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Champions Tour North America Stage 3: Challengers Playoffs

Main Event: Upper Quarterfinals

Wednesday, August 11th

3:00 PM EDT

Envy

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final

2 : 1

vs.

Bo3

TSM

[1903]

NV ban Split; TSM ban Bind; NV pick Haven; TSM pick Breeze; NV pick Ascent

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Streams

Nerd Street 2

VCT (YT)

VODs

Map 1 Map 2

Map 3

Maps/Stats

Overview

Performance

Economy

Logs (Soon)

All Maps

1 Haven

2 Breeze

3 Ascent

All Kills

First Kills

Op Kills

	WARDELL TSM	bang TSM	LeviathanAG TSM	Subroza TSM	hazed TSM
FiNESSE NV	8 7 +1	11 7 +4	12 3 +9	10 17 -7	12 8 +4
Marved NV	8 12 -4	9 7 +2	5 6 -1	12 6 +6	9 9 +0
Victor NV	8 9 -1	9 6 +3	8 9 -1	11 13 -2	5 6 -1
crashies NV	10 12 -2	5 6 -1	10 7 +3	10 8 +2	11 6 +5
yay NV	14 17 -3	14 3 +11	12 3 +9	9 14 -5	11 7 +4

	WARDELL TSM	bang TSM	LeviathanAG TSM	Subroza TSM	hazed TSM
FiNESSE NV	1 0 +1	2 0 +2		0 3 -3	3 1 +2
Marved NV		3 1 +2	0 1 -1		2 1 +1
Victor NV		1 1 +0	1 1 +0	1 1 +0	1 3 -2
crashies NV	2 2 +0	1 2 -1	0 1 -1	1 1 +0	1 1 +0
yay NV	3 3 +0	2 0 +2	8 0 +8	1 2 -1	4 2 +2

	WARDELL TSM	bang TSM	LeviathanAG TSM	Subroza TSM	hazed TSM
FiNESSE NV	0 3 -3			1 0 +1	0 1 -1
Marved NV	0 3 -3				0 1 -1
Victor NV	0 4 -4
crashies NV	0 6 -6
yay NV	8 8 +0	7 0 +7	8 0 +8	4 0 +4	5 0 +5

	2K	3K	4K	5K	1v1	1v2	ECON	PL	DE
crashies NV	11	1	1		1		49	5	2
Victor NV	10	1	1				46	10	1
Marved NV	7	3	1				50	5	1
FiNESSE NV	9	2	2		1	2	61	4	0
yay NV	9	6					70	2	0
WARDELL TSM	16	2			1	1	56	4	1
hazed TSM	7	1			1		37	3	0
Subroza TSM	11	4		1	1		56	1	0
bang TSM	7	1					39	4	1
LeviathanAG TSM	8	1			1		38	4	2

	WARDELL TSM	bang TSM	LeviathanAG TSM	Subroza TSM	hazed TSM
FiNESSE NV	3 1 +2	3 4 -1	3 0 +3	3 5 -2	4 2 +2
Marved NV	2 5 -3	3 4 -1	3 1 +2	6 0 +6	4 1 +3
Victor NV	3 0 +3	2 2 +0	1 3 -2	4 6 -2	0 3 -3
crashies NV	4 3 +1	2 3 -1	3 3 +0	1 0 +1	6 1 +5
yay NV	4 8 -4	5 1 +4	4 2 +2	4 2 +2	3 2 +1

	WARDELL TSM	bang TSM	LeviathanAG TSM	Subroza TSM	hazed TSM
FiNESSE NV				0 1 -1	2 1 +1
Marved NV		1 0 +1			1 0 +1
Victor NV			0 1 -1	1 1 +0	0 1 -1
crashies NV	0 1 -1	0 1 -1
yay NV	0 1 -1	1 0 +1	3 0 +3	0 1 -1	2 0 +2

	WARDELL TSM	bang TSM	LeviathanAG TSM	Subroza TSM	hazed TSM
FiNESSE NV
Marved NV	0 2 -2
Victor NV
crashies NV	0 2 -2
yay NV	2 4 -2	1 0 +1	2 0 +2	3 0 +3	1 0 +1

