Envy team logo
final
2 : 1
vs.
Bo3
TSM team logo
NV ban Split; TSM ban Bind; NV pick Haven; TSM pick Breeze; NV pick Ascent
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Streams
Nerd Street 2
VCT (YT)
Maps/Stats
All Maps
1 Haven
2 Breeze
3 Ascent
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Envy
7 / 6
Haven PICK
41:31
TSM
5 / 2
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Defend
R2.0 ACS K D A +/– KAST ADR HS% FK FD +/–
astra
1.36 1.10 1.76 230 187 295 18 9 9 / 11 7 4 / 10 8 2 +7 +2 +5 85% 83% 88% 159 139 188 26% 42% 18% 2 0 2 0 0 0 +2 0 +2
jett
1.20 1.38 0.93 271 298 231 20 13 7 / 15 8 7 / 3 2 1 +5 +5 0 55% 67% 38% 186 204 160 34% 19% 78% 6 4 2 2 1 1 +4 +3 +1
sova
1.18 0.96 1.51 212 215 207 16 11 5 / 10 7 3 / 4 1 3 +6 +4 +2 80% 83% 75% 135 132 141 19% 20% 18% 0 0 0 2 2 0 -2 -2 0
killjoy
1.10 1.00 1.24 235 206 279 16 8 8 / 12 7 5 / 4 2 2 +4 +1 +3 70% 67% 75% 137 159 103 24% 22% 27% 2 1 1 2 2 0 0 -1 +1
skye
0.74 0.74 0.75 159 188 118 10 7 3 / 14 9 5 / 4 2 2 -4 -2 -2 80% 75% 88% 89 116 49 30% 38% 11% 1 0 1 3 2 1 -2 -2 0
R2.0 ACS K D A +/– KAST ADR HS% FK FD +/–
jett
1.19 1.07 1.27 236 233 240 17 7 10 / 16 6 10 / 4 2 2 +1 +1 0 75% 75% 75% 133 115 145 21% 21% 20% 2 1 1 0 0 0 +2 +1 +1
astra
0.94 0.96 0.93 179 199 167 14 6 8 / 15 6 9 / 8 5 3 -1 0 -1 65% 75% 58% 127 154 110 28% 29% 28% 1 0 1 2 1 1 -1 -1 0
skye
0.84 1.05 0.70 195 238 167 13 6 7 / 18 7 11 / 6 3 3 -5 -1 -4 65% 88% 50% 138 171 116 33% 25% 42% 3 0 3 1 1 0 +2 -1 +3
sova
0.76 0.24 1.10 142 102 170 9 3 6 / 14 7 7 / 4 0 4 -5 -4 -1 55% 50% 58% 103 64 128 36% 50% 32% 1 0 1 3 1 2 -2 -1 -1
killjoy
0.58 0.32 0.75 135 97 161 9 2 7 / 17 7 10 / 5 2 3 -8 -5 -3 55% 63% 50% 91 68 107 28% 20% 31% 2 1 1 5 3 2 -3 -2 -1
All
Attack
Defend
R2.0 ACS K D A +/– KAST ADR HS% FK FD +/–
jett
1.32 1.10 1.22 257 282 225 60 36 24 / 44 22 22 / 11 6 5 +16 +14 +2 69% 69% 69% 162 182 138 24% 17% 33% 18 12 6 7 6 1 +11 +6 +5
killjoy
1.12 1.13 1.13 226 222 234 53 30 23 / 42 22 20 / 10 4 6 +11 +8 +3 68% 67% 69% 147 170 118 23% 23% 24% 6 2 4 4 2 2 +2 0 +2
sova
0.90 1.17 1.02 195 171 220 46 24 22 / 39 23 16 / 16 8 8 +7 +1 +6 71% 78% 62% 117 107 130 22% 24% 20% 5 3 2 7 3 4 -2 0 -2
astra viper
0.96 0.96 0.96 182 189 175 43 26 17 / 40 24 16 / 19 11 8 +3 +2 +1 78% 75% 83% 119 118 120 27% 31% 23% 5 0 5 3 2 1 +2 -2 +4
skye raze
0.89 0.97 0.92 193 193 191 41 22 19 / 43 23 20 / 13 6 7 -2 -1 -1 77% 75% 79% 112 111 113 24% 24% 24% 4 2 2 6 4 2 -2 -2 0
R2.0 ACS K D A +/– KAST ADR HS% FK FD +/–
jett sage
1.10 1.32 1.22 257 249 270 57 24 33 / 48 21 27 / 15 9 6 +9 +3 +6 74% 79% 69% 153 151 155 20% 16% 24% 5 2 3 6 2 4 -1 0 -1
skye omen
1.58 0.73 1.11 241 318 182 58 34 24 / 52 21 31 / 14 8 6 +6 +13 -7 66% 79% 56% 154 196 121 34% 28% 45% 7 3 4 3 2 1 +4 +1 +3
killjoy cypher
0.81 0.68 0.74 152 154 159 36 16 20 / 48 21 27 / 12 5 7 -12 -5 -7 60% 62% 58% 93 92 93 28% 27% 29% 8 4 4 11 6 5 -3 -2 -1
sova viper
0.49 0.84 0.68 133 106 156 28 12 16 / 47 23 24 / 16 6 10 -19 -11 -8 52% 45% 58% 87 63 107 22% 35% 19% 3 1 2 9 4 5 -6 -3 -3
astra reyna
0.41 0.88 0.67 134 100 155 29 9 20 / 48 23 25 / 15 8 7 -19 -14 -5 57% 59% 56% 93 78 105 24% 17% 29% 4 0 4 9 5 4 -5 -5 0
