2022 Rekjavic Top 2
2022 Instanbul Top 1
2023 LockIN Top 2
2023 VCT americas Top 1
2023 Champions Top 3
and americucks STILL underrate his team.
May yall learn some rational thinking soon 🙏😭
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Asuna_Yuuki [#3]Rating LOUD lower is understandable, they lost their best player
Saadhak is their best player, Less is their anchor player.
Aspas is only what he is today because of saadhak
cioccolat [#4]Saadhak is their best player, Less is their anchor player.
Aspas is only what he is today because of saadhak
Ok aspas is what he is today because of saadhak, that doesnt make saadhak the best player lol. And ur sentence about less is so random lol
Mortadelo [#7]So we're not gonna talk about Reykjavik and Champions Berlin xD
You know when Loud came into val? xD
cioccolat [#4]Saadhak is their best player, Less is their anchor player.
Aspas is only what he is today because of saadhak
Yea but ur delusional if u think tuyZ or qck can replace aspas as a good duelist
They will get eaten alive by teams with better duelists such as NRG LEV and SEN
Asuna_Yuuki [#9]Yea but ur delusional if u think tuyZ or qck can replace aspas as a good duelist
They will get eaten alive by teams with better duelists such as NRG LEV and SEN
The point that's being made is that LOUD wasn't created from really established players in the scene, Sacy and Saadhak took players that hadn't even made international events, so why can't it be done again? aspas was just a ranked player (granted, an insanely high level one) with a few online tourneys when they picked him up, so why can't they do the same with qck?
But yeah, at face value it's a downgrade, though on the long run it may end up not being so
goofyahh1447 [#2]KEK
bro
LOUD actual results:
2022 reykjavik top 2
2022 copenhagen top 12 (0-2 in games lost to KRU and OPTIC)
2022 istanbul top 1
2023 lockin top 2
2023 tokyo top 8 (0-2 lost to EDG and EG)
2023 champs top 3
OP really put vct americas :skull:
sentinelmain377 [#11]bro
LOUD actual results:
2022 reykjavik top 2
2022 copenhagen top 12 (0-2 in games lost to KRU and OPTIC)
2022 istanbul top 1
2023 lockin top 2
2023 tokyo top 8 (0-2 lost to EDG and EG)
2023 champs top 3OP really put vct americas :skull:
why are you replying to me lil bro? I just KEK'd because he said "americucks". I don't care about l0ud.
sentinelmain377 [#11]bro
LOUD actual results:
2022 reykjavik top 2
2022 copenhagen top 12 (0-2 in games lost to KRU and OPTIC)
2022 istanbul top 1
2023 lockin top 2
2023 tokyo top 8 (0-2 lost to EDG and EG)
2023 champs top 3OP really put vct americas :skull:
6 tournaments and 4 podiums I don't understand what you mean
sentinelmain377 [#11]bro
LOUD actual results:
2022 reykjavik top 2
2022 copenhagen top 12 (0-2 in games lost to KRU and OPTIC)
2022 istanbul top 1
2023 lockin top 2
2023 tokyo top 8 (0-2 lost to EDG and EG)
2023 champs top 3OP really put vct americas :skull:
u know that’s still top tier results right
sentinelmain377 [#11]bro
LOUD actual results:
2022 reykjavik top 2
2022 copenhagen top 12 (0-2 in games lost to KRU and OPTIC)
2022 istanbul top 1
2023 lockin top 2
2023 tokyo top 8 (0-2 lost to EDG and EG)
2023 champs top 3OP really put vct americas :skull:
😁
Mortadelo [#7]So we're not gonna talk about Reykjavik and Champions Berlin xD
if you played against bronzes with gtn on your team the bronzes would win
Piter [#10]The point that's being made is that LOUD wasn't created from really established players in the scene, Sacy and Saadhak took players that hadn't even made international events, so why can't it be done again? aspas was just a ranked player (granted, an insanely high level one) with a few online tourneys when they picked him up, so why can't they do the same with qck?
But yeah, at face value it's a downgrade, though on the long run it may end up not being so
Qck is so bad he tries to keep that "aimer" aura but hes so ass bro think he demon1 😭😭😭😭 ive seen better clips from The ranked demons on radiant
thothgow [#17]if you played against bronzes with gtn on your team the bronzes would win
dont disrespect gtngod like that.
cartixuzi [#14]u know that’s still top tier results right
yes, just OP was making it look like LOUD did top 3 every tournament in a row
cohnr [#19]you did lose one of 2 star players tho, I feel like its fair to underrate them a bit until season start
Loud lost Pancada, the MVP of Champions 2022, still great.
