Yuh_aye [#33]
FNC has a burnout
So much cope. We're still doing the 'burnout' routine? Why was EG not burned out and got 1st at champs? They went to those finals in tokyo too, same 1 month break, right back at it. The truth is they were the 4th best team at champs, and they ran into the 3rd best team.They were also not the best team in the world at tokyo
FNC in champs had practically everyone of their starts read and copied due to how good they were. people literally copied they're lotus
And I'm glad you bring up their lotus, its the ultimate example of their fraudulent, paper-thin 'greatness'. A perfect metaphor. Everybody thinks they were so insane and ahead of everybody else, and they bring up the Lotus comp as an example. But their understanding of Lotus was surface level, it's why they got hard exposed by LOUD on it by the time Champs came around, by punishing it's weakness's. Sliggy has a great breakdown on it that you should watch in full : https://youtu.be/HkcI0rC6dcY?si=zzgwUELbpKiQaQPK
Take note when he mentions that other teams domestically tried and failed to expose this weakness, but of course, Fnatic got away with it by just mech-checking everybody in EMEA. But when they ran into a team that could shoot back, this supposed strategic superiority dissapeared.
FNC in their prime clear EG any day
LOL. Fnatic played against a nerfed EG at tokyo (imagine losing your star player and preparing for a major tournament without him - potentially practicing different compositions, agents, synergy issues - just for him to return last minute)
The result:
Fnatic decisively better on 1 map : Lotus
EG decisively better on 1 map : Fracture
Every other map came down to 2 rounds, the closest possible margin in valorant
Upper finals came down to a smoke spam
what ur saying makes a lot of sense but the upper finals as someone above pointed out had derke(one of the most consistent duelists of his time) massively underperforming
the score in the Upper finals was
LOTUS: 13-3 in FNC's favor where everyone dragged
Fracture: 13-9 in EG's favor where derke went 13/17
Split: 13-11 in FNC's favor where derke went 11/22 and leo had to carry FNC
I think the nerfed EG claims are going a bit too far as are the FNC burnout claims(including the one I made). FNC did suffer a burnout but it shouldn't have had as much of an impact that it did. as for EG suffering a burnout they basically didn't play Lock//in where they got knocked out second round by talon. FNC did play an extra event but the burnout is an overplayed card
as for the EG nerf claim yes, they did play with a slight nerf where they would have been behind at the start of the tournament but I'm pretty sure(I could be wrong) that they played split 1 with demon1 so it couldn't have been that much of a change to go back and play with him again. by the end of the tournament I think they had gotten settled and were all able to perform at their peak.
the GF was a close affair if you look at the maps where FNC had to make a small come back from 12-9 in the end to get the 3-0 but everyone on FNC was criminally underperforming till the end where alfa and derke went ballistic on bind.
as for the lotus issue I haven't really researched on it and dotn want to so I'm gonna trust your word for it.
in the end I think they both were the top 2 teams on the scene that year and the EG>FNC or FNC>EG is just an opinion in the end.
they both probably get grouped by the current GenG, TH and SEN
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