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Envy
2 / 9
Breeze PICK
50:20
TSM
10 / 3
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R2.0 ACS K D A +/– KAST ADR HS% FK FD +/–
jett
1.04 1.13 0.94 240 251 230 20 11 9 / 18 7 11 / 3 0 3 +2 +4 -2 75% 67% 83% 149 162 135 16% 21% 13% 8 5 3 4 4 0 +4 +1 +3
killjoy
1.02 1.00 1.05 239 246 233 21 12 9 / 18 8 10 / 3 2 1 +3 +4 -1 58% 67% 50% 168 198 139 22% 15% 32% 2 1 1 2 0 2 0 +1 -1
viper
0.94 1.19 0.69 202 272 134 17 12 5 / 14 8 6 / 2 2 0 +3 +4 -1 79% 83% 75% 123 156 89 27% 26% 27% 1 0 1 1 0 1 0 0 0
skye
0.84 1.09 0.60 155 200 111 13 8 5 / 15 6 9 / 4 2 2 -2 +2 -4 75% 83% 67% 84 92 76 27% 17% 43% 1 1 0 1 0 1 0 +1 -1
sova
0.66 0.87 0.44 135 124 147 11 6 5 / 17 7 10 / 7 5 2 -6 -1 -5 58% 83% 33% 92 76 108 21% 21% 21% 1 1 0 3 0 3 -2 +1 -3
R2.0 ACS K D A +/– KAST ADR HS% FK FD +/–
jett
1.45 1.45 1.46 307 281 334 24 12 12 / 16 7 9 / 5 4 1 +8 +5 +3 79% 92% 67% 181 186 177 19% 15% 24% 3 1 2 3 1 2 0 0 0
skye
1.31 1.98 0.64 255 379 133 23 17 6 / 16 7 9 / 4 3 1 +7 +10 -3 67% 83% 50% 164 236 93 39% 32% 78% 3 3 0 1 1 0 +2 +2 0
cypher
1.14 1.38 0.90 229 235 225 20 11 9 / 14 6 8 / 1 0 1 +6 +5 +1 71% 67% 75% 122 136 107 38% 36% 40% 4 2 2 0 0 0 +4 +2 +2
viper
0.75 0.91 0.60 136 130 143 11 6 5 / 17 7 10 / 9 6 3 -6 -1 -5 54% 67% 42% 80 79 81 25% 33% 19% 1 1 0 5 2 3 -4 -1 -3
astra
0.27 0.16 0.37 57 37 79 4 1 3 / 19 9 10 / 4 1 3 -15 -8 -7 54% 58% 50% 50 29 72 16% 0% 27% 0 0 0 4 1 3 -4 -1 -3
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Envy
7 / 6
Ascent PICK
46:18
TSM
5 / 3
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R2.0 ACS K D A +/– KAST ADR HS% FK FD +/–
jett
1.44 1.43 1.45 260 297 212 20 12 8 / 11 7 4 / 5 4 1 +9 +5 +4 76% 75% 78% 156 181 123 20% 10% 40% 4 3 1 1 1 0 +3 +2 +1
killjoy
1.27 1.37 1.15 205 215 194 16 10 6 / 12 7 5 / 3 0 3 +4 +3 +1 76% 67% 89% 133 153 105 24% 34% 14% 2 0 2 0 0 0 +2 0 +2
sova
1.27 0.85 1.83 239 172 328 19 7 12 / 12 9 3 / 5 2 3 +7 -2 +9 76% 67% 89% 129 113 151 25% 33% 21% 4 2 2 2 1 1 +2 +1 +1
raze
1.19 0.84 1.65 264 191 364 18 7 11 / 14 8 6 / 5 2 3 +4 -1 +5 76% 67% 89% 165 124 219 19% 19% 19% 2 1 1 2 2 0 0 -1 +1
astra
0.60 0.60 0.60 115 108 124 8 5 3 / 15 9 6 / 7 1 6 -7 -4 -3 71% 58% 89% 77 60 100 26% 29% 25% 2 0 2 2 2 0 0 -2 +2
R2.0 ACS K D A +/– KAST ADR HS% FK FD +/–
omen
1.14 1.53 0.85 272 307 247 22 11 11 / 18 7 11 / 4 2 2 +4 +4 0 67% 67% 67% 158 164 154 30% 24% 36% 1 0 1 1 0 1 0 0 0
sage
0.98 0.66 1.22 229 220 237 16 5 11 / 16 8 8 / 6 3 3 0 -3 +3 67% 67% 67% 141 138 143 20% 14% 27% 0 0 0 3 1 2 -3 -1 -2
reyna
0.88 0.26 1.34 167 97 220 11 2 9 / 14 8 6 / 3 2 1 -3 -6 +3 52% 44% 58% 108 75 132 24% 13% 32% 3 0 3 3 3 0 0 -3 +3
sova
0.53 0.16 0.81 122 77 156 8 3 5 / 16 9 7 / 3 0 3 -8 -6 -2 48% 11% 75% 82 42 112 13% 20% 12% 1 0 1 1 1 0 0 -1 +1
killjoy
0.43 0.48 0.39 93 96 91 7 3 4 / 17 8 9 / 6 3 3 -10 -5 -5 52% 56% 50% 60 56 64 18% 19% 18% 2 1 1 6 3 3 -4 -2 -2
Head-to-head
Past Matches
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#1
zenv
-3
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ok

