yinsucollins reciepts

Mods, I'm putting this thread under "Valorant" because it relates to how valorant players are treated by the audience. If you feel it should be under "Off-topic", please move it there and don't delete.

To Yinsu:

You made this tweet about people clowning on your boyfriend. I personally think that kicking someone when they're down is cringe, but you are one of the last people to preach about this.

On your own region's broadcast, there was a whole segment where Steel shit on yay, who isn't even in that region. Doing this on official broadcast absolutely feeds into the hate yay is recieving, which is 10 times worse than anything Boaster is getting, and literally drove yay out of competing this season. Where was this concern about players' mental health then?

During this tournament's swiss stage, c0m also recieved 10 times the hate Boaster is getting. Once again, where was this concern of yours when the toxicity was directed to someone other than your boyfriend?

If you want people to take you seriously, then maybe you should make a tweet apologizing for the yay segment on EMEA broadcast, and speak up for players not named Boaster as well. Also, tell your friend Kaquka that I think it's really classy of her to use Twisten's gravestone as a pedestal to hypocritically preach about mental health (the EMEA broadcast segment applies to her too.)

edit: I was hoping Yinsu would make a genuine apology acknowledging the yay segment. Instead we got a non-apology with restricted replies. The mods over on the valcomp subreddit also deleted a thread about her apology because all the comments were pointing out how the apology didn't address anything.

links with additional context: https://www.vlr.gg/356433/yinsucollins-reciepts/#235

GO OUTSIDE

holy based but this thread is getting nuked o7

bigboy [#2]

GO OUTSIDE

Brother, all of us on this site need to go outside.

Burgru [#3]

holy based but this thread is getting nuked o7

Why should it? I'm not toxic. I'm calling out hypocrisy in the valorant scene.

yea idk in every esport ppl receive hate if u r heavily underperforming. this isnt even that bad. freaking t1 in league get trucks sent in front of their building if they suck. also i dont mean to b that guy but most of the desk segments in val seem heavily scripted.

based af mods don't lock this

honestly great take. the twisten thing irked me so much tbh.

common DSGfan W
#justicefory0y

Bro chose to speak facts

moshimoshiman24 [#6]

yea idk in every esport ppl receive hate if u r heavily underperforming. this isnt even that bad. freaking t1 in league get trucks sent in front of their building if they suck. also i dont mean to b that guy but most of the desk segments in val seem heavily scripted.

I think the boaster shit talk is not ideal, but literally there's been so much worse to other players, and Yinsu is silent about that/feeds into it in the case of yay

Frost_0009 [#9]

common DSGfan W
#justicefory0y

y0y will go on 7 month training arc and come back as el diablo trust

this girl is so biased

riot should remove her from the desk, just leave her on emea

i love the emea players and coaches, but besides pansy and hypoc, i do not like the broadcasting talent they have at all. There is something about them that give off a pompous hubris, they're quite literally 'boasters', and its annoying

Aivi [#14]

i love the emea players and coaches, but besides pansy and hypoc, i do not like the broadcasting talent they have at all. There is something about them that give off a pompous hubris, they're quite literally 'boasters', and its annoying

couldn't have said it better

nah ong shes cringe af 🤣

DSGFan [#5]

Why should it? I'm not toxic. I'm calling out hypocrisy in the valorant scene.

mod are in yinsu's pocket

nobody___100 [#12]

y0y will go on 7 month training arc and come back as el diablo trust

I hope so. I like to see people prove haters wrong. While the G2 loss hurt for me as a PRX fan, I can't help but feel happy that the Ascension team is proving that T2 talent is just as good as tier 1 talent.

Aivi [#14]

i love the emea players and coaches, but besides pansy and hypoc, i do not like the broadcasting talent they have at all. There is something about them that give off a pompous hubris, they're quite literally 'boasters', and its annoying

Literally same. Like it's "yeah shit talk" until "oh no you called our Boaster a fraud. That's toxic"

DSGFan [#5]

Why should it? I'm not toxic. I'm calling out hypocrisy in the valorant scene.

Tbf it's easy to call out hypocrisy when we can basically see her 80% of the time , just gotta pick whatever action/inaction that she did.

W comment

100T clears

YvngKurry [#8]

honestly great take. the twisten thing irked me so much tbh.

It really irked me too. It's so slimy to use someone's tragic death as "a-ha gotcha" card. It's even more slimy when the person doing it is a hypocrite on the issue.

y*nsu being hypocrite as always

the time they mentioned twisten, i lost all my respect/

IonlywatchvcjXD [#20]

Tbf it's easy to call out hypocrisy when we can basically see her 80% of the time , just gotta pick whatever action/inaction that she did.

She is a public figure. If she wants to preach to the audience about something (which is what her tweet is trying to do), then she needs to be consistent about it.

DeluluGavin [#25]

the time they mentioned twisten, i lost all my respect/

For real. They don't even know the exact circumstances of Twisten's departure, so it's even more fucked up.

DSGFan [#26]

She is a public figure. If she wants to preach to the audience about something (which is what her tweet is trying to do), then she needs to be consistent about it.

I mean she's just a human at the end of the day. I'm not gonna pull some whataboutism here, but put me on cam 80% of the time and I will be exposed to the CNN for being a massive hypocrite

IonlywatchvcjXD [#28]

I mean she's just a human at the end of the day. I'm not gonna pull some whataboutism here, but put me on cam 80% of the time and I will be exposed to the CNN for being a massive hypocrite

It's different when being a public figure is your job. Surely we can agree that we can do better than being hypocrites 80% of the time?

moshimoshiman24 [#6]

yea idk in every esport ppl receive hate if u r heavily underperforming. this isnt even that bad. freaking t1 in league get trucks sent in front of their building if they suck. also i dont mean to b that guy but most of the desk segments in val seem heavily scripted.

I mean y0y was very extreme, but in this case I feel like people are shitting on boaster for his bad performance, it’s just at a global event and the sheer number of people doing it is overwhelming, the actual shit talk is normal for an underperforming player if you just look at the haters individually

DSGFan [#29]

It's different when being a public figure is your job. Surely we can agree that we can do better than being hypocrites 80% of the time?

Public figure or not she's bound to make mistakes. And I'm not saying 80% on cam = hypocrite 80% of the time , that would be impossible. I'm saying that being observed all the time you're bound to show weakness

wait what did they say about twisten?

as soon as its about b0aster everyone scrams to defend him while other players get made fun of and no one bats an eye, unlucky!

basado mi rey

Probably digging my grave here with every word I type but to be fair it's her boyfriend who's getting flamed (for justifiable reasons), so it's more to her than just "oh as public figure I should speak out against hate". I think her thought process would be more of "My SO works hard and loves the game and you guys suck for hating like this".

Yeah it's hypocritical and rather unprofessional to act this way but if c0m's dad (just an example) was in yinsu's place (desk person) and he only spoke out against c0m recieving hate to help his son wouldn't it be the same?

Despite all circumstances, I think we do have to consider the personal/emotional factors that go into these decisions.

Also there was no need to bring Twisten into any of this.

annoybrocc02 [#32]

wait what did they say about twisten?

Kaquka thought it would be 5head to connect Twisten's passing to this Boaster shebang.

leo is always tilted every replay. My british goat boaster cannot call properly because of his attitude. Leo is the problem
boaster do no wrong

only people small brain blame to boaster

DSGFan [#4]

Brother, all of us on this site need to go outside.

Insane copium, there's thousands of normal users on here. ( I swear )

TooCaution_Heartless [#37]

leo is always tilted every replay. My british goat boaster cannot call properly because of his attitude. Leo is the problem
boaster do no wrong

only people small brain blame to boaster

Nice joke bro

DSGFan [#4]

Brother, all of us on this site need to go outside.

I spent 7 hours outside today

DSGFan [#29]

It's different when being a public figure is your job. Surely we can agree that we can do better than being hypocrites 80% of the time?

Her job is a event host.

She is a hypocrite but at the end of the day, she is dating Boaster so ofc its understandable why she defends and supports him. It is hard to be consistent with your moral views when you're on air alot of the time

Honestly, it's not just her. I've seen a lot of the posts talking about mental health and hate today, I haven't seen any of them talking about it before today.

geospliced [#35]

Probably digging my grave here with every word I type but to be fair it's her boyfriend who's getting flamed (for justifiable reasons), so it's more to her than just "oh as public figure I should speak out against hate". I think her thought process would be more of "My SO works hard and loves the game and you guys suck for hating like this".

Yeah it's hypocritical and rather unprofessional to act this way but if c0m's dad (just an example) was in yinsu's place (desk person) and he only spoke out against c0m recieving hate to help his son wouldn't it be the same?

Despite all circumstances, I think we do have to consider the personal/emotional factors that go into these decisions.

Also there was no need to bring Twisten into any of this.

It's ok bro I'm kicking the bucket with you too lmao for tryna block the waves somehow 😂 . Btw why do you change your flag?

She is so cringe , like u get roasted in any competitive environment if u play bad it’s how it is for athletes , it’s how it is in other esports .. grow a pair

Never forget that most of the community like ardiis was laughing at SicK going through a rough time. No one here truly gives a shit about mental health, just virtue signaling.

La chica perdio las cejas de tanto frotarselas

????

this false equivalence is so braindead. she never said yay should be kicked, or called him a "FRAUD", and certainly not in the context of him losing a game especially not him having a full breakdown.

finally, on the COM issue, obviously she's gonna defend her boyfriend? and afaik COM hasn't been crying, tho true it has been rough for him. regardless, to make a point about one thing, you don't need to say something in every example. you're just looking for something concrete to supplement your lacklustre points.

pugz [#13]

this girl is so biased

riot should remove her from the desk, just leave her on emea

true. get someone better looking while at it.

Aivi [#14]

i love the emea players and coaches, but besides pansy and hypoc, i do not like the broadcasting talent they have at all. There is something about them that give off a pompous hubris, they're quite literally 'boasters', and its annoying

??? any example? and what about Boaster's personality is pompous LMAO

i think it's more that you don't understand the nuances of European and specifically British conversation

pugz [#13]

this girl is so biased

riot should remove her from the desk, just leave her on emea

any example or...?

DSGFan [#19]

Literally same. Like it's "yeah shit talk" until "oh no you called our Boaster a fraud. That's toxic"

what shit talk? you provided 0 timestamp, link, clip or any kind of concrete example in your post.

wiki [#49]

??? any example? and what about Boaster's personality is pompous LMAO

i think it's more that you don't understand the nuances of European and specifically British conversation

british education at its finest, when was boaster being pompous even mentioned? we were talking about the broadcasting talent here. get off your high horse and learn to read first

IonlywatchvcjXD [#43]

It's ok bro I'm kicking the bucket with you too lmao for tryna block the waves somehow 😂 . Btw why do you change your flag?

