on a KR team before, but FS doesn't look bad either

#135

RA621H

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We'll see if that's down to VCJ being more competitive/VCK having more mid teams or if they really are better. Ascension will tell

#144

archetype

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VCJ is more competitive than VCK 100%, and VCK does have more mid teams than VCJ.
And yes, only Ascension will tell. But according to the eye-test, I just find more layers to SPG than to Riddle. I actually think if Fennel won they would have a better chance.

#93

Kim_Minjii

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This team always losing eco

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cyk

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Watching this remind me of how good Seoldam used to be, he wasted his talent by taking a unnecessary break thus fucked up his career

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jett diffed the fuck out of syouta on ascent. if only he got to play jett on haven. his stats are so close to syouta's despite picking a troll agent on haven lol

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Liotakla

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Syouta didn't play his actual agents either. Also he didn't diff syouta that much in ascent lol.

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Quanzhing

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Imagine if they didn't trolled comp in map one >.>

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shellyy

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exactly this (not really a troll by the way, it was a miss-pick) T^T if they won that, it could be a really high boost of their confidence but thank goodness they stand still until the 4th map

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archetype

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if they won that this would be 3-1 kekw

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sadly it's only an if :( and if they lose the series, just like what #99 said ;-;

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archetype

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seoldam has lost haven to lose a defining grand finals to send them to a big competition before in a 5 map nailbiter...

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haven gonna haunt them for life if they don't win the last map

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nonchalantasian

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reverse sweep incoming

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Fyujin

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T1 seoldam would feed families

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toofan1

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Hell no

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ahdd

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0 win

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aaeni

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I really hope they host a master or champions event in Japan again. It would be so hype

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yehfela

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Vcj is so mid,pac jp=amer Br

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bubblecattxx

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the last time FL played Icebox, it was during the start of split 2 when they weren't performing well. And yet they still believe this no duelist icebox will work? I like RID chances here

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Diablo74

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Reverse sweep

#112

_Nonsense

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Oh no dont choke now FL

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BoonRealKua

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Nah they've choked right after the long ass pause from the tournament organizing committee 😭

#113

IonlywatchvcjXD

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Bro FL looked so dejected 😭

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C310

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What a comeback by Riddle, after that disastrous misspick on map one and the very one sided map two, you probably could have said this match is done. But those young players showed immense fortitude to make this reverse sweep even possible. Eight more rounds and Riddle would be the first ever Japanese team to actually win coming from the upper bracket.

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come on man you can't choke like this FL

#117

Hachi899

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Poor Syouta man. I really hope he gets picked up in T1 if they can't come back.

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yehfela

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Nice tech pause to prove that all jp val is not working

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Prontera

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Sure. But how much?

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yehfela

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Except meiy core comp

#120

Prontera

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Riddle order lets gooooo!! Fuck dfm

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C310

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Whatever happens this match, I hope the Fennel players are getting signed. Especially Syouta, Xdll and CLZ who are all better players than the DFM ones aside from Meiy.

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Lulwy

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what a game honestly

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kiyuri

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killurself

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fuck. why does fennel always lose on finals bro

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Hour and a half tech pause came in clutch I guess

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killurself

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nah i really hate riot for this. i hate fennel for their fanbase but fennel players deserved

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BoonRealKua

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Yo did FL's fans is toxic or something cause I don't know about the fans

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killurself

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there's too much fangirls who's annoying as fuck.

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RA621H

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I guess same problem as PRX?

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What a series.

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cyk

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gg, was fun to watch

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wololo___

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RIDORU OODA

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riorndjjdjs

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nice comeback from riddle.. hopefully syouta gets signed because he deserves more

#133

14mstar

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This is the better output, honestly. With fennel loss, it gives more opportunity for zeta or dfm to pouch players from fennel.

#134

ZekaTheGoat

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Put respect in Joxjo's Name! This guy igl'd three different teams and won a regional trophy with all three of them.

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riorndjjdjs

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hes truly the mvp

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highlyte

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Incredible comeback for Riddle. Good luck to them on their Ascension!
GGNT FENNEL
I hope ZETA and DFM find suitable players in this team.

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2NaCl

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Banger match I hope RID wins ascension and nt FL I hope they make it out next year if their core sticks around

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bubblecattxx

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Laz is smiling. He's so proud of his kouhais 😭

#145

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I know everyone here is saying FL players should be poached but I personally think they should stick together (although it's selfish of me to ask them to sit another year) because it's better for the scene.

#146

Aielt

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no. It is absolutely terrible for the scene if these players stick around cuz it would hinder the success of Tier 1(some of them belong in Tier1) and appearance of new young talents that could be taking their spots.

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arin2016

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ZETA and DFM both have the capabilities of turning a mid player into a good player because of their abundance of resources. Rather than poaching players who have already proven themselves, they should take players who are mid and turn them into good players.

There is plenty of spots left in JP VCL for new talents to sprout in. Just because FL is there doesn't mean that new talents won't show up.

Also, taking players who perform well and slapping them together in a roster has never worked. You have to see if the team even gels first. They can't just take the good performing players from each team and then put them together and tell them to win.

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in that case shouldn't ZETA just sign the whole of Fennel? Hiroronn already played and won split 1 with the Fennel boys last year. The chemistry is there already, and there shouldn't be much role issues, then send Dep/SugarZero to DFM so that Meiy actually has teammates who can keep up with him

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nella3

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thank you riddle and fennel

absolutely legendary grand final

#155

Denjisideals

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Riddle me this Fennel ah result
W match in all honesty

#156

IonlywatchvcjXD

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I choked my water when reading this 🤣

#157

Zeron

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lets gooo aceee

#158

gordonramsay

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damn seoldam really grinding his way back up

#159

hosh

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a match for the ages, both teams honestly deserve a place in ascension

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Absolute Cinema

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catNmouse

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Someone wanna tell me wtf happened to the stats on map 3?