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#1
kyro1

saying t1 is better than g2. thats not to take anything away from t1 they won they played better in the bo5 they deserve the win. but going forward for the rest of the year g2 will outplace t1 thats pretty obvious from their consistency and read on the meta meanwhile t1 fluctuate drastically depending on map they only have 4 good maps all of which they run double duelist on. also g2 are the biggest chokers i have seen in the game and im saying that as a g2 fan like seriously the grand final debuff for g2 is like 5x what it is for most teams. the t1 win is more of a match up diff then them just being better (g2's worst maps also happen to be t1's). the same thing happened in madrid last year the best team at the event lost and thats okay, results dont tell the whole story thats whats fun about watching esports or sports in general if the best team before the match won every time it would be boring.

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Amexdxyz
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choke2 gold2 g2-3 tr0nt

#3
kyro1
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when did heretics play at bangkok? i must have missed their games.

#10
Amexdxyz
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And? They got destroyed by TH after anyway

#12
kyro1
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lost to liquid btw

#22
Notbaka
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How many GF’s did g2 qualify to?

#24
DBStudios
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How many grand finals did TH win?

#25
Notbaka
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How many masters did edg win

#26
DBStudios
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How many grand finals did TH lose to EDG in?

#27
Notbaka
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How many times did China win fifa World Cup?

#42
Tristen11
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How many tugs did I have this year?
And how many times did my bed get sticky?
Had an Uncle who's name was Ricky
Took me in a van and he touched my dicky
And I didn't wanna tell Aunt Vicky
So I went Police Station real quickly
And how many years did he get?
Top of my head, I think about fifty

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Toph_
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Cope g2 aren’t even making it to Toronto you’re not ready for that convo tho.

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kyro1
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if g2 dont make toronto come back to this post and tell me to delete my account

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Toph_
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You will be missed

#31
Effluxi
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yes they are what? America's is easily the weakest region right now they're easily making Toronto.

T1 might not because there are 5 good Korean teams, but G2 has no home competition.

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Toph_
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Americas is currently the strongest region. G2 nearly lost to a sentinels that weren't even In form with a bad map pool WHILE having map advantage. NRG are inconsistent and struggling internally. 100T got NRG at their peak, dropping out early. Loud are still waking up, MIBR is fine. G2's play style has been exposed several times now. Guarantee you, they don't make Toronto. But youll see

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Strongest region is complete cope, holy. SEN is imploding post TL loss, and you just listed a bunch of reasons teams CAN'T keep up. The G2 loss to sentinels was down to Anti-stratting they adapted to. SEN has always liked anti-stratting, but it doesn't mean they can keep yp.

EMEA and APAC both have 5 serious contenders. America's is too busy tripping over themselvesup. I reckon G2, 100T and MIBR will make it to Toronto and then both the latter will crash out.

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SEN hadn't seen G2's split or haven, lol, and they had barely any time to prep abyss. That's cope. SEN will be more than fine. SEN doesn't require anti strating more than any other team. EMEA has 4 serious contenders, Apac 4, China 3, Americas 5 if not more. Mibr and G2 won't make it. But like I said, you'll see.

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Hyxagon
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if three americas teams are better than g2 then vct americas needs to disband

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Toph_
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Americas are going to win Toronto, so VCT might as well disband then

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babushka_boii95
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The better team is the one with a map veto disadvantage and resilient to do a comeback and come out on top hope this helps

#9
kyro1
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comeback?

#11
babushka_boii95
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Split and pearl btw they smoked edg which g2 struggled w

#46
Effluxi
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To be fair, the EDG that showed up to the T1 game was definitely not the one that'd been playing the rest of the tournament.

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cameran
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t1 choked more than g2 did,
it shouldve been a 3-1 win for t1

#35
serot
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abyss should have been a closed map in t1's favor if jawg didnt 1v4 ace

#15
Camille
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yeah blud surely in your dreams

#16
1One1
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2 maps ban and still lose, oh yeah.

#17
kyro1
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double map ban was barely a disadvantage for them they both are bad at fracture and bind. it only effected them on abyss either then that it would have been the same veto. also they did play better in the bo5 thats not what im saying at all.

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serot
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G2 were insanely close to losing abyss, t1 just sold
jawgemo ace saved them

#37
loapoarg
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You are coping T1 is good at fracture and Bind also good map for both teams
G2 felt confident on their haven

#18
borabora69
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somebody hurt this guy's feeling or what?

#33
neuroniumtwistanium
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Yes. T1 did

#19
Neonfreak
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People act like a team has to be good at all 7 maps in rotation to be "the best team" when the structure of competitive play allows map bans and weak maps. If a team is the best in the world at 4 maps and shit at 3 others, they are the best team because they will continuously win matches. Arguing that G2 is a better team currently than T1 after they lost a final with a 2 map advantage is literally insane. You could argue that they will improve and become better, or that they will have a better overall year, but they aren't the better team right now because they literally just proved it in front of our eyes

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supr
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Op is delusional and nothing you say will make any sense to him

#20
Almighty
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T1 will have a better year than G2

#21
Pookie121
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classic gold2 enjoyer take

#23
howsyfps
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if you lose to another team then you aren't the best team its quite simple

explain what was actually better about G2 even tho T1 won

#28
kyro1
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macro, consistency, micro, gameplans, meta read. i am not saying t1 is like way worse all im saying is if you played the gf 10 times t1 would win like 4/10

#29
howsyfps
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if G2 had better macro, consistency, micro, gameplans, and meta reads then how did they lose

pls explain

#32
Effluxi
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because val is an inconsistent ass game what? We've had literally one repeat back to back event winner in the game's history?

If they've got a 60% chance to win the matchup, they're better but not so much better the gap can't be closed?

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howsyfps
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nice reply

#30
Biostar
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Hearing the moans of agonized jerking off from the losers is the sweetest perk of being a winner.

#34
ARix145
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Yo t1 is living rent free in every g2 fan's head rn

#39
supr
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yeah sure g2 is the best team in the world with no international wins since the guard days kekw

#40
TheAceGamer30
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No excuse g2 choked all their advantages and lost to the better team in t1. G2 had two map veto and still yet lost to a team that you say has a “worse map pool. Just shush lad

#44
MrNonsense
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said g2 fans

#48
Ronyko23
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Discord 2 is never winning anything...

#49
Frogger0_0
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flair

#52
ggd12345
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i’m not a fan of either team, but i agree with you and am not sure why everyone is giving hate. t1 won and deserved that win, but one win doesn’t always decide who will be better next time. “but they proved it right there” didn’t g2 also prove it by not losing in the first round of playoffs? by not losing in kickoff? i think if they faced off again, there would be no clear favorite.

that being said i get it’s funny to give hate to someone who might be saying this just because he’s a g2 fan. but a 2-overtime 5-game win, even with the map advantage, doesn’t say anything about their skill difference

#54
kyro1
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thank you id be saying this even if i wasnt a g2 fan

#53
humble_y0y_10k
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Carpe>Tr0nt just have to say it

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