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Goodbye LEV

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#1
Hyssopus1

My nightmare has come true, they renew c0m despite Aspas wanting to play with sacy, i hope this team lose more matches than MIBR and Bleed next year.

Fer(Lev CEO) is treating Aspas like a valuable asset, he wants to keep Aspas because of the value he brings to the org but he does not see Aspas as a worthy player to build a team around him, i am hoping they lose every single match against KRU and they get called a NA team by their LATAM fans, who gonna defend you guys now?

Your 10 LATAM fans?

https://x.com/LucasBenaim/status/1834339466808307918

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chrlxz
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C0M was their best player at champs

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nutab1e
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c0m carried that baiter tbh

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cioccolat
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Pretty sure only Tex,com, mazinoo and Kingg got renewed.

Aspas seems to be leaving due to conflict with the staff and org (still salty about Nzr, angry Abt Sacy)

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kalayav_n
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aspas wanted to play with sacy? wheres source never heard of this

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dort
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sacy is dogshit
daily reminder that we're not in 2022 anymore

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Steelz
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chrlxz [#2]

C0M was their best player at champs

yes, the best player for the enemy team

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FireII
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cioccolat [#4]

Pretty sure only Tex,com, mazinoo and Kingg got renewed.

Aspas seems to be leaving due to conflict with the staff and org (still salty about Nzr, angry Abt Sacy)

think aspas contract has another year on it still?

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Mortadelo
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Your worst nightmare in the team not allowing a player to be the one who makes the team? Really?

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just_rate
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good tbh aspas is a diva imagine wanting to leave a team because they don't want to sign your friend

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catNmouse
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Mortadelo [#10]

Your worst nightmare in the team not allowing a player to be the one who makes the team? Really?

He just wants c0m gone that’s all

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Mortadelo [#10]

Your worst nightmare in the team not allowing a player to be the one who makes the team? Really?

Yes i respect kru because they respect keznit, like they kicked heat who was their second best player and i know for sure next year kru will be even better because of that change.

Now LEV keep their worst player even with their star player wanting to bring another player to the team, this shit i do not respect.

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just_rate [#11]

good tbh aspas is a diva imagine wanting to leave a team because they don't want to sign your friend

Are you stupid my guy?

You use a LEV flair and you want to see this team renew their worst player by far?

You guys really deserve to get shit on by kru fans on twitter all over again, good luck next year you guys will not win a single match get prepared to be humbled.

Also LEV was never a LATAM team even if they won a title they are more NA than LATAM.

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Hyssopus1 [#13]

Yes i respect kru because they respect keznit, like they kicked heat who was their second best player and i know for sure next year kru will be even better because of that change.

Now LEV keep their worst player even with their star player wanting to bring another player to the team, this shit i do not respect.

You do know they were the 3rd best team in the world this year right? Can you really blame them for trying to run it back?

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Mortadelo [#15]

You do know they were the 3rd best team in the world this year right? Can you really blame them for trying to run it back?

When Aspas wants to play with another player and even wants to leave the team because of that i do blame them.

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catNmouse
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Hyssopus1 [#14]

Are you stupid my guy?

You use a LEV flair and you want to see this team renew their worst player by far?

You guys really deserve to get shit on by kru fans on twitter all over again, good luck next year you guys will not win a single match get prepared to be humbled.

Also LEV was never a LATAM team even if they won a title they are more NA than LATAM.

They have 3 SA players and 2 NA players how are they more NA exactly???

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Hyssopus1
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catNmouse [#17]

They have 3 SA players and 2 NA players how are they more NA exactly???

LATAM not SA read again.

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catNmouse
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Hyssopus1 [#18]

LATAM not SA read again.

even if they won a title they are more NA than SA.

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cioccolat
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FireII [#9]

think aspas contract has another year on it still?

No his contract was only one year (very expensive)
EDIT: I have been buttfycked by cloudberry, I am distraught and suicidal

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Mortadelo
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Hyssopus1 [#16]

When Aspas wants to play with another player and even wants to leave the team because of that i do blame them.