Lol. I changed my flag because the USA holds a special place in my heart and plus I have been awarded honorary american status by a certain dignified individual. I'll return to Italia quando il torneo sarà finito Italy when the tournament is over.

DSGFan [#23]

It really irked me too. It's so slimy to use someone's tragic death as "a-ha gotcha" card. It's even more slimy when the person doing it is a hypocrite on the issue.

fr I saw this too and was like wtf...
where was all this when yay was getting hate all year? I feel bad for the guy cus he seems like a very innocent guy.
I just need her to be removed from the desk at international events cus its unwatchable with her there
Like I genuinely feel hate when I see her face

wiki [#47]

????

this false equivalence is so braindead. she never said yay should be kicked, or called him a "FRAUD", and certainly not in the context of him losing a game especially not him having a full breakdown.

finally, on the COM issue, obviously she's gonna defend her boyfriend? and afaik COM hasn't been crying, tho true it has been rough for him. regardless, to make a point about one thing, you don't need to say something in every example. you're just looking for something concrete to supplement your lacklustre points.

It's truly a cruel and unforgiving industry

sad part is the whole emea broadcast team were prolly giggling when they wrote the script of the yay segment lmao

Boaster had it coming, he was trash talking master madrid tournament and teams, plus his behavior on stage with cringe dances and comments. You got man up when losing since you show those behaviors all the time.

BrotherMan [#56]

sad part is the whole emea broadcast team were prolly giggling when they wrote the script of the yay segment lmao

Cmiiw but was that how it's supposed to go? I mean the only one that's yapping is steel so others might not be involved with the script.

nobody___100 [#52]

british education at its finest, when was boaster being pompous even mentioned? we were talking about the broadcasting talent here. get off your high horse and learn to read first

sub-OP said that they had a "pompous hubris" and therefore are "literally 'boasters'". perhaps you can't follow simple syllogisms? anyway, i asked for an example and you haven't given it. i'm not on a high horse, i respect and enjoy watching American streams but can also appreciate their differences in style. rather, in being close minded to your own region, it is you who is on the high horse.

wiki [#59]

sub-OP said that they had a "pompous hubris" and therefore are "literally 'boasters'". perhaps you can't follow simple syllogisms? anyway, i asked for an example and you haven't given it. i'm not on a high horse, i respect and enjoy watching American streams but can also appreciate their differences in style. rather, in being close minded to your own region, it is you who is on the high horse.

perhaps you don't understand the definition of "boasting"?
also, you're the one on your high horse, going "you don't understand the nuances of European and specifically British conversation"
mf, nobody gives a shit what your nuances are.

wiki [#59]

sub-OP said that they had a "pompous hubris" and therefore are "literally 'boasters'". perhaps you can't follow simple syllogisms? anyway, i asked for an example and you haven't given it. i'm not on a high horse, i respect and enjoy watching American streams but can also appreciate their differences in style. rather, in being close minded to your own region, it is you who is on the high horse.

If english is your first language, thats embarrassing.
Its pretty obvious he meant “literally boasters” as in the fucking WORD BOASTER/BOASTING. I have a hard time believing you have never seen or heard the word boast(er/ing). It wasnt saying boaster, the player, was anything, it was saying “these casters are literally boasters (cocky, bragging, pompous, etc)”

nobody___100 [#60]

perhaps you don't understand the definition of "boasting"?
also, you're the one on your high horse, going "you don't understand the nuances of European and specifically British conversation"
mf, nobody gives a shit what your nuances are.

yes, just as i don't understand the nuances of American conversation, as i never will be able to unless i live there, the same for every other English speaking country lol. it's not a question of me being on a high horse, more about a lack humbleness from you.

well the word boaster was put in speech marks, so it implies that it is a proper noun, not a verbal one, aka boaster's username. in any case, i'm still waiting for your example of any of them being on their 'high horse'.

UnitedKingdom [#61]

If english is your first language, thats embarrassing.
Its pretty obvious he meant “literally boasters” as in the fucking WORD BOASTER/BOASTING. I have a hard time believing you have never seen or heard the word boast(er/ing). It wasnt saying boaster, the player, was anything, it was saying “these casters are literally boasters (cocky, bragging, pompous, etc)”

lmao read my message above; tldr: it's in speech marks, signifying a proper noun.

wiki [#63]

lmao read my message above; tldr: it's in speech marks, signifying a proper noun.

nobody gives a shit

Hala MADRID Letsgoooo Carvajal!!!!!!!!!!!!

nobody___100 [#64]

nobody gives a shit

AHAHAHA FOLD

wiki [#63]

lmao read my message above; tldr: it's in speech marks, signifying a proper noun.

those are not quotation marks “ “
that is ‘ ‘ single quotation marks
NOT used to signify a proper noun (what? where did you even learn that) but, outside of its most common use of quotation within a quotation, it is used to emphasize a word or hint to another meaning. Its literally a fucking pun dude, he is making a pun off of boasters name, and using the marks to say “ahahah see im saying they are boasters like braggers but its also his name and we are talking about him lol!” It is not that deep.

i hope yay comes back one day and crushes fnatic bro got much more hate than b0tster for a much longer time

does anyone have receipts of yinsu being cringe/weird? i feel likes she's always been like this but forgot what other stuff she did

She deleted the tweet oh hellnah bru💀💀💀 fuck this bitch for ratioing me btw

performative activism at its finest.

geospliced [#40]

I spent 7 hours outside today

And the other 21 inside

kfan4238173 [#72]

And the other 21 inside

Okay but still it's a good amount

UnitedKingdom [#67]

those are not quotation marks “ “
that is ‘ ‘ single quotation marks
NOT used to signify a proper noun (what? where did you even learn that) but, outside of its most common use of quotation within a quotation, it is used to emphasize a word or hint to another meaning. Its literally a fucking pun dude, he is making a pun off of boasters name, and using the marks to say “ahahah see im saying they are boasters like braggers but its also his name and we are talking about him lol!” It is not that deep.

single quotation marks ARE quotation marks what :sob: and they are used interchangeably. according to Gramarly, double quotation marks can be used to signify a nickname (so a proper noun), and single quotation marks apparently only have one purpose, which is to replace doubles when already quoted.

source: https://www.grammarly.com/blog/single-vs-double-quotes/ after literally one google

sounds like you're claiming random shit LMAO. why are we even arguing about this

yes used to hint to another meaning, precisely my point lmao. it's pretty inferable that that's what he was referring to.

swaggerlikejagger [#45]

Never forget that most of the community like ardiis was laughing at SicK going through a rough time. No one here truly gives a shit about mental health, just virtue signaling.

true!

wiki [#66]

AHAHAHA FOLD

go join here, we don't want you:
https://www.reddit.com/r/grammar/

nobody___100 [#76]

go join here, we don't want you:
https://www.reddit.com/r/grammar/

you decided to debate a specific point, and lost because i know more about this specific thing than u. i'm not some cringe reddit nerd, i didn't want to spend 10mins of my life arguing about fkn nouns on vlr.gg LOL

geospliced [#35]

Probably digging my grave here with every word I type but to be fair it's her boyfriend who's getting flamed (for justifiable reasons), so it's more to her than just "oh as public figure I should speak out against hate". I think her thought process would be more of "My SO works hard and loves the game and you guys suck for hating like this".

Yeah it's hypocritical and rather unprofessional to act this way but if c0m's dad (just an example) was in yinsu's place (desk person) and he only spoke out against c0m recieving hate to help his son wouldn't it be the same?

Despite all circumstances, I think we do have to consider the personal/emotional factors that go into these decisions.

Also there was no need to bring Twisten into any of this.

i understand why yinsu only talked about Boaster, he’s one of the most important people in her life

HenBabyH [#78]

i understand why yinsu only talked about Boaster, he’s one of the most important people in her life

Exactly!

wiki [#77]

you decided to debate a specific point, and lost because i know more about this specific thing than u. i'm not some cringe reddit nerd, i didn't want to spend 10mins of my life arguing about fkn nouns on vlr.gg LOL

yet that's exactly what you're doing

wiki [#74]

single quotation marks ARE quotation marks what :sob: and they are used interchangeably. according to Gramarly, double quotation marks can be used to signify a nickname (so a proper noun), and single quotation marks apparently only have one purpose, which is to replace doubles when already quoted.

source: https://www.grammarly.com/blog/single-vs-double-quotes/ after literally one google

sounds like you're claiming random shit LMAO. why are we even arguing about this

yes used to hint to another meaning, precisely my point lmao. it's pretty inferable that that's what he was referring to.

Holy British showdown

Agx192 [#81]

Holy British showdown

what brits do when they can't colonize anymore:

Dorszlol20 [#70]

She deleted the tweet oh hellnah bru💀💀💀 fuck this bitch for ratioing me btw

she turned off her replies for her tweets too..
She knows shes done for and that the community is cooking her rn XD

Dorszlol20 [#70]

She deleted the tweet oh hellnah bru💀💀💀 fuck this bitch for ratioing me btw

bruh, this might be worse than not saying anything else about it

nobody___100 [#82]

what brits do when they can't colonize anymore:

most based thing u said

why would she talk about someone she isnt closely related to?

ax0788 [#48]

true. get someone better looking while at it.

dawg

geospliced [#73]

Okay but still it's a good amount

geo USA flag?

Dorszlol20 [#70]

She deleted the tweet oh hellnah bru💀💀💀 fuck this bitch for ratioing me btw

she defo saw this thread and how ppl were blasting her 2 faced ass

Blame her for a segment Steel did, that makes sense. Also her tweet was about how the hate can have a negative affect on players mental health. She lives with Boaster of course she is going to see this first hand and make a tweet. She isn't even in the same region as com. Only sees him in person at events. barely knows him. Is she suppose to be his fucking therapist?? Lawyer? You want her to be a social justice warrior for every valorant player? trashing her for defending her partner is crazy work.

kfan4238173 [#72]

And the other 21 inside

Math is not mathing. I wish days could be 28 hours long too, but they aren't:(

espeon [#33]

as soon as its about b0aster everyone scrams to defend him while other players get made fun of and no one bats an eye, unlucky!

? there is literally a vlr account called yay defender that comments "shut the FUCK up" under anything slightly negative towards yay...

Siigma777 [#92]

? there is literally a vlr account called yay defender that comments "shut the FUCK up" under anything slightly negative towards yay...

yeah, Yay_Defender and Chunkio are big personalities and vct casters...

DSGFan [#29]

It's different when being a public figure is your job. Surely we can agree that we can do better than being hypocrites 80% of the time?

being a public figure requires perfection?

