GC & transphobia

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RetiredRadiant

it goes without saying that most of the incells posting transphobic and misogynistic comments about Game Changers on vlr are bad at the game and have never actually talked with a woman in their lives (im not sure they had mothers, most of these guys are feral)

please, incells, reply to this post to make the lives of admins easier. you post your dumb hate, you get banned.

for the rest of us, show your support for GC

the hate from incells only further justifies the need for GC, the need for a competitive space where a minority have a chance to develop and thrive outside the dystopian hellscape of ranked and ugly men projecting their hate on strangers they'd be afraid to irl

update: didn't expect THIS many andrew tate fans to spawn into the thread. sad sight, truly. such smol breins

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ok??

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Okami_J

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Ye u right Ban me

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cry is so free but your right.

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What if instead of seperate tournament for gc there is qualifiers for gc teams , if they win or come top -(whatever) then they qualify to vct event so they get experience against top teams

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cholikarr [#5]

What if instead of seperate tournament for gc there is qualifiers for gc teams , if they win or come top -(whatever) then they qualify to vct event so they get experience against top teams

Theyd get railed

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Okami_J [#6]

Theyd get railed

I thought gc was for helping non-men improve in this , if they wont participate in vct ( open for all genders ) then what point of this
Maybe ascension slot ?

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cholikarr [#7]

I thought gc was for helping non-men improve in this , if they wont participate in vct ( open for all genders ) then what point of this
Maybe ascension slot ?

Cuz theyd get 26-0ed everytime. No disrespect to the players but they arent as good yet

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Okami_J [#9]

Cuz theyd get 26-0ed everytime. No disrespect to the players but they arent as good yet

but only way they will get good is by playing with the other teams . China couldnt get a win in champs 2022 but in champs 2023 and tokyo they came top 6.

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cholikarr [#5]

What if instead of seperate tournament for gc there is qualifiers for gc teams , if they win or come top -(whatever) then they qualify to vct event so they get experience against top teams

GC teams were able to play in NA VCL qualifiers but none of them made it through, not even V1 arguably the best gc team in the world.

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isn't this just an NA hate thing? pre sure in Asia/EMEA or maybe even brazil this ain't a thing.

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Yistyy [#12]

GC teams were able to play in NA VCL qualifiers but none of them made it through, not even V1 arguably the best gc team in the world.

its gonna stay like that if they play tournaments only amongst each other

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me me pick me

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transphobia? im not afraid of trans people

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cholikarr [#14]

its gonna stay like that if they play tournaments only amongst each other

Yeah, you're right. They have been spotted scrimming against franchised teams so that's good

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sheesherz [#16]

transphobia? im not afraid of trans people

phobia doesn't always mean fear, it can mean aversion to.

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Man the comments on this post are really rough again. So many transphobes on this site

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cholikarr [#10]

but only way they will get good is by playing with the other teams . China couldnt get a win in champs 2022 but in champs 2023 and tokyo they came top 6.

true in a way but china even in 2022 could beat most low to mid teams in franchising whereas the best gc teams can't even beat tier 3 male teams.

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Yes ur right man, but talk about this serious topics in this site is complicated, its full of incels...

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Taking incels on this site seriously is a mistake

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Cheasle2 [#18]

phobia doesn't always mean fear, it can mean aversion to.

its a joke.

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Congo1 [#19]

Man the comments on this post are really rough again. So many transphobes on this site

Wish users on this site would practice basic empathy for people who will read their comments it's literally not hard

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okay?

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cholikarr [#5]

What if instead of seperate tournament for gc there is qualifiers for gc teams , if they win or come top -(whatever) then they qualify to vct event so they get experience against top teams

bad idea. If they just let GC teams skip all the way through VCL AND VCT leagues instantly to a masters/champs tourney they would just get rolled. GC teams are so behind T2 let alone T1 teams. And its not like GC teams never play against T2 and T1 teams. They scrim them here and there. Also, GC teams had the chance to play in VCL teams but none of them qualified. CN teams for a while only had other CN teams to scrim with but look how good they did. so you cant use the excuse "the reason they are bad is because they dont play with top tier teams". Im not trying to be transphobic/sexist or anything but im just saying my take. Id love to see GC teams thrive and actually be competitive against VCL and VCT teams in an official match

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bad idea. If they just let GC teams skip all the way through VCL AND VCT leagues instantly to a masters/champs tourney they would just get rolled. GC teams are so behind T2 let alone T1 teams. And its not like GC teams never play against T2 and T1 teams. They scrim them here and there. Also, GC teams had the chance to play in VCL teams but none of them qualified. CN teams for a while only had other CN teams to scrim with but look how good they did. so you cant use the excuse "the reason they are bad is because they dont play with top tier teams". Im not trying to be transphobic/sexist or anything but im just saying my take. Id love to see GC teams thrive and actually be competitive against VCL and VCT teams in an official match

im finding reasons to support gc , if those gc players were good they anways would be in real vct , not playing in a sympathy league. but how do we improve them from t4 to t3 is the question