I would blame them if they let a player do whatever tf he wanted

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catNmouse [#19]

even if they won a title they are more NA than SA.

my bad

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Mortadelo [#21]

I would blame them if they let a player do whatever tf he wanted

So blame them for what they did with NZR

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catNmouse
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Hyssopus1 [#22]

my bad

it’s fine

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Mortadelo
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Hyssopus1 [#23]

So blame them for what they did with NZR

I do, but I don't see how that's related

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chrlxz [#2]

C0M was their best player at champs

(second best player)

and only at champs

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cloudberry
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cioccolat [#20]

No his contract was only one year (very expensive)
EDIT: I have been buttfycked by cloudberry, I am distraught and suicidal

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vRmmWiBmMMD43m5VtZq54nKlmj0ZtythsA1qCpegwx-iRptx2HEsG0T3cQlG1r2AIiKxBWnaurJZQ9Q/pubhtml

The VCT Global Contract Database.

Read this before making things up and pretending to know what you're talking about.

Oh, and in case you're wondering, the contracts of all four other players end this year... that's why they're renewing and aspas isn't—he doesn't have to because his contract isn't over yet.

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just_rate
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Hyssopus1 [#14]

Are you stupid my guy?

You use a LEV flair and you want to see this team renew their worst player by far?

You guys really deserve to get shit on by kru fans on twitter all over again, good luck next year you guys will not win a single match get prepared to be humbled.

Also LEV was never a LATAM team even if they won a title they are more NA than LATAM.

I don't really care if aspas is the best player on the team he can't be the one making the decisions, that will never work.

It will be better for lev and aspas to go separate ways, he can go to apac or china to get the bag be treated like a diva and run the org & lev can make the decisions they want without a player wanting to leave because the team didn't do something he wanted.

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chrlxz [#2]

C0M was their best player at champs

if it wasn't aspas c0m wouldn't even get to champions

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Hyssopus1
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Mortadelo [#25]

I do, but I don't see how that's related

The dissatisfaction Aspas has with that org started with the NZR situation and now it only increased.

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cioccolat
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cloudberry [#27]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vRmmWiBmMMD43m5VtZq54nKlmj0ZtythsA1qCpegwx-iRptx2HEsG0T3cQlG1r2AIiKxBWnaurJZQ9Q/pubhtml

The VCT Global Contract Database.

Read this before making things up and pretending to know what you're talking about.

Oh, and in case you're wondering, the contracts of all four other players end this year... that's why they're renewing and aspas isn't—he doesn't have to because his contract isn't over yet.

Surrendering

#33
dort
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Srathens1 [#30]

Sacy will give you the exact same stats

br0nzilians are still stuck in 2022
cant blame them

#34
jasonWong
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i agree with you bro fuck the others who disagree , com needa go

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Hyssopus1 [#31]

The dissatisfaction Aspas has with that org started with the NZR situation and now it only increased.

I don't think he's in a position to complain tbh

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Srathens1 [#30]

Sacy will give you the exact same stats

The difference is that he will structure the team, he will make good calls, he will make Aspas' life easier as every good initiator does with his duelist. C0m and Aspas do not have this synergy. Everyone noticed. Aspas literally plays knowing that he can't count on C0m.

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Aspas deserves a better team , I cannot watch another year of aspas playing with kingg and c0m

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cloudberry
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cioccolat [#32]

Surrendering

...I mayyyy have been a bit too passive aggressive, mb for that

#39
kanyefan4238173
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the team is built for aspas, he doesnt have to entry because they make tex do it, what more should lev do for aspas

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catNmouse
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i think lev should just blow up the entire roster and build a team around aspas but that’s just me lol

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Hyssopus1
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just_rate [#28]

I don't really care if aspas is the best player on the team he can't be the one making the decisions, that will never work.

It will be better for lev and aspas to go separate ways, he can go to apac or china to get the bag be treated like a diva and run the org & lev can make the decisions they want without a player wanting to leave because the team didn't do something he wanted.

