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VCT is cooked

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#1
delighted

lmao Masters Bangkok viewership is going to be fucking terrible (excluding CN viewership)

no rivalry between the teams (no DRX vs SEN nor EDG vs TL count as "rivalries"), no "face of valorant", (no, KK doesn't count for some people since he is "still challenging for GOAT status" and bc "TenZ retired".), way too much superteams (G2, VIT, EDG), and EWC ads plastered in the live broadcasts.

Riot are bums at managing esports. Even LTA viewership is higher than VCT viewership

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trmnl
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who cares if others watch it. YOU just have to watch it and enjoy it.

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delighted
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You're right, I'm going to watch EDG vs TL (EDG has NOT won against TL ever), a boring superteam stomp a team that hired Sylvan (VIT vs T0), a hydrogen bomb vs nuclear bomb (G2 vs TE), and SEN kicking APAC's ass yet again

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ButterflyEffect23
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EDG's previous match history against TL literally does not matter since both teams went a lot of roster changes

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delighted
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"a lot"

EDG only changed their roster by only adding fucking s1mon bro. HE WAS A FUCKING DUELIST

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ButterflyEffect23
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alright now look at Liquid's roster when they last met in a VCT match

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delighted
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Jamppi fucking carried BBL in Kickoff, TL almost LOST against them

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bro respectfully stfu, your opinions are ass. S1Mon being a duelist in the past doesnt matter because he plays intiator and has some the best utility for it. EDG also made an IGL change and coach change, they play very differently from the past. ffs they won champs bro

Liquid literally have a single player, nAts, who has played EDG twice, (he wasnt even an igl back then either). keiko and pati has played them once and the rest of them have never even met EDG. what is your point?

EDG are by far the favourites to win this match, you clearly do not know ball

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SudokuDude
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EDG had someone who is now in FPX. Then they replaced Haodong in stage 2.

#11
gabeeeeee
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mr sunshine and rainbows over here

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delighted
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this is why I don't support any region, bc APAC and CN are just full of coughing babies while the Western teams are just superteam factories

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GambleNats
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who won the last two events?

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delighted
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GEN.G didn't make it bc of T1's "firepower" being better. The reason they didn't make it is bc they let go of meteor so easily. Tjis just shows that APAC team management is terrible im every aspect.

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gordonramsay
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Are u semi retarded?

#53
delighted
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no, APAC is a 1 team region.

#61
serot
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nah he's full on

#63
delighted
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retarded bc I'm just concerned regarding the growth amd development of the e-sport?

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serot
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wow way to shift the narrative. no, you are because of your shit takes on APAC and CN

#57
GambleNats
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oh no, a player wanted to leave the org and the org didnt forcibly imprison him what ever will apac do

#58
delighted
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it didn't seem like GEN.G cared about the roster. It seemed like they just focused on winning trophies since the roster was built

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GambleNats
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the roster was winning trophies... by this logic, they would do everything they can to keep the roster if they only cared about winning...

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delighted
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How come SEN beat them with such ease during Champs then? Were the trophies all a fluke then?

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Anguibok
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EDG has never won against SRG too

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delighted
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Only reason why EDG are rated highly is bc of them being Champs winners. They are not making a deep run if they lose to fucking TL

#45
Anguibok
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"Only reason why EDG are rated highly is bc of them being Champs winners."
yes and ? :chad:

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delighted
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Istg had LEV won instead of EDG they still would've had the motivation to perform better. Now they don't give a fucking shit anymore. Once they beat TL they are just going to play for momey bc CN orgs are just way too fucking rich

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H3ENnZ
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So how can riot create a new rivary out of thin air

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delighted
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that's the thing, they can't

#10
lorenzopajaroFC
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Then how exactly is their management bad?

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delighted
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they didn't do jack shit to promote the actual masters event

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lorenzopajaroFC
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You’re just saying shit

#20
delighted
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nope. only released ONE promotional video, and that's it.

#29
TMosura
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They have a lot of IRL activation activities (they transformed the nearest MRT station close to the venue), and teams were just landing and exploring. There's some amount of content on Valorant Esports TH's FB and IG.

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delighted
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so they are not doing any more promotion online?

#38
TMosura
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They literally landed a few days ago. For all we know they're doing media day during the interval; tomorrow we have the pre-event press conference.

#40
delighted
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didn't know about that, sorry

#30
H3ENnZ
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So u basically yapped a whole bunch but didnt get to the point

#5
column1
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True riot should force tenz to play in this tournament and kick out G2 and Vitality for loud and fnc so we can have the same exact narratives from 2023.

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delighted
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I'm ranting bc this time ist's not just the teams that have the least amount of viewership (AGAIN, excluding CN viewership), but with FUCKING EWC ads that are going to interrupt the broadcast every 10 seconds

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bem_te_vi
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Vitality games might get more viewership because Less is playing but that's about it I think.

#18
delighted
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Less and KangKang are only bringinf viewership, this esport is dead

#17
NotSanity
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Convinced people will genuinely complain about ANYTHING, just watch the games, or don't.

#19
delighted
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It's the fucking EWC ads that I'm most worried about.

#21
NotSanity
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Just simply... Turn the stream off while ads are playing? It's not hard, you're just making it hard and acting like there's not ways around it.

#24
delighted
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the ads will be playing WHILE the matches are being broadcasted bro

#31
jubby
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Exactly bro, like no one is forcing you to watch the games, just don't watch if you're gonna complain about the littlest things. Simple as that.

