Dark Horses for Toronto

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NOVA - capable of qualifying and maybe pulling off an upset, GuanG can surprise a lot of people
RRQ - keeps getting better, has a solid chance at qualifying. Top-3 Pacific is a hard task but I think they can do it
KRU - should be able to make top-3 Americas imo. Very solid core
M8 - If Zyppan steps up, they can be very competitive. Minny is a crazy talented player

Thoughts?

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Seo_w

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I'd put Nongshim Redforce ngl, they have insane firepower, wonder how much mappool change would impact them

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Nongshim is a good shout as well

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Dambi Waylay will feed generations

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YOOO AGREED

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Rrq keep getting better form 5-6 in split2 to 7-8 in kickoff 🤣🤣🤣🤣

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i think talon goes as third or second seed if thyy is anything close to what he's hyped to be

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imo Talon's best shot is Champs Paris

Split 1 will be a stepping stone for them to learn and get more experience for the rookies

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fair

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Furia

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someone should teach Mwzera util usage

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!stats

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Dark Horse? my bet is TL. Come back to this when they win toronto or paris

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Liquid will play like shit in the regular season, crawl their way into playoffs. play a very close match with the bottom team, everyone preds liquid will go out, they somehow go on a run and win emea stage 1, everyone thinks they fluked against vitality, liquid win 1 match in toronto, everyone is hyped for them and then they crumble after the next match losing 13-3, 13-6. Everyone doubts them again, calling them flukes for winning emea, they pick it back up and are 3 rounds off winning the game, they suddenly start trolling and the glue gets everywhere, getting them eliminated 6-5th.

Ive seen it all before, the tokyo script is happening

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They finish third regionally. Via upper bracket

They’re not predicted to do amazing after losing to an underdog in the emea lower final, but they bounce back from that loss with a flawless run in the event

Acend 2021 script

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GuanG is the next big thing in china

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I believe in Ezeir Swerl and GuanG popping off and them taking the 3rd CN spot

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I think nova can steal a 2nd spot if TE continue forgetting how to play the game

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nova top 2 and they’re not 2nd

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actually i still don't know which team can win cn champion from EDG.

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NRG

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will require some Mada supercarrying

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s0m is there
fns will frag

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fns will frag...

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fns will...

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fns....

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KC DFM NOVA XLG 100T NS

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DFM are a bit too raw imo

Need more time

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100T rly need to step up their game for that

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they have the potential as we saw last year, Icebox and Ascent are back in the pool so Raid boss Cryo will destroy the region

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Yeah but I don't think it will work out in time. Tbh I want the old SEN vs 100T rivalry back that was peak cinema

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they're in the same group right? But unless Sen evolves quickly I'm afraid they're gonna get smoked and there won't be no rivalry at all

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2g apeks zeta darkhorse run

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why not put AG, TEC or JDG there while you are at it

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are we sure that AG isn't getting performance re-evaluated soon

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I hope so, that org is so cooked

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2glue, allglue, Just take a Dosage of Glue, eat da glue

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glue advertisements go crazy

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elmers + riot sponsership when?

AND THATS AN ELMERS WHIFF OF THE DAY

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I think Nova will pull a win or 2 this year.

I think DFM could be good in champs

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I hope DFM could do something this year

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TH

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I think TH is not an underdog team since they've been to two international finals in 2024

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ok and T1 were built to be a superteam and were one of the favourites coming into the season and got 2nd in kickoff but were still considered underdogs

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Liquid is a dark horse! :)

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you're onto something

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MIBR

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M8 On Champion Paris for the hometown hero

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W Nova

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navi

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My 4 dark horses (copium horses)
FPX - freed from their coach, Life will be back surely
KRU - they will go on a run
NS - I believe in Persia supremacy
FNC - surely they can't look this bad, this roster is good on paper and I believe in them

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LOUD instead of kru imo, they look very solid in kickoff and have many potential (as long as dgzin don't overhead)

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NOVA WIN

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KC should be here, with time they can be extremely good

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rrq is good but they never win when it matters. its just how it is.

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100 Thieves lowkey win toronto

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Thats just cope, but it would be nice to have them qualify

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GE has potential to atleast qualify ik its a little bit of cope, but they have a gud roster

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Nova GuanG is the truth on senti they could take 3 rd place or even second if TE forget how to play the game again

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GX

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i think there’s a world where either T1 or DRX fall off and NS and TLN usurp them. Overall I think this is APACs year unless G2 can win something, maybe with time Vitality as well but I doubt it their macro just isn’t there

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I think RRQ/NS have a good shot at qualifying for Toronto

For Paris Talon will be my underdog, I think Stage 1 is a learning step for them, their rookies need some burn and experience

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NOVA looks to be the next big upset machine from China, but shouts for XLG if they gel more, WOL if they get sober, and probably FPX if they decide to play the game.

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my hopes in FPX kinda diminished after BerLin benching

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This is where your hope should be through the roof though, they can finally look like a normal-er team maybe, if they get an IGL who can stop the overheating, maybe they could look decent.

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I genuinely think Toronto is a lock for G2. You don’t get that close to a trophy and not become the hungriest team in the league — especially when you’re known for being grinders.

Dark Horses would be Nongshim and Loud.

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The level of competition is very high, don't think anything is a lock in VCT at this point

G2 will be a top contender tho

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Americans saying which NA team gonna win when the OP question is who is the dark horse.
They delulu and straight up deranged

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erm

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fenis

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Johnqt :)