Not to play devils advocate but.....

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Put a take hot or not in the comment and someone has to reply to it playing the devils advocate.
Ex (dont attck me for this example I jst wanted to show an example).
C: I think women can make t1
R. Not to play devils adocate but if women have the skills to make t1 then why arent there any women in t1?

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gamergirl

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y0y

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fr0nch person dni

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kanyefan4238173

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Aspas is not a baiter

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saynotoherpes

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7 won 1vX+1 (1v2-1v5) through the entire season

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meanie

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what is your point here lol

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saynotoherpes

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comically low compared to every other duelist that has played the same amount of games as him along with his low entry % leads to a picture of someone who farms in the midround and doesnt go for shit

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meanie

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but isn’t that 1vX stat only for clutches?

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saynotoherpes

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honestly was arguing more that he plays for stats

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meanie

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but if he has a low 1vX then that’s good for an engage duelist no?

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Not to play devils advocate but aspas has low first engagement numbers for a duelist and doesnt provide a good hard entry

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Harapan845

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the reason women arent in t1 is that esports and gaming as a whole is inherently misogynistic and there arent enough girls that play games from a young age to gather a substantial enough talent pool

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FrenchToast

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this is the answer

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VB37

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or they just suck

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Harapan845

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or you could look at it positively which I assume for an 100t fan is hard

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StutterSt3p

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Hey you have one thing in common with them then

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i see VB37 i type retard. misogynistic incel

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Not to play devils advocate but there are a high amt of women playing val compared to other games, also if women could compete with the best of the best of men why did the best gc team lose in open quals?

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Harapan845

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there arent enough girls that play games from a young age to gather a substantial enough talent pool

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Cause thats their decisions, most girls ik only play roblox

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Harapan845

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ok and you asked why i gave you a reason

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DownLoad_AimLabs

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are u slow let me break it down for u:
Low player base = Low talent pool

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Harapan845

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yes thats what i said?

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How is it misogynistic that a women cant compete with someone of a different gender?

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Harapan845

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the low player base is most probably due to being driven away for fps by the toxic nature of the games

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no it is because most women dont wanna play val or dont wanna buy a PC to play val

continue thread →

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StutterSt3p

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And what do you think affects their decisions?

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the ppl around them and the culture surrounding playing video games for a living

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StutterSt3p

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Ah so you know. We just getting baited smh.

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thats the truth, this tells me you've nvr hung out w/ women

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StutterSt3p

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What are you on about? What truth are you even referring to?

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if I said it on here id get banned so im not gonna say it

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Dallyn

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bro you don't have to "play devils advocate" when sexism is your real position lmfao, there are lots of dudes on here that would still be your friend

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im not sexist im jst disproving the notion that it is misogynistic to not include women in teams if their not good enough. If SR the best GC team couldnt make it out of open qualifiers what right do GC players have to play in t1

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idk if you realize the amount of pressure on them and they lose one game so automatically no women can play t1? you're right you aren't sexist!

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its OPEN qualifiers so everyone follows the same rules, if they cant make it to t2 how can they do well in t1. t2 is the stepping stone to t1

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famously no one has ever lost and open qualifier and then made it later. Idk how to explain to you that one GC team playing in one open qual doesn't mean every woman will never make it in t1, and that if you truly believe that you should go outside and talk to humans please!

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"one GC team" its the champs winning team, im not saying their cant be women in t1 im saying rn it wouldnt make sense for them to be in t1. yk why flor looks so good in games it because shes literally smurfing on these immo GC players. There is no reason for a immortal to be in t1.

edit: Bro I have a lot of male and female friends I talk to often so idk what ur getting at tryna insult me instead of answering the question

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Harapan845

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can i have the flaws presented please
(bullet point format is preferred)

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Tomczi

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"is inherently misogynistic" no, its just a skill issue, dudes get 'harassed' more times than women in games.

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Harapan845

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its far more targeted towards women when they are women than it being because they are men

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Tomczi

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it doesn't matter, if the harassment was misogynistic or not, harassment will be harassment, the point, is that dudes will threat each others familys in match and act like nothing happend the next match, while woman will get called to go back to the kitchen and make whole drama about it.

