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Wednesday, August 11th
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Maps/Stats
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Envy
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Haven
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1.36 1.10 1.76 | 230 187 295 | 18 9 9 | / 11 7 4 / | 10 8 2 | +7 +2 +5 | 85% 83% 88% | 159 139 188 | 26% 42% 18% | 2 0 2 | 0 0 0 | +2 0 +2 | |
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1.20 1.38 0.93 | 271 298 231 | 20 13 7 | / 15 8 7 / | 3 2 1 | +5 +5 0 | 55% 67% 38% | 186 204 160 | 34% 19% 78% | 6 4 2 | 2 1 1 | +4 +3 +1 | |
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1.18 0.96 1.51 | 212 215 207 | 16 11 5 | / 10 7 3 / | 4 1 3 | +6 +4 +2 | 80% 83% 75% | 135 132 141 | 19% 20% 18% | 0 0 0 | 2 2 0 | -2 -2 0 | |
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1.10 1.00 1.24 | 235 206 279 | 16 8 8 | / 12 7 5 / | 4 2 2 | +4 +1 +3 | 70% 67% 75% | 137 159 103 | 24% 22% 27% | 2 1 1 | 2 2 0 | 0 -1 +1 | |
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0.74 0.74 0.75 | 159 188 118 | 10 7 3 | / 14 9 5 / | 4 2 2 | -4 -2 -2 | 80% 75% 88% | 89 116 49 | 30% 38% 11% | 1 0 1 | 3 2 1 | -2 -2 0 |
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1.19 1.07 1.27 | 236 233 240 | 17 7 10 | / 16 6 10 / | 4 2 2 | +1 +1 0 | 75% 75% 75% | 133 115 145 | 21% 21% 20% | 2 1 1 | 0 0 0 | +2 +1 +1 | |
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0.94 0.96 0.93 | 179 199 167 | 14 6 8 | / 15 6 9 / | 8 5 3 | -1 0 -1 | 65% 75% 58% | 127 154 110 | 28% 29% 28% | 1 0 1 | 2 1 1 | -1 -1 0 | |
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0.84 1.05 0.70 | 195 238 167 | 13 6 7 | / 18 7 11 / | 6 3 3 | -5 -1 -4 | 65% 88% 50% | 138 171 116 | 33% 25% 42% | 3 0 3 | 1 1 0 | +2 -1 +3 | |
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0.76 0.24 1.10 | 142 102 170 | 9 3 6 | / 14 7 7 / | 4 0 4 | -5 -4 -1 | 55% 50% 58% | 103 64 128 | 36% 50% 32% | 1 0 1 | 3 1 2 | -2 -1 -1 | |
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0.58 0.32 0.75 | 135 97 161 | 9 2 7 | / 17 7 10 / | 5 2 3 | -8 -5 -3 | 55% 63% 50% | 91 68 107 | 28% 20% 31% | 2 1 1 | 5 3 2 | -3 -2 -1 |
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1.32 1.10 1.22 | 257 282 225 | 60 36 24 | / 44 22 22 / | 11 6 5 | +16 +14 +2 | 69% 69% 69% | 162 182 138 | 24% 17% 33% | 18 12 6 | 7 6 1 | +11 +6 +5 | |
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1.12 1.13 1.13 | 226 222 234 | 53 30 23 | / 42 22 20 / | 10 4 6 | +11 +8 +3 | 68% 67% 69% | 147 170 118 | 23% 23% 24% | 6 2 4 | 4 2 2 | +2 0 +2 | |
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0.90 1.17 1.02 | 195 171 220 | 46 24 22 | / 39 23 16 / | 16 8 8 | +7 +1 +6 | 71% 78% 62% | 117 107 130 | 22% 24% 20% | 5 3 2 | 7 3 4 | -2 0 -2 | |