	2K	3K	4K	1v1	ECON	PL	DE
crashies NV	5 Round 4 LeviathanAG hazed Round 7 LeviathanAG hazed Round 11 hazed WARDELL crashies Round 14 WARDELL bang Round 18 Subroza bang			1 Round 11 WARDELL	60	2	1
Victor NV	1 Round 2 Subroza bang	1 Round 4 WARDELL Subroza bang			34	3	0
Marved NV	4 Round 8 hazed LeviathanAG Round 9 bang Subroza Round 12 bang Subroza Round 15 hazed Subroza	2 Round 14 Subroza LeviathanAG hazed Round 17 bang LeviathanAG hazed			68	2	1
FiNESSE NV	5 Round 6 hazed Subroza Round 10 LeviathanAG WARDELL Round 11 bang Subroza Round 13 hazed Subroza Round 18 LeviathanAG WARDELL		1 Round 20 hazed bang LeviathanAG WARDELL		70	1	0
yay NV	2 Round 9 LeviathanAG WARDELL Round 10 bang Subroza	4 Round 5 hazed bang WARDELL Round 7 Subroza WARDELL bang Round 13 bang WARDELL LeviathanAG Round 19 LeviathanAG hazed bang			74	1	0
WARDELL TSM	5 Round 7 Marved crashies Round 11 Marved FiNESSE Round 12 yay Marved Round 16 yay Marved Round 18 yay Marved			1 Round 12 Marved	51	1	1
hazed TSM	2 Round 2 FiNESSE Victor Round 11 Victor yay				37	1	0
Subroza TSM	3 Round 3 FiNESSE Victor Round 12 Victor FiNESSE Round 19 FiNESSE Victor	1 Round 15 FiNESSE yay Victor			46	0	0
bang TSM	4 Round 2 crashies Marved Round 3 yay Marved Round 5 FiNESSE Marved Round 15 crashies Marved	1 Round 16 crashies Victor FiNESSE			55	1	0
LeviathanAG TSM	3 Round 1 Victor crashies Round 5 crashies yay Round 13 Marved Victor			1 Round 5 yay	45	1	1

	WARDELL TSM	bang TSM	LeviathanAG TSM	Subroza TSM	hazed TSM
FiNESSE NV	4 3 +1	5 0 +5	3 2 +1	5 8 -3	4 5 -1
Marved NV	5 2 +3	5 2 +3	2 2 +0	2 1 +1	3 7 -4
Victor NV	1 5 -4	3 1 +2	3 5 -2	4 2 +2	2 2 +0
crashies NV	2 6 -4	1 1 +0	3 1 +2	2 7 -5	3 2 +1
yay NV	4 8 -4	5 0 +5	6 1 +5	3 5 -2	2 4 -2

	WARDELL TSM	bang TSM	LeviathanAG TSM	Subroza TSM	hazed TSM
FiNESSE NV	1 0 +1	1 0 +1		0 2 -2
Marved NV		1 0 +1			0 1 -1
Victor NV		1 0 +1			0 1 -1
crashies NV	1 1 +0		0 1 -1	0 1 -1
yay NV	1 2 -1	1 0 +1	5 0 +5	1 0 +1	0 2 -2

	WARDELL TSM	bang TSM	LeviathanAG TSM	Subroza TSM	hazed TSM
FiNESSE NV	0 3 -3				0 1 -1
Marved NV	0 1 -1				0 1 -1
Victor NV	0 3 -3
crashies NV	0 3 -3
yay NV	2 3 -1	2 0 +2	5 0 +5		1 0 +1

	2K	3K	4K	1v1	1v2	ECON	PL	DE
crashies NV			1 Round 10 hazed bang LeviathanAG WARDELL			35	0	0
Victor NV	3 Round 19 bang Subroza Round 20 LeviathanAG hazed Round 24 bang Subroza					38	5	0
Marved NV	2 Round 8 bang WARDELL Marved Round 13 hazed WARDELL	1 Round 22 LeviathanAG WARDELL hazed	1 Round 21 hazed bang Subroza WARDELL			52	3	0
FiNESSE NV	3 Round 8 Subroza hazed Round 16 hazed WARDELL FiNESSE Round 22 Subroza bang	1 Round 17 hazed WARDELL Subroza	1 Round 4 WARDELL Subroza bang LeviathanAG	1 Round 22 bang	1 Round 16 WARDELL hazed	58	2	0
yay NV	3 Round 16 LeviathanAG bang Round 18 LeviathanAG hazed Round 20 WARDELL bang					60	0	0
WARDELL TSM	8 Round 2 Victor crashies Round 5 yay Victor Round 8 Victor yay Round 9 crashies yay Round 10 FiNESSE yay Round 18 Marved crashies Round 22 yay Victor Round 24 crashies Victor	1 Round 16 Marved crashies yay			1 Round 8 Marved FiNESSE	64	1	0
hazed TSM	4 Round 6 FiNESSE yay Round 11 Marved FiNESSE Round 15 crashies yay Round 24 yay FiNESSE	1 Round 3 Victor crashies Marved		1 Round 11 FiNESSE		50	1	0
Subroza TSM	5 Round 1 yay FiNESSE Round 2 FiNESSE yay Round 3 FiNESSE yay Round 9 FiNESSE Victor Round 23 FiNESSE crashies	2 Round 7 yay Victor crashies Round 12 yay Marved FiNESSE				65	0	0
bang TSM						19	3	0
LeviathanAG TSM	4 Round 1 crashies Victor Round 11 yay Victor Round 15 FiNESSE Victor Round 23 Marved Victor					33	2	1

	WARDELL TSM	bang TSM	LeviathanAG TSM	Subroza TSM	hazed TSM
FiNESSE NV	1 3 -2	3 3 +0	6 1 +5	2 4 -2	4 1 +3
Marved NV	1 5 -4	1 1 +0	0 3 -3	4 5 -1	2 1 +1
Victor NV	4 4 +0	4 3 +1	4 1 +3	3 5 -2	3 1 +2
crashies NV	4 3 +1	2 2 +0	4 3 +1	7 1 +6	2 3 -1
yay NV	6 1 +5	4 2 +2	2 0 +2	2 7 -5	6 1 +5