Siigma777 [#94]

being a public figure requires perfection?

being a public figure requires thinking before saying something

Siigma777 [#92]

? there is literally a vlr account called yay defender that comments "shut the FUCK up" under anything slightly negative towards yay...

ah yes because vlr forum accounts are way bigger than known casters and personalities in valorant! very smart you are!

Siigma777 [#90]

Blame her for a segment Steel did, that makes sense. Also her tweet was about how the hate can have a negative affect on players mental health. She lives with Boaster of course she is going to see this first hand and make a tweet. She isn't even in the same region as com. Only sees him in person at events. barely knows him. Is she suppose to be his fucking therapist?? Lawyer? You want her to be a social justice warrior for every valorant player? trashing her for defending her partner is crazy work.

the whole of RIOT broadcast need to change the fuck up
I remember during 2024 kickoff or something, they randomly pulled up FNS's KDA stats and you could see he was disappointed when he was watchpartying..he wasnt even joking abt it

espeon [#96]

ah yes because vlr forum accounts are way bigger than known casters and personalities in valorant! very smart you are!

"everyone". why don't you read what you write

She blocked me on twitter just because I said something similar in terms of yay and all that, so weird for that

Siigma777 [#98]

"everyone". why don't you read what you write

bro has never heard of an exaggeration or a hyperbole, jesus fuck you are stupid

espeon [#100]

bro has never heard of an exaggeration or a hyperbole, jesus fuck you are stupid

yes realize you are wrong and revert to calling me stupid. great argument there bud

BrotherMan [#97]

the whole of RIOT broadcast need to change the fuck up
I remember during 2024 kickoff or something, they randomly pulled up FNS's KDA stats and you could see he was disappointed when he was watchpartying..he wasnt even joking abt it

okay that part with FNS specifically was not that serious

Siigma777 [#101]

yes realize you are wrong and revert to calling me stupid. great argument there bud

crazy how i am not wrong and you are just plain fucking dumb, coming to me and saying "there's literally a vlr account 🤓" yeah ok buddy kkkkkkkkkkkk

Siigma777 [#90]

Blame her for a segment Steel did, that makes sense. Also her tweet was about how the hate can have a negative affect on players mental health. She lives with Boaster of course she is going to see this first hand and make a tweet. She isn't even in the same region as com. Only sees him in person at events. barely knows him. Is she suppose to be his fucking therapist?? Lawyer? You want her to be a social justice warrior for every valorant player? trashing her for defending her partner is crazy work.

She is part of the broadcast talent there. She has a voice in what they do. She doesn't need to make a tweet hypocritically preaching to everyone in order to support Boaster.

She doesn't need to be anything other than consistent.

i just wanna let you know that youre an idiot

wiki [#62]

yes, just as i don't understand the nuances of American conversation, as i never will be able to unless i live there, the same for every other English speaking country lol. it's not a question of me being on a high horse, more about a lack humbleness from you.

well the word boaster was put in speech marks, so it implies that it is a proper noun, not a verbal one, aka boaster's username. in any case, i'm still waiting for your example of any of them being on their 'high horse'.

u sound insufferable

Nachtel [#102]

okay that part with FNS specifically was not that serious

well we can draw a pretty accurate comparison here: the tweet yinsu cited literally drew on boaster's stats, just like riot production drew on fns' stats. fns wasn't mad about it, he was just annoyed that riot does shit like this and doesn't allow trash talk. yinsu however went on some mental health bullshit

Weagle [#105]

i just wanna let you know that youre an idiot

explain

I AGREE

espeon [#103]

crazy how i am not wrong and you are just plain fucking dumb, coming to me and saying "there's literally a vlr account 🤓" yeah ok buddy kkkkkkkkkkkk

things okay in your life? you seem unnaturally angry and incapable of reading.

DSGFan [#104]

She is part of the broadcast talent there. She has a voice in what they do. She doesn't need to make a tweet hypocritically preaching to everyone in order to support Boaster.

She doesn't need to be anything other than consistent.

this is just such an ignorant argument. Riot is a giant ass company putting on a giant ass show. they have an entire production team behind the screens. shit was probably planned out before she even heard about it. makes no sense why Yinsu specifically should be the representative of the EMEA VCT League.

DSGFan [#104]

She is part of the broadcast talent there. She has a voice in what they do. She doesn't need to make a tweet hypocritically preaching to everyone in order to support Boaster.

She doesn't need to be anything other than consistent.

Also you completely skip over everything else I wrote? Again how is Yinsu suppose to know anything about c0m's mental health? She quite literally lives with Boaster of course she is going to be able to know how he is feeling and want to look out for him. Crazy we live in a world where you get called out for defending people you care about...

Siigma777 [#110]

things okay in your life? you seem unnaturally angry and incapable of reading.

i am completely fine actually, maybe you should reevaluate your sentences and make them sound not so stupid! coming back to your original statement, you are taking the words of a forum user more heavily compared to a vct broadcaster. a little odd, dont you think? please take the time and come back to me with a better argument before you speak to me, thank you!

Siigma777 [#90]

Blame her for a segment Steel did, that makes sense. Also her tweet was about how the hate can have a negative affect on players mental health. She lives with Boaster of course she is going to see this first hand and make a tweet. She isn't even in the same region as com. Only sees him in person at events. barely knows him. Is she suppose to be his fucking therapist?? Lawyer? You want her to be a social justice warrior for every valorant player? trashing her for defending her partner is crazy work.

Let me break down everything you said and counter you:

"Blaming her for a segment Steel did" - Steel is her coworker and she was on the broadcast when Steel was roasting the fuck out yay. So this is not something that she is not completely involved in? She could've said something then, but no as long as its not boaster its ok right?

"Also her tweet was about how the hate can have a negative affect on players mental health. She lives with Boaster of course she is going to see this first hand and make a tweet" - I don't mind her defending her boyfriend infact it would be weird if she didn't but that is coming from a standpoint when we see her as boaster's gf. Me personally when yinsu is on the broadcast i see her as a talent, infact i didn't even know they were dating until recently. I think when you make such points about mental health of player, people are going to see it from the stand point of her being a talent on the broadcast. For example: Coms dad always defends him if com has a bad performance, do you see anyone shitting on com's dad? no because he never shits on other players, he always stands up for his son. We only know him as coms dad, he is not out there on the broadcast making fun of other players bad performances and downfalls. But she was actively involved with people who were making fun of other players performance, she didn't have any problem laughing it off then?

"She isn't even in the same region as com. Only sees him in person at events. barely knows him. Is she suppose to be his fucking therapist?? Lawyer? You want her to be a social justice warrior for every valorant player? trashing her for defending her partner is crazy work." - Com attended masters shanghai fyi, you can see many threads about his performance, no one had a word to say about that, the only person who said anything was coms dad. "Only sees him at in person event and barely knows him" - So if someone she doesn't know gets hate that's fine? Not saying she has to go type out replies to all the keyboard warriors over here but you are only seeing her as boasters gf, she is a person who has a large influence over the community, she should stand up or at least tell people to stop shitting on players when they have bad performances. Nobody asked her to be a therapist or lawyer, just be equal to all. Not mixing up work and relationships is a very simple task, so when you enforce such tweets, please see that the general public will see it from the stand point of her being a talent on the broadcast and not boasters gf.

Lastly, i wanna see the hate against all players is a part of esports. Not saying its ok but as long as there is esports there is always gonna be threads like this.

Siigma777 [#112]

Also you completely skip over everything else I wrote? Again how is Yinsu suppose to know anything about c0m's mental health? She quite literally lives with Boaster of course she is going to be able to know how he is feeling and want to look out for him. Crazy we live in a world where you get called out for defending people you care about...

see #114

Hunter09 [#114]

Let me break down everything you said and counter you:

"Blaming her for a segment Steel did" - Steel is her coworker and she was on the broadcast when Steel was roasting the fuck out yay. So this is not something that she is not completely involved in? She could've said something then, but no as long as its not boaster its ok right?

"Also her tweet was about how the hate can have a negative affect on players mental health. She lives with Boaster of course she is going to see this first hand and make a tweet" - I don't mind her defending her boyfriend infact it would be weird if she didn't but that is coming from a standpoint when we see her as boaster's gf. Me personally when yinsu is on the broadcast i see her as a talent, infact i didn't even know they were dating until recently. I think when you make such points about mental health of player, people are going to see it from the stand point of her being a talent on the broadcast. For example: Coms dad always defends him if com has a bad performance, do you see anyone shitting on com's dad? no because he never shits on other players, he always stands up for his son. We only know him as coms dad, he is not out there on the broadcast making fun of other players bad performances and downfalls. But she was actively involved with people who were making fun of other players performance, she didn't have any problem laughing it off then?

"She isn't even in the same region as com. Only sees him in person at events. barely knows him. Is she suppose to be his fucking therapist?? Lawyer? You want her to be a social justice warrior for every valorant player? trashing her for defending her partner is crazy work." - Com attended masters shanghai fyi, you can see many threads about his performance, no one had a word to say about that, the only person who said anything was coms dad. "Only sees him at in person event and barely knows him" - So if someone she doesn't know gets hate that's fine? Not saying she has to go type out replies to all the keyboard warriors over here but you are only seeing her as boasters gf, she is a person who has a large influence over the community, she should stand up or at least tell people to stop shitting on players when they have bad performances. Nobody asked her to be a therapist or lawyer, just be equal to all. Not mixing up work and relationships is a very simple task, so when you enforce such tweets, please see that the general public will see it from the stand point of her being a talent on the broadcast and not boasters gf.

Lastly, i wanna see the hate against all players is a part of esports. Not saying its ok but as long as there is esports there is always gonna be threads like this.

Extremely well said

I was thinking about this too. I think people should just be normal humans and normalize being kind to others. Trash talking your opponents is one thing but I think the hatred some pros get is so extreme. Some people just get so angry for no reason online.

kfan4238173 [#72]

And the other 21 inside

eu math

PRXRoach [#118]

eu math

math was created in emea by my arab brothers ❤️

kfan4238173 [#72]

And the other 21 inside

wait, brother, 21+7 doesn't equal 24...

He’s right you know

so EMEA production is the worst production of all?

Hunter09 [#114]

Let me break down everything you said and counter you:

"Blaming her for a segment Steel did" - Steel is her coworker and she was on the broadcast when Steel was roasting the fuck out yay. So this is not something that she is not completely involved in? She could've said something then, but no as long as its not boaster its ok right?