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0.96 0.96 0.96 | 182 189 175 | 43 26 17 | / 40 24 16 / | 19 11 8 | +3 +2 +1 | 78% 75% 83% | 119 118 120 | 27% 31% 23% | 5 0 5 | 3 2 1 | +2 -2 +4 | |
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0.89 0.97 0.92 | 193 193 191 | 41 22 19 | / 43 23 20 / | 13 6 7 | -2 -1 -1 | 77% 75% 79% | 112 111 113 | 24% 24% 24% | 4 2 2 | 6 4 2 | -2 -2 0 |
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1.10 1.32 1.22 | 257 249 270 | 57 24 33 | / 48 21 27 / | 15 9 6 | +9 +3 +6 | 74% 79% 69% | 153 151 155 | 20% 16% 24% | 5 2 3 | 6 2 4 | -1 0 -1 | |
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1.58 0.73 1.11 | 241 318 182 | 58 34 24 | / 52 21 31 / | 14 8 6 | +6 +13 -7 | 66% 79% 56% | 154 196 121 | 34% 28% 45% | 7 3 4 | 3 2 1 | +4 +1 +3 | |
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0.81 0.68 0.74 | 152 154 159 | 36 16 20 | / 48 21 27 / | 12 5 7 | -12 -5 -7 | 60% 62% 58% | 93 92 93 | 28% 27% 29% | 8 4 4 | 11 6 5 | -3 -2 -1 | |
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0.49 0.84 0.68 | 133 106 156 | 28 12 16 | / 47 23 24 / | 16 6 10 | -19 -11 -8 | 52% 45% 58% | 87 63 107 | 22% 35% 19% | 3 1 2 | 9 4 5 | -6 -3 -3 | |
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0.41 0.88 0.67 | 134 100 155 | 29 9 20 | / 48 23 25 / | 15 8 7 | -19 -14 -5 | 57% 59% 56% | 93 78 105 | 24% 17% 29% | 4 0 4 | 9 5 4 | -5 -5 0 |
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1.04 1.13 0.94 | 240 251 230 | 20 11 9 | / 18 7 11 / | 3 0 3 | +2 +4 -2 | 75% 67% 83% | 149 162 135 | 16% 21% 13% | 8 5 3 | 4 4 0 | +4 +1 +3 | |
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1.02 1.00 1.05 | 239 246 233 | 21 12 9 | / 18 8 10 / | 3 2 1 | +3 +4 -1 | 58% 67% 50% | 168 198 139 | 22% 15% 32% | 2 1 1 | 2 0 2 | 0 +1 -1 | |
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0.94 1.19 0.69 | 202 272 134 | 17 12 5 | / 14 8 6 / | 2 2 0 | +3 +4 -1 | 79% 83% 75% | 123 156 89 | 27% 26% 27% | 1 0 1 | 1 0 1 | 0 0 0 | |
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0.84 1.09 0.60 | 155 200 111 | 13 8 5 | / 15 6 9 / | 4 2 2 | -2 +2 -4 | 75% 83% 67% | 84 92 76 | 27% 17% 43% | 1 1 0 | 1 0 1 | 0 +1 -1 | |
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0.66 0.87 0.44 | 135 124 147 | 11 6 5 | / 17 7 10 / | 7 5 2 | -6 -1 -5 | 58% 83% 33% | 92 76 108 | 21% 21% 21% | 1 1 0 | 3 0 3 | -2 +1 -3 |
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1.45 1.45 1.46 | 307 281 334 | 24 12 12 | / 16 7 9 / | 5 4 1 | +8 +5 +3 | 79% 92% 67% | 181 186 177 | 19% 15% 24% | 3 1 2 | 3 1 2 | 0 0 0 | |
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1.31 1.98 0.64 | 255 379 133 | 23 17 6 | / 16 7 9 / | 4 3 1 | +7 +10 -3 | 67% 83% 50% | 164 236 93 | 39% 32% 78% | 3 3 0 | 1 1 0 | +2 +2 0 | |