#20
SENBobstar
-111
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Who's laughing now, TSM is not that gud yet. Downvote all u want, haters gotta hate.

#30
dreski
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you just love showing 0 support on tsm

#101
sidrical
-6
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TSM 2-1 now with NV adding yay

#114
Murphy
0
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U still think tsm will win?

#136
turkey
-4
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it’s a fair assumption, NV don’t have much time to integrate him and we haven’t ever seen yay on a team other than ABX

#141
shax4PF
4
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he's a transitioning duelist they'll be fine lol its not like he's a controller player

#204
RickyIndian
0
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this makes nv so much better. mummay was really inconsistent and yay is a BEAST (check his stats)

#121
unknown_trash
-2
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thats like saying you wont support any team that will go up against TSM. Let him be if hes a TSM fan, i see other delusional TSM fans act like him about TSM, so why cant he?

#40
moustaqimsami1
20
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this guy has been writing on 2-1 TSM for every match.. and guess what.. TSM won all of them lol

#82
Gumm0o1
1
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I dont feel they will this one i feel like they are not stabel yet

#225
mizu772
0
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its sadge but its true unfortunately, the team isn't stable yet with the roster change

#41
Darkslayer
8
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SENclownstar is back with his shit takes

#59
FireII
14
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i mean NV 2-1 TSM is not a bad take at all

#70
Crayzid
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yeah but thats not what he thinks at all. he only said that because TSM is the opposing team

#152
yans0n
-1
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look at their profile lmao, convinced theyre trollig

#247
Wavee
0
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?

#93
Just_troller
0
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you are actually TSM fan

#98
TrickVAL
-12
Frags
+

Edit: ratio

#107
SnowiFIN
-1
Frags
+

W

#246
ynot7
3
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downvoted to hell but was right

#257
unknown_trash
0
Frags
+

Haters gotta hate

#259
orapha
0
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-86 Frags LMFAOOOOOOOOOOO
u damn right buddy, tsm is overrated

#271
zevbo
0
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Lmao TSM fans be like that cant respect someones opinion

#272
4AI
1
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"Haters gonna hate" bro you are the hater. So i guess that statements true huh.

#2
SerPneu
5
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TSM 2-0 Envy

#196
H1SQKA
2
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That's pretty optimistic. I knew TSM had a good run so far but I think it they even get a 2-1 they are lucky. My bets are on Envy

#266
Nosey
0
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Nice try XD

#3
blicey
-7
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Envy 2-0

#5
EL_DIABLO_OPOSTOPOS
0
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WE DONT KNOW WHO THE OPPONENT IS U DUMBASS

#6
blicey
-4
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such me bxtch

#89
bigpeensheen
-2
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LMAO

#150
MegaMinded
3
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how is your name el diablo and you're not voting for the team with el diablo on it

#4
TGOPARTHIB
-3
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ENvy 2-0

#7
pewpew
9
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TSM 1 - 2 Envy

I wanna say TSM 2 - 1 Envy, but they know so much about each other that I am not sure how it will go. I am taking the safer bet since NV has been the top running team for awhile now.

#8
mattgg2015
0
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NV 1-2 TSM

#9
valvenq
12
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TSM 2-1
It could go either way only because TSM has momentum

#10
Hunt
3
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NV 2-1 TSM really close game

#11
kurama3x
2
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TSM 2-0

#12
kucD
7
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NV 2-1

#13
Fire737
8
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Nv2-0 anybody including tsm

#67
Zoxlr
-9
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cap

#69
Fire737
2
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Copium

#74
Zoxlr
-10
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"tsm gonna lose" copium

#75
Fire737
6
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I like envy that’s why i said envy wins.I don’t hate any team

#14
Crayzid
1
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TSM 2-1 NV

#15
pokedyo3
-1
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TSM 2-1 NV
or
NV 2-0 FAZE

#16
ImpudentBeast
-4
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NV 2-0 TSM

#17
TUSH4R
0
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I think the winner of Playoffs Finals will face Envy so it might be NV vs Faze

#18
Zeeoop
0
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winner faces envy

#77
TUSH4R
1
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Yeah it follows the
1-4
2-3
3-2
4-1

#19
dignityx3
-2
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TSM 2-1 Envy, very close matches

#21
Aris
-6
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2-0 for TSM EZ

#22
Swiftmal12
1
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2-0 Envy
13-11
13-8

#23
Zaynio
0
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TSM 2-1

Both teams are super close and play each other in scrims all the time but I think TSM can pull through

#24
Flamephoenix11
6
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2-0 for Envy 13-0 13-0 so fun to bait tsm fans

#29
Crayzid
-9
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were just giving u the attention u clearly need

#122
unknown_trash
0
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please dont talk to us about attention. TSM fans have to spam every match with TSM WIN 2-0 EZ all the time for attention

#124
Crayzid
-3
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not me

#129
unknown_trash
-1
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but isnt that what your fellow TSM fans do on every thread related to TSM?

