yeah but they can all shoot though

i perform the term bad mental/energy rather than bots

If they can take it to 5 maps, then i think Amerias is a 3 team region

"Johnqt N4rrate Bang are bots."

Sure....

depends on their performance against g2

Y0stty

is FNS a noob then?

Actually don't answer that.

you should also mention how they have the best odin user in the game (no hate to brawk, he genuinely gets insane value with the odin)

yeah and it's genuinely not his fault

in these maps you have to use the odin because that's genuinely how broken it is in Corrode and Lotus

BRAWKTAGON

I'm completely fine with the Odin on maps that aren't Corrode and Lotus. But when the walls of the map are paper thin, the odin does significantly lower the skill ceiling of this game and make the game also incredibly boring to watch. Nerf its penetration, its cost, its ammo, idc. I'm tired of people calling others noobs when others say they want the odin to be nerfed. On maps like Corrode and Lotus it's overly oppressive and that's a fact.

Thank you for coming to my ted talk.

please provide a warning next time before you jumpscare me

thank you

fr tho they all look pretty good

maybe idrc about what OP is saying im just saying brawk doing this well is insanely rare even if he is a great player

but yeah s0m did but up boostio numbers today ngl

He's underrated but this is a life game lol

+31 is abnormal on sova and vyse in 4 maps

All good vo0kashu drops 80 on Sen and DRG win 2-0

Current form BLG clears current form Sen

BLG is wishing to match up with Sen more than Sen is wishing to match up with BLG

I have a feeling they will perform much better than NRG in Champs

Plot armor + experience diff

eh stage 1 verno when he wasn't igling > stage 2 brawk

we will see at champs though

The 90% of VLR users saying that Brawk is better than Verno mechanically are actually crazy

Feels like recency bias tbh especially since Verno was put in a role that makes it extremely hard for him to frag out

i don't feel bad for him at all. Why would I, he and C9 have looked good in playoffs so far. I'm just pointing out what I see on vlr. Someone being the "worst player" on the team doesn't mean anything to be honest and someone defending him doesn't mean they are pitying him lol.

every post on vlr has no point there's no problem with making a thread about it anyways lol

I'm saying the fact that net is performing well recently and still being blamed like he's the sole reason for them losing rounds/games makes him the most overhated player currently

I'm not talking about the player overall, I agree that net is a mid player that does his role

but I also think he's overhated by a lot of people currently, especially sen fans

and when did i move goal posts, this has always been about who currently the most overhated player is

"shut up dawg", can we not just have a normal convo

the point of this thread is talking about who is overhated CURRENTLY

net has performed good these last 2 games and is still hated the most and asuna has looked like one of the worst players in Americas recently

and i never said asuna fully deserved his hate lol, but if you want to look back past recent performances we can look at their careers
and in that case well, I don't think I have to say anymore

I mean if you looked at the last 2 games you would think oxy is a mid player

the narrative that c9 is oxy and friends is one of the dumbest ones ever imo

retired but consistenly dropping -20 and giving horrible calling surely doesn't mean he wsa overhated

just hated

it's between him and c0m for sure

but I would say c0m is generally more likeable to public because he doesn't stand up

bro literally no one hates on zellsis right now I can promise you that without it being ragebait

boostio is retired

c0m get brought up about as much as net when he isn't playing

and asuna, well let's just say that his last 2 performances have warrranted some of the hate he's getting

while net has played well recently and people are still shitting on him like he's the reason they lost

Yes, his fragging looks better, but to be honest that's never been the main value he provides to his team. His calling, vibes, util, and general impact have stayed consistent and are also why I think Zellsis was the one who used to get most underserved amount of hate. However, right now I'd say it's easily net.

this is what i mean how is he awful

he's a decent player that stands up

I mean why would people talk alot about a player when they aren't playing. Their opinions of that player don't just go away because they aren't playing lol. If you were to ask a user who they hate more between c0m, tex, and net 99 percent of the time it's going to be net (because he stands up).

yes but this thread is about who's more overhated

i would say icy deserves a lot of the hate he's gotten recently his performance has genuinely been horrible this split

And I say this as someone who still believes in him

its comparable

net is more valuable than icy rn for sure tho

I would say the hate for net is more unwarranted because icy has genuinely been hurting his team when it comes to results while 99 percent of hate when it comes to net is because he stands lol

yes and this thread is about who is the most overhated player right now

and everything i said still holds true

First of all, not true. The narrative has mostly shifted from zellsis is shit (which he never was) to zellsis is valuable to sen. Also, most of the shit about net is genuine hate, 90 percent of zellsis hate threads I've seen recently are either ragebait or dismissed as ragebait.

People genuinely think net provides no value to his team, while no one actually thinks that about zellsis. There are just more threads about zellsis because he's on sen lol.

I promise you other players on his caliber do not get even close to the amount of hate he does. Even today, there were an insane amount of sen fans that got ragebaited by net standing.

no he is not a star nor did I ever claim he is, but the way people are talking about him you would think he literally does nothing for the team.

It's not even just in vlr, people in twitch say the same shit. Even if you are just a stats watcher, his stats are no where near as bad as you would think from what people are saying.

I see users saying that he does nothing for his team when that isn't even true. He doesn't put up superstar level stats, but his does his role well and brings energy to the team. He's also been very impactful in playoffs so far. The only reason people hate him is because he stands up a lot which he does to hype up his team in crucial moments. Sen fans are probably the worst when it comes to net hate.

Edit: meant Americas in title not America lol

Sorry, but you did not play lev at their best

Sato was the only one playing that day. The lev vs kru (especially the last 2 maps) has been lev at their best.

are you the instalock clove in every other game i play

I'll start:

Ascent: Sova/Raze/Killjoy

Haven: Sova

Bind: Sova

Icebox: Sova

Lotus: Sova/Raze/Vyse

Icebox: Sova

Split: Raze/Astra/Killjoy

Pearl: Sova/Vyse

Breeze: Sova

Abyss: Sova/Chamber

Sunset: Sova/Deadlock

I wanna be the very best
Like no one ever was
To catch them is my real test
To train them is my cause
I will travel across the land
Searching far and wide
Teach Pokémon to understand
The power that's inside

(Pokémon
Gotta catch 'em all) It's you and me
I know it's my destiny (Pokémon)
Oh, you're my best friend
In a world we must defend (Pokémon
Gotta catch 'em all) A heart so true
Our courage will pull us through
You teach me and I'll teach you (Ooh, ooh)
Pokémon! (Gotta catch 'em all)
Gotta catch 'em all

MIBR FNS

not possible since if Lev get 2 wins they beat MIBR h2h and make playoffs over MIBR

Lev are NOT losing out they clear everyone in Americas

but thanks for letting me know, I just hope one of them makes it so I can root for a team in Champs

im pretty sure mibr cant make playoffs they need g2 and sen to be finalists

the problem with that is how are both lev and mibr gonna make champs then if lev needs to win Americas to qualify to champs?

??? so we gonna just act like c0m is gonna let that happen

Bet, can't wait to see Lev, Mibr, G2, and Sen in Champs!

to Champs? I sure hope so.

name + flair

eg 2-10 comeback against sen is the greatest viewing experience I've ever had watching valorant

and eg will win again

genuine superteam

im not joking look up FNS highlights and you'll see the truth

Nrg did get hella lucky on bind. Those random spams single handidly lost Mibr bind. Like when MIBR looks back on the VOD, I don't even know what they are supposed to do differently lol. At least on attack side.