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1.14 1.38 0.90 | 229 235 225 | 20 11 9 | / 14 6 8 / | 1 0 1 | +6 +5 +1 | 71% 67% 75% | 122 136 107 | 38% 36% 40% | 4 2 2 | 0 0 0 | +4 +2 +2 | |
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0.75 0.91 0.60 | 136 130 143 | 11 6 5 | / 17 7 10 / | 9 6 3 | -6 -1 -5 | 54% 67% 42% | 80 79 81 | 25% 33% 19% | 1 1 0 | 5 2 3 | -4 -1 -3 | |
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0.27 0.16 0.37 | 57 37 79 | 4 1 3 | / 19 9 10 / | 4 1 3 | -15 -8 -7 | 54% 58% 50% | 50 29 72 | 16% 0% 27% | 0 0 0 | 4 1 3 | -4 -1 -3 |
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1.44 1.43 1.45 | 260 297 212 | 20 12 8 | / 11 7 4 / | 5 4 1 | +9 +5 +4 | 76% 75% 78% | 156 181 123 | 20% 10% 40% | 4 3 1 | 1 1 0 | +3 +2 +1 | |
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1.27 1.37 1.15 | 205 215 194 | 16 10 6 | / 12 7 5 / | 3 0 3 | +4 +3 +1 | 76% 67% 89% | 133 153 105 | 24% 34% 14% | 2 0 2 | 0 0 0 | +2 0 +2 | |
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1.27 0.85 1.83 | 239 172 328 | 19 7 12 | / 12 9 3 / | 5 2 3 | +7 -2 +9 | 76% 67% 89% | 129 113 151 | 25% 33% 21% | 4 2 2 | 2 1 1 | +2 +1 +1 | |
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1.19 0.84 1.65 | 264 191 364 | 18 7 11 | / 14 8 6 / | 5 2 3 | +4 -1 +5 | 76% 67% 89% | 165 124 219 | 19% 19% 19% | 2 1 1 | 2 2 0 | 0 -1 +1 | |
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0.60 0.60 0.60 | 115 108 124 | 8 5 3 | / 15 9 6 / | 7 1 6 | -7 -4 -3 | 71% 58% 89% | 77 60 100 | 26% 29% 25% | 2 0 2 | 2 2 0 | 0 -2 +2 |
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1.14 1.53 0.85 | 272 307 247 | 22 11 11 | / 18 7 11 / | 4 2 2 | +4 +4 0 | 67% 67% 67% | 158 164 154 | 30% 24% 36% | 1 0 1 | 1 0 1 | 0 0 0 | |
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0.98 0.66 1.22 | 229 220 237 | 16 5 11 | / 16 8 8 / | 6 3 3 | 0 -3 +3 | 67% 67% 67% | 141 138 143 | 20% 14% 27% | 0 0 0 | 3 1 2 | -3 -1 -2 | |
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0.88 0.26 1.34 | 167 97 220 | 11 2 9 | / 14 8 6 / | 3 2 1 | -3 -6 +3 | 52% 44% 58% | 108 75 132 | 24% 13% 32% | 3 0 3 | 3 3 0 | 0 -3 +3 | |
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0.53 0.16 0.81 | 122 77 156 | 8 3 5 | / 16 9 7 / | 3 0 3 | -8 -6 -2 | 48% 11% 75% | 82 42 112 | 13% 20% 12% | 1 0 1 | 1 1 0 | 0 -1 +1 | |
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0.43 0.48 0.39 | 93 96 91 | 7 3 4 | / 17 8 9 / | 6 3 3 | -10 -5 -5 | 52% 56% 50% | 60 56 64 | 18% 19% 18% | 2 1 1 | 6 3 3 | -4 -2 -2 |
Head-to-head
Past Matches
TUSH4R [#17]I think the winner of Playoffs Finals will face Envy so it might be NV vs Faze
winner faces envy
Flamephoenix11 [#24]2-0 for Envy 13-0 13-0 so fun to bait tsm fans
were just giving u the attention u clearly need
SENBobstar [#20]Who's laughing now, TSM is not that gud yet. Downvote all u want, haters gotta hate.