Do not forget my friend your region hates your team even with them winning a trophy this year, imagine if this team fails next year what they gonna say about LEV, even the majority of casters in LATAM does not like your team they cheered more the kru win against cloud9 than when LEV won Americas, good luck on twitter because there is no more BR fans your team will be irrelevant once again and will probably be hated by the 3 regions of Americas.

I am actually happy i will see Aspas farming money without wanting him to win any games, it will be a pleasure to watch LEV donwfall.

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babi
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cloudberry [#38]

...I mayyyy have been a bit too passive aggressive, mb for that

Sounds like you wanna kill that man

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Hyssopus1
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kanyefan4238173 [#39]

the team is built for aspas, he doesnt have to entry because they make tex do it, what more should lev do for aspas

Try to play a ranked without flashes in your team, try to entry.

After that you tell me the results of that game.

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babi [#43]

Sounds like you wanna kill that man

I'd be lying if I didn't say there aren't many people I want to kill, but cioccolat is definitely not one of those people

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Hyssopus1 [#44]

Try to play a ranked without flashes in your team, try to entry.

After that you tell me the results of that game.

well its not a controlled experiment because i dont have tex on sentinel to entry for me

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Hyssopus1
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catNmouse [#40]

i think lev should just blow up the entire roster and build a team around aspas but that’s just me lol

Ngl i think LEV should just let Aspas go and just take a cracked tier 2 turkish duelist, if they think they are right about c0m than let it be.

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catNmouse [#40]

i think lev should just blow up the entire roster and build a team around aspas but that’s just me lol

Kingg is too good and Tex can improve a lot yet. So these 3 has to stay. C0m and Mazino can go to other teams.
Aspas
King
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Tex
Heat
I would change they comp to 2 initiator instead two controllers.
Aspas will have a lot support this time, and even if he dies, the team still have a lot fire power.

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Hyssopus1
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kanyefan4238173 [#46]

well its not a controlled experiment because i dont have tex on sentinel to entry for me

You sentinel is forced to entry, he cannot flank because there is a guy on your team that is always flanking.

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catNmouse
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kalayav_n [#5]

aspas wanted to play with sacy? wheres source never heard of this

no source but it wouldn’t be surprising if c0m was f/a aspas would try to get sacy

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catNmouse
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ValAnalist [#48]

Kingg is too good and Tex can improve a lot yet. So these 3 has to stay. C0m and Mazino can go to other teams.
Aspas
King
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Tex
Heat
I would change they comp to 2 initiator instead two controllers.
Aspas will have a lot support this time, and even if he dies, the team still have a lot fire power.

kinggg is good but i particularly do not trust him as an IGL as much as you probably do, also i don’t know if nzr wants to play with kinggg over the internal conflict. what would heat even play?

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Hyssopus1
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chrlxz [#41]

yes bro no need for eye test or anythign lets just look at stats

When i look at a good initiator like Leo the numbers tells me who he is.

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cioccolat
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cloudberry [#45]

I'd be lying if I didn't say there aren't many people I want to kill, but cioccolat is definitely not one of those people

Thank you 🙏

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cioccolat
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cloudberry [#38]

...I mayyyy have been a bit too passive aggressive, mb for that

Dw, got a laugh from how escalated the response was

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catNmouse [#51]

kinggg is good but i particularly do not trust him as an IGL as much as you probably do, also i don’t know if nzr wants to play with kinggg over the internal conflict. what would heat even play?

yes kingg is a good controller but a bad igl

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lostsky
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catNmouse [#40]

i think lev should just blow up the entire roster and build a team around aspas but that’s just me lol

i think lev should merge with loud

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kalayav_n
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catNmouse [#50]

no source but it wouldn’t be surprising if c0m was f/a aspas would try to get sacy

so we are just speaking out of our ass

#58
Itsover
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nutab1e [#3]

c0m carried that baiter tbh

cum is the biggest baiter on the team

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cloudberry
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cioccolat [#54]

Dw, got a laugh from how escalated the response was

I'm gonna be completely honest, I had read the entire thread before I responded to you and I didn't realize you weren't Hyssopus1 until I sent the reply (all I saw was Brazil flag, 4 stars, and dark flair and assumed you were him😅)

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catNmouse [#51]

kinggg is good but i particularly do not trust him as an IGL as much as you probably do, also i don’t know if nzr wants to play with kinggg over the internal conflict. what would heat even play?