#131
Crayzid
0
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ur soft if fans supporting their team makes you mad

#126
DucWallace
-2
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cringe + ratio + take this L

#128
unknown_trash
-2
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ok + tell me some actual facts next time + i dont like some TSM fans

#25
Bburmaning
-1
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This is so 50/50 i could see them playing in lower bracket tbh

#26
ILL
2
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INSANE FUCKING MATCHUP

#27
Bricckk
0
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TSM 2-1 But I think it could go either way especially since ENVY and TSM have been scrimming a lot plus they have a lot of vod's to research from then again TSM could improve and change things before this qualifier

#28
JustEnjoying
2
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BRING IT ON BABY SUCH A GOOD MATCH.

Kinda sad both my top 2 fav teams going first, rooting for both. This goes 2-1 either way.

#31
BeNj1z_
0
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2-1 TSM close maps

#32
EL_DIABLO
0
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its gonna be a banger and a really close game but i think TSM takes it 2-1

#33
yungjeezy
2
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I'm not going to lie, I don't know why they picked up bang, no offense. I don't even think he's that good. I'm sorry, I don't think he's good bro. I really don't... I don't. I'm just going to say it bro, I don't think he's good. Who the fucks idea was it to pick him up?

#37
Darkslayer
1
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lmao if you guys don't realize this a copypasta, babybay said this about bang only to get pooed on in grand finals

#42
moustaqimsami1
0
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Bang freaking top fragged and smashed babybay lesgo

#46
yungjeezy
1
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bang is babybays father

#91
yungbasel
0
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stepdaddy. cus he poked his momma after the fact

#34
Karma09077
0
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TSM 2-1 NV
Wardell gonna do Wardell things
Hazed gonna IGL to perfection
Subroza gonna abuse NV with Skye
Bang gonna BANG
Levi gonna do his thing

Hope we need a new refreshed TSM though. Can’t wait to see what they have under their sleeves that they haven’t shown yet!!
#TSMWIN

#35
TSMFTXFAN123
4
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TSM 2-1 NV
Wardell gonna do Wardell things
Hazed gonna IGL to perfection
Subroza gonna abuse NV with Skye
Bang gonna BANG
Levi gonna do his thing

Hope we need a new refreshed TSM though. Can’t wait to see what they have under their sleeves that they haven’t shown yet!!
#TSMWIN

#38
jblancard
1
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wheres the "being old af"

#44
TSMFTXFAN123
1
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LOL

#36
sentence
3
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Man I love TSM, but I am a Envy fan, so I will go 2-0 Envy cuz of the map pool.

#39
Darkslayer
1
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great matchup could go either way tbh, hoping for a 2-1 tsm

#43
mAko
0
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+

All of the first round matches are upsettable.

#45
BeNj1z_
0
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TSM 2-1 ENVY
https://www.vlr.gg/pickem/40d8a14a

#47
DonRobs
5
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Ez for NV as they send TSM fans back to the ground

#48
Aris
-5
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+

we TSM fans are not down bad as u LMFAO to say someshit like that cry more LOL

#50
DonRobs
-1
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TSM fans deadass think they're the best and have the best players after winning a qualifier for a qualifer against T1.5/T2 team LMAO

#51
Aris
-3
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TIER 1 TEAMS AND TIER 1.5 STAY MAD KID LMFAOOOOOO

#54
DonRobs
0
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Faze - had 1 good run from Challengers 3 to Masters 1
V1 - surprised many people to get to Berlin fair play, but we see how they decline later, proving that it was a honeymoon phase
TSM - shit throughout the whole year apart from this tournament
T1- just like TSM been bang average/shit throughout the year apart from this tournament
Luminosity - was good from January-March, have declined
GenG - probably the only T1 team there but their inconsistency makes it debatable
KCP - LMFAO
Rise - Again, very inconsistent, fumbled it when they play actual good teams

WHO IS TIER 1 HERE DONT KILL ME MAN

#123
unknown_trash
-2
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you are going to stay mad when TSM gets slapped by actual T1 teams.

#52
Aris
-4
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.

#55
DonRobs
1
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  • only watches TSM game
#56
Aris
-5
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bro ur to dumb to talk to me go touch some grass and cry

#57
DonRobs
0
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so ironic lmfao instead of crying how about you actually give some actual argument

#60
Aris
-5
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u can tell u are a SEN fan boy by how u talk so ye......

#62
DonRobs
1
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again, you are not able to provide a counter argument so you make up shit so you can go to sleep at night lmao

#61
DonRobs
3
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Sentinels, NV, XSET and 100T are the only teams that have been consistently good this whole year. The clear Tier 1 teams in NA

Every other teams in NA have been too inconsistent to be considered a Tier 1 NA team

#153
Baller_Unchained
-2
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+

Brainless fool, NV never won against TSM
Go fuckin' cry to your mama

#260
DonRobs
0
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LMAO CRY

#58
Aris
-1
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+

.