you just love showing 0 support on tsm
yungjeezy [#33]I'm not going to lie, I don't know why they picked up bang, no offense. I don't even think he's that good. I'm sorry, I don't think he's good bro. I really don't... I don't. I'm just going to say it bro, I don't think he's good. Who the fucks idea was it to pick him up?
lmao if you guys don't realize this a copypasta, babybay said this about bang only to get pooed on in grand finals
TSMFTXFAN123 [#35]TSM 2-1 NV
Wardell gonna do Wardell things
Hazed gonna IGL to perfection
Subroza gonna abuse NV with Skye
Bang gonna BANG
Levi gonna do his thingHope we need a new refreshed TSM though. Can’t wait to see what they have under their sleeves that they haven’t shown yet!!
#TSMWIN
wheres the "being old af"
SENBobstar [#20]Who's laughing now, TSM is not that gud yet. Downvote all u want, haters gotta hate.
this guy has been writing on 2-1 TSM for every match.. and guess what.. TSM won all of them lol
SENBobstar [#20]Who's laughing now, TSM is not that gud yet. Downvote all u want, haters gotta hate.
SENclownstar is back with his shit takes
yungjeezy [#33]I'm not going to lie, I don't know why they picked up bang, no offense. I don't even think he's that good. I'm sorry, I don't think he's good bro. I really don't... I don't. I'm just going to say it bro, I don't think he's good. Who the fucks idea was it to pick him up?
Bang freaking top fragged and smashed babybay lesgo
DonRobs [#47]Ez for NV as they send TSM fans back to the ground
we TSM fans are not down bad as u LMFAO to say someshit like that cry more LOL
Aris [#48]we TSM fans are not down bad as u LMFAO to say someshit like that cry more LOL
TSM fans deadass think they're the best and have the best players after winning a qualifier for a qualifer against T1.5/T2 team LMAO
DonRobs [#50]TSM fans deadass think they're the best and have the best players after winning a qualifier for a qualifer against T1.5/T2 team LMAO
TIER 1 TEAMS AND TIER 1.5 STAY MAD KID LMFAOOOOOO
DonRobs [#50]TSM fans deadass think they're the best and have the best players after winning a qualifier for a qualifer against T1.5/T2 team LMAO
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Aris [#51]TIER 1 TEAMS AND TIER 1.5 STAY MAD KID LMFAOOOOOO
Faze - had 1 good run from Challengers 3 to Masters 1
V1 - surprised many people to get to Berlin fair play, but we see how they decline later, proving that it was a honeymoon phase
TSM - shit throughout the whole year apart from this tournament
T1- just like TSM been bang average/shit throughout the year apart from this tournament
Luminosity - was good from January-March, have declined
GenG - probably the only T1 team there but their inconsistency makes it debatable
KCP - LMFAO
Rise - Again, very inconsistent, fumbled it when they play actual good teams
WHO IS TIER 1 HERE DONT KILL ME MAN
Aris [#56]bro ur to dumb to talk to me go touch some grass and cry
so ironic lmfao instead of crying how about you actually give some actual argument
Darkslayer [#41]SENclownstar is back with his shit takes
i mean NV 2-1 TSM is not a bad take at all
DonRobs [#57]so ironic lmfao instead of crying how about you actually give some actual argument
u can tell u are a SEN fan boy by how u talk so ye......
DonRobs [#57]so ironic lmfao instead of crying how about you actually give some actual argument
Sentinels, NV, XSET and 100T are the only teams that have been consistently good this whole year. The clear Tier 1 teams in NA
Every other teams in NA have been too inconsistent to be considered a Tier 1 NA team
Aris [#60]u can tell u are a SEN fan boy by how u talk so ye......
again, you are not able to provide a counter argument so you make up shit so you can go to sleep at night lmao
item [#63]As an NV fan I have to say TSM 2-0, their form right now reminds me a lot of FaZe during Stage 1 where they rolled everyone except SEN, and NV traditionally struggles against TSM, although both teams have changed their rosters.
No ur wrong...whoever wins itll be a 2-1....