	WARDELL TSM	bang TSM	LeviathanAG TSM	Subroza TSM	hazed TSM
FiNESSE NV		1 0 +1			1 0 +1
Marved NV		1 1 +0	0 1 -1		1 0 +1
Victor NV		0 1 -1	1 0 +1		1 1 +0
crashies NV	1 0 +1	1 1 +0		1 0 +1	1 1 +0
yay NV	2 0 +2			0 1 -1	2 0 +2

	WARDELL TSM	bang TSM	LeviathanAG TSM	Subroza TSM	hazed TSM
FiNESSE NV				1 0 +1
Marved NV
Victor NV	0 1 -1
crashies NV	0 1 -1
yay NV	4 1 +3	4 0 +4	1 0 +1	1 0 +1	3 0 +3

	2K	3K	4K	5K	1v1	1v2	ECON	PL	DE
crashies NV	6 Round 6 LeviathanAG Subroza Round 8 Subroza Subroza Round 13 Subroza WARDELL Round 16 WARDELL bang Round 17 LeviathanAG WARDELL Round 21 LeviathanAG Subroza	1 Round 15 hazed WARDELL LeviathanAG					52	3	1
Victor NV	6 Round 2 Subroza WARDELL Round 6 hazed WARDELL Round 10 LeviathanAG Subroza Round 14 LeviathanAG bang Round 17 Subroza bang Round 18 hazed LeviathanAG		1 Round 20 LeviathanAG WARDELL bang hazed				67	2	1
Marved NV	1 Round 1 hazed Subroza						29	0	0
FiNESSE NV	1 Round 5 LeviathanAG WARDELL	1 Round 4 bang LeviathanAG hazed				1 Round 4 hazed LeviathanAG	56	1	0
yay NV	4 Round 11 WARDELL hazed Round 13 LeviathanAG hazed Round 14 hazed WARDELL Round 19 LeviathanAG WARDELL	2 Round 5 Subroza hazed bang Round 8 bang hazed WARDELL					76	1	0
WARDELL TSM	3 Round 8 Victor crashies Round 9 Victor Marved Round 20 Marved FiNESSE	1 Round 1 FiNESSE crashies Marved					54	2	0
hazed TSM	1 Round 18 crashies yay						23	1	0
Subroza TSM	3 Round 9 FiNESSE yay Round 11 Victor Marved Round 18 Marved Victor	1 Round 4 yay Victor Marved		1 Round 19 FiNESSE crashies Victor Marved yay	1 Round 19 yay		58	1	0
bang TSM	3 Round 2 yay Victor Round 3 Victor crashies Round 12 Victor yay						43	0	1
LeviathanAG TSM	1 Round 2 Marved FiNESSE	1 Round 16 Victor crashies Marved					37	1	0

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zenv

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SENBobstar

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Who's laughing now, TSM is not that gud yet. Downvote all u want, haters gotta hate.

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dreski

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you just love showing 0 support on tsm

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sidrical

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TSM 2-1 now with NV adding yay

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Murphy

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U still think tsm will win?

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turkey

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it’s a fair assumption, NV don’t have much time to integrate him and we haven’t ever seen yay on a team other than ABX

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shax4PF

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he's a transitioning duelist they'll be fine lol its not like he's a controller player

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RickyIndian

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this makes nv so much better. mummay was really inconsistent and yay is a BEAST (check his stats)

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unknown_trash

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thats like saying you wont support any team that will go up against TSM. Let him be if hes a TSM fan, i see other delusional TSM fans act like him about TSM, so why cant he?

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moustaqimsami1

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this guy has been writing on 2-1 TSM for every match.. and guess what.. TSM won all of them lol

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Gumm0o1

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I dont feel they will this one i feel like they are not stabel yet

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mizu772

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its sadge but its true unfortunately, the team isn't stable yet with the roster change

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Darkslayer

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SENclownstar is back with his shit takes

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FireII

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i mean NV 2-1 TSM is not a bad take at all

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Crayzid

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yeah but thats not what he thinks at all. he only said that because TSM is the opposing team

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yans0n

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look at their profile lmao, convinced theyre trollig

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Wavee

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Just_troller

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you are actually TSM fan

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TrickVAL

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Edit: ratio

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SnowiFIN

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ynot7

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downvoted to hell but was right

#257

unknown_trash

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Haters gotta hate

#259

orapha

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-86 Frags LMFAOOOOOOOOOOO
u damn right buddy, tsm is overrated

#271

zevbo

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Lmao TSM fans be like that cant respect someones opinion

#272

4AI

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"Haters gonna hate" bro you are the hater. So i guess that statements true huh.