#97
Zoxlr
0
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ez for tsm nv never beat tsm and never will

#251
DonRobs
0
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LOOOOL who's crying now

#278
RacBeels8
0
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copium

#277
RacBeels8
0
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f

#49
plas
2
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ive doubted TSM for long enough but i wont for this match, TSM 2-0 NV pls dont dissapoint :)

#267
Nosey
0
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F

#53
Excaliburn
1
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TSM 2-1 Envy

Even though envy has so many vod reviews of tsm now, they can easily make a lot of changes in the next week and a half which is why they’ll most likely win

#63
item
3
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As an NV fan I have to say TSM 2-0, their form right now reminds me a lot of FaZe during Stage 1 where they rolled everyone except SEN, and NV traditionally struggles against TSM, although both teams have changed their rosters.

#64
ILL
0
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No ur wrong...whoever wins itll be a 2-1....
Both teams are literally equal and who ever wins we can say luck favoured them that day cuz if they played each other 10 times....I bet it would be a 5-5

#66
item
2
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Maybe, but I think TSM looks better atm, of course I will be cheering for NV but if TSM can win the first map in good fashion, I don't think NV will be able to stop the momentum. TSM currently plays somewhat like FaZe in Masters 1, with decent team play and a lot of star power, we'll see if NV can adapt

#73
Fire737
0
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Trust your team because Envy is an extremely powerful team.

#65
Aris
-1
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TSM 2-0 or 2-1 ENVY

#68
Asphyxia
0
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#NVHYPE

#71
Derkshu
0
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2-1 either team

#72
kiro159
0
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2-1 either team

#76
teezmageez
-4
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TSM 2-1 ENVY
according to a old clip s0m said that in scrims TSM is NVs kryptonite and they consistently beat them and that was with the old roster so this new and improved one I assume would only have similar or better results. also some of the players on NV always tweet about how TSM are the best team in the world and going to berlin after their scrims so idk but I feel like TSM got this one in the bag

#78
blicey
1
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sounds promising except they will go against SEN next round anyway LMAO

#79
hubbwi
0
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Didn't hazed tweet they couldn't beat envy in scrims like a few days ago

#80
mAko
0
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NV always destroys teams on scrims tho

#83
teezmageez
1
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hazed always tweets that but then FNS always tweets that they cant beat tsm and that tsm is the best team in the world. so its like an ongoing joke but there was an old clip where s0m said tsm was NVs kryptonite and always beat them in scrims so idk

#84
Zoxlr
0
Frags
+

victor tweeted we haven't won a scrim against you guys in weeks to chet

#81
User011098
-2
Frags
+

Tsm vs Envy Map score prediction
13-9
13-7
14-12
I hope tsm win i really wanna see them against other region but envy is super solid and if tsm win they might face RISE looking so strong also sen worlds champ

#85
pewpew
1
Frags
+

Whoever wins this game is gonna have an easier bracket run after getting beat by SEN. So it's definitely worth it.

#86
yungjeezy
0
Frags
+

SENBobstar the biggest L in this community, always editing his OG comment when hes wrong LUL TSM 2-1 NV BOOK THE FLIGHT TO BERLIN

#87
Snare
-3
Frags
+

Mindless TSM stans take my frags. 2-0 envy.

#88
FireII
0
Frags
+

W

#94
teezmageez
-1
Frags
+

ur just sad TSM shit on T1
everyone kept saying T1 would destroy TSM and it wasnt even close
TSM 2-1 ENVY close series fosho

#96
Zoxlr
-1
Frags
+

your just mad we beat t1 lmao

#100
Snare
1
Frags
+

no. envy is the best team top 2 team easily. TSM is like 6th rn

#125
unknown_trash
-4
Frags
+

you're* get your grammar checked TSM stan

#90
bigpeensheen
0
Frags
+

TSM 2-1, gonna be close, gonna have everybody shaking

#92
Aris
-1
Frags
+

2-0 for TSM

#95
roaree
-1
Frags
+

NV 1-2 TSM

#99
Shush
3
Frags
+

Alright the Yay acquisition is huge for NV. If you still can't beat TSM or more importantly qualify for masters then idk what to say (in the honeymoon period)

I'm assuming he's been practicing with team since ABX made their decision to drop players, if that's not the case then this is just a stupid decision to incorporate a player just a week before.

And yes I realise it takes time to jell with a new player.

#106
flame2802
2
Frags
+

I thought nothing was broken with NV's setup so if it fails that will be a huge L
Still got to back the boys though, i hope the chemistry works because individual skill wise they are all cracked

#102
SETSUZA
6
Frags
+

NV 2-0 yay drop 70 kills

#103
TSMFANFOREVER
-1
Frags
+

This match is still gonna be close cause Wardell still diffs Yay

#104
mattgg2015
3
Frags
+

TSM IS FINISHED

#105
alum
-2
Frags
+

wardell locked in

#108
Noone12
-3
Frags
+

TSM will win

#109
thebrownlegend
-2
Frags
+

Hot take TSM still win

#110
vollizie
1
Frags
+

Envy 2-0 TSM

#111
Crayzid
-2
Frags
+

TSM so unlucky they have to beat el diablo twice

#112
camcars
1
Frags
+

no easy way out for TSM.