Loud lost Sacy, their co-captain, still great.
why the fuck would it be different with aspas?
Na1my [#6]I would agree that Sadhack probably is their best piece, but losing aspas is a big loss.
Loud lost Pancada, the MVP of Champions 2022, still great.
Loud lost Sacy, their co-captain, still great.
why the fuck would it be different with aspas?
Asuna_Yuuki [#3]Rating LOUD lower is understandable, they lost their best player
Loud lost Pancada, the MVP of Champions 2022, still great.
Loud lost Sacy, their co-captain, still great.
why the fuck would it be different with aspas?
p0tsuz [#16]U guys don't have aspas anymore lol
Loud lost Pancada, the MVP of Champions 2022, still great.
Loud lost Sacy, their co-captain, still great.
why the fuck would it be different with aspas?
Obsidian_Echo [#23]i agree LOUD is still insanely good and will end up being #1 americas again...people just dont understand that there is no FNS anymore lmao
they really think Ethan, the mf that mid as hell without Potter and Demon1, who wasnt even the actual IGL of EG, is SOMEHOW going to diff CHAADHAK, also lets remember Cauanzin was dominating this mf
Mortadelo [#7]So we're not gonna talk about Reykjavik and Champions Berlin xD
lil bro thinks VKS = loud
sentinelmain377 [#22]yes, just OP was making it look like LOUD did top 3 every tournament in a row
yes, and you are trying to make it out to be none of this is impressive, and to undersell their consistency. and no, i am not a loud fan
cioccolat [#26]Loud lost Pancada, the MVP of Champions 2022, still great.
Loud lost Sacy, their co-captain, still great.why the fuck would it be different with aspas?
Because cauanzin and tuyZ are actually good replacements for sacy and pancada
Qck just isn’t
kanyefan4238173 [#35]i think they will still be apart of the big 4 americas teams, competing for spots at shanghai and the other events
Loud lost Pancada, the MVP of Champions 2022, still great.
Loud lost Sacy, their co-captain, still great.
why the fuck would it be different with aspas?
Also
How is any other team possibly going to outrank them?
Leviatan just imploded, its a quesion of time before they dissolve, Aspas himself is trying to get out since he went to LEV BECAUSE of Nzr
NRG has no Fns, No actual IGL, and a team that still needs to build a new system since their "IGL" never did so before nor did he do it under chet.
V0nity is just the NA murizz
G2 is not even close to LOUDs level
Boostio cant perform without Ethan and Potter AND Demon1
Kru did not upgrade at all
Mibr is ASS
Furia looks decent but not good enough to beat LOUD
The only team that looks strong enough to beat LOUD in Americas is Sentinels, but that is if the cursed org doesnt take effect
B1itz [#38]I dont think anyone is saying LOUD is gonna be bad, they are just gonna be worse than last year
Loud lost Pancada, the MVP of Champions 2022, still great.
Loud lost Sacy, their co-captain, still great.
why the fuck would it be different with aspas?
Also
How is any other team possibly going to outrank them?
Leviatan just imploded, its a quesion of time before they dissolve, Aspas himself is trying to get out since he went to LEV BECAUSE of Nzr
NRG has no Fns, No actual IGL, and a team that still needs to build a new system since their "IGL" never did so before nor did he do it under chet.
V0nity is just the NA murizz
G2 is not even close to LOUDs level
Boostio cant perform without Ethan and Potter AND Demon1
Kru did not upgrade at all
Mibr is ASS
Furia looks decent but not good enough to beat LOUD
The only team that looks strong enough to beat LOUD in Americas is Sentinels, but that is if the cursed org doesnt take effect
Lets not forget Loud won against Fnatic TACTICALLY, not becaus Aspas was popping off.
Louds kryptonite is Asian teams
cioccolat [#41]Loud lost Pancada, the MVP of Champions 2022, still great.
Loud lost Sacy, their co-captain, still great.why the fuck would it be different with aspas?
Also
How is any other team possibly going to outrank them?
Leviatan just imploded, its a quesion of time before they dissolve, Aspas himself is trying to get out since he went to LEV BECAUSE of Nzr
NRG has no Fns, No actual IGL, and a team that still needs to build a new system since their "IGL" never did so before nor did he do it under chet.
V0nity is just the NA murizz
G2 is not even close to LOUDs level
Boostio cant perform without Ethan and Potter AND Demon1
Kru did not upgrade at all
Mibr is ASS
Furia looks decent but not good enough to beat LOUDThe only team that looks strong enough to beat LOUD in Americas is Sentinels, but that is if the cursed org doesnt take effect
Lets not forget Loud won against Fnatic TACTICALLY, not becaus Aspas was popping off.