Both teams are literally equal and who ever wins we can say luck favoured them that day cuz if they played each other 10 times....I bet it would be a 5-5
ILL [#64]No ur wrong...whoever wins itll be a 2-1....
Both teams are literally equal and who ever wins we can say luck favoured them that day cuz if they played each other 10 times....I bet it would be a 5-5
Maybe, but I think TSM looks better atm, of course I will be cheering for NV but if TSM can win the first map in good fashion, I don't think NV will be able to stop the momentum. TSM currently plays somewhat like FaZe in Masters 1, with decent team play and a lot of star power, we'll see if NV can adapt
FireII [#59]i mean NV 2-1 TSM is not a bad take at all
yeah but thats not what he thinks at all. he only said that because TSM is the opposing team
item [#63]As an NV fan I have to say TSM 2-0, their form right now reminds me a lot of FaZe during Stage 1 where they rolled everyone except SEN, and NV traditionally struggles against TSM, although both teams have changed their rosters.
Trust your team because Envy is an extremely powerful team.
TSM 2-1 ENVY
according to a old clip s0m said that in scrims TSM is NVs kryptonite and they consistently beat them and that was with the old roster so this new and improved one I assume would only have similar or better results. also some of the players on NV always tweet about how TSM are the best team in the world and going to berlin after their scrims so idk but I feel like TSM got this one in the bag
teezmageez [#76]TSM 2-1 ENVY
according to a old clip s0m said that in scrims TSM is NVs kryptonite and they consistently beat them and that was with the old roster so this new and improved one I assume would only have similar or better results. also some of the players on NV always tweet about how TSM are the best team in the world and going to berlin after their scrims so idk but I feel like TSM got this one in the bag
sounds promising except they will go against SEN next round anyway LMAO
teezmageez [#76]TSM 2-1 ENVY
according to a old clip s0m said that in scrims TSM is NVs kryptonite and they consistently beat them and that was with the old roster so this new and improved one I assume would only have similar or better results. also some of the players on NV always tweet about how TSM are the best team in the world and going to berlin after their scrims so idk but I feel like TSM got this one in the bag
Didn't hazed tweet they couldn't beat envy in scrims like a few days ago
hubbwi [#79]Didn't hazed tweet they couldn't beat envy in scrims like a few days ago
NV always destroys teams on scrims tho
moustaqimsami1 [#40]this guy has been writing on 2-1 TSM for every match.. and guess what.. TSM won all of them lol
I dont feel they will this one i feel like they are not stabel yet
hubbwi [#79]Didn't hazed tweet they couldn't beat envy in scrims like a few days ago
hazed always tweets that but then FNS always tweets that they cant beat tsm and that tsm is the best team in the world. so its like an ongoing joke but there was an old clip where s0m said tsm was NVs kryptonite and always beat them in scrims so idk
hubbwi [#79]Didn't hazed tweet they couldn't beat envy in scrims like a few days ago
victor tweeted we haven't won a scrim against you guys in weeks to chet
SENBobstar [#20]Who's laughing now, TSM is not that gud yet. Downvote all u want, haters gotta hate.
you are actually TSM fan
Snare [#87]Mindless TSM stans take my frags. 2-0 envy.
ur just sad TSM shit on T1
everyone kept saying T1 would destroy TSM and it wasnt even close
TSM 2-1 ENVY close series fosho
DonRobs [#47]Ez for NV as they send TSM fans back to the ground
ez for tsm nv never beat tsm and never will
SENBobstar [#20]Who's laughing now, TSM is not that gud yet. Downvote all u want, haters gotta hate.
Edit: ratio
Alright the Yay acquisition is huge for NV. If you still can't beat TSM or more importantly qualify for masters then idk what to say (in the honeymoon period)
I'm assuming he's been practicing with team since ABX made their decision to drop players, if that's not the case then this is just a stupid decision to incorporate a player just a week before.
And yes I realise it takes time to jell with a new player.