#113
PicKaRuu
1
Frags
+

EZ for the boys

#115
vollizie
3
Frags
+

It's actually disgusting how hard this bracket is for TSM. They may have fucked themselves by winning that grand final against FaZe. 100T/FaZe and XSET are no joke either, but I'd rather face them than Envy and potentially Sentinels.

#118
mAko
0
Frags
+

Nobody except netero knows yay is joining nv :((((?

#161
turkey
0
Frags
+

if they win against NV and lose against SEN they most likely play faze/lg in the lower which is a pretty favorable matchup so there’s a highlight for them

#163
shammy
0
Frags
+

this is the way my bracket plays out, but i have them losing to 100T in lowers and placing 5/6

#116
Acount123
-1
Frags
+

Just look at previous head to head. nothing else to say

#130
swaglord69
3
Frags
+

Just look at previous head to head dates and rosters. nothing else to say

#117
2xJacob
-4
Frags
+

Lmao TSM wins their first qualifier in months and TSM fans think they're the best NA, it's only because all the top teams already qualified, NV 2-0 TSM. Especially with NV picking up El Diablo (yay)

#120
changevaluable2143123
3
Frags
+

none of the fans thinks they're best NA seriously is it that hard to tell when people arent being serious

#119
raka_gg
-7
Frags
+

fns = hazed
yay = subroza
food = wardell
crashies = bang
marved = leviathan

close match but envy 2-1

#127
SETSUZA
1
Frags
+

8/8

#134
DogeForPres
-1
Frags
+

These comparisons aren't even right

FNS < Hazed
yay = WARDELL
Vic > Subroza
crashes = Levi
Marved < bang

Can't predict, so I'm gonna say TSM 2-1 so I get upvoted by the hopium

#137
LouBag
0
Frags
+

Here let me help you

FNS > Hazed
Yay = Wardell
Vic > Rosa
Crashies > Levi
Marved <= Bang

#180
Yagami
0
Frags
+

FNS<Hazed ( but FNS is goated IGL)
yay= Wardell
Vic < Subroza
Crashies > Levi
Marved <= Bang

#132
Minase
-4
Frags
+

tsm 2-0 #tsm on fire

#133
Aris
-4
Frags
+

TSM 2-0 YAY DORPS 40 kills still cant win

#135
Nosey
1
Frags
+

NV 2-1 TSM

#138
zevbo
1
Frags
+

I wanna say NV 2-1 with the addition of yay but a very close one, TSM have been on a hot streak lately so a possible 2-1 TSM or 2-1 NV but Im putting my bets on NV rn

#139
gautam2909
-9
Frags
+

Dude they did not need yay. He's so overrated af. Y do they need him. They should have actually drop marved instead. Just the 8 ping factor.. NV isn't getting better. But not bad from the present stage.

#140
ILL
3
Frags
+

Bro no way u called YAY overrated....

#146
not_TenZ
3
Frags
+

lmao 6yr old tenz fanboy

#142
shax4PF
1
Frags
+

NV 2-0 with the addition of el diablo its ggs

#143
ILL
1
Frags
+

Only way TSM takes this one if the whole of NV is having a "bad" day....and the whole of TSM are feeling themselves....which sounds so dumb and jus not reality

#144
pewpew
-3
Frags
+

I change my whole prediction with that yay addition. Today is a bad day for TSM fans man...Riot should not allow this kind of trade close to a tourney.

#145
ILL
-2
Frags
+

Exactly like transfers should not be allowed during a closed tourney...unless its an emergency like sinatraa situation...such a bs transfer...

#151
pewpew
2
Frags
+

I guess Esports doesn't have this kind of rule. But, sports prohibits this sort of trades. Imagine Lebron joining the Suns right after the Lakers losing to them. It would be pretty unfair right?

#147
feeji
-4
Frags
+

Most accurate bracket ever, quote me on it.. #TSMWIN

https://www.vlr.gg/event/pickem/578/champions-tour-north-america-stage-3-challengers-playoffs

#148
M4trix
1
Frags
+

NV aren't playin around they even Hired El Diablo (YAY)
GG

#149
namzelor
2
Frags
+

NV 2-0 13-7 13-8

#154
Casual
1
Frags
+

this is going to be such a banger of a match, easily best match in the upper qf, i'm very hyped

#155
Kitz
2
Frags
+

#ENVYWIN

#156
bogdi_jesus666
0
Frags
+

yay is gonna make it hard for tsm especially because envy will play with so much lower ping that tsm but i think tsm will make it through
prediction: tsm 2 - 1 envy

#157
pixelstrash
1
Frags
+

NV 2-1 TSM, honestly can go either way, waiting to see NV yay though.