Louds kryptonite is Asian teams
thats all just cope.
LOUD did get worse in 2023 tho, it wasnt much but they had a worse year. Plus Cauanzin is better than Sacy. Qck isnt better than Aspas
B1itz [#42]thats all just cope.
LOUD did get worse in 2023 tho, it wasnt much but they had a worse year. Plus Cauanzin is better than Sacy. Qck isnt better than Aspas
it’s not as simple as comparing player by player. they changed structure by allowing the team to be more flexible. qck will not match aspas function exactly, he’s about to do more. tuyz and cauanzin are also not the same, they are not the childish kids you used to see, they’ve matured and tuyz himself is likely playing duelist some maps
Asuna_Yuuki [#37]Because cauanzin and tuyZ are actually good replacements for sacy and pancada
Qck just isn’t
okay bear with me for a minute here while i put on my tinfoil hat...
i think qck was signed to LOUD not because he would be a straight replacement for aspas, but because he provides agent versatility that Saadhak wants for this new era of LOUD. if you look at the comps they ran (no sentinel on fracture, breach-fade on ascent and pearl, even though they failed a bit) it shows to me that he wants to take the team in a very crazy, maybe even PRX style direction with weird stuff.
and so maybe he recognized that aspas is literally irreplaceable and they're gonna try something different, with more versatility. maybe they even go the no duelist route with some maps in the agent pool, or lean into the Neon. who knows. my faith is in the goat chaadhak.
cioccolat [#41]Loud lost Pancada, the MVP of Champions 2022, still great.
Loud lost Sacy, their co-captain, still great.why the fuck would it be different with aspas?
Also
How is any other team possibly going to outrank them?
Leviatan just imploded, its a quesion of time before they dissolve, Aspas himself is trying to get out since he went to LEV BECAUSE of Nzr
NRG has no Fns, No actual IGL, and a team that still needs to build a new system since their "IGL" never did so before nor did he do it under chet.
V0nity is just the NA murizz
G2 is not even close to LOUDs level
Boostio cant perform without Ethan and Potter AND Demon1
Kru did not upgrade at all
Mibr is ASS
Furia looks decent but not good enough to beat LOUDThe only team that looks strong enough to beat LOUD in Americas is Sentinels, but that is if the cursed org doesnt take effect
Lets not forget Loud won against Fnatic TACTICALLY, not becaus Aspas was popping off.
Louds kryptonite is Asian teams
Whilst i agree with your take except Lev and NRG part. Loud still top 3 Americas team no doubt and theyll prove haters wrong im sure of that. However, unless LEV players are literally raging and imploding during matches/ scrims i cant imagine them not placing in at least top 4 through out year americas and they still have chance to win worlds c0m is current world champ, aspas is aspas, they have king insane player and tex whos a good consistent support player which will aid them a lot. NRG's IGL problem you think they have is practically non-existent Vic, crashies and Ethan all have CS experience where calling and mid rounding is way way harder. Ethan has consistently played at the highest level in CS and VAL has played under some insane IGL's and has been mid rounding his entire VAL career, even if he isnt a classical type IGL he still has capability and knowledge / gamesense to IGL at the highest level he also has vic crashies and chet if he needs help midgame I dont see IGL being main issue at all.
Shidoh [#44]it’s not as simple as comparing player by player. they changed structure by allowing the team to be more flexible. qck will not match aspas function exactly, he’s about to do more. tuyz and cauanzin are also not the same, they are not the childish kids you used to see, they’ve matured and tuyz himself is likely playing duelist some maps
You make it sound like its been 10 years, every player has gotten older like whats such a weird thing to say. You cant argue that Quick is an upgrade over Aspas like thats all that really matters
cioccolat [#40]Loud lost Pancada, the MVP of Champions 2022, still great.
Loud lost Sacy, their co-captain, still great.why the fuck would it be different with aspas?
Also
How is any other team possibly going to outrank them?
Leviatan just imploded, its a quesion of time before they dissolve, Aspas himself is trying to get out since he went to LEV BECAUSE of Nzr
NRG has no Fns, No actual IGL, and a team that still needs to build a new system since their "IGL" never did so before nor did he do it under chet.