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Bro men do not get more hate in games than women, at least targeted hate.

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Tomczi

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Targeted hate definitely woman get more, but ur average gaming dude heard more sl*rs said to him than ur average gamer girl.

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The slurs aren't personal though. Like 14 year olds will just spout the n-word for no reason. However, the hate towards women is personal though. It's not just a general I'm pissed off so here's a mean term. It's a fuck you for existing in my game as a girl/woman.

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Not to play devil's advocate but playing from a young age isn't always needed to gather enough talent, people can play dedicatedly for 2-3years and make it in

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riot needs to move away from its excessive spending on GC and put the money towards t2 teams to promote a higher field of competition and make it so orgs actually want and can AFFORD to pick up valorant

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rito, the music company, is a really good game developing company. Its almost like they ARE a game developing company am I right?

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not to play the devils advocate but this game fucking sucks

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Woot is a better duelist than Miniboo

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But Miniboo provides a hard entry acting as like a drone unlike wo0t. wo0t also looks equally if not better on flex .

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miniboo has yet to have a perfornce as good as woot shanghai. Woot shanghai was the best duelist itw at that time and argubly him up till the GFs was the best performance of any player all year. He choked a bit in the GFs which due to how the team had little to no practice as a 5 prior to Shanghai +his fist t1 duelist performance+against the best team itw with tons of pressure on him to perform is understandable. Also his flex is still very good (as is miniboo on duelist) but im just saying Woot is better on duelist

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bro miniboos whole job is to act like a drone wo0t prob didnt want to do that

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EDG won champions 2024

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they didn't and you've been imagining it in your head the whole time

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Not to play devils advocate but the nvr played Gen. G the best team itw

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if s1mple switched to valorant full time in 2020 Ukraine would be a powerhouse region like Turkey in terms of talent and s1mple would be a 2x time Champs winner

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he would be literally yay tho but better

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quite literally

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He would be yay with a stronger mental, more experience, and more egoisitc as well as I believe better raw skill

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Harapan845

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i think that
1 prob get titled by the util dumping breaches
2 what agents would he want to learn that arent jett/chamber

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Any agent which has an ability to go for a self-peek, and which can trade teammmates, so almost any duelist. S1mple proved his adaptability throughout the years in CS

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i think that there would be a steep learning curve to this

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If other CS pros adapted, I don't see why s1mple couldn't. If he was in the first wave of CS arrivals, he would set the curve

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man can't even adapt to cs2

and youre expecting him to adapt to valorant

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i think 2020 simple could

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3/4 maps top frag, on par with donk on faceit, also we talk about 2020 s1mple

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Not to play devils advocate but s1mple would've been washed by this new talent

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S1mple schooled monesy, I am sure he would school primmie/woot/zekken. And while I am at it, cs players possess better mental and longevity than most valorant pros which just proves my point that s1mple would be broken

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reaction time starts falling off at like 25-26 if he showed some talent as an igl then maybe

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He doesn't rely on his mechanics only, he relies on his game sense, he is one of the most versatile cs players (alongside zywoo), he is like LeBron of CS

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listen I think this s1mple glazer is dumb but

reaction time peaks at 25-26 meaning you're at your "fastest" in terms of speed

but when you are 18-22 you are slower than 25-26. so it doesn't really matter at all tbh lol unless youre really old

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RRQ still can't get a placement above 5th-6th.

For me, kicking Lmemore was a weird decision

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Not to play devils advocate but rrq arent coming close to an international stage but kicking lmemore for kush was good and flip for monyet is amazing

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I don't know why people say CS is harde than valorant considering in CS u only gotta aim and have a basic plan while valorant is a much deeper game where u gotta keep a lot of other factors like where to put smokes, trap plys using util, where to put util and a lot other stuff in valo

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not to play devils advocate but the skill floor in CS higher than val and CS geaphics are rly weird in CS you also have to acct for what guns ur oponents have

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i dont like when young children die from cancer