SerPneu

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TSM 2-0 Envy

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H1SQKA

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That's pretty optimistic. I knew TSM had a good run so far but I think it they even get a 2-1 they are lucky. My bets are on Envy

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Nosey

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Nice try XD

blicey

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Envy 2-0

EL_DIABLO_OPOSTOPOS

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WE DONT KNOW WHO THE OPPONENT IS U DUMBASS

blicey

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such me bxtch

#89

bigpeensheen

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LMAO

#150

MegaMinded

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how is your name el diablo and you're not voting for the team with el diablo on it

TGOPARTHIB

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ENvy 2-0

pewpew

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TSM 1 - 2 Envy

I wanna say TSM 2 - 1 Envy, but they know so much about each other that I am not sure how it will go. I am taking the safer bet since NV has been the top running team for awhile now.

mattgg2015

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NV 1-2 TSM

valvenq

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TSM 2-1
It could go either way only because TSM has momentum

#10

Hunt

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NV 2-1 TSM really close game

#11

kurama3x

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TSM 2-0

#12

kucD

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NV 2-1

#13

Fire737

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Nv2-0 anybody including tsm

#67

Zoxlr

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cap

#69

Fire737

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Copium

#74

Zoxlr

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"tsm gonna lose" copium

#75

Fire737

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I like envy that’s why i said envy wins.I don’t hate any team

#14

Crayzid

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TSM 2-1 NV

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pokedyo3

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TSM 2-1 NV
or
NV 2-0 FAZE

#16

ImpudentBeast

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NV 2-0 TSM

#17

TUSH4R

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I think the winner of Playoffs Finals will face Envy so it might be NV vs Faze

#18

Zeeoop

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winner faces envy

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TUSH4R

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Yeah it follows the
1-4
2-3
3-2
4-1

#19

dignityx3

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TSM 2-1 Envy, very close matches

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Aris

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2-0 for TSM EZ

#22

Swiftmal12

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2-0 Envy
13-11
13-8

#23

Zaynio

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TSM 2-1

Both teams are super close and play each other in scrims all the time but I think TSM can pull through

#24

Flamephoenix11

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2-0 for Envy 13-0 13-0 so fun to bait tsm fans

#29

Crayzid

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were just giving u the attention u clearly need

#122

unknown_trash

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please dont talk to us about attention. TSM fans have to spam every match with TSM WIN 2-0 EZ all the time for attention

#124

Crayzid

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not me

#129

unknown_trash

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but isnt that what your fellow TSM fans do on every thread related to TSM?

#131

Crayzid

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ur soft if fans supporting their team makes you mad

#126

DucWallace

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cringe + ratio + take this L

#128

unknown_trash

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ok + tell me some actual facts next time + i dont like some TSM fans

#25

Bburmaning

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This is so 50/50 i could see them playing in lower bracket tbh

#26

ILL

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INSANE FUCKING MATCHUP

#27

Bricckk

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TSM 2-1 But I think it could go either way especially since ENVY and TSM have been scrimming a lot plus they have a lot of vod's to research from then again TSM could improve and change things before this qualifier

#28

JustEnjoying

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BRING IT ON BABY SUCH A GOOD MATCH.

Kinda sad both my top 2 fav teams going first, rooting for both. This goes 2-1 either way.

#31

BeNj1z_

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2-1 TSM close maps

#32

EL_DIABLO

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its gonna be a banger and a really close game but i think TSM takes it 2-1

#33

yungjeezy

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I'm not going to lie, I don't know why they picked up bang, no offense. I don't even think he's that good. I'm sorry, I don't think he's good bro. I really don't... I don't. I'm just going to say it bro, I don't think he's good. Who the fucks idea was it to pick him up?

#37

Darkslayer

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lmao if you guys don't realize this a copypasta, babybay said this about bang only to get pooed on in grand finals

#42

moustaqimsami1

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Bang freaking top fragged and smashed babybay lesgo

#46

yungjeezy

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bang is babybays father

#91

yungbasel

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stepdaddy. cus he poked his momma after the fact

#34

Karma09077

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TSM 2-1 NV
Wardell gonna do Wardell things
Hazed gonna IGL to perfection
Subroza gonna abuse NV with Skye
Bang gonna BANG
Levi gonna do his thing

Hope we need a new refreshed TSM though. Can’t wait to see what they have under their sleeves that they haven’t shown yet!!
#TSMWIN

#35

TSMFTXFAN123

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TSM 2-1 NV
Wardell gonna do Wardell things
Hazed gonna IGL to perfection
Subroza gonna abuse NV with Skye
Bang gonna BANG
Levi gonna do his thing

Hope we need a new refreshed TSM though. Can’t wait to see what they have under their sleeves that they haven’t shown yet!!
#TSMWIN

#38

jblancard

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wheres the "being old af"

#44

TSMFTXFAN123

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LOL

#36

sentence

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Man I love TSM, but I am a Envy fan, so I will go 2-0 Envy cuz of the map pool.

#39

Darkslayer

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great matchup could go either way tbh, hoping for a 2-1 tsm

#43

mAko

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All of the first round matches are upsettable.

