FNATIC WAS NEVER GREAT

From their inception to the dawn of franchising their biggest achievement was making an 0-5 record vs Zombs look respectable. Then we get to franchising.

Supremely Overrated. Where do we even start? Lets do it in order. (tldr: mickey mouse and visa issue merchants)

Barely winning a preseason, showcase tourney with a mickey mouse format against LOUD who swapped their two best champs performers for rookies, via a historic choke.

After they won that worthless temu trophy (the kind the breaks on planes), they dominate a farmers league (name the 2nd best EMEA team of '23 and tell us what they accomplished, it's not gonna sound good) and now the hype train is outta control. "They're astralis" "Unbeatable". Liquid does beat them in the end, which is a bad look, but that was a fluke and we all know it.

After that they get to Tokyo where, unlike the book series, they encounter a series of fortunate events! Lets examine all 3 teams they beat at Tokyo

• NRG
  With an anti-prime ardiss. First map is actually dead even first half, but then FNC picks it up next half to get a solid 13-9. Fair enough, solid map. After that Keith puts up a LEGENDARY 0.21 Rating performance including plays such as walling off your own team during an site exec. For comparison, during the infamous DRX 13-1 game where Boaster had 0 kills until the final round, he had a 0.44 Rating.

• PRX
  With a PUBG Streamer taking place of the Pacific MVP because of visa issues. "Even with something, they wouldn't have beat them at tokyo anyways". Based off what? Not the evidence. The evidence strongly suggests otherwise. PRX with something outperformed Fnatic at the next 3 straight events. Next tourney they made Champs finals (probably strongest form they were ever in) beating LOUD and even EG in upper finals. At Madrid FNC were missing cuz they were worse than the teams that PRX beat. At Shanghai PRX were the favorites going into it, beat EDG and lost an extremely close series vs 100t, and FNC were winless (lost to GEN.G, who PRX beat domestically, and got EMBARRASED by fut, who PRX would beat). This means that PRX with something were better for than FNC for basically a year after they were allowed to play with him.

• EG
  Conveniently also facing visa issues! Also for their star player, the one who, upon his addition, turned around their season and would later win Champs MVP. After spending (wasting) 2 weeks of tournament prep with a sub, Demon1 returns last minute. Even with this big nerf, upper finals basically comes down to a smokes spam. Furthermore, across every map played, only 2 were decisive, Fracture for EG, and Lotus for Fnatic. Every other map comes down to two rounds, the closest possible result.

After that, we all know the story at champs, so i'm not gonna cover that, and instead deal with the two most common excuses/cope.

"Mickey Mouse? actually single elim (and no qualifier and literally pre-season) means they won the hardest tourney!"

Maybe, but, further still, a random agent select tourney would be by far the hardest event ever hosted, doesn't change that winning it would be a cosmetic achievement, worthless in comparison to events with real formats and qualifiers (ie: designed to select for the best team).

"Only lost because of Loud"

No, they lost because they were the 4th best team and they ran into the 3rd best team, who smoked them.

+1 good thesis

0/8 allat

W

Here we go with the reactionary bs

Lil bro your team is playing, focus up

Allat

lmaooo

get some help

at least FNC had a golden period and were so fucking dominant. Can anyone aside from GEN.G replicate this shit?

bro wrote a whole essay for a video game team

Now, I’ve always been a dog lover ever since I was young. I adored those animals so much that I started volunteering at the local animal shelter. Working at the shelter and helping those poor souls with nowhere to go brought me daily fulfillment and happiness. There was one group of dogs that I grew especially fond over as they were just the most majestic looking beasts ever. They used to be prized hunting hounds for some rich British family, winning a couple hunting competitions back in their prime. But, as they grew old and frail, they were abandoned by the pricks. I decided to name them Boaster, Derke, Alfa, Chronicle and Leo.

Now call me sentimental but I became really attached to these dogs, feeding them and playing with them everyday. Hence when Leo passed away due to being too sick, I cried and became depressed. I stopped eating and drank heavily, spiraling my life downwards. However, a new stray canine joined the shelter, filling the void in my broken heart, essentially saving my life. I named him “Hiro” for being a hero that led me to salvation.

One day, I came into the shelter, excited as usual to see my dear dogs. However, they were nowhere to be seen. I asked a fellow volunteer where they were. He replied “FNATIC”. With a sinking stomach, I broke down completely and fell to my knees. I knew my dogs have been put down

Summer break writing practice, respect.