"Also her tweet was about how the hate can have a negative affect on players mental health. She lives with Boaster of course she is going to see this first hand and make a tweet" - I don't mind her defending her boyfriend infact it would be weird if she didn't but that is coming from a standpoint when we see her as boaster's gf. Me personally when yinsu is on the broadcast i see her as a talent, infact i didn't even know they were dating until recently. I think when you make such points about mental health of player, people are going to see it from the stand point of her being a talent on the broadcast. For example: Coms dad always defends him if com has a bad performance, do you see anyone shitting on com's dad? no because he never shits on other players, he always stands up for his son. We only know him as coms dad, he is not out there on the broadcast making fun of other players bad performances and downfalls. But she was actively involved with people who were making fun of other players performance, she didn't have any problem laughing it off then?

"She isn't even in the same region as com. Only sees him in person at events. barely knows him. Is she suppose to be his fucking therapist?? Lawyer? You want her to be a social justice warrior for every valorant player? trashing her for defending her partner is crazy work." - Com attended masters shanghai fyi, you can see many threads about his performance, no one had a word to say about that, the only person who said anything was coms dad. "Only sees him at in person event and barely knows him" - So if someone she doesn't know gets hate that's fine? Not saying she has to go type out replies to all the keyboard warriors over here but you are only seeing her as boasters gf, she is a person who has a large influence over the community, she should stand up or at least tell people to stop shitting on players when they have bad performances. Nobody asked her to be a therapist or lawyer, just be equal to all. Not mixing up work and relationships is a very simple task, so when you enforce such tweets, please see that the general public will see it from the stand point of her being a talent on the broadcast and not boasters gf.

Lastly, i wanna see the hate against all players is a part of esports. Not saying its ok but as long as there is esports there is always gonna be threads like this.

Let me break down everything you said and counter you:

"Steel is her coworker and she was on the broadcast when Steel was roasting the fuck out yay. So this is not something that she is not completely involved in?". You skipped over #111 because it invalidates these claims. VCT is run by a production company. it isn't plat chat. it's not 5 friends on a couch putting on a little show. this is a multi-billon dollar company putting on this stream. as I said, since yinsu was never a part of the segment, it is extremely likely she didn't even know about it until close to broadcast as there would be no reason for her to. even if she did, why would saying something stop them from doing it? Steel wanted to do the segment, developed it, yet cause Yinsu says, "maybe we shouldn't" they're gonna cancel the whole thing??

" Coms dad always defends him if com has a bad performance, do you see anyone shitting on com's dad? no because he never shits on other players, he always stands up for his son. We only know him as coms dad, he is not out there on the broadcast making fun of other players bad performances and downfalls". Again refer to #111 or what I wrote before. Attacking Yinsu as if she is the face of VCT EMEA is crazy.

"So if someone she doesn't know gets hate that's fine?" Trying to put words in my mouth is crazy. As you know, I was saying she doesn't know com personally, so she doesn't see any tolls that the hate might take on his mental health, as she does with Boaster.

"Not mixing up work and relationships is a very simple task, so when you enforce such tweets, please see that the general public will see it from the stand point of her being a talent on the broadcast and not boasters gf" Except that she literally didn't! She made the tweet on HER YinsuCollins Twitter account! Her PERSONAL account! Not from the VCT EMEA account. Again a personal account! She is being attacked for giving her opinions on her own account!

DSGFan [#116]

Extremely well said

@DSGFan, making a thread like this trying to expose someone, just to ignore my reply and have someone else rebuttle is wild. Proving you're only doing it for the temporary satisfaction of upvotes.

based king

Preach man

Yinsu should be removed from broadcast if she can't keep her biases in check

She also sucks in general, and her boyfriend is actually the biggest fraud at this event. GG shitters, cry privately

wiki [#51]

what shit talk? you provided 0 timestamp, link, clip or any kind of concrete example in your post.

??? Read

Siigma777 [#123]

Let me break down everything you said and counter you:

"Steel is her coworker and she was on the broadcast when Steel was roasting the fuck out yay. So this is not something that she is not completely involved in?". You skipped over #111 because it invalidates these claims. VCT is run by a production company. it isn't plat chat. it's not 5 friends on a couch putting on a little show. this is a multi-billon dollar company putting on this stream. as I said, since yinsu was never a part of the segment, it is extremely likely she didn't even know about it until close to broadcast as there would be no reason for her to. even if she did, why would saying something stop them from doing it? Steel wanted to do the segment, developed it, yet cause Yinsu says, "maybe we shouldn't" they're gonna cancel the whole thing??

" Coms dad always defends him if com has a bad performance, do you see anyone shitting on com's dad? no because he never shits on other players, he always stands up for his son. We only know him as coms dad, he is not out there on the broadcast making fun of other players bad performances and downfalls". Again refer to #111 or what I wrote before. Attacking Yinsu as if she is the face of VCT EMEA is crazy.

"So if someone she doesn't know gets hate that's fine?" Trying to put words in my mouth is crazy. As you know, I was saying she doesn't know com personally, so she doesn't see any tolls that the hate might take on his mental health, as she does with Boaster.

"Not mixing up work and relationships is a very simple task, so when you enforce such tweets, please see that the general public will see it from the stand point of her being a talent on the broadcast and not boasters gf" Except that she literally didn't! She made the tweet on HER YinsuCollins Twitter account! Her PERSONAL account! Not from the VCT EMEA account. Again a personal account! She is being attacked for giving her opinions on her own account!

Waiting for OPs reply to this

This is fuxking dumb and I love vlr users preaching this. Amazing sight

Siigma777 [#123]

Let me break down everything you said and counter you:

"Steel is her coworker and she was on the broadcast when Steel was roasting the fuck out yay. So this is not something that she is not completely involved in?". You skipped over #111 because it invalidates these claims. VCT is run by a production company. it isn't plat chat. it's not 5 friends on a couch putting on a little show. this is a multi-billon dollar company putting on this stream. as I said, since yinsu was never a part of the segment, it is extremely likely she didn't even know about it until close to broadcast as there would be no reason for her to. even if she did, why would saying something stop them from doing it? Steel wanted to do the segment, developed it, yet cause Yinsu says, "maybe we shouldn't" they're gonna cancel the whole thing??

" Coms dad always defends him if com has a bad performance, do you see anyone shitting on com's dad? no because he never shits on other players, he always stands up for his son. We only know him as coms dad, he is not out there on the broadcast making fun of other players bad performances and downfalls". Again refer to #111 or what I wrote before. Attacking Yinsu as if she is the face of VCT EMEA is crazy.

"So if someone she doesn't know gets hate that's fine?" Trying to put words in my mouth is crazy. As you know, I was saying she doesn't know com personally, so she doesn't see any tolls that the hate might take on his mental health, as she does with Boaster.

"Not mixing up work and relationships is a very simple task, so when you enforce such tweets, please see that the general public will see it from the stand point of her being a talent on the broadcast and not boasters gf" Except that she literally didn't! She made the tweet on HER YinsuCollins Twitter account! Her PERSONAL account! Not from the VCT EMEA account. Again a personal account! She is being attacked for giving her opinions on her own account!

there is a clear bias towards boaster and see her statement on soulcas she is hypocrite through and through and there is no changing that
https://x.com/omenowo42/status/1797005756014694412?t=4aSSDskLlTv9vA7llRP62A&s=08

bearmans [#122]

so EMEA production is the worst production of all?

nah
EMEA production is very good.

just the talent is a bit too biased and hypocritical

babysasuke [#126]

Preach man

Yinsu should be removed from broadcast if she can't keep her biases in check

She also sucks in general, and her boyfriend is actually the biggest fraud at this event. GG shitters, cry privately

wait if he's a fraud when he is playing bad, then does that mean he is good? cuz fraud means "a person intended to deceive others"
if him playing bad is intended to deceive us, that means boaster is good and since you called him biggest fraud at the event, you are saying that boaster is good. babysasuke is the biggest boaster fan.

Siigma777 [#124]

@DSGFan, making a thread like this trying to expose someone, just to ignore my reply and have someone else rebuttle is wild. Proving you're only doing it for the temporary satisfaction of upvotes.

What are you yapping about? I was going to respond to you, but someone else already wrote what I was going to say. So I directed you to something someone else already said that I felt was relevant. No point in typing out something twice.

loapoarg [#130]

there is a clear bias towards boaster and see her statement on soulcas she is hypocrite through and through and there is no changing that
https://x.com/omenowo42/status/1797005756014694412?t=4aSSDskLlTv9vA7llRP62A&s=08

God forbids yinsu from defending her bf

sentinelmain377 [#132]

wait if he's a fraud when he is playing bad, then does that mean he is good? cuz fraud means "a person intended to deceive others"
if him playing bad is intended to deceive us, that means boaster is good and since you called him biggest fraud at the event, you are saying that boaster is good. babysasuke is the biggest boaster fan.

btw im not supporting yinsu and this is not related to the yinsu kaquka hypocrit drama.

not necessarily fraud could just mean paycheck stealer

im not calling boaster one i dont agree with it, its just how some igls perform lol look at hooxi in cs

sheriffykw [#135]

not necessarily fraud could just mean paycheck stealer

im not calling boaster one i dont agree with it, its just how some igls perform lol look at hooxi in cs

true ig
also hooxi in cs rofl

facts, just straight facts

sentinelmain377 [#136]

true ig
also hooxi in cs rofl

i mean yea the stats are bad for hooxi but hey the won tournaments so i cant really say anything

idk personally i never really judge igls by their stats moreso i look at how the matches are played out and if they got outcalled

I'm starting to think that this thread is actually quite stupid. You're just trying to defend/support yay and other pros by putting boaster/yinsu down. Just because yinsu didn't defend yay or demon1 doesn't necessarily she's out there shitting on him.

The expectation you put on public figure is way up there to the point that in your eyes she's an object. Yinsu can't do everything you know.

Was she a hypocrite, probably yes. But if we follow your logic, for yinsu to defend boaster, she has to defend yay, and then yinsu should defend t2 pros, and then t3s, and then all the way to average ranked players , you do realize this is just impossible right?

I'm digging my grave even deeper at this point

Siigma777 [#123]

Let me break down everything you said and counter you:

"Steel is her coworker and she was on the broadcast when Steel was roasting the fuck out yay. So this is not something that she is not completely involved in?". You skipped over #111 because it invalidates these claims. VCT is run by a production company. it isn't plat chat. it's not 5 friends on a couch putting on a little show. this is a multi-billon dollar company putting on this stream. as I said, since yinsu was never a part of the segment, it is extremely likely she didn't even know about it until close to broadcast as there would be no reason for her to. even if she did, why would saying something stop them from doing it? Steel wanted to do the segment, developed it, yet cause Yinsu says, "maybe we shouldn't" they're gonna cancel the whole thing??