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I mean , people are overrating GC for no reason (they cant even beat T3 teams 💀 ) then comes the hate , idgf about the hate they get or not , but i think the best thing u can do is ignore the comments and posts , cause they like when u flame on them ( i know it does not justify)
Thats just how internet works

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NotYourAverageBrazilan [#28]

I mean , people are overrating GC for no reason (they cant even beat T3 teams 💀 ) then comes the hate , idgf about the hate they get or not , but i think the best thing u can do is ignore the comments and posts , cause they like when u flame on them ( i know it does not justify)
Thats just how internet works

I saw the other post that was insulting gc but there are users like me who actually care and analyse games for me gc teams have a lot potential for improvement in the firepover side of things there strategy is not the best but good.
It's my analysis and take

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whomp whomp whooomp

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if i speak

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tomato211222 [#29]

I saw the other post that was insulting gc but there are users like me who actually care and analyse games for me gc teams have a lot potential for improvement in the firepover side of things there strategy is not the best but good.
It's my analysis and take

The problem is , will they ever get to the same level as the main scene or are they doomed to be 4-5 steps behind ??wish them the best tho

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NotYourAverageBrazilan [#32]

The problem is , will they ever get to the same level as the main scene or are they doomed to be 4-5 steps behind ??wish them the best tho

Most of the strats I see in gc are from the top teams even in the Franchising lot of teams take other teams starts so startegy isn't the problem.
The main problem is when I watch V1or other GC teams playing in T2 events like nerdstreet or etc they usually just lose the important duels. I don't know if biology is involved or whatever it is but they just lack the firepover that those unpracticed run it down 17year old 5stacks do. They just outaim them if they can fix that then in 3-4 years easily they will catch up but even then I expect only female players playing not a full female team I think that will take atleast 6-7 years but with riot pushing forward maybe less.
But in afraid they won't be able to solve it

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KaedeTsuneta [#31]

if i speak

i am in trouble....... biiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiig trouble

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Epicgamer69

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People say these things. There is nothing you can do to stop it from existing

It is your choice to get angry or not. All they are doing is typing words on a website.
The best course of action is to ignore it and not cry and call them "incells", makes you seem insecure etc.

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I heckin looove GC!

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h786

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its not transphobia, its people trying to tell you the truth.

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So people saying that man who just decide to get a free paycheck shouldn’t be allowed to do so, are transphobic? Wow! I difn’t lnow humanity had already gone back to Homo Erectus level IQ

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Cheasle2 [#18]

phobia doesn't always mean fear, it can mean aversion to.

The term phobia literally means something you're afraid of lmao

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cholikarr [#10]

but only way they will get good is by playing with the other teams . China couldnt get a win in champs 2022 but in champs 2023 and tokyo they came top 6.

the best GC teams aren't even close to the level to compete at the T2 level. At best, teams like V1 and G2G are mid T3 or borderline T2, and would get completely destroyed by actual rostered T2 teams. V1 were getting beat by T3 F/A teams in some NSG open a couple of weeks ago. Having them play against competition that is so far above them won't really help them improve, having them play against teams at their same level or lightly above or below their level will allow for much more effective and reliable improvement from the scene

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More like "retardedradiant"

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Curxyy

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More like a mental disorder no

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These sensitive ass kids

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people like who call others incels are the real incels me thinks

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holy shit this whole thread is filled with incels, the upvotes and downvotes prove it.

i've never seen something like this

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What are the stipulations for being allowed to compete in GC?

Last thing id want to see is men not good enough to compete in mens valorant taking money and spots from people who actually deserve to be in game changers.

See the issues below.... (i know its weight lifting, but the premise is the same)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdpC4MJf-O4

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a space for minorities to compete it

actual minority (female players) being dominated by male players in that scene too

wot?

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xD

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adilKhan [#39]

The term phobia literally means something you're afraid of lmao

phobia
noun
noun: phobia; plural noun: phobias
an extreme or irrational fear of or aversion to something.

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DarkraH [#23]

its a joke.

wow great joke

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i dont think making this type of hate trigger post would work as "supporting". what are you doing rn would only bait them to do more of those

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cholikarr [#5]

What if instead of seperate tournament for gc there is qualifiers for gc teams , if they win or come top -(whatever) then they qualify to vct event so they get experience against top teams

Riot has said that they don't want game changers to be as big as a deal so that women players aspire to be on the main franchised teams as there isn't a biological difference for valorant only a player count difference. I'm soooooo hoping flourescent joins t2 and stomps on some people

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A lot of the users on this site are sad fucks unfortunately.

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They should have 4 gc teams at champs to shut people up

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Neonfreak [#24]

Wish users on this site would practice basic empathy for people who will read their comments it's literally not hard

most rational vlr users...

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Valgod [#54]

They should have 4 gc teams at champs to shut people up

the point isn't whether GC can compete with non-GC right now.. the point is that GC will help develop a minority of players who face discrimination from incels like you. they benefit from having a competitive league that helps them to develop without the harassment from smol pp monke like u

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Valgod [#54]

They should have 4 gc teams at champs to shut people up

Please take a moment to think deeply and carefully before responding, my man. Can you truly stand by your statement?