Agreed

Bro had it saved on notepad for sure 😭
But yeah agree

Allat, they won 2 trophies in a row

facts but Boaster fangirls cant handle the truth, overrated IGL and shit individually, in Boaster own words they werent even that great during their best period, they were just hitting shots, not a terrible IGL and has improved throughout the years but his calling style is just not that good for international valorant, some good things but as always too gimmicky and dependent on set stuff, they lack good 4-5 man deathballs like Heretics/GenG, they arent the type of team that can change comps midtournament or make good changes after matches since they are too structured and rely too much on set stuff (although this improved recently), also dont understand things like Boaster playing omen on Lotus and they still havent changed it, give Omen to Chronicle maybe even Alfa/Hiro, ur omen in Lotus must be strong individually to have success in defence imo, Boaster is a bit of a baiter and too passive of a player, if u aint gonna kick him just make him play viper as much as possible so he isnt a liability, need to put him in the less impactful roles and more passive ones, he isnt agressive, cant make any plays and is by far the worst player in the tournament individually, the sooner Fnatic realize its time to move on the better, the excuse of him being IGL or being an impact fragger as Yinsu suggested (he isnt and that kill through smoke in last round of bind vs g2 doesnt change that) or having any sort of impact in other ways is not valid, ur igl doesnt need to kill 30 but in 2024 he must be reliable when he needs to play regardless of stats, its not like Boaster is a genius caller with insane adaptations mid match/tournament that can outsmart others, he is knowledgeable about the game even if stubborn but he isnt that great at reacting and finding solutions on the fly, he is great at preparing the team and giving a certain structure, he would be a good coach as long as he doesnt force his stubborness onto his IGL, his unwillingness to change the passive defences of Fnatic in certain maps is concerning (Bind biggest example, they have had the same problems for more than a year), his lack of agressiveness, hesitation and bad individual level reflects on the way he sees the game, he calls based on how he sees it with his individual limitations and it leads to a calling style without any balls or confidence which can end up holding those demons on his team back, should learn from certain CS igl greats who werent individually great but were used to entry fragging and had insane confidence even if the skill wasnt there

0/8 worst post ive seen half the points is just you saying nuh uh

Most decorated team in the history of VCT.
And you start talking out of your ass. That's very funny

0/8 but 2021 Gambit>2023 Fnatic I agree.

Today i learned that a team with a full roster can possibly be dealing with visa issues

i actually genuinely agree with almost everything you wrote except boiling that split game down to a smoke spam is rock smoker, fnatic were clearly running circles around eg on both halves - it was a minor miracle EG even brought it to 12-11, and i say this as a massive 2023 EG fan
also lets not pretend that LOUD's roster changes weren't lateral at worst given the meta favouring both cauan and tuyz and how unbelievably good cauanzin was/is

Bait used to be believable.

i dislike you

W take

Damn, a lot of words and they’re all facts? Props 🙏

facts
NRG with yay clears

It seems this thread has been rediscovered by Fnatic fans who have been mass downvoting.

I leave an open challenge to all such copers:

If FNC would have obviously beat PRX with Something (pacific MVP at the time) at Tokyo, explain why PRX outperformed Fnatic at the next 3 straight events upon his addition

FNC is still the greatest Valorant team ever with supreme consistency.

if you put this much effort into your actual job (if even have one in the first place) or your education, you wouldn't be in this website.

disagree but who was the sub eg were practicing with? if anyone knows

they had 5 so who was it

Its fucking sunday cant you relax

get a job

yap fest

allat

swear yall hating just to hate or hating just cuz its an EU team
this bait got a lotta ppl tho

You do realise that everything can be explained away this way right? Like SEN dominationnat the start? Oh the game was just new, strats erren't developed, Mickey Mouse. Acend got lucky with a champs run, optic won when russian players got fucked bh visas and their best player was on the most broken agent in the game, FPX shouldn't have won but PRX simply choked etc. etc.

This shit is so boring man

Q1 scopus journal post, W

to say the only team who won two continous champions has never been great as a fan of a team which has to play in the ascension is STUPID

Psychopath, not reading allat

its not that deep bro
they won 2 trophies and thats pretty much the whole story

allat+loud goat team