#45

BeNj1z_

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TSM 2-1 ENVY
https://www.vlr.gg/pickem/40d8a14a

#47

DonRobs

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Ez for NV as they send TSM fans back to the ground

#48

Aris

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we TSM fans are not down bad as u LMFAO to say someshit like that cry more LOL

#50

DonRobs

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TSM fans deadass think they're the best and have the best players after winning a qualifier for a qualifer against T1.5/T2 team LMAO

#51

Aris

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TIER 1 TEAMS AND TIER 1.5 STAY MAD KID LMFAOOOOOO

#54

DonRobs

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Faze - had 1 good run from Challengers 3 to Masters 1
V1 - surprised many people to get to Berlin fair play, but we see how they decline later, proving that it was a honeymoon phase
TSM - shit throughout the whole year apart from this tournament
T1- just like TSM been bang average/shit throughout the year apart from this tournament
Luminosity - was good from January-March, have declined
GenG - probably the only T1 team there but their inconsistency makes it debatable
KCP - LMFAO
Rise - Again, very inconsistent, fumbled it when they play actual good teams

WHO IS TIER 1 HERE DONT KILL ME MAN

#123

unknown_trash

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you are going to stay mad when TSM gets slapped by actual T1 teams.

#52

Aris

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#55

DonRobs

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only watches TSM game

#56

Aris

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bro ur to dumb to talk to me go touch some grass and cry

#57

DonRobs

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so ironic lmfao instead of crying how about you actually give some actual argument

#60

Aris

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u can tell u are a SEN fan boy by how u talk so ye......

#62

DonRobs

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again, you are not able to provide a counter argument so you make up shit so you can go to sleep at night lmao

#61

DonRobs

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Sentinels, NV, XSET and 100T are the only teams that have been consistently good this whole year. The clear Tier 1 teams in NA

Every other teams in NA have been too inconsistent to be considered a Tier 1 NA team

#153

Baller_Unchained

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Brainless fool, NV never won against TSM
Go fuckin' cry to your mama

#260

DonRobs

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LMAO CRY

#58

Aris

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Zoxlr

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ez for tsm nv never beat tsm and never will

#251

DonRobs

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LOOOOL who's crying now

#278

RacBeels8

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copium

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RacBeels8

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plas

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ive doubted TSM for long enough but i wont for this match, TSM 2-0 NV pls dont dissapoint :)

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Nosey

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Excaliburn

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TSM 2-1 Envy

Even though envy has so many vod reviews of tsm now, they can easily make a lot of changes in the next week and a half which is why they’ll most likely win

#63

item

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As an NV fan I have to say TSM 2-0, their form right now reminds me a lot of FaZe during Stage 1 where they rolled everyone except SEN, and NV traditionally struggles against TSM, although both teams have changed their rosters.

#64

ILL

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No ur wrong...whoever wins itll be a 2-1....
Both teams are literally equal and who ever wins we can say luck favoured them that day cuz if they played each other 10 times....I bet it would be a 5-5

#66

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Maybe, but I think TSM looks better atm, of course I will be cheering for NV but if TSM can win the first map in good fashion, I don't think NV will be able to stop the momentum. TSM currently plays somewhat like FaZe in Masters 1, with decent team play and a lot of star power, we'll see if NV can adapt

#73

Fire737

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Trust your team because Envy is an extremely powerful team.

#65

Aris

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TSM 2-0 or 2-1 ENVY

#68

Asphyxia

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#NVHYPE

#71

Derkshu

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2-1 either team

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kiro159

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2-1 either team

#76

teezmageez

-4

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TSM 2-1 ENVY
according to a old clip s0m said that in scrims TSM is NVs kryptonite and they consistently beat them and that was with the old roster so this new and improved one I assume would only have similar or better results. also some of the players on NV always tweet about how TSM are the best team in the world and going to berlin after their scrims so idk but I feel like TSM got this one in the bag

#78

blicey

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sounds promising except they will go against SEN next round anyway LMAO

#79

hubbwi

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Didn't hazed tweet they couldn't beat envy in scrims like a few days ago

#80

mAko

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NV always destroys teams on scrims tho

#83

teezmageez

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hazed always tweets that but then FNS always tweets that they cant beat tsm and that tsm is the best team in the world. so its like an ongoing joke but there was an old clip where s0m said tsm was NVs kryptonite and always beat them in scrims so idk

#84

Zoxlr

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victor tweeted we haven't won a scrim against you guys in weeks to chet

#81

User011098

-2

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Tsm vs Envy Map score prediction
13-9
13-7
14-12
I hope tsm win i really wanna see them against other region but envy is super solid and if tsm win they might face RISE looking so strong also sen worlds champ

#85

pewpew

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Whoever wins this game is gonna have an easier bracket run after getting beat by SEN. So it's definitely worth it.

#86

yungjeezy

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SENBobstar the biggest L in this community, always editing his OG comment when hes wrong LUL TSM 2-1 NV BOOK THE FLIGHT TO BERLIN

#87

Snare

-3

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Mindless TSM stans take my frags. 2-0 envy.