Zoxlr [#96]your just mad we beat t1 lmao
no. envy is the best team top 2 team easily. TSM is like 6th rn
Shush [#99]Alright the Yay acquisition is huge for NV. If you still can't beat TSM or more importantly qualify for masters then idk what to say (in the honeymoon period)
I'm assuming he's been practicing with team since ABX made their decision to drop players, if that's not the case then this is just a stupid decision to incorporate a player just a week before.
And yes I realise it takes time to jell with a new player.
I thought nothing was broken with NV's setup so if it fails that will be a huge L
Still got to back the boys though, i hope the chemistry works because individual skill wise they are all cracked
vollizie [#115]It's actually disgusting how hard this bracket is for TSM. They may have fucked themselves by winning that grand final against FaZe. 100T/FaZe and XSET are no joke either, but I'd rather face them than Envy and potentially Sentinels.
Nobody except netero knows yay is joining nv :((((?
2xJacob [#117]Lmao TSM wins their first qualifier in months and TSM fans think they're the best NA, it's only because all the top teams already qualified, NV 2-0 TSM. Especially with NV picking up El Diablo (yay)
none of the fans thinks they're best NA seriously is it that hard to tell when people arent being serious
dreski [#30]you just love showing 0 support on tsm
thats like saying you wont support any team that will go up against TSM. Let him be if hes a TSM fan, i see other delusional TSM fans act like him about TSM, so why cant he?
Crayzid [#29]were just giving u the attention u clearly need
please dont talk to us about attention. TSM fans have to spam every match with TSM WIN 2-0 EZ all the time for attention
Aris [#51]TIER 1 TEAMS AND TIER 1.5 STAY MAD KID LMFAOOOOOO
you are going to stay mad when TSM gets slapped by actual T1 teams.
unknown_trash [#122]please dont talk to us about attention. TSM fans have to spam every match with TSM WIN 2-0 EZ all the time for attention
not me
unknown_trash [#122]please dont talk to us about attention. TSM fans have to spam every match with TSM WIN 2-0 EZ all the time for attention
cringe + ratio + take this L
raka_gg [#119]fns = hazed
yay = subroza
food = wardell
crashies = bang
marved = leviathanclose match but envy 2-1
8/8
DucWallace [#126]cringe + ratio + take this L
ok + tell me some actual facts next time + i dont like some TSM fans
Acount123 [#116]Just look at previous head to head. nothing else to say
Just look at previous head to head dates and rosters. nothing else to say
unknown_trash [#129]but isnt that what your fellow TSM fans do on every thread related to TSM?
ur soft if fans supporting their team makes you mad
raka_gg [#119]fns = hazed
yay = subroza
food = wardell
crashies = bang
marved = leviathanclose match but envy 2-1
These comparisons aren't even right
FNS < Hazed
yay = WARDELL
Vic > Subroza
crashes = Levi
Marved < bang
Can't predict, so I'm gonna say TSM 2-1 so I get upvoted by the hopium
Murphy [#114]U still think tsm will win?
it’s a fair assumption, NV don’t have much time to integrate him and we haven’t ever seen yay on a team other than ABX
DogeForPres [#134]These comparisons aren't even right
FNS < Hazed
yay = WARDELL
Vic > Subroza
crashes = Levi
Marved < bangCan't predict, so I'm gonna say TSM 2-1 so I get upvoted by the hopium
Here let me help you
FNS > Hazed
Yay = Wardell
Vic > Rosa
Crashies > Levi
Marved <= Bang
gautam2909 [#139]Dude they did not need yay. He's so overrated af. Y do they need him. They should have actually drop marved instead. Just the 8 ping factor.. NV isn't getting better. But not bad from the present stage.
Bro no way u called YAY overrated....
turkey [#136]it’s a fair assumption, NV don’t have much time to integrate him and we haven’t ever seen yay on a team other than ABX
he's a transitioning duelist they'll be fine lol its not like he's a controller player
pewpew [#144]I change my whole prediction with that yay addition. Today is a bad day for TSM fans man...Riot should not allow this kind of trade close to a tourney.