Two initiator like i said. Icebox Kayo to LEV have flash's, breach sunset, Kayo in Ascent.. the only issues i can see, is Bind. Because we need a brim (king) and a Viper. IDK if is worth play without Viper in bind.

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The c0m/sacy argument is like trying to decide the nicest guy in prison. Both players have good utility but are inconsistent fraggers. Sacy would be like a 10% improvement at best. It would be more beneficial for LEV to sign a player like heat who could actually frag out and trade his teammates.

If Aspas wants to leave that's his choice, but leaving because they won't sign his friend sounds awfully similar to the 'nepotism' that people on vlr constantly complain about.

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hellfire
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ValAnalist [#36]

The difference is that he will structure the team, he will make good calls, he will make Aspas' life easier as every good initiator does with his duelist. C0m and Aspas do not have this synergy. Everyone noticed. Aspas literally plays knowing that he can't count on C0m.

The difference is that he will structure the team, he will make good calls, he will make Aspas' life easier as every good initiator does with his duelist

didn't com do this when he came into the team, lev 2023 was a shitshow

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GoddessA
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HelVini [#37]

Aspas deserves a better team , I cannot watch another year of aspas playing with kingg and c0m

Kingg >>> everyone else on loud except my goat saadhak

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Hyssopus1
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charleser [#61]

The c0m/sacy argument is like trying to decide the nicest guy in prison. Both players have good utility but are inconsistent fraggers. Sacy would be like a 10% improvement at best. It would be more beneficial for LEV to sign a player like heat who could actually frag out and trade his teammates.

If Aspas wants to leave that's his choice, but leaving because they won't sign his friend sounds awfully similar to the 'nepotism' that people on vlr constantly complain about.

I agree, if this team was thirsty for a international trophy they would go after n4rrate/verno/heat but thats not the case.

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charleser [#61]

The c0m/sacy argument is like trying to decide the nicest guy in prison. Both players have good utility but are inconsistent fraggers. Sacy would be like a 10% improvement at best. It would be more beneficial for LEV to sign a player like heat who could actually frag out and trade his teammates.

If Aspas wants to leave that's his choice, but leaving because they won't sign his friend sounds awfully similar to the 'nepotism' that people on vlr constantly complain about.

I would like to see LEV heat but many people say that his util isn’t great

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hellfire [#62]

The difference is that he will structure the team, he will make good calls, he will make Aspas' life easier as every good initiator does with his duelist

didn't com do this when he came into the team, lev 2023 was a shitshow

Lev 2024 change 3 players of the 2023 roster lil bro. And they aren't structured at all. They literally won by individual plays not as a team. The beginning of this team as Aspas and friends months after, Aspas, King and friends.. middle of the year they start to be better as team, but they still have same problems.

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cioccolat
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cloudberry [#59]

I'm gonna be completely honest, I had read the entire thread before I responded to you and I didn't realize you weren't Hyssopus1 until I sent the reply (all I saw was Brazil flag, 4 stars, and dark flair and assumed you were him😅)

Got caught in the crossfire for a bum I don't even like 😭😭😭

(He also keeps commenting ass takes in my threads)

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i really hope that aspas leave this team and then they go 0/mibr

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cioccolat [#67]

Got caught in the crossfire for a bum I don't even like 😭😭😭

(He also keeps commenting ass takes in my threads)

Yeah I don't like him either

Sorry again btw

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Idk why we're acting as if aspas' problem with the team is C0M. It's entirely possible that his problem (if it's even real) is with something LEV aren't willing to sacrifice to keep him.