#36
delighted
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I'm only complaining about the EWC ads, just a tad bit annoyed that all of the western teams are the favorites to win Masters Bangkok

#26
Alzi
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unfortunately you dont get an opinion on this without having a country flag or team flair

#27
delighted
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done.

#28
Alzi
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slow down dropping all that bullshit 😭😂✌🏾

#37
NerfMaxima
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look bro, if you are going to bait, be funny about it. Henbaby can at least put some humor into it, all you do is be a moron for interactions

#39
delighted
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Azzelasia is worse.

#41
NerfMaxima
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he makes a bad take and dips, you make a bad take and try to defend it as if your life depended on it

#44
delighted
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I'm trying to prove a point.

#55
NerfMaxima
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it isnt very good obviously

#42
arin2016
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I was going to defend you but then you said EWC ads were one of the reason viewership will be low.

#43
delighted
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I NEVER said that. I'm just super pissed that the EWC ads are going to be promoted like those super bowl ads that play every 10 minutes. Esports is just bread and circus atp

#47
arin2016
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Where did you get the information that EWC ads will interrupt the game? That will genuinely never happen. There might be half time ads and ads when there are tech pauses/timeouts when there are no interviews to do. And honestly nobody cares about that. I immediately go on tiktok the moment I see a single desk person speak, so do all the other normal people. The ads are not gonna affect the viewership in anyway.

#56
PizzaPie
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Honestly it just sounds like he dislikes EWC with a passion which is understandable but doesn't understand on these type of broadcast they never promote these type of stuff every 10 seconds and probably is just trying to push around his narrative more than see things in how all these broadcast have dealt with sponsors and such

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arin2016
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That is just sad.

#48
V0sotros
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rivalries need to be grown organically bro, pushing bullshit rivalries down our throat makes no sense, that's not a problem of riot managing the scene bad its just how these things work. Plus most rivalries are gonna happen in domestic competition anyway, stuff like 100T vs SEN and FNC vs TL are rivalries bc of regional proximity and regional beef, what reason would an NA team have to beef with a KR team

#49
delighted
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honestly, domestic regional valorant is way better than international events bc we wouldn't get rivalries like this in any Masters or Champs event.

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V0sotros
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Masters and Champs is good as a best on best competition but if you want actual passion and rivalries to grow, we need to make the domestic leagues feel more than just qualifier events and make them mean something to the players as more than just a stepping stone to masters. I dont know how they do that, but I just think the riot has fundamentally fumbled the IL system and made it so regional play rarely feels like it matters. IDK what the solution is that wouldn't lose riot money bc my solution is to cut the number of Masters and Champions tourneys to just 2 like how League does it to make regional leagues play more and develop rivalries as there's now fewer opportunities to play in the big stage and international play feel actually special and unique and offer a chance for the different regions to actually cultivate different play styles.

#50
yukky
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Going to be watching the games, and especially going to be tuned in for the EWC ads

#52
Dan_E56
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Initial draws have weak/no story line leading upto them, I think they'll gain more popularity in the playoffs.

I don't think they need a face of valorant, we didn't have TenZ in Shanghai and aspas was out in swiss, shanghai was still going pretty good.

Why are super teams a problem? If anything it'll make for good underdog story lines if a team who aren't considered a super team finds success in the tournament.

#54
delighted
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the reason they are the underdogs is bc they have a very low chance compared to others. This year is different. G2 and VIT look way better than any other team, and these 2 teams will keep reaping the benefits and gaining more money to retain this roster until they are the only 2 organizations to stay in the Valorant professional scene.

#59
Dan_E56
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Maybe its just me being delulu but imo teams are more closely matched than what people make it out to be.

GENG were hyped going into champs and EDG won.
PRX were hyped going into Shanghai they turned out to be shit.
People thought SEN would do bad in Champs, they made it farther than G2.
Trace also surprised people in champs.

Yes these superteams will probably come out on top, but I think there is a sort of luck also involved in the knockout format so I am not that pessimistic about there being no underdog stories.

#68
KClaw
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Bro is dumb af, bangkok will get the sen fanbase ( not entirely because of time) viewership but will also have the huge french fanbase of Vitality, koreans will also watch it

#69
delighted
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Who else is watching it aside from them then?

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GambleNats
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The entirety of china, The huge liquid fanbase, the huge vitality fanbase, the huge sen fanbase, the huge T1 and DRX fanbase and literally anyone invested into vct. This tournament is gonna be fine

#70
m1ssocio
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monthly VCT IS COOKED post

we had it in tokio, madrid, shanghai, seoul

calm down buddy

#71
delighted
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This time the esport will actually start to decline in terms of viewership

#82
m1ssocio
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they said that the last 5 times, last year was peak in views

#72
kiyuri
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I mean obviously this is a budget tournament from riot... 8 teams and no hype up contents. maybe they are putting all the money for tronto

#74
tserc
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it's most likely that they are putting the money for Toronto and Champs.

#76
foythvlr
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you're underestimating eastern viewership, they are really good

Even LTA viewership is higher than VCT viewership

you're saying like league isnt the most popular esport in the world lol

and also, thats because league is huge in Brazil and much bigger than valorant. LTA north viewership sucks ass

what exactly do you want riot to do here? its the first tournament of the year

#79
Hakujitsu
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I was like you. Thinking that gonna be boring but I forgot that every teams is playing different styles absolute bangkok

#81
shermie
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You want games to actually start being rigged or what

#83
tserc
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people kept saying this since Tokyo...........

#84
justo
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they'll be fine

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