" Coms dad always defends him if com has a bad performance, do you see anyone shitting on com's dad? no because he never shits on other players, he always stands up for his son. We only know him as coms dad, he is not out there on the broadcast making fun of other players bad performances and downfalls". Again refer to #111 or what I wrote before. Attacking Yinsu as if she is the face of VCT EMEA is crazy.

"So if someone she doesn't know gets hate that's fine?" Trying to put words in my mouth is crazy. As you know, I was saying she doesn't know com personally, so she doesn't see any tolls that the hate might take on his mental health, as she does with Boaster.

"Not mixing up work and relationships is a very simple task, so when you enforce such tweets, please see that the general public will see it from the stand point of her being a talent on the broadcast and not boasters gf" Except that she literally didn't! She made the tweet on HER YinsuCollins Twitter account! Her PERSONAL account! Not from the VCT EMEA account. Again a personal account! She is being attacked for giving her opinions on her own account!

As an employee, you always have the option to say "I'm not comfortable doing this" or "I think doing this thing is wrong". So even if it was pushed by Riot Production overlords, you have the choice to voice opposition. Or if she didn't know and it just happened while she was on the desk, she has the chance afterwards to say "Hey, I thought this segment was too much." But she didn't. If anything, in her interactions with Steel across various casts, she seems to goad on his hating. And before you try to say "she has to worry about job security", the entirety of plat chat is boycotting casting in Shanghai because of their disagreements with practices of the Chinese government. Making a tweet after the broadcast saying "Hey, i think this segment was harsh and unnecessary. I don't think we should encourage hate on the broadcast." would be appropriate if you truly care about the mental health of players in the scene. The problem I have with her isn't the fact of her defending her boyfriend; that's fine. The problem is that she is admonishing the audience for something she helped encourage towards others.

Now, coming onto what you said in #111. First of all, you are pushing an assumption about production control as fact. And as I said above, you still have the choice as an employee to voice disapproval. Secondly, there is evidence to suggest that the whole segment was planned by the broadcast talent/with broadcast talent approval. If you watch all the discussion that occurred around the time when Americas production showed FNS' stats from the MiBR game in 2023, the conclusions from that were that local production and desk analysts have a lot of control over the show, and if things were left entirely to them, they wouldn't fine anyone for shooting bodies. So if we're going to make assumptions based on data, it is more likely that Yinsu was at the very least passively involved in the creation of the segment.

Lastly, "she doesn't see the effect/toll of other players receiving hate" is such an infuriating and hair-splitting bullshit argument. As a human being capable of fucking logical reasoning, if you/a loved receiving hate negatively affects you, it is fucking OBVIOUS that someone receiving even more intense hate will be affected. In the case of yay, she even DID SEE how it was affecting him because of yay's depressed tweets. So it would be good of her to CONSISTENTLY discourage hate in the community, not only when it comes around to someone she cares about.

To wrap it up, no one is saying defending your loved ones is a bad thing. That is a mischaracterization of this thread. This thread is highlighting her hypocritical act, and the goal of it is to get her to start discouraging excessive hate whenever it happens, which she is in a position to do as a leading broadcast talent.

bloodysky [#128]

Waiting for OPs reply to this

#140

IonlywatchvcjXD [#139]

I'm starting to think that this thread is actually quite stupid. You're just trying to defend/support yay and other pros by putting boaster/yinsu down. Just because yinsu didn't defend yay or demon1 doesn't necessarily she's out there shitting on him.

The expectation you put on public figure is way up there to the point that in your eyes she's an object. Yinsu can't do everything you know.

Was she a hypocrite, probably yes. But if we follow your logic, for yinsu to defend boaster, she has to defend yay, and then yinsu should defend t2 pros, and then t3s, and then all the way to average ranked players , you do realize this is just impossible right?

I'm digging my grave even deeper at this point

No, she only has to discourage hate when she sees it, and definitely not encourage it, which is what that EMEA segment did.

DSGFan [#142]

No, she only has to discourage hate when she sees it, and definitely not encourage it, which is what that EMEA segment did.

And by that she has to face the internet and expose herself to more hate? Talk is cheap bro...

And btw that's literally impossible that would mean she has to be on Twitter or vlr 80% of the time and frankly it's just tiring and would put you down.

IonlywatchvcjXD [#139]

I'm starting to think that this thread is actually quite stupid. You're just trying to defend/support yay and other pros by putting boaster/yinsu down. Just because yinsu didn't defend yay or demon1 doesn't necessarily she's out there shitting on him.

The expectation you put on public figure is way up there to the point that in your eyes she's an object. Yinsu can't do everything you know.

Was she a hypocrite, probably yes. But if we follow your logic, for yinsu to defend boaster, she has to defend yay, and then yinsu should defend t2 pros, and then t3s, and then all the way to average ranked players , you do realize this is just impossible right?

I'm digging my grave even deeper at this point

You are wrong

bloodysky [#129]

This is fuxking dumb and I love vlr users preaching this. Amazing sight

What is dumb about it? Yes, there are toxic users here, and I discourage that too. How is that relevant to this?

IonlywatchvcjXD [#143]

And by that she has to face the internet and expose herself to more hate? Talk is cheap bro...

And btw that's literally impossible that would mean she has to be on Twitter or vlr 80% of the time and frankly it's just tiring and would put you down.

Talk is indeed cheap. Sideshow and the rest of platchat got quite a bit of backlash for boycotting casting in Shanghai, but they did it anyway.

babysasuke [#126]

Preach man

Yinsu should be removed from broadcast if she can't keep her biases in check

She also sucks in general, and her boyfriend is actually the biggest fraud at this event. GG shitters, cry privately

You jumping in on this doesn't change the fact that Chronicle owned you.

DSGFan [#146]

Talk is indeed cheap. Sideshow and the rest of platchat got quite a bit of backlash for boycotting casting in Shanghai, but they did it anyway.

Explain to me how do you equate sideshow's situation to yinsu's

IonlywatchvcjXD [#148]

Explain to me how do you equate sideshow's situation to yinsu's

I'm saying that if Sideshow can literally boycott a masters event, making a tweet saying "I think the yay bashing segment on broadcast today was wrong. Let's not spread hate." is not too much to expect from Yinsu if she supposedly cares so much about player's mental health.

IonlywatchvcjXD [#139]

I'm starting to think that this thread is actually quite stupid. You're just trying to defend/support yay and other pros by putting boaster/yinsu down. Just because yinsu didn't defend yay or demon1 doesn't necessarily she's out there shitting on him.

The expectation you put on public figure is way up there to the point that in your eyes she's an object. Yinsu can't do everything you know.

Was she a hypocrite, probably yes. But if we follow your logic, for yinsu to defend boaster, she has to defend yay, and then yinsu should defend t2 pros, and then t3s, and then all the way to average ranked players , you do realize this is just impossible right?

I'm digging my grave even deeper at this point

reply fail oops

DSGFan [#149]

I'm saying that if Sideshow can literally boycott a masters event, making a tweet saying "I think the yay bashing segment on broadcast today was wrong. Let's not spread hate." is not too much to expect from Yinsu if she supposedly cares so much about player's mental health.

That's because he has to look at the comments live bro. You wouldn't want to see 1/3 of the chats are just retards spamming y0y do you?

Is not saying "let's not spread hate" is equal to not caring abt mental health at all?

Siigma777 [#123]

Let me break down everything you said and counter you:

"Steel is her coworker and she was on the broadcast when Steel was roasting the fuck out yay. So this is not something that she is not completely involved in?". You skipped over #111 because it invalidates these claims. VCT is run by a production company. it isn't plat chat. it's not 5 friends on a couch putting on a little show. this is a multi-billon dollar company putting on this stream. as I said, since yinsu was never a part of the segment, it is extremely likely she didn't even know about it until close to broadcast as there would be no reason for her to. even if she did, why would saying something stop them from doing it? Steel wanted to do the segment, developed it, yet cause Yinsu says, "maybe we shouldn't" they're gonna cancel the whole thing??

" Coms dad always defends him if com has a bad performance, do you see anyone shitting on com's dad? no because he never shits on other players, he always stands up for his son. We only know him as coms dad, he is not out there on the broadcast making fun of other players bad performances and downfalls". Again refer to #111 or what I wrote before. Attacking Yinsu as if she is the face of VCT EMEA is crazy.

"So if someone she doesn't know gets hate that's fine?" Trying to put words in my mouth is crazy. As you know, I was saying she doesn't know com personally, so she doesn't see any tolls that the hate might take on his mental health, as she does with Boaster.

"Not mixing up work and relationships is a very simple task, so when you enforce such tweets, please see that the general public will see it from the stand point of her being a talent on the broadcast and not boasters gf" Except that she literally didn't! She made the tweet on HER YinsuCollins Twitter account! Her PERSONAL account! Not from the VCT EMEA account. Again a personal account! She is being attacked for giving her opinions on her own account!

Here we go again:

"You skipped over #111 because it invalidates these claims. VCT is run by a production company. it isn't plat chat. it's not 5 friends on a couch putting on a little show. this is a multi-billion dollar company putting on this stream. as I said, since yinsu was never a part of the segment, it is extremely likely she didn't even know about it until close to broadcast as there would be no reason for her to. even if she did, why would saying something stop them from doing it? Steel wanted to do the segment, developed it, yet cause Yinsu says, "maybe we shouldn't" they're gonna cancel the whole thing??" -- Thanks for #111, i had not seen it. So to start off, i never mentioned that she should cancel that segment or that she has the power to cancel the segment. I simply said she could've tweeted something or said something. It could've been after seeing the segment or anytime after. If she wanted to tweet something about a players mental health, how come she didn't tweet anything that time. That said player (yay) got 10 times the hate boaster is getting rn, infact steel was so nice to give him a vct segment, did all that warrant to nothing? why not tweet something then? if this was about defending players from hate, that would've been a great time to start no? Also i wanna add, i understand that yinsu is a part of the broadcast not the entire broadcast itself, she doesnt not have the power to stop the an entire segment or change the production material at all.

"Again refer to #111 or what I wrote before. Attacking Yinsu as if she is the face of VCT EMEA is crazy." -- Could you please mention the part where i said/insinuated that yinsu is face of VCT EMEA? also i never attacked her, I'm simply wondering why when there were people being disrespectful/mean towards yay, how come she didn't say anything like she did right now? I respect yinsu, but the timing of the tweet is kinda off considering all the things that have happened.