#88

FireII

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#94

teezmageez

-1

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ur just sad TSM shit on T1
everyone kept saying T1 would destroy TSM and it wasnt even close
TSM 2-1 ENVY close series fosho

#96

Zoxlr

-1

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your just mad we beat t1 lmao

#100

Snare

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no. envy is the best team top 2 team easily. TSM is like 6th rn

#125

unknown_trash

-4

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you're* get your grammar checked TSM stan

#90

bigpeensheen

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TSM 2-1, gonna be close, gonna have everybody shaking

#92

Aris

-1

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2-0 for TSM

#95

roaree

-1

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NV 1-2 TSM

#99

Shush

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Alright the Yay acquisition is huge for NV. If you still can't beat TSM or more importantly qualify for masters then idk what to say (in the honeymoon period)

I'm assuming he's been practicing with team since ABX made their decision to drop players, if that's not the case then this is just a stupid decision to incorporate a player just a week before.

And yes I realise it takes time to jell with a new player.

#106

flame2802

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I thought nothing was broken with NV's setup so if it fails that will be a huge L
Still got to back the boys though, i hope the chemistry works because individual skill wise they are all cracked

#102

SETSUZA

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NV 2-0 yay drop 70 kills

#103

TSMFANFOREVER

-1

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This match is still gonna be close cause Wardell still diffs Yay

#104

mattgg2015

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TSM IS FINISHED

#105

alum

-2

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wardell locked in

#108

Noone12

-3

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TSM will win

#109

thebrownlegend

-2

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Hot take TSM still win

#110

vollizie

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Envy 2-0 TSM

#111

Crayzid

-2

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TSM so unlucky they have to beat el diablo twice

#112

camcars

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no easy way out for TSM.

#113

PicKaRuu

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EZ for the boys

#115

vollizie

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It's actually disgusting how hard this bracket is for TSM. They may have fucked themselves by winning that grand final against FaZe. 100T/FaZe and XSET are no joke either, but I'd rather face them than Envy and potentially Sentinels.

#118

mAko

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Nobody except netero knows yay is joining nv :((((?

#161

turkey

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if they win against NV and lose against SEN they most likely play faze/lg in the lower which is a pretty favorable matchup so there’s a highlight for them

#163

shammy

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this is the way my bracket plays out, but i have them losing to 100T in lowers and placing 5/6

#116

Acount123

-1

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Just look at previous head to head. nothing else to say

#130

swaglord69

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Just look at previous head to head dates and rosters. nothing else to say

#117

2xJacob

-4

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Lmao TSM wins their first qualifier in months and TSM fans think they're the best NA, it's only because all the top teams already qualified, NV 2-0 TSM. Especially with NV picking up El Diablo (yay)

#120

changevaluable2143123

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none of the fans thinks they're best NA seriously is it that hard to tell when people arent being serious

#119

raka_gg

-7

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fns = hazed
yay = subroza
food = wardell
crashies = bang
marved = leviathan

close match but envy 2-1

#127

SETSUZA

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8/8

#134

DogeForPres

-1

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These comparisons aren't even right

FNS < Hazed
yay = WARDELL
Vic > Subroza
crashes = Levi
Marved < bang

Can't predict, so I'm gonna say TSM 2-1 so I get upvoted by the hopium

#137

LouBag

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Here let me help you

FNS > Hazed
Yay = Wardell
Vic > Rosa
Crashies > Levi
Marved <= Bang

#180

Yagami

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FNS<Hazed ( but FNS is goated IGL)
yay= Wardell
Vic < Subroza
Crashies > Levi
Marved <= Bang

#132

Minase

-4

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tsm 2-0 #tsm on fire

#133

Aris

-4

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TSM 2-0 YAY DORPS 40 kills still cant win

#135

Nosey

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NV 2-1 TSM

#138

zevbo

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I wanna say NV 2-1 with the addition of yay but a very close one, TSM have been on a hot streak lately so a possible 2-1 TSM or 2-1 NV but Im putting my bets on NV rn

#139

gautam2909

-9

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Dude they did not need yay. He's so overrated af. Y do they need him. They should have actually drop marved instead. Just the 8 ping factor.. NV isn't getting better. But not bad from the present stage.

#140

ILL

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Bro no way u called YAY overrated....

#146

not_TenZ

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lmao 6yr old tenz fanboy

#142

shax4PF

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NV 2-0 with the addition of el diablo its ggs

#143

ILL

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Only way TSM takes this one if the whole of NV is having a "bad" day....and the whole of TSM are feeling themselves....which sounds so dumb and jus not reality

#144

pewpew

-3

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I change my whole prediction with that yay addition. Today is a bad day for TSM fans man...Riot should not allow this kind of trade close to a tourney.

#145

ILL

-2

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Exactly like transfers should not be allowed during a closed tourney...unless its an emergency like sinatraa situation...such a bs transfer...

#151

pewpew

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I guess Esports doesn't have this kind of rule. But, sports prohibits this sort of trades. Imagine Lebron joining the Suns right after the Lakers losing to them. It would be pretty unfair right?