#158
M4trix
1
Frags
+

I heard TSM already preparing for Lowes

#159
Yagami
0
Frags
+

Before Yay addition, 2-1 for TSM but every games will be close like multiple OT.
After Yay addition, 2-1 for NV and not going to multiple OT. (FNS reading them like a book+ El Diablo effect)
P.s : TSM got their bad luck back. T_T

#160
kariurena
-2
Frags
+

2-0 TSM EZ

#162
yuuc1fer
-1
Frags
+

Chat lam the dmm

#164
LazyNorn
-1
Frags
+

2-0 TSM. TSM 23-21, 18-16

#165
TSM_FOREVER
-1
Frags
+

I say tsm

#166
TSM_FOREVER
-1
Frags
+

#TSMWIN

#167
exxem
1
Frags
+

NV 2-1 TSM

#168
BirdB0i
1
Frags
+

LETS GOO DIABLOO

#169
WitLitning
-1
Frags
+

there’s gonna be 120 rounds of valorant total

#170
cripsy
2
Frags
+

ENVY WİN

#171
cloud9bluefan
0
Frags
+

Should be a envy win especially with yay now would be surprised if it wasn’t

#172
emirerays
-1
Frags
+

Envy will win so ez 2-0

#173
teezmageez
0
Frags
+

i think TSM is gonna win cuz everyone is overhyping tf outta yay rn that he is gonna end up underperforming and TSM will steal the series 2-1. MARK MY WORDS

#174
shammy
0
Frags
+

I don't think yay is getting overhyped (I think the guy is just that good) but I still have TSM taking this one for two reasons:

1) TSM is on fire right now
2) Even though yay plays a role that should slot right in, the chemistry won't be perfect for Envy yet

#175
TSM_Shreyash
2
Frags
+

I think TSM will win this one.
#TSM FOR THE WIN

#176
PrTsty
1
Frags
+

Tsm never lost to ENVY, won twices so its 2:0 TSM

#177
TSMice
1
Frags
+

envy 2-1

#178
Zeeoop
1
Frags
+

2-0 NV

#179
swaglord69
1
Frags
+

easy 2-0 for envy

#181
Vonik
2
Frags
+

this is gonna be one hell of a match, we will see how good envy is with yay and if tsm is back to tier 1

#182
sardine21
3
Frags
+

TSM 90000-0 TOO EZ FOR WARDELL AND BANG BROS!

#183
DucWallace
5
Frags
+

#BANGBROS

#186
LifeIsALie
2
Frags
+

wtf lmaofo

#187
PersonHere
2
Frags
+

Bang fans are the BangBros...

#261
bhc
0
Frags
+

this aged well

#184
cnfpsworstfps
1
Frags
+

tsm tsm tsm

#185
LifeIsALie
1
Frags
+

110% NV 2-1 TSM
At least 2 maps will go into Overtime

#188
ZEMTAH
3
Frags
+

TSM 2-1 NV.

The yay signing for NV really means this can go either way, but historically this has been a good stylisitc matchup for TSM and they are in excellent form at the moment. It's the kinda game where NV can make the right strategic plays and lose rounds anyway.

Will say I've also never been the biggest believe in this NV team, they have a high peak, but I've seen them lose too many big, winnable matches.

#189
isashoow
0
Frags
+

LET'S GO TSM #TSMWIN

#190
itsmedavidjones
0
Frags
+

I dont care who wins.. all i need are some good ass close matches... 2-1 all OTs

#191
Tundai
0
Frags
+

Envy win these

#192
NuTBreAker
0
Frags
+

Coach myth is back baby!

#193
Sp00kydonuts
1
Frags
+

🍩

#194
kocunar
0
Frags
+

Really hype match

#195
sKi
0
Frags
+

the closest ine too you'll see today

#198
kocunar
0
Frags
+

I hope so

We have coach Myth in full action too

#197
tinted
0
Frags
+

lets go envy! hoping for a close match, though

#199
beatje
0
Frags
+

HYPEEEE

#200
LouBag
0
Frags
+

60% NV win
40% TSM

Either team can take it. Should be a banger.

#202
sKi
0
Frags
+

if either team can take it, shiuldn't it be 50-50% ?

#203
LouBag
0
Frags
+

No lol. That’s not how odds work.

I think NV is favored, but not so much favored that it would be shocking for them to lose.

#201
hilo0829
0
Frags
+

depends on how yay fit in
teams dont usually perform well right after roster change tho
gonna be good matchh

#206
pewpew
0
Frags
+

Pure duelists like yay will fit seamlessly just like TenZ did with SEN. All they have to do is listen to the IGL and frag. No play set ups like controller or support player.

#207
Outte
0
Frags
+

idk i usually notice a honeymoon period, especially when its a massive upgrade and not just a change to make a change. Also, u are commenting this on a TSM match, who have gone 9-0 since they picked up leviathan

#205
deemo
0
Frags
+

NV 2-0

#208
Rizvi
1
Frags
+

That first pistol round was beautiful

#209
M4trix
-3
Frags
+

envy WHO????

#240
hubbwi
0
Frags
+

?

#242
M4trix
2
Frags
+

well NV played good ngl
heads up

#210
M4trix
0
Frags
+

.