"Trying to put words in my mouth is crazy. As you know, I was saying she doesn't know com personally, so she doesn't see any tolls that the hate might take on his mental health, as she does with Boaster." -- This one is a funny one, cuz how did i put words into your mouth? Do you see the question mark at the my message, it means I'm asking you so please don't throw meaningless garbage into this conversation. The she doesnt see any trolls argument, ahaha are you serious? How come she saw all the tweets, threads, reddit posts about boaster? Does this mean she has a way of seeing the hate without the hate? She must've opened those respective websites right? I know she doesnt know c0m personally but I'm sure she must've seen all the tweets and hate threads. She even follows c0ms dad and he was actively tweeting about it and now if that isisnt enough proof, i don't know what is.

"Except that she literally didn't! She made the tweet on HER YinsuCollins Twitter account! Her PERSONAL account! Not from the VCT EMEA account. Again a personal account! She is being attacked for giving her opinions on her own account!" -- This is her twitter bio btw (Freelance Esports Host/Interviewer & VALORANT Content Creator), pretty sure it says that she is a person of her own. Her job is an esports interviewee, so please see her that way. When in a public environment, she is a esports talent not boasters gf and all tweets made will be seen that way. Infact i personally think you're belittling her by seeing her as someone girlfriend so please refrain from doing so. She her as her own person. And your argument that her twt account yinsucollins is a personal account, so is there a professional account? if so please direct me to that, i will apologize for this statement. And why would she tweet from the VCT EMEA account, that's completely irrelevant? She can give her opinion all she wants, she has the right to do so, but when it was happening to someone other than her boyfriend right in front of her eyes, she should've said something if she truly believed what she said. This just seems like some biased opinion just because boaster played bad and everyone is hating on it.

DSGFan [#140]

As an employee, you always have the option to say "I'm not comfortable doing this" or "I think doing this thing is wrong". So even if it was pushed by Riot Production overlords, you have the choice to voice opposition. Or if she didn't know and it just happened while she was on the desk, she has the chance afterwards to say "Hey, I thought this segment was too much." But she didn't. If anything, in her interactions with Steel across various casts, she seems to goad on his hating. And before you try to say "she has to worry about job security", the entirety of plat chat is boycotting casting in Shanghai because of their disagreements with practices of the Chinese government. Making a tweet after the broadcast saying "Hey, i think this segment was harsh and unnecessary. I don't think we should encourage hate on the broadcast." would be appropriate if you truly care about the mental health of players in the scene. The problem I have with her isn't the fact of her defending her boyfriend; that's fine. The problem is that she is admonishing the audience for something she helped encourage towards others.

Now, coming onto what you said in #111. First of all, you are pushing an assumption about production control as fact. And as I said above, you still have the choice as an employee to voice disapproval. Secondly, there is evidence to suggest that the whole segment was planned by the broadcast talent/with broadcast talent approval. If you watch all the discussion that occurred around the time when Americas production showed FNS' stats from the MiBR game in 2023, the conclusions from that were that local production and desk analysts have a lot of control over the show, and if things were left entirely to them, they wouldn't fine anyone for shooting bodies. So if we're going to make assumptions based on data, it is more likely that Yinsu was at the very least passively involved in the creation of the segment.

Lastly, "she doesn't see the effect/toll of other players receiving hate" is such an infuriating and hair-splitting bullshit argument. As a human being capable of fucking logical reasoning, if you/a loved receiving hate negatively affects you, it is fucking OBVIOUS that someone receiving even more intense hate will be affected. In the case of yay, she even DID SEE how it was affecting him because of yay's depressed tweets. So it would be good of her to CONSISTENTLY discourage hate in the community, not only when it comes around to someone she cares about.

To wrap it up, no one is saying defending your loved ones is a bad thing. That is a mischaracterization of this thread. This thread is highlighting her hypocritical act, and the goal of it is to get her to start discouraging excessive hate whenever it happens, which she is in a position to do as a leading broadcast talent.

This reply put it better than i did, good work.

DSGFan [#140]

As an employee, you always have the option to say "I'm not comfortable doing this" or "I think doing this thing is wrong". So even if it was pushed by Riot Production overlords, you have the choice to voice opposition. Or if she didn't know and it just happened while she was on the desk, she has the chance afterwards to say "Hey, I thought this segment was too much." But she didn't. If anything, in her interactions with Steel across various casts, she seems to goad on his hating. And before you try to say "she has to worry about job security", the entirety of plat chat is boycotting casting in Shanghai because of their disagreements with practices of the Chinese government. Making a tweet after the broadcast saying "Hey, i think this segment was harsh and unnecessary. I don't think we should encourage hate on the broadcast." would be appropriate if you truly care about the mental health of players in the scene. The problem I have with her isn't the fact of her defending her boyfriend; that's fine. The problem is that she is admonishing the audience for something she helped encourage towards others.

Now, coming onto what you said in #111. First of all, you are pushing an assumption about production control as fact. And as I said above, you still have the choice as an employee to voice disapproval. Secondly, there is evidence to suggest that the whole segment was planned by the broadcast talent/with broadcast talent approval. If you watch all the discussion that occurred around the time when Americas production showed FNS' stats from the MiBR game in 2023, the conclusions from that were that local production and desk analysts have a lot of control over the show, and if things were left entirely to them, they wouldn't fine anyone for shooting bodies. So if we're going to make assumptions based on data, it is more likely that Yinsu was at the very least passively involved in the creation of the segment.

Lastly, "she doesn't see the effect/toll of other players receiving hate" is such an infuriating and hair-splitting bullshit argument. As a human being capable of fucking logical reasoning, if you/a loved receiving hate negatively affects you, it is fucking OBVIOUS that someone receiving even more intense hate will be affected. In the case of yay, she even DID SEE how it was affecting him because of yay's depressed tweets. So it would be good of her to CONSISTENTLY discourage hate in the community, not only when it comes around to someone she cares about.

To wrap it up, no one is saying defending your loved ones is a bad thing. That is a mischaracterization of this thread. This thread is highlighting her hypocritical act, and the goal of it is to get her to start discouraging excessive hate whenever it happens, which she is in a position to do as a leading broadcast talent.

I read allat and it was poetry

DSGFan [#108]

explain

What does Steel shittalking his ex teammate have to do with Yinsu or Kaquka AT ALL? They didn't do it LOL, why are you looking for these two to have done something bad? You have no reason to think they agree with him at all. People don't clear every single thing they're gonna say on broadcast to the entirety of the broadcast team. Steel said something inappropriate because it's his own personal brand.

How does Yinsu mentioning it when it's someone close to her mean that she doesn't care if it's happening to someone else? You are holding her to a standard you wouldn't hold yourself to. If you stood up for someone in your life and some dude on the internet asked you "Oh well what about when it happens to other people?" your first thought would be "Of course I don't think it's good when it happens to other people, what does that have to do with anything." Be serious. You've just leapt to the conclusion that she is a hypocrite based off of nothing. I don't love the Kaquka tweet but to call her a hypocrite in anyway is using the same flawed logic. Why are you holding two women accountable for something a man did?

Siigma777 [#123]

Let me break down everything you said and counter you:

"Steel is her coworker and she was on the broadcast when Steel was roasting the fuck out yay. So this is not something that she is not completely involved in?". You skipped over #111 because it invalidates these claims. VCT is run by a production company. it isn't plat chat. it's not 5 friends on a couch putting on a little show. this is a multi-billon dollar company putting on this stream. as I said, since yinsu was never a part of the segment, it is extremely likely she didn't even know about it until close to broadcast as there would be no reason for her to. even if she did, why would saying something stop them from doing it? Steel wanted to do the segment, developed it, yet cause Yinsu says, "maybe we shouldn't" they're gonna cancel the whole thing??

" Coms dad always defends him if com has a bad performance, do you see anyone shitting on com's dad? no because he never shits on other players, he always stands up for his son. We only know him as coms dad, he is not out there on the broadcast making fun of other players bad performances and downfalls". Again refer to #111 or what I wrote before. Attacking Yinsu as if she is the face of VCT EMEA is crazy.

"So if someone she doesn't know gets hate that's fine?" Trying to put words in my mouth is crazy. As you know, I was saying she doesn't know com personally, so she doesn't see any tolls that the hate might take on his mental health, as she does with Boaster.

"Not mixing up work and relationships is a very simple task, so when you enforce such tweets, please see that the general public will see it from the stand point of her being a talent on the broadcast and not boasters gf" Except that she literally didn't! She made the tweet on HER YinsuCollins Twitter account! Her PERSONAL account! Not from the VCT EMEA account. Again a personal account! She is being attacked for giving her opinions on her own account!

Also, you see now why I directed you to #114 earlier? You just got two lengthy responses to one comment with overlapping arguments.

Weagle [#155]

What does Steel shittalking his ex teammate have to do with Yinsu or Kaquka AT ALL? They didn't do it LOL, why are you looking for these two to have done something bad? You have no reason to think they agree with him at all. People don't clear every single thing they're gonna say on broadcast to the entirety of the broadcast team. Steel said something inappropriate because it's his own personal brand.

How does Yinsu mentioning it when it's someone close to her mean that she doesn't care if it's happening to someone else? You are holding her to a standard you wouldn't hold yourself to. If you stood up for someone in your life and some dude on the internet asked you "Oh well what about when it happens to other people?" your first thought would be "Of course I don't think it's good when it happens to other people, what does that have to do with anything." Be serious. You've just leapt to the conclusion that she is a hypocrite based off of nothing. I don't love the Kaquka tweet but to call her a hypocrite in anyway is using the same flawed logic. Why are you holding two women accountable for something a man did?

see #140 and the discussion leading up to it

IonlywatchvcjXD [#151]

That's because he has to look at the comments live bro. You wouldn't want to see 1/3 of the chats are just retards spamming y0y do you?

Is not saying "let's not spread hate" is equal to not caring abt mental health at all?

Your response is incoherent and doesn't really make sense to me. Could you reword it? I don't get what it is you're asking. Genuinely asking you to reword so I understand.

DSGFan [#18]

I hope so. I like to see people prove haters wrong. While the G2 loss hurt for me as a PRX fan, I can't help but feel happy that the Ascension team is proving that T2 talent is just as good as tier 1 talent.

I hope we see a Soulcas-esque comeback from yay

L1NK_Lover [#159]

I hope we see a Soulcas-esque comeback from yay

That's a really poignant thing to bring up given that Yinsu actually spread this sort of toxicity a while back towards soulcas

DSGFan [#158]

Your response is incoherent and doesn't really make sense to me. Could you reword it? I don't get what it is you're asking. Genuinely asking you to reword so I understand.

Sideshow did that out of convenience, he has a following and he streams and make podcast every week . You don't want to be known as someone who have shitty fans. Not saying sideshow doesn't have any other motives tho.

Btw I'm not making any replies after this anymore sry. I'm just tired yk

IonlywatchvcjXD [#161]

Sideshow did that out of convenience, he has a following and he streams and make podcast every week . You don't want to be known as someone who have shitty fans. Not saying sideshow doesn't have any other motives tho.