#147

feeji

-4

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Most accurate bracket ever, quote me on it.. #TSMWIN

https://www.vlr.gg/event/pickem/578/champions-tour-north-america-stage-3-challengers-playoffs

#148

M4trix

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NV aren't playin around they even Hired El Diablo (YAY)
GG

#149

namzelor

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NV 2-0 13-7 13-8

#154

Casual

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this is going to be such a banger of a match, easily best match in the upper qf, i'm very hyped

#155

Kitz

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#ENVYWIN

#156

bogdi_jesus666

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yay is gonna make it hard for tsm especially because envy will play with so much lower ping that tsm but i think tsm will make it through
prediction: tsm 2 - 1 envy

#157

pixelstrash

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NV 2-1 TSM, honestly can go either way, waiting to see NV yay though.

#158

M4trix

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I heard TSM already preparing for Lowes

#159

Yagami

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Before Yay addition, 2-1 for TSM but every games will be close like multiple OT.
After Yay addition, 2-1 for NV and not going to multiple OT. (FNS reading them like a book+ El Diablo effect)
P.s : TSM got their bad luck back. T_T

#160

kariurena

-2

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2-0 TSM EZ

#162

yuuc1fer

-1

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Chat lam the dmm

#164

LazyNorn

-1

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2-0 TSM. TSM 23-21, 18-16

#165

TSM_FOREVER

-1

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I say tsm

#166

TSM_FOREVER

-1

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#TSMWIN

#167

exxem

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NV 2-1 TSM

#168

BirdB0i

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LETS GOO DIABLOO

#169

WitLitning

-1

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there’s gonna be 120 rounds of valorant total

#170

cripsy

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ENVY WİN

#171

cloud9bluefan

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Should be a envy win especially with yay now would be surprised if it wasn’t

#172

emirerays

-1

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Envy will win so ez 2-0

#173

teezmageez

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i think TSM is gonna win cuz everyone is overhyping tf outta yay rn that he is gonna end up underperforming and TSM will steal the series 2-1. MARK MY WORDS

#174

shammy

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I don't think yay is getting overhyped (I think the guy is just that good) but I still have TSM taking this one for two reasons:

1) TSM is on fire right now
2) Even though yay plays a role that should slot right in, the chemistry won't be perfect for Envy yet

#175

TSM_Shreyash

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I think TSM will win this one.
#TSM FOR THE WIN

#176

PrTsty

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Tsm never lost to ENVY, won twices so its 2:0 TSM

#177

TSMice

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envy 2-1

#178

Zeeoop

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2-0 NV

#179

swaglord69

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easy 2-0 for envy

#181

Vonik

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this is gonna be one hell of a match, we will see how good envy is with yay and if tsm is back to tier 1

#182

sardine21

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TSM 90000-0 TOO EZ FOR WARDELL AND BANG BROS!

#183

DucWallace

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#BANGBROS

#186

LifeIsALie

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wtf lmaofo

#187

PersonHere

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Bang fans are the BangBros...

#261

bhc

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this aged well

#184

cnfpsworstfps

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tsm tsm tsm

#185

LifeIsALie

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110% NV 2-1 TSM
At least 2 maps will go into Overtime

#188

ZEMTAH

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TSM 2-1 NV.

The yay signing for NV really means this can go either way, but historically this has been a good stylisitc matchup for TSM and they are in excellent form at the moment. It's the kinda game where NV can make the right strategic plays and lose rounds anyway.

Will say I've also never been the biggest believe in this NV team, they have a high peak, but I've seen them lose too many big, winnable matches.

#189

isashoow

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LET'S GO TSM #TSMWIN

#190

itsmedavidjones

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I dont care who wins.. all i need are some good ass close matches... 2-1 all OTs

#191

Tundai

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Envy win these

#192

NuTBreAker

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Coach myth is back baby!

#193

Sp00kydonuts

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🍩

#194

kocunar

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Really hype match

#195

sKi

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the closest ine too you'll see today

#198

kocunar

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I hope so

We have coach Myth in full action too

#197

tinted

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lets go envy! hoping for a close match, though

#199

beatje

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HYPEEEE

#200

LouBag

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60% NV win
40% TSM

Either team can take it. Should be a banger.

#202

sKi

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if either team can take it, shiuldn't it be 50-50% ?

#203

LouBag

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No lol. That’s not how odds work.

I think NV is favored, but not so much favored that it would be shocking for them to lose.

#201

hilo0829

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depends on how yay fit in
teams dont usually perform well right after roster change tho
gonna be good matchh

#206

pewpew

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Pure duelists like yay will fit seamlessly just like TenZ did with SEN. All they have to do is listen to the IGL and frag. No play set ups like controller or support player.

#207

Outte

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idk i usually notice a honeymoon period, especially when its a massive upgrade and not just a change to make a change. Also, u are commenting this on a TSM match, who have gone 9-0 since they picked up leviathan

#205

deemo

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NV 2-0

#208

Rizvi

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That first pistol round was beautiful

#209

M4trix

-3

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envy WHO????