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my only wish is aspas leave this team, and they are exposed in 2025

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donkkomong
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cloudberry [#27]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vRmmWiBmMMD43m5VtZq54nKlmj0ZtythsA1qCpegwx-iRptx2HEsG0T3cQlG1r2AIiKxBWnaurJZQ9Q/pubhtml

The VCT Global Contract Database.

Read this before making things up and pretending to know what you're talking about.

Oh, and in case you're wondering, the contracts of all four other players end this year... that's why they're renewing and aspas isn't—he doesn't have to because his contract isn't over yet.

where do u even find these shit?

also im gonna guess crashies out and nrg try to pick up verno n4rrate or brawk, and they keeping demon1. what u think?

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HelVini
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charleser [#61]

The c0m/sacy argument is like trying to decide the nicest guy in prison. Both players have good utility but are inconsistent fraggers. Sacy would be like a 10% improvement at best. It would be more beneficial for LEV to sign a player like heat who could actually frag out and trade his teammates.

If Aspas wants to leave that's his choice, but leaving because they won't sign his friend sounds awfully similar to the 'nepotism' that people on vlr constantly complain about.

Sacy clears fraud c0m any day of the week

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I see that everyone is against LEV but it is clear that having several stars is a big cost of money, but let's remember that the team was 3rd in the world. So from the ceo's perspective you have to take out a former world champion (c0m), or one of your only 2 latam players (competitively speaking), or say goodbye to tex (who has improved a lot). But if the fans and the community want a reunion so badly, why is no Brazilian org willing to shell out money and rebuild the old loud core with aspas and sacy (by the way i need the source where aspas said he would leave if he wasn't with sacy).

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ianceae [#74]

I see that everyone is against LEV but it is clear that having several stars is a big cost of money, but let's remember that the team was 3rd in the world. So from the ceo's perspective you have to take out a former world champion (c0m), or one of your only 2 latam players (competitively speaking), or say goodbye to tex (who has improved a lot). But if the fans and the community want a reunion so badly, why is no Brazilian org willing to shell out money and rebuild the old loud core with aspas and sacy (by the way i need the source where aspas said he would leave if he wasn't with sacy).

LOUD doesn’t have the money to, MIBR is doing fuck all and MWZERA and Khalil got a contract extension for FURIA

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cloudberry
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donkkomong [#72]

where do u even find these shit?

also im gonna guess crashies out and nrg try to pick up verno n4rrate or brawk, and they keeping demon1. what u think?

Forgot where I got it but it's not only official but also open access so it's not like VCT is trying to hide these things and people are just digging them up somehow

Also yeah it hasn't been updated in a while, this might be discontinued or just poorly updated, not sure

#77
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GoddessA [#63]

Kingg >>> everyone else on loud except my goat saadhak

Less world champion with 16 years old?

#78
shzuo
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NADUS [#71]

my only wish is aspas leave this team, and they are exposed in 2025

I wish, Lev will se the impact of Aspas when he leaves

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ianceae [#74]

I see that everyone is against LEV but it is clear that having several stars is a big cost of money, but let's remember that the team was 3rd in the world. So from the ceo's perspective you have to take out a former world champion (c0m), or one of your only 2 latam players (competitively speaking), or say goodbye to tex (who has improved a lot). But if the fans and the community want a reunion so badly, why is no Brazilian org willing to shell out money and rebuild the old loud core with aspas and sacy (by the way i need the source where aspas said he would leave if he wasn't with sacy).

Because brazilian orgs are dumb

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cloudberry [#69]

Yeah I don't like him either

Sorry again btw

This thread is making corbin lee their public enemy number one and here you two are having a wholesome conversation 😭

#81
cloudberry
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catNmouse [#80]

This thread is making corbin lee their public enemy number one and here you two are having a wholesome conversation 😭

I'm a wholesome fellow (and so is C0M, he doesn't deserve all that slander)

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Hyssopus1
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ianceae [#74]

I see that everyone is against LEV but it is clear that having several stars is a big cost of money, but let's remember that the team was 3rd in the world. So from the ceo's perspective you have to take out a former world champion (c0m), or one of your only 2 latam players (competitively speaking), or say goodbye to tex (who has improved a lot). But if the fans and the community want a reunion so badly, why is no Brazilian org willing to shell out money and rebuild the old loud core with aspas and sacy (by the way i need the source where aspas said he would leave if he wasn't with sacy).