Exactly like transfers should not be allowed during a closed tourney...unless its an emergency like sinatraa situation...such a bs transfer...
gautam2909 [#139]Dude they did not need yay. He's so overrated af. Y do they need him. They should have actually drop marved instead. Just the 8 ping factor.. NV isn't getting better. But not bad from the present stage.
lmao 6yr old tenz fanboy
Most accurate bracket ever, quote me on it.. #TSMWIN
https://www.vlr.gg/event/pickem/578/champions-tour-north-america-stage-3-challengers-playoffs
EL_DIABLO_OPOSTOPOS [#5]WE DONT KNOW WHO THE OPPONENT IS U DUMBASS
how is your name el diablo and you're not voting for the team with el diablo on it
ILL [#145]Exactly like transfers should not be allowed during a closed tourney...unless its an emergency like sinatraa situation...such a bs transfer...
I guess Esports doesn't have this kind of rule. But, sports prohibits this sort of trades. Imagine Lebron joining the Suns right after the Lakers losing to them. It would be pretty unfair right?
Darkslayer [#41]SENclownstar is back with his shit takes
look at their profile lmao, convinced theyre trollig
DonRobs [#61]Sentinels, NV, XSET and 100T are the only teams that have been consistently good this whole year. The clear Tier 1 teams in NA
Every other teams in NA have been too inconsistent to be considered a Tier 1 NA team
Brainless fool, NV never won against TSM
Go fuckin' cry to your mama
vollizie [#115]It's actually disgusting how hard this bracket is for TSM. They may have fucked themselves by winning that grand final against FaZe. 100T/FaZe and XSET are no joke either, but I'd rather face them than Envy and potentially Sentinels.
if they win against NV and lose against SEN they most likely play faze/lg in the lower which is a pretty favorable matchup so there’s a highlight for them
turkey [#161]if they win against NV and lose against SEN they most likely play faze/lg in the lower which is a pretty favorable matchup so there’s a highlight for them
this is the way my bracket plays out, but i have them losing to 100T in lowers and placing 5/6
teezmageez [#173]i think TSM is gonna win cuz everyone is overhyping tf outta yay rn that he is gonna end up underperforming and TSM will steal the series 2-1. MARK MY WORDS
I don't think yay is getting overhyped (I think the guy is just that good) but I still have TSM taking this one for two reasons:
1) TSM is on fire right now
2) Even though yay plays a role that should slot right in, the chemistry won't be perfect for Envy yet
DogeForPres [#134]These comparisons aren't even right
FNS < Hazed
yay = WARDELL
Vic > Subroza
crashes = Levi
Marved < bangCan't predict, so I'm gonna say TSM 2-1 so I get upvoted by the hopium
FNS<Hazed ( but FNS is goated IGL)
yay= Wardell
Vic < Subroza
Crashies > Levi
Marved <= Bang
TSM 2-1 NV.
The yay signing for NV really means this can go either way, but historically this has been a good stylisitc matchup for TSM and they are in excellent form at the moment. It's the kinda game where NV can make the right strategic plays and lose rounds anyway.
Will say I've also never been the biggest believe in this NV team, they have a high peak, but I've seen them lose too many big, winnable matches.
SerPneu [#2]TSM 2-0 Envy
That's pretty optimistic. I knew TSM had a good run so far but I think it they even get a 2-1 they are lucky. My bets are on Envy
LouBag [#200]60% NV win
40% TSMEither team can take it. Should be a banger.
if either team can take it, shiuldn't it be 50-50% ?
sKi [#202]if either team can take it, shiuldn't it be 50-50% ?
No lol. That’s not how odds work.
