Jieni's off games are really only on initiator, too (which S1mon rarely went positive on anyways). his neon game against DRG was literally the only stinker that you could argue mattered and that was mainly because he was getting absolutely shit on in his entries. on Lotus he looks way more comfortable due to the lack of trips and other util keeping him boxed in. their current comp theory remind me of their champs ones where their agents have little combo potential but are all solid on their own and they play off the map macro and enemy midrounding extremely well. once they get into their stride they should be coasting