"When you IGL your fragging power goes down"

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ninjaturtle

Sayf, kiNgg, valyn, stax, MaKo, johnqt, nobody, nephh, Munchkin, Melser, Francis, MrFaliN, nAts : Are you sure about that?

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Melser isnt igling anymore. As a matter of fact, melser best perfomances are when he isnt igling

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AnguAngu

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still adverso is fragging

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ninjaturtle

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Melser was still fragging well even when he was IGLing so yeah

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https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/1923/champions-tour-2024-americas-kickoff?exclude=23029.23030.23818.23017.23018.23019.23020.23021.23022.23023.23024.23026&min_rounds=0&agent=all

he had a .64 during kickoff and when they saw how bad he was while igling they went back to klaus for stage 1 and melsers rating jumped from .64 to 1.0

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Artzin

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229fn

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Artzin has left the chat...

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gamergirl

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a lot of these guys do go down in performance when theyre calling, just because theyre still good doesnt mean it dosent go down bro

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nooomy

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won nothing, won nothing, won nothing, won nothing, won nothing, had two midrounders to help, valid, won nothing, valid, won nothing, won nothing, won nothing, shit as an igl

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seofps

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so Redgar FNS and Boaster clear all of these guys?

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nooomy

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idk about redgar but i am picking boaster and fenis over everyone on this list other than nobody and munchkin, maybe johnqt in a couple of years

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grisx23

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No you are not

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unknown_trash

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there is no way that botster and fenis 2 of the worst fraggers in valorant are getting chosen over any igl that can at least carry their own weight lmao. its only recently that the igl culture has shifted from "big brain no aim" to "competent both as an igl and a fragger", from only last year. from now onwards, i expect to see a lot more teams with fragging igls to do really well as long as the rest of the team are not walking ult orbs.

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Alzi

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okay putting boaster in redgar fns tier is insane, hes not a crazy rifler but hes decent enough

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Galactc

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How many of these guys actually even frag?
Also most of them have their teams actually help midround

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darklord69

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munchkin and nobody are the only good callers on that list

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washedradiant

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Bro they all have lower fragging because of igl, they are just good players.

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Aayan

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I agree
if they weren't IGLing they would frag even better

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Sayf: has went down no?
kiNgg: idk
valyn: idk
stax: doesnt even igl anymore, probably with reason
MaKo: has went down no?
johnqt: idk one fluke event
nobody: it did go down
nephh: idk
Munchkin: good point
Melser: what ??😭 it is well documented that this guy performs way worse when igling, he was igl for kru in lcq 23 and kickoff 24 but his shooting was so bad in kickoff (like .6 or smth) they want back to klaus calling and all of a sudden he goes back to being good
Francis: idk
MrFaliN: idk
nAts: hasnt been top 2 on leaderboard in a single map for liquid soooo...

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Hades_Loves_Rb

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Sayf-fragging went down
kiNgg, -nothing to cpmpare it too
valyn, -nothing to cpmpare it too
stax-fragging went down by alot
MaKo-fragging went down
johnqt, -nothing to cpmpare it too
nobody-stayed the same
Munchkin-got better
Melser-fragging went down
Francis -nothing to cpmpare it too
MrFaliN-nothing to cpmpare it too
nAts-fragging went down

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Flame4Game

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For kINgg, wasn't adverso IGLing in 2022? His fragging was on par from before to after.

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kfan4238173

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adverso wasnt igling but was very vocal and a big emotional leader

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Flame4Game

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Oh, I see, thanks for the info then

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bro said munchkin 💀💀💀