V0nity is just the NA murizz
G2 is not even close to LOUDs level
Boostio cant perform without Ethan and Potter AND Demon1
Kru did not upgrade at all
Mibr is ASS
Furia looks decent but not good enough to beat LOUDThe only team that looks strong enough to beat LOUD in Americas is Sentinels, but that is if the cursed org doesnt take effect
i mostly agree but nrg is quite good. having that guy who only plays igl isnt that important as a lot of the team is experienced with decision making at high levels
sentinelmain377 [#22]yes, just OP was making it look like LOUD did top 3 every tournament in a row
He wasn’t..? Where tf did you get this from?
B1itz [#47]You make it sound like its been 10 years, every player has gotten older like whats such a weird thing to say. You cant argue that Quick is an upgrade over Aspas like thats all that really matters
quick is an upgrade over aspas when it comes to flexibility, yes. LOUD can potentially be better in some maps because of that, yes. quick can make the rest of the team more comfortable while picking something convenient, yes. quick will get better by playing in a structured team for the first time, yes. he'll get better by gaining the experience from world champions, yes. yes.
valcygnus [#45]okay bear with me for a minute here while i put on my tinfoil hat...
i think qck was signed to LOUD not because he would be a straight replacement for aspas, but because he provides agent versatility that Saadhak wants for this new era of LOUD. if you look at the comps they ran (no sentinel on fracture, breach-fade on ascent and pearl, even though they failed a bit) it shows to me that he wants to take the team in a very crazy, maybe even PRX style direction with weird stuff.
and so maybe he recognized that aspas is literally irreplaceable and they're gonna try something different, with more versatility. maybe they even go the no duelist route with some maps in the agent pool, or lean into the Neon. who knows. my faith is in the goat chaadhak.
Sure
But in my opinion LOUD just won’t succeed without an elite duelist
Teams like NRG and LEV with Demon1 and Aspas will completely annihilate LOUD
cioccolat [#4]Saadhak is their best player, Less is their anchor player.
Aspas is only what he is today because of saadhak
less is their best player
cioccolat [#28]they really think Ethan, the mf that mid as hell without Potter and Demon1, who wasnt even the actual IGL of EG, is SOMEHOW going to diff CHAADHAK, also lets remember Cauanzin was dominating this mf
yes i agree, however u can be a little less aggressive, all good tho :) we love LOUD
cioccolat [#24]Loud lost Pancada, the MVP of Champions 2022, still great.
Loud lost Sacy, their co-captain, still great.why the fuck would it be different with aspas?
losing aspas is huge though, was (imo) always their best player, not exactly the same as the other losses. losing a duelist is different as well, the duelist is often the player that sets the tempo with the igl, the new duelist needs a lot of time to adjust to the way saadhak plays and calls. Im not saying they wont be as good eventually but I do expect them to struggle massively (in comparison to last year) this season especially in the early season and thats why its fair to underrate them for a while
333triplethreat [#8]You know when Loud came into val? xD
saadhak played for team vikings in 2021 and they almost win against prime gambit
BackoxyXD [#56]saadhak played for team vikings in 2021 and they almost win against prime gambit
nice!
thx for the information
Asuna_Yuuki [#52]Sure
But in my opinion LOUD just won’t succeed without an elite duelist
Teams like NRG and LEV with Demon1 and Aspas will completely annihilate LOUD
we'll see what happens, but i personally don't underestimate less cauan and tuyz
How many Brazilians will remain on this site when they fail to qualify for any international event.
Brazil looks weaker than the last two years and this is the strongest NA / Latam has ever looked.
Masters and champions have CRIMINALLY low amounts of teams. Madrid has 2 from Americas 😂.
Sen
NRG
LEV
Loud
+Whatever team is on a hot streak
That’s 5 legitimate teams fighting for 2-3 spots.
It’s a very real possibility that loud doesn’t make a tournament this year.
LouBag [#60]How many Brazilians will remain on this site when they fail to qualify for any international event.
Brazil looks weaker than the last two years and this is the strongest NA / Latam has ever looked.
Masters and champions have CRIMINALLY low amounts of teams. Madrid has 2 from Americas 😂.
Sen
NRG
LEV
Loud
+Whatever team is on a hot streakThat’s 5 legitimate teams fighting for 2-3 spots.
It’s a very real possibility that loud doesn’t make a tournament this year.
SEN and LEV still have brazilians on their team, and therefore the BR community will cheer for them, just like it has always been
cioccolat [#27]Loud lost Pancada, the MVP of Champions 2022, still great.
Loud lost Sacy, their co-captain, still great.why the fuck would it be different with aspas?
Aspas and Less carried this team in a lot of important macthes , do u really think nothing will change ?
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