Btw I'm not making any replies after this anymore sry. I'm just tired yk

"out of convivence" what are you trying to say with this? oh he edited his comment right after lol

IonlywatchvcjXD [#161]

Sideshow did that out of convenience, he has a following and he streams and make podcast every week . You don't want to be known as someone who have shitty fans. Not saying sideshow doesn't have any other motives tho.

Btw I'm not making any replies after this anymore sry. I'm just tired yk

Yinsu literally created a podcast with Boaster recently that is picking up a following. And now you're just casting slander onto Sideshow's motives, when unlike Yinsu, Sideshow has been decently consistent in boycotting totalitarian regimes.

wiki [#62]

yes, just as i don't understand the nuances of American conversation, as i never will be able to unless i live there, the same for every other English speaking country lol. it's not a question of me being on a high horse, more about a lack humbleness from you.

well the word boaster was put in speech marks, so it implies that it is a proper noun, not a verbal one, aka boaster's username. in any case, i'm still waiting for your example of any of them being on their 'high horse'.

why are you so awfully pressed, you sound hella defensive

DSGFan [#157]

see #140 and the discussion leading up to it

"As an employee, you always have the option to say "I'm not comfortable doing this" or "I think doing this thing is wrong". So even if it was pushed by Riot Production overlords, you have the choice to voice opposition. Or if she didn't know and it just happened while she was on the desk, she has the chance afterwards to say "Hey, I thought this segment was too much." But she didn't."
What are you talking about? Why do you think she didn't voice opposition? You have no reason to think she didn't LOL. You cannot claim that she is ENCOURAGING people to shit talk players be serious. You are holding, I'm really hoping coincidentally, two women to a higher standard than you are any of the men on broadcast. If you tell me that you would genuinely demand one of the other men on the EMEA broadcast to tweet out that they didn't like that segment then I'll say fine and move on. Plenty of people on plenty of broadcasts at Riot have just let segments go by that they didn't support. Assuming you think what Sideshow is doing is good and not hypocritical, that would be something worth praising, not that Yinsu should be admonished for not publicly saying she didn't support the segment. Hold the men on broadcast to the same standard. https://x.com/Tombizz/status/1796916721841754177 https://x.com/Tombizz/status/1796932650663285099 Do you not care about Tombizz doing the same thing?
Also about Plat Chat, Sideshow stepped away because of his own, in my opinion, hypocritical beliefs about China (anything you think China is doing the US is doing) so if you care about hypocrisy why don't you call that out? For the rest of Plat Chat, as far as we know Bren didn't go because his casting partner didn't go, Wyatt has never been to a LAN before no reason to think he turned down an invite and Balla turned down an invite for the last LAN cause of his young kid and presumably did that again. Claiming "the entirety of Plat Chat stood up and said we won't go!" is a very slimy way of phrasing it.

This the only post left from the Mod's wrath, I wonder how long this stays up

Saiki_taha [#166]

This the only post left from the Mod's wrath, I wonder how long this stays up

If the post is still up, that means mods agree.

+1 Don't see any mental health activist when other players talk shit and don't back it up

Yinsu deleted her tweet

this still up wowie

Weagle [#165]

"As an employee, you always have the option to say "I'm not comfortable doing this" or "I think doing this thing is wrong". So even if it was pushed by Riot Production overlords, you have the choice to voice opposition. Or if she didn't know and it just happened while she was on the desk, she has the chance afterwards to say "Hey, I thought this segment was too much." But she didn't."
What are you talking about? Why do you think she didn't voice opposition? You have no reason to think she didn't LOL. You cannot claim that she is ENCOURAGING people to shit talk players be serious. You are holding, I'm really hoping coincidentally, two women to a higher standard than you are any of the men on broadcast. If you tell me that you would genuinely demand one of the other men on the EMEA broadcast to tweet out that they didn't like that segment then I'll say fine and move on. Plenty of people on plenty of broadcasts at Riot have just let segments go by that they didn't support. Assuming you think what Sideshow is doing is good and not hypocritical, that would be something worth praising, not that Yinsu should be admonished for not publicly saying she didn't support the segment. Hold the men on broadcast to the same standard. https://x.com/Tombizz/status/1796916721841754177 https://x.com/Tombizz/status/1796932650663285099 Do you not care about Tombizz doing the same thing?
Also about Plat Chat, Sideshow stepped away because of his own, in my opinion, hypocritical beliefs about China (anything you think China is doing the US is doing) so if you care about hypocrisy why don't you call that out? For the rest of Plat Chat, as far as we know Bren didn't go because his casting partner didn't go, Wyatt has never been to a LAN before no reason to think he turned down an invite and Balla turned down an invite for the last LAN cause of his young kid and presumably did that again. Claiming "the entirety of Plat Chat stood up and said we won't go!" is a very slimy way of phrasing it.

I have no idea why you're so hyper focused on gender. I made the thread about Yinsu (and Kaquka) because those were the two tweets I saw from a thread on the valorant competitive subreddit. Their gender has nothing to do with anything. And by the way, with all the things you're trying to imply, you're assuming that I'm a certain gender.

I think Yinsu didn't voice opposition because 1. she didn't voice any opposition publicly(which was the most important thing to do) and 2. she was on the desk and seemed to have fun with Steel's segment. As a public figure, not voicing opposition to something means you functionally approve of it.

If Tombizz was on the cast that day/saw the yay segment, then yes, everything I said here applies to him too. Tombizz's tweet didn't get reposted everywhere because he isn't as promiment as a figure as Yinsu and Kaquka. So sorry I didn't see Tombizz's tweet I guess? And back when Steel did the segment, I voiced disagreement about it and him specifically. There is no mysterious targeting of only female talent here.

With respect to Sideshow and Platchat, yes, the US gov does many bad things, but living in the US is 100% better than China. In this country you can say "Fuck Trump" and "Fuck Joe Biden" when they are in the most powerful position in the country without repercussions, which is something you cannot do in China. China is a totalitarian country; to say that the US is as totalitarian as China is asinine. And with respect to your Balla point, then kindly explain why Balla has joined the boys in Korea. Debating US vs China further would venture into politics, so let's not go there. The point of me bringing up plat chat was to show that Yinsu has the ability to voice disagreement without repercussions, so she should.

Ballsamolee [#167]

If the post is still up, that means mods agree.

Nah, I give it 12 Hours

Saiki_taha [#166]

This the only post left from the Mod's wrath, I wonder how long this stays up

bro is mad his copy-paste spam got deleted

Ballsamolee [#167]

If the post is still up, that means mods agree.

true but sad

you gotta get a life man. no human should care this much about a bunch of strangers halfway around the world.

DSGFan [#173]

bro is mad his copy-paste spam got deleted

You the better yinsu hater, I accept defeat

sdgdfdrgdrfgdrgdrfttdhy [#175]

you gotta get a life man. no human should care this much about a bunch of strangers halfway around the world.

977 posts and 0 stars is outrageous

DSGFan [#171]

I have no idea why you're so hyper focused on gender. I made the thread about Yinsu (and Kaquka) because those were the two tweets I saw from a thread on the valorant competitive subreddit. Their gender has nothing to do with anything. And by the way, with all the things you're trying to imply, you're assuming that I'm a certain gender.

I think Yinsu didn't voice opposition because 1. she didn't voice any opposition publicly(which was the most important thing to do) and 2. she was on the desk and seemed to have fun with Steel's segment. As a public figure, not voicing opposition to something means you functionally approve of it.

If Tombizz was on the cast that day/saw the yay segment, then yes, everything I said here applies to him too. Tombizz's tweet didn't get reposted everywhere because he isn't as promiment as a figure as Yinsu and Kaquka. So sorry I didn't see Tombizz's tweet I guess? And back when Steel did the segment, I voiced disagreement about it and him specifically. There is no mysterious targeting of only female talent here.

With respect to Sideshow and Platchat, yes, the US gov does many bad things, but living in the US is 100% better than China. In this country you can say "Fuck Trump" and "Fuck Joe Biden" when they are in the most powerful position in the country without repercussions, which is something you cannot do in China. China is a totalitarian country; to say that the US is as totalitarian as China is asinine. And with respect to your Balla point, then kindly explain why Balla has joined the boys in Korea. Debating US vs China further would venture into politics, so let's not go there. The point of me bringing up plat chat was to show that Yinsu has the ability to voice disagreement without repercussions, so she should.

I think it’s very naive to wonder why I might bring up gender scrolling through many vlr/twitter/reddit/whatever threads including this one, if you can’t see the misogyny then you’re choosing to not see it. Anything I’m implying would apply to anyone, regardless of gender, but I’m glad you hold your same opinion for a man.

“As a public figure, not voicing opposition to something means you functionally approve of it.” I don’t even know what to say to this, I think this is ridiculous frankly but I can see I won’t change your mind. You have just decided to think that way without anything concrete to base it off of.

About Sideshow let’s just say it’s very convenient that the US is juuust before his moral boundary line and China is over it. Balla is there for half the time he would’ve had to be otherwise. (Not looking to go further, you just asked about it directly).

Weagle [#178]

I think it’s very naive to wonder why I might bring up gender scrolling through many vlr/twitter/reddit/whatever threads including this one, if you can’t see the misogyny then you’re choosing to not see it. Anything I’m implying would apply to anyone, regardless of gender, but I’m glad you hold your same opinion for a man.

“As a public figure, not voicing opposition to something means you functionally approve of it.” I don’t even know what to say to this, I think this is ridiculous frankly but I can see I won’t change your mind. You have just decided to think that way without anything concrete to base it off of.

About Sideshow let’s just say it’s very convenient that the US is juuust before his moral boundary line and China is over it. Balla is there for half the time he would’ve had to be otherwise. (Not looking to go further, you just asked about it directly).

I think Weagle is secretly Yinsu undercover

Yangguizi [#177]

977 posts and 0 stars is outrageous

unsurprisingly the person who cares about vlr stars is mad about being told to get a life

sdgdfdrgdrfgdrgdrfttdhy [#180]

unsurprisingly the person who cares about vlr stars is mad about being told to get a life

Just pointing out that you clearly have very shitty takes

Yangguizi [#181]

Just pointing out that you clearly have very shitty takes

If your idea of having good takes is having a bunch of rando's on a valorant suck you off with internet updoots then you are technically correct. Personally, I don't consider pandering to the lowest common denominator having "good takes." Regardless good luck finding that life o yours.

Siigma777 [#98]

"everyone". why don't you read what you write

Usually you when someone uses “everyone” or “no one”, it is not literal, and meant to be used as an exaggeration, though sometimes based on context you can assume that they are being literal.