I think NV is favored, but not so much favored that it would be shocking for them to lose.
sidrical [#101]TSM 2-1 now with NV adding yay
this makes nv so much better. mummay was really inconsistent and yay is a BEAST (check his stats)
hilo0829 [#201]depends on how yay fit in
teams dont usually perform well right after roster change tho
gonna be good matchh
Pure duelists like yay will fit seamlessly just like TenZ did with SEN. All they have to do is listen to the IGL and frag. No play set ups like controller or support player.
hilo0829 [#201]depends on how yay fit in
teams dont usually perform well right after roster change tho
gonna be good matchh
idk i usually notice a honeymoon period, especially when its a massive upgrade and not just a change to make a change. Also, u are commenting this on a TSM match, who have gone 9-0 since they picked up leviathan
ComradeVonAustria [#218]if tsm didnt lose 3-0 5v3, they would have easily won this map, unlucky
If TSM didn't lose the rounds they lost they would have won
Gumm0o1 [#82]I dont feel they will this one i feel like they are not stabel yet
its sadge but its true unfortunately, the team isn't stable yet with the roster change
Rizvi [#223]This Haven map was literally IGL diff. FNS was way better than Hazed as a leader and as Killjoy.
We go again!
Also just a team diff, they had the exact same comp and every single agent played better on Envy LMAO (Victor was more impactful than roza for me, winning them their first round when they were down 3-0)
Rizvi [#223]This Haven map was literally IGL diff. FNS was way better than Hazed as a leader and as Killjoy.
We go again!
True, the reads on TSM was on point and TSM team coordination was kinda whacky so 13-7 deserved.
ASD [#236]nearly blew a 10-2 lead on a map nv has never won OMEGALUL
Breeze is always hard to defend. I have watched multiple EU breeze matches and its always masacre on attack side.
Flamephoenix11 [#237]credit where credits due TSM won map 2 while 4v5ing very impressive
Wdym I didnt watch map 2, can u explain?
Forsity [#243]Wdym I didnt watch map 2, can u explain?
bang 4/19
hes just making fun by saying that it was basically a 4v5 because bang was so trash
SENBobstar [#20]Who's laughing now, TSM is not that gud yet. Downvote all u want, haters gotta hate.
downvoted to hell but was right
big_chungus69 [#244]bang 4/19
hes just making fun by saying that it was basically a 4v5 because bang was so trash
Ohhh unlucky they got lowers for sure
SENBobstar [#20]Who's laughing now, TSM is not that gud yet. Downvote all u want, haters gotta hate.
-86 Frags LMFAOOOOOOOOOOO
u damn right buddy, tsm is overrated
Baller_Unchained [#153]Brainless fool, NV never won against TSM
Go fuckin' cry to your mama
LMAO CRY
MAXX013 [#255]Man!
Bang and leviathan just underperformed a lot. A lot means a lot. They were playing like that one bottom frag whom we carry at our rank games. And then he says "thanks guys, GG".
xD and its always an omen or cypher
MAXX013 [#255]Man!
Bang and leviathan just underperformed a lot. A lot means a lot. They were playing like that one bottom frag whom we carry at our rank games. And then he says "thanks guys, GG".
I think people just over rated their performance from the qualifier but its understandable after watching how successful they were but it was still to be seen how they would stack up against the best NA teams so ig we have a little sense of it now. I wanna see them go to Berlin but if they cant beat envy im not sure if they at that level yet tbh.
plas [#49]ive doubted TSM for long enough but i wont for this match, TSM 2-0 NV pls dont dissapoint :)
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pewpew [#256]TSM is gonna do well in lowers. I think Levi and Bang mental is gonna get better and TSM showed that they can beat tier 1 teams.
Sorry, but they must lose against 100T/XSET
LooseCiz [#264]If NV sticked with their old roster TSM would of won. Their past match ups had TSM winning all of them. COPIUM
If TSM sticked with their old roster they could not go to challenger playoffs lul
SENBobstar [#20]Who's laughing now, TSM is not that gud yet. Downvote all u want, haters gotta hate.
Lmao TSM fans be like that cant respect someones opinion
SENBobstar [#20]Who's laughing now, TSM is not that gud yet. Downvote all u want, haters gotta hate.
"Haters gonna hate" bro you are the hater. So i guess that statements true huh.
Zoxlr [#275]your a kru fan irrelevant team plus irrelevant region
Sorry, I only talk to people who went to Reykjavik or who are going to Berlin.
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