#211
schlong
1
Frags
+

Its ok we lose ecos no worry

#212
TinglyPiano
-9
Frags
+

imagine calling yay top 3 lmao

#215
Flamephoenix11
5
Frags
+

yeah hes top 2 for sure

#213
beatje
0
Frags
+

El diablo has arrived

#214
swaglord69
1
Frags
+

I LIKE HOW THIS IS GOING

#216
Neon74
1
Frags
+

AHAHAHAHAH TSM
Whenever Myth watches, TSM lose

#217
beatje
2
Frags
+

Yayster too strong

#218
ComradeVonAustria
0
Frags
+

if tsm didnt lose 3-0 5v3, they would have easily won this map, unlucky

#219
Gunzout97
4
Frags
+

If TSM didn't lose the rounds they lost they would have won

#220
Neon74
1
Frags
+

If I had a dollar for every time TSM get flanked I would be a millionaire

#221
DeathStroKE
0
Frags
+

Gg

#222
beatje
1
Frags
+

Kinda easy

#223
Rizvi
7
Frags
+

This Haven map was literally IGL diff. FNS was way better than Hazed as a leader and as Killjoy.
We go again!

#226
AltonBu02
1
Frags
+

Also just a team diff, they had the exact same comp and every single agent played better on Envy LMAO (Victor was more impactful than roza for me, winning them their first round when they were down 3-0)

#227
pewpew
1
Frags
+

True, the reads on TSM was on point and TSM team coordination was kinda whacky so 13-7 deserved.

#224
WitLitning
1
Frags
+

damn tsm needs to watch their flanks better jesus they got fucked up by flanks

#228
zenv
0
Frags
+

unlucky really

#229
Tundai
0
Frags
+

gg

#230
ComradeVonAustria
-1
Frags
+

11-4 11-13 :D

#235
ComradeVonAustria
2
Frags
+

13-11 I meant unlucky xd

#231
TinglyPiano
-1
Frags
+

remember when ppl say TSM is now top team because they got a unproven player (bang) and a overrated coach (chet)?? KEKW

#232
item
0
Frags
+

HOLY SHIT my heart on that 11-10 round

#233
M4trix
4
Frags
+

imagine putting a trip somewhere and that trip broke
and u don't look that way?

#234
M4trix
-3
Frags
+

GG
take that map 3 HOME TSM

#236
ASD
3
Frags
+

nearly blew a 10-2 lead on a map nv has never won OMEGALUL

#238
pewpew
0
Frags
+

Breeze is always hard to defend. I have watched multiple EU breeze matches and its always masacre on attack side.

#237
Flamephoenix11
4
Frags
+

credit where credits due TSM won map 2 while 4v5ing very impressive

#243
Forsity
0
Frags
+

Wdym I didnt watch map 2, can u explain?

#244
big_chungus69
0
Frags
+

bang 4/19

hes just making fun by saying that it was basically a 4v5 because bang was so trash

#254
Forsity
0
Frags
+

Ohhh unlucky they got lowers for sure

#239
beatje
1
Frags
+

Let’s gooo

#241
joe_cool
0
Frags
+

only tuned in to game 3 but was pretty insane from both sides. i thought tsm would win, pleasantly surprised. also nice to hear ender casting

#245
hilo0829
-2
Frags
+

bang and levi showing their true potential!!

#248
FilthyAnimal
0
Frags
+

Congrats NV, one more for u guys! And GL TSM in lowers

#249
bhc
-1
Frags
+

TSM COPIUM

#250
TSMAL1X
0
Frags
+

NERF YAY HOLY SHIT

#252
zet1wnl
-1
Frags
+

KEKW

#253
HaSanity
-1
Frags
+

thanks nv!

#255
MAXX013
2
Frags
+

Man!
Bang and leviathan just underperformed a lot. A lot means a lot. They were playing like that one bottom frag whom we carry at our rank games. And then he says "thanks guys, GG".

#262
cdn
0
Frags
+

xD and its always an omen or cypher

#265
lofi
0
Frags
+

I think people just over rated their performance from the qualifier but its understandable after watching how successful they were but it was still to be seen how they would stack up against the best NA teams so ig we have a little sense of it now. I wanna see them go to Berlin but if they cant beat envy im not sure if they at that level yet tbh.

#256
pewpew
-3
Frags
+

TSM is gonna do well in lowers. I think Levi and Bang mental is gonna get better and TSM showed that they can beat tier 1 teams.

#268
Nosey
1
Frags
+

Sorry, but they must lose against 100T/XSET

#258
tinted
3
Frags
+

i wasn't able to watch but NICE! yay too strong

#263
lofi
3
Frags
+

Not even double sentinel on ascent defense could stop NV they really deserved the W they resurrected Yay from the dead on some villain shit lmao they have marved and the devil himself they really are the antagonist of the pro scene rn

#264
LooseCiz
4
Frags
+

If NV sticked with their old roster TSM would of won. Their past match ups had TSM winning all of them. COPIUM

#270
mclife20
0
Frags
+

If TSM sticked with their old roster they could not go to challenger playoffs lul

#269
xLinksz
-1
Frags
+

How happy I am when TSM loses

#275
Zoxlr
0
Frags
+

your a kru fan irrelevant team plus irrelevant region

#276
xLinksz
0
Frags
+

Sorry, I only talk to people who went to Reykjavik or who are going to Berlin.

#273
vxnyxk_
1
Frags
+

Wardell and Roza Deserves better :(

#274
Blazieboy
1
Frags
+

FNS diff. The number of rounds he clutched was really the difference maker. Also Bang and Levi got diffed real hard.

#279
kapalrevolution
0
Frags
+

sheeesh! tsm took a map off envy! how tf did they do that!

tsm is the best team in the galaxy!

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