#240

hubbwi

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#242

M4trix

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well NV played good ngl
heads up

#210

M4trix

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#211

schlong

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Its ok we lose ecos no worry

#212

TinglyPiano

-9

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imagine calling yay top 3 lmao

#215

Flamephoenix11

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yeah hes top 2 for sure

#213

beatje

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El diablo has arrived

#214

swaglord69

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I LIKE HOW THIS IS GOING

#216

Neon74

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AHAHAHAHAH TSM
Whenever Myth watches, TSM lose

#217

beatje

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Yayster too strong

#218

ComradeVonAustria

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if tsm didnt lose 3-0 5v3, they would have easily won this map, unlucky

#219

Gunzout97

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If TSM didn't lose the rounds they lost they would have won

#220

Neon74

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If I had a dollar for every time TSM get flanked I would be a millionaire

#221

DeathStroKE

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#222

beatje

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Kinda easy

#223

Rizvi

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This Haven map was literally IGL diff. FNS was way better than Hazed as a leader and as Killjoy.
We go again!

#226

AltonBu02

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Also just a team diff, they had the exact same comp and every single agent played better on Envy LMAO (Victor was more impactful than roza for me, winning them their first round when they were down 3-0)

#227

pewpew

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True, the reads on TSM was on point and TSM team coordination was kinda whacky so 13-7 deserved.

#224

WitLitning

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damn tsm needs to watch their flanks better jesus they got fucked up by flanks

#228

zenv

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unlucky really

#229

Tundai

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#230

ComradeVonAustria

-1

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11-4 11-13 :D

#235

ComradeVonAustria

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13-11 I meant unlucky xd

#231

TinglyPiano

-1

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remember when ppl say TSM is now top team because they got a unproven player (bang) and a overrated coach (chet)?? KEKW

#232

item

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HOLY SHIT my heart on that 11-10 round

#233

M4trix

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imagine putting a trip somewhere and that trip broke
and u don't look that way?

#234

M4trix

-3

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GG
take that map 3 HOME TSM

#236

ASD

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nearly blew a 10-2 lead on a map nv has never won OMEGALUL

#238

pewpew

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Breeze is always hard to defend. I have watched multiple EU breeze matches and its always masacre on attack side.

#237

Flamephoenix11

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credit where credits due TSM won map 2 while 4v5ing very impressive

#243

Forsity

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Wdym I didnt watch map 2, can u explain?

#244

big_chungus69

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bang 4/19

hes just making fun by saying that it was basically a 4v5 because bang was so trash

#254

Forsity

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Ohhh unlucky they got lowers for sure

#239

beatje

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Let’s gooo

#241

joe_cool

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only tuned in to game 3 but was pretty insane from both sides. i thought tsm would win, pleasantly surprised. also nice to hear ender casting

#245

hilo0829

-2

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bang and levi showing their true potential!!

#248

FilthyAnimal

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Congrats NV, one more for u guys! And GL TSM in lowers

#249

bhc

-1

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TSM COPIUM

#250

TSMAL1X

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NERF YAY HOLY SHIT

#252

zet1wnl

-1

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KEKW

#253

HaSanity

-1

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thanks nv!

#255

MAXX013

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Man!
Bang and leviathan just underperformed a lot. A lot means a lot. They were playing like that one bottom frag whom we carry at our rank games. And then he says "thanks guys, GG".

#262

cdn

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xD and its always an omen or cypher

#265

lofi

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I think people just over rated their performance from the qualifier but its understandable after watching how successful they were but it was still to be seen how they would stack up against the best NA teams so ig we have a little sense of it now. I wanna see them go to Berlin but if they cant beat envy im not sure if they at that level yet tbh.

#256

pewpew

-3

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TSM is gonna do well in lowers. I think Levi and Bang mental is gonna get better and TSM showed that they can beat tier 1 teams.

#268

Nosey

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Sorry, but they must lose against 100T/XSET

#258

tinted

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i wasn't able to watch but NICE! yay too strong

#263

lofi

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Not even double sentinel on ascent defense could stop NV they really deserved the W they resurrected Yay from the dead on some villain shit lmao they have marved and the devil himself they really are the antagonist of the pro scene rn

#264

LooseCiz

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If NV sticked with their old roster TSM would of won. Their past match ups had TSM winning all of them. COPIUM

#270

mclife20

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If TSM sticked with their old roster they could not go to challenger playoffs lul

#269

xLinksz

-1

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How happy I am when TSM loses

#275

Zoxlr

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your a kru fan irrelevant team plus irrelevant region

#276

xLinksz

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Sorry, I only talk to people who went to Reykjavik or who are going to Berlin.

#273

vxnyxk_

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Wardell and Roza Deserves better :(

#274

Blazieboy

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FNS diff. The number of rounds he clutched was really the difference maker. Also Bang and Levi got diffed real hard.

#279

kapalrevolution

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sheeesh! tsm took a map off envy! how tf did they do that!

tsm is the best team in the galaxy!