Yangguizi [#181]

Just pointing out that you clearly have very shitty takes

u know stars dont have to do with upvotes and downvotes righgt

UnitedKingdom [#61]

If english is your first language, thats embarrassing.
Its pretty obvious he meant “literally boasters” as in the fucking WORD BOASTER/BOASTING. I have a hard time believing you have never seen or heard the word boast(er/ing). It wasnt saying boaster, the player, was anything, it was saying “these casters are literally boasters (cocky, bragging, pompous, etc)”

I can confirm that this is exactly correct, it was a play-on words with boaster being both a bragger like the Emea talent and the players name

YvngKurry [#8]

honestly great take. the twisten thing irked me so much tbh.

do you have a link for the twisten clip?

sdgdfdrgdrfgdrgdrfttdhy [#180]

unsurprisingly the person who cares about vlr stars is mad about being told to get a life

lmfao xD owned those vlr nerds

Enquiem [#187]

lmfao xD owned those vlr nerds

@Yangguizi these are the kids who are validating your takes

Weagle [#178]

I think it’s very naive to wonder why I might bring up gender scrolling through many vlr/twitter/reddit/whatever threads including this one, if you can’t see the misogyny then you’re choosing to not see it. Anything I’m implying would apply to anyone, regardless of gender, but I’m glad you hold your same opinion for a man.

“As a public figure, not voicing opposition to something means you functionally approve of it.” I don’t even know what to say to this, I think this is ridiculous frankly but I can see I won’t change your mind. You have just decided to think that way without anything concrete to base it off of.

About Sideshow let’s just say it’s very convenient that the US is juuust before his moral boundary line and China is over it. Balla is there for half the time he would’ve had to be otherwise. (Not looking to go further, you just asked about it directly).

"I don’t even know what to say to this, I think this is ridiculous frankly but I can see I won’t change your mind. You have just decided to think that way without anything concrete to base it off of."

Because it is literally true. If a public figure sits by on the side while something happens, it means they functionally approve it because they aren't acting to stop it. It's very simple.

pHm [#38]

Insane copium, there's thousands of normal users on here. ( I swear )

Yeah and none of them use it regularly.

Yangguizi [#177]

977 posts and 0 stars is outrageous

wtf i thought this and looked down and you already commented it lmao

sdgdfdrgdrfgdrgdrfttdhy [#188]

@Yangguizi these are the kids who are validating your takes

?? He’s literally agreeing with you 💀💀💀🐷🐷🐷. You good?

DSGFan [#142]

No, she only has to discourage hate when she sees it, and definitely not encourage it, which is what that EMEA segment did.

She did the same when it was directed to her boyfriend, most of that segment was done by steel anyways, your point on hypocrisy would be valid if she brought up the hate thing on broadcast but it was on her personal Twitter account for her boyfriend which has nothing to do with the broadcast

Yangguizi [#192]

?? He’s literally agreeing with you 💀💀💀🐷🐷🐷. You good?

oh you're unable to detect basic sarcasm too. thats kinda sad. good luck with that man.

Never forget ibuypower 2014 steel is a piece of shit

sdgdfdrgdrfgdrgdrfttdhy [#194]

oh you're unable to detect basic sarcasm too. thats kinda sad. good luck with that man.

Tell me how to to detect sarcasm through text please 🤡🫵

which game VCT EMEA desk criticized Yay? include timestamp if possible

Hunter09 [#152]

Here we go again:

"You skipped over #111 because it invalidates these claims. VCT is run by a production company. it isn't plat chat. it's not 5 friends on a couch putting on a little show. this is a multi-billion dollar company putting on this stream. as I said, since yinsu was never a part of the segment, it is extremely likely she didn't even know about it until close to broadcast as there would be no reason for her to. even if she did, why would saying something stop them from doing it? Steel wanted to do the segment, developed it, yet cause Yinsu says, "maybe we shouldn't" they're gonna cancel the whole thing??" -- Thanks for #111, i had not seen it. So to start off, i never mentioned that she should cancel that segment or that she has the power to cancel the segment. I simply said she could've tweeted something or said something. It could've been after seeing the segment or anytime after. If she wanted to tweet something about a players mental health, how come she didn't tweet anything that time. That said player (yay) got 10 times the hate boaster is getting rn, infact steel was so nice to give him a vct segment, did all that warrant to nothing? why not tweet something then? if this was about defending players from hate, that would've been a great time to start no? Also i wanna add, i understand that yinsu is a part of the broadcast not the entire broadcast itself, she doesnt not have the power to stop the an entire segment or change the production material at all.

"Again refer to #111 or what I wrote before. Attacking Yinsu as if she is the face of VCT EMEA is crazy." -- Could you please mention the part where i said/insinuated that yinsu is face of VCT EMEA? also i never attacked her, I'm simply wondering why when there were people being disrespectful/mean towards yay, how come she didn't say anything like she did right now? I respect yinsu, but the timing of the tweet is kinda off considering all the things that have happened.

"Trying to put words in my mouth is crazy. As you know, I was saying she doesn't know com personally, so she doesn't see any tolls that the hate might take on his mental health, as she does with Boaster." -- This one is a funny one, cuz how did i put words into your mouth? Do you see the question mark at the my message, it means I'm asking you so please don't throw meaningless garbage into this conversation. The she doesnt see any trolls argument, ahaha are you serious? How come she saw all the tweets, threads, reddit posts about boaster? Does this mean she has a way of seeing the hate without the hate? She must've opened those respective websites right? I know she doesnt know c0m personally but I'm sure she must've seen all the tweets and hate threads. She even follows c0ms dad and he was actively tweeting about it and now if that isisnt enough proof, i don't know what is.

"Except that she literally didn't! She made the tweet on HER YinsuCollins Twitter account! Her PERSONAL account! Not from the VCT EMEA account. Again a personal account! She is being attacked for giving her opinions on her own account!" -- This is her twitter bio btw (Freelance Esports Host/Interviewer & VALORANT Content Creator), pretty sure it says that she is a person of her own. Her job is an esports interviewee, so please see her that way. When in a public environment, she is a esports talent not boasters gf and all tweets made will be seen that way. Infact i personally think you're belittling her by seeing her as someone girlfriend so please refrain from doing so. She her as her own person. And your argument that her twt account yinsucollins is a personal account, so is there a professional account? if so please direct me to that, i will apologize for this statement. And why would she tweet from the VCT EMEA account, that's completely irrelevant? She can give her opinion all she wants, she has the right to do so, but when it was happening to someone other than her boyfriend right in front of her eyes, she should've said something if she truly believed what she said. This just seems like some biased opinion just because boaster played bad and everyone is hating on it.

You do not need to copy and paste my whole paragraph into yours to make it obscenely long please.

1st paragraph: More people than just you are responding to this thread. just because I am rebutting a point does not mean it is yours. I'll say it for like the 4th time now. Yinsu knows boaster personally. she PERSONALLY sees impact negative attention had on boaster. this is the only instance where someone in her personal life has been affected by this. she sees the outcome, and is speaking out against it.

2nd: everything written above. I have to reply to more than just you.

3rd: You literally sat and typed a whole paragraph because you misread 1 word in my previous reply. I said "tolls", not "trolls". Please proofread before taking things as fact and "please don't throw meaningless garbage into this conversation"

4th: So your argument is that she can't have her job title in her bio. do you not realize how dumb these things sound while typing? Hit control F and type "boasters gf". you are quiet literally the only person in this whole thread who has referred to her as that. You say "please don't throw meaningless garbage into this conversation" then try and play a sexism card. if you don't have anything legitimate to say then just say that.

Yangguizi [#196]

Tell me how to to detect sarcasm through text please 🤡🫵

that all? oh well. bye bye 👋

Siigma777 [#198]

You do not need to copy and paste my whole paragraph into yours to make it obscenely long please.

1st paragraph: More people than just you are responding to this thread. just because I am rebutting a point does not mean it is yours. I'll say it for like the 4th time now. Yinsu knows boaster personally. she PERSONALLY sees impact negative attention had on boaster. this is the only instance where someone in her personal life has been affected by this. she sees the outcome, and is speaking out against it.

2nd: everything written above. I have to reply to more than just you.

3rd: You literally sat and typed a whole paragraph because you misread 1 word in my previous reply. I said "tolls", not "trolls". Please proofread before taking things as fact and "please don't throw meaningless garbage into this conversation"

4th: So your argument is that she can't have her job title in her bio. do you not realize how dumb these things sound while typing? Hit control F and type "boasters gf". you are quiet literally the only person in this whole thread who has referred to her as that. You say "please don't throw meaningless garbage into this conversation" then try and play a sexism card. if you don't have anything legitimate to say then just say that.

also just because you get the incel twitter frogs of vlr to upvote your takes doesn't make them right... something to think about

livelovelaugh69 [#191]

wtf i thought this and looked down and you already commented it lmao

Dude is a certified Neanderthal, who clearly cares more about it then he is trying to lead on

NekoSugarGirls17 [#197]

which game VCT EMEA desk criticized Yay? include timestamp if possible

Steel criticized yay and everyone's just play along.

Prathades [#202]

Steel criticized yay and everyone's just play along.

okay? I asked which game.... 🙃

NekoSugarGirls17 [#197]

which game VCT EMEA desk criticized Yay? include timestamp if possible

A lot of people clearly remember it but I also want to view it

sdgdfdrgdrfgdrgdrfttdhy [#199]

that all? oh well. bye bye 👋

your blender brain can’t even respond, lmao. 🤡🫵

Yangguizi [#205]

your blender brain can’t even respond, lmao. 🤡🫵

Thanks for the validation this is really fun !

NekoSugarGirls17 [#197]

which game VCT EMEA desk criticized Yay? include timestamp if possible

https://x.com/VALO2ASIA/status/1781143263409500543?t=8dYXdeLQsH_I0lefOkyBSQ&s=19 here you go, find timestamp from this yourself u worm

Somehow a grammar battle broke out in here...damn

swaggerlikejagger [#45]

Never forget that most of the community like ardiis was laughing at SicK going through a rough time. No one here truly gives a shit about mental health, just virtue signaling.

i felt bad man.. i think even zellsis was laughing at sick

IonlywatchvcjXD [#58]

Cmiiw but was that how it's supposed to go? I mean the only one that's yapping is steel so others might not be involved with the script.

yinsu was on the broadcast and all desk 'analysts' are aware of each other's scripts

Saiki_taha [#207]

https://x.com/VALO2ASIA/status/1781143263409500543?t=8dYXdeLQsH_I0lefOkyBSQ&s=19 here you go, find timestamp from this yourself u worm

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