TOP 5 DOWNGRADES VCT 24 -> 25

#1

messithegoat

saadhak -> v1nny
Leo -> crashies
Less -> tuyz
Meteor -> Foxy9
Derke -> kaajak

#2

xineFso

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Leo to crashies is all time

#29

Yistyy

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Nah that's an upgrade

#30

ArterieX

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be ready to get analed by others

#38

welikefortniteandvalorant

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never say retarded offensive shit like this ever again

i know baiting is fun but you just crossed the line now

#3

bobwoblob

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kaajak -> flor
jawgemo -> icy

#14

SuperRoss

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Replacing kaajak with flor is insane work

#17

Tadpole3

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kaajak was already the n1 prospect.
who could they have replaced him with to not be considered "insane work"?
people who did worse than flor in trials

#19

kanyefan4238173

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I agree but there was krejzzs available

#25

number_1_wackie_fan

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w take

#40

Tsikhamani

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Jawg to icy is an upgrade, I don't know why you all sleep on him and G2.
G2 with Jawg looks great tbh, in top 3 or 4 for sure

#43

BabyWizard

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Sorry, you read it wrong

#4

SHD4

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bang and tenz

#26

Dhrom49

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fr

#5

idkmanwth

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i would not call derke-kaajak a downgrade so early, also isnt the only problem with foxy9 consistency?

#6

Ayush__

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lol derke - kajaak is a massive downgrade

#7

idkmanwth

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for now yes, lets not act like kaajak cant improve

#11

MrBlooBloom

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stop being delusional, kaajak would need years to catch up, derke is a huge loss, not only because of his fragging or opping, but because he is one of the smartest duelist ever, and an incredibly good teammate

#27

BEHEMOTH

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Kaajak can literally develop to be the next Aspas or even better, you don't believe the hype but big orgs do, he has shown crazy improvements in the past years too

#31

MrBlooBloom

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I don't doubt that (I mean yeah I kinda do but anyway), but it doesn't make it a non-downgrade

#41

Tsikhamani

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Let's just be honest they got him on base price

#42

cloudberry

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His midrounding for the team was also very very good, some of the best in EMEA if what I've heard is correct. This is one of the biggest reasons I think FNATIC opted for crashies—he's been very vocal on both OPTC and NRG, as far as I'm aware

#8

PrincePuma01

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He most certainly is a downgrade as a whole.
I'm not talking about the aim, one of the reasons Fnatic were able to make the 3-11 comeback was Derke, he's a vocal personality who has that good vibe

#13

reaper_rega08

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Alfajer and Leo were the reason why FNC did well in Lock in and Tokyo, not derke.

#22

PrincePuma01

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Again, as I mention I am not even gonna speak for the 'aim' but for the person.
Kaajak is not a very vocal personality unlike Derke who would fuel the team when they would be down.
And my point mentioned the comeback being possible due to Derke's personality (from the voice comms, Boaster had almost lost hope when Chronicle and especially Derke chimed in)
It's the persona that makes a difference.
Aim wise comparison is a whole different topic

#9

zephyrara

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foxy9s peak can be way better than meteors but his lows can be insanely low

#15

reaper_rega08

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Foxy9 ever had a peak?

#23

zephyrara

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natank, kingg, tex ever had a peak?

#24

catNmouse

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tex was great in shanghai with 1.16 KDA and 215 ACS, kingg was great in champs 22 and is a consistent performer overall. natank was very good on a bad team. so to answer your question yes

#10

delighted

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Meteor --> Foxy9 should be number 1, no amount of upcoming talent can replace Meteor

#12

merciless-pity8989-89

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i can name one but yeah i agree it should be 1st

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delighted

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No way in hell they will have the same impact as Meteor

#20

uwukitten

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bro hasn't seen the goat (verno) play

#21

merciless-pity8989-89

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nah

#34

delighted

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Meteor still shits on Verno

#32

unknown_trash

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What about flashback? He isn't better than meteor yet but if he performs in 2025 then there is an argument to be made for it.

#33

delighted

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Only time will tell, but as of now, Meteor is still levels above him

#16

Prathades

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Rossy -> mitch

#28

ArterieX

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Aspas -> Demon1

#35

H3ENnZ

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Sacy initiator --> John initiator

#36

ArterieX

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but sacy wasnt IGLing

#37

ninjaturtle

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Meteor -> Foxy9 one of the downgrades of all time but what else can you do? Gen.G could've gone for someone like Jinboong who is more familiar with the sentinel role but he was poached by DFM

#39

ZestNumber1Fan

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Bleed -> unemployment