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When I was paying attention to the GC tournament about a month ago, I realized I could accurately guess what team was going to win by counting how many trans players the team had.

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RetiredRadiant [#56]

the point isn't whether GC can compete with non-GC right now.. the point is that GC will help develop a minority of players who face discrimination from incels like you. they benefit from having a competitive league that helps them to develop without the harassment from smol pp monke like u

Yes im an Incel for saying they should have gc teams at champions. HOLY FUCKING FUCK i actually want to punch you so bad

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What exactly is a sjw trying to achieve on vlr.gg?

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Yes im an Incel for saying they should have gc teams at champions. HOLY FUCKING FUCK i actually want to punch you so bad

ur saying it ironically for upvotes on a valorant website you creature

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Valgod [#60]

What exactly is a sjw trying to achieve on vlr.gg?

comments like this are why your comment about GC at Champs are actually negative

bruv, being an ally doesnt make u an sjw, it just makes you not an incel

your name is Valgod, you are peak 300rr MAX and you have liquid flair... botcas redgarted....

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ur saying it ironically for upvotes on a valorant website you creature

Trust me I don't care about upvotes. Im just tired of all these excuses. THEY CAN'T GO PRO BECAUSE RANKED PLAYERS ARE MEAN 😢.

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RetiredRadiant [#62]

comments like this are why your comment about GC at Champs are actually negative

bruv, being an ally doesnt make u an sjw, it just makes you not an incel

your name is Valgod, you are peak 300rr MAX and you have liquid flair... botcas redgarted....

This has to be satire

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Trust me I don't care about upvotes. Im just tired of all these excuses. THEY CAN'T GO PRO BECAUSE RANKED PLAYERS ARE MEAN 😢.

yh i guess, just the way u said it was a bit cringe, although not as cringe as this guy projecting saying its only ugly and insecure men who hate on trans people

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This has to be satire

on the other thread you said 'the best gc players are trans' which is just false. the only team to win GC was a full non-trans team (not that it matters) ... incel alert

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GC should be a safe space for real women to compete and gain experience.
It should be an inviting gateway for girls to get into gaming and eventually have girls compete in vct teams.

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RetiredRadiant [#66]

on the other thread you said 'the best gc players are trans' which is just false. the only team to win GC was a full non-trans team (not that it matters) ... incel alert

bros larping as an SJW 8/8 bait

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why dont they make a new league seperate for trans woman like how they seperated woman and mens league. There are so many transgenders in valorant so i dont see an issue. If there was no difference in performance with a PERSON who has XX chromosome and a PERSON who has XY chromosome then I wonder why there is GC which is specifically for woman. I am genuinely confused.

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Loud_hater_cuz_they_good [#67]

GC should be a safe space for real women to compete and gain experience.
It should be an inviting gateway for girls to get into gaming and eventually have girls compete in vct teams.

Only safe in Pacific, EMEA and South America, due to various difference of nationalities/language/culture. USA 1 country, so tolerance would be less common there.

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RetiredRadiant [#66]

on the other thread you said 'the best gc players are trans' which is just false. the only team to win GC was a full non-trans team (not that it matters) ... incel alert

Of course im an incel... I just have no choice. Every female is now yours after you made this post

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Zerphyr1 [#4]

cry is so free but your right.

Only chad

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It is not “phobic” to disagree with something.

Moral objection has nothing to do with fear.

I only fear GOD.

And god insists I uphold morality.

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Valgod [#54]

They should have 4 gc teams at champs to shut people up

Theyd go 0-2 in groups lol

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WingManPikachu [#73]

It is not “phobic” to disagree with something.

Moral objection has nothing to do with fear.

I only fear GOD.

And god insists I uphold morality.

Amen

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Epicgamer69 [#35]

People say these things. There is nothing you can do to stop it from existing

It is your choice to get angry or not. All they are doing is typing words on a website.
The best course of action is to ignore it and not cry and call them "incells", makes you seem insecure etc.

that's such an idiotic, defeatist world view.

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What are the stipulations for being allowed to compete in GC?

Last thing id want to see is men not good enough to compete in mens valorant taking money and spots from people who actually deserve to be in game changers.

See the issues below.... (i know its weight lifting, but the premise is the same)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdpC4MJf-O4

you can just say you're a transphobe without the faking like you actually care about womens sports dude.

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why dont they make a new league seperate for trans woman like how they seperated woman and mens league. There are so many transgenders in valorant so i dont see an issue. If there was no difference in performance with a PERSON who has XX chromosome and a PERSON who has XY chromosome then I wonder why there is GC which is specifically for woman. I am genuinely confused.

GC isnt specifically for women... its for people of identities who face societal pressures that push them away from gaming more so then men. This includes both cis women and trans women. GC was never just for cis women since its conception riot has been extremely consistent on that the only ppl who thought it was only for cis women are fucks like you who dont give a shit about the league.

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cholikarr [#14]

its gonna stay like that if they play tournaments only amongst each other

so what do you want? -one slot from each region +1 slot for gc that region for champs 2023?
Yeah i think those matches will be very competitive and fun to watch
Although opportunities are important i (and many others) probably do not want to give up their entertainment for an opportunity just for them to improve