I don't want a reunion i think Sacy is washed but between him and c0m they are basically the same in game but if Aspas is not happy with his initiator their synergy will be shit.

If i really wanted a good initiator player i would be asking for Verno/N4rrate but that will not happen sadly.

#83
ianceae
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Hyssopus1 [#82]

I don't want a reunion i think Sacy is washed but between him and c0m they are basically the same in game but if Aspas is not happy with his initiator their synergy will be shit.

If i really wanted a good initiator player i would be asking for Verno/N4rrate but that will not happen sadly.

there are rumors associating Narrate with the rebuild of NRG.

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shzuo [#78]

I wish, Lev will se the impact of Aspas when he leaves

Who would get him though? I know teams offered to buy him but his contract expires in 2025

#85
Dmx5555
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Nzr would be so much better than sacy and C0M but Lev CEO burn all the bridges

#86
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Hyssopus1 [#18]

LATAM not SA read again.

Retard

#88
EseemedRes1180
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There are a lot of things behind the scenes that you can't see. I'm sure if they needed a change they would definitely do it.
Lev will be a strong team cause they don't need to build syngery from the ground up again.
Orgs do not work for one player just cause aspas want sacy tenz, yay doesn't mean the org has the finances sacy is a 2x winner his buyout is not peanuts some things to consider before whining on vlr

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grisx23
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Dmx5555 [#85]

Nzr would be so much better than sacy and C0M but Lev CEO burn all the bridges

People keep parroting this guy's name but I have yet to see anything remarkable thing done by him. He was in the last roster and they were as bad as fkn mibr or something. Can anyone explain why everyone is gagging on this guys balls?

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Sacy is by far the better initiator. c0m is flanking all the bloody time. At this point just play sentinel man

#91
aspassonjiezounb
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champion c0m is good as before,so just dont fk aspas in region

#92
Rey55
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Brazilians are sooooo entitled I swear. The world doesn't revolve around your boys, c0m is twice the player s0cy is.

#93
SuperRoss
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Plastic fan can't handle the cum

#94
koromast
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hellfire [#62]

The difference is that he will structure the team, he will make good calls, he will make Aspas' life easier as every good initiator does with his duelist

didn't com do this when he came into the team, lev 2023 was a shitshow

bro 2023 lev had the worst duelist of all franchising in their team (yeah its fucked up to talk about taco like that but he was underwhelming af even when the team played good)

#95
koromast
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chrlxz [#41]

yes bro no need for eye test or anythign lets just look at stats

with that logic starxo should stay on koi because of his ocasional clutches bro

#96
sn4ke_gg
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Yeah, I’m tired of seeing Aspas carrying this bum fr

#97
sn4ke_gg
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Srathens1 [#30]

Sacy will give you the exact same stats

c0m best performance was in champs and Sacy still had better stats, Sacy had better stats throughout the whole year and properly setup his duelist instead of lurking.

#98
Hyssopus1
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EseemedRes1180 [#88]

There are a lot of things behind the scenes that you can't see. I'm sure if they needed a change they would definitely do it.
Lev will be a strong team cause they don't need to build syngery from the ground up again.
Orgs do not work for one player just cause aspas want sacy tenz, yay doesn't mean the org has the finances sacy is a 2x winner his buyout is not peanuts some things to consider before whining on vlr

What buyout?

Sacy will be a free agent next year, you mfs come in a thread like this and say any shit while being clueless about the whole situation.

#99
catNmouse
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grisx23 [#89]

People keep parroting this guy's name but I have yet to see anything remarkable thing done by him. He was in the last roster and they were as bad as fkn mibr or something. Can anyone explain why everyone is gagging on this guys balls?

lev were decent, NZR was their second best player last year

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