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Not to play devils advocate but.....

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#1
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Put a take hot or not in the comment and someone has to reply to it playing the devils advocate.
Ex (dont attck me for this example I jst wanted to show an example).
C: I think women can make t1
R. Not to play devils adocate but if women have the skills to make t1 then why arent there any women in t1?

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y0y

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kanyefan4238173
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Aspas is not a baiter

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gamergirl [#2]

y0y

fr0nch person dni

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the reason women arent in t1 is that esports and gaming as a whole is inherently misogynistic and there arent enough girls that play games from a young age to gather a substantial enough talent pool

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Harapan845 [#5]

the reason women arent in t1 is that esports and gaming as a whole is inherently misogynistic and there arent enough girls that play games from a young age to gather a substantial enough talent pool

this is the answer

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kanyefan4238173 [#3]

Aspas is not a baiter

7 won 1vX+1 (1v2-1v5) through the entire season

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kanyefan4238173 [#3]

Aspas is not a baiter

Not to play devils advocate but aspas has low first engagement numbers for a duelist and doesnt provide a good hard entry

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riot needs to move away from its excessive spending on GC and put the money towards t2 teams to promote a higher field of competition and make it so orgs actually want and can AFFORD to pick up valorant

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Harapan845 [#5]

the reason women arent in t1 is that esports and gaming as a whole is inherently misogynistic and there arent enough girls that play games from a young age to gather a substantial enough talent pool

or they just suck

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rito, the music company, is a really good game developing company. Its almost like they ARE a game developing company am I right?

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VB37 [#10]

or they just suck

or you could look at it positively which I assume for an 100t fan is hard

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Harapan845 [#5]

the reason women arent in t1 is that esports and gaming as a whole is inherently misogynistic and there arent enough girls that play games from a young age to gather a substantial enough talent pool

Not to play devils advocate but there are a high amt of women playing val compared to other games, also if women could compete with the best of the best of men why did the best gc team lose in open quals?

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DownLoad_AimLabs [#13]

Not to play devils advocate but there are a high amt of women playing val compared to other games, also if women could compete with the best of the best of men why did the best gc team lose in open quals?

there arent enough girls that play games from a young age to gather a substantial enough talent pool

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aquaa018 [#11]

rito, the music company, is a really good game developing company. Its almost like they ARE a game developing company am I right?

not to play the devils advocate but this game fucking sucks

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VB37 [#10]

or they just suck

Hey you have one thing in common with them then

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saynotoherpes [#7]

7 won 1vX+1 (1v2-1v5) through the entire season

what is your point here lol

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Harapan845 [#14]

there arent enough girls that play games from a young age to gather a substantial enough talent pool

Cause thats their decisions, most girls ik only play roblox

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Harapan845 [#5]

the reason women arent in t1 is that esports and gaming as a whole is inherently misogynistic and there arent enough girls that play games from a young age to gather a substantial enough talent pool

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DownLoad_AimLabs [#18]

Cause thats their decisions, most girls ik only play roblox

ok and you asked why i gave you a reason

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DownLoad_AimLabs [#18]

Cause thats their decisions, most girls ik only play roblox

And what do you think affects their decisions?

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x_knowitall39_x [#19]

.

can i have the flaws presented please
(bullet point format is preferred)

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StutterSt3p [#21]

And what do you think affects their decisions?

the ppl around them and the culture surrounding playing video games for a living

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Harapan845 [#20]

ok and you asked why i gave you a reason

are u slow let me break it down for u:
Low player base = Low talent pool

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DownLoad_AimLabs [#24]

are u slow let me break it down for u:
Low player base = Low talent pool

yes thats what i said?

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DownLoad_AimLabs [#23]

the ppl around them and the culture surrounding playing video games for a living

Ah so you know. We just getting baited smh.

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Harapan845 [#25]

yes thats what i said?

How is it misogynistic that a women cant compete with someone of a different gender?

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meanie [#17]

what is your point here lol

comically low compared to every other duelist that has played the same amount of games as him along with his low entry % leads to a picture of someone who farms in the midround and doesnt go for shit

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DownLoad_AimLabs [#27]

How is it misogynistic that a women cant compete with someone of a different gender?

the low player base is most probably due to being driven away for fps by the toxic nature of the games

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saynotoherpes [#28]

comically low compared to every other duelist that has played the same amount of games as him along with his low entry % leads to a picture of someone who farms in the midround and doesnt go for shit

but isn’t that 1vX stat only for clutches?

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Harapan845 [#29]

the low player base is most probably due to being driven away for fps by the toxic nature of the games

no it is because most women dont wanna play val or dont wanna buy a PC to play val

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no it is because most women dont wanna play val or dont wanna buy a PC to play val

not having the want to is different to not having the ability to
(fuck I'm being baited ain't I)

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meanie [#30]

but isn’t that 1vX stat only for clutches?

honestly was arguing more that he plays for stats

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Woot is a better duelist than Miniboo

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StutterSt3p [#26]

Ah so you know. We just getting baited smh.

thats the truth, this tells me you've nvr hung out w/ women

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Harapan845 [#32]

not having the want to is different to not having the ability to
(fuck I'm being baited ain't I)

also not wanting to play val could be caused by the experience of the community or other fps communities

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Harapan845 [#5]

the reason women arent in t1 is that esports and gaming as a whole is inherently misogynistic and there arent enough girls that play games from a young age to gather a substantial enough talent pool

"is inherently misogynistic" no, its just a skill issue, dudes get 'harassed' more times than women in games.

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saynotoherpes [#33]

honestly was arguing more that he plays for stats

but if he has a low 1vX then that’s good for an engage duelist no?

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Hades_Loves_Rb [#34]

Woot is a better duelist than Miniboo

But Miniboo provides a hard entry acting as like a drone unlike wo0t. wo0t also looks equally if not better on flex .

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DownLoad_AimLabs [#35]

thats the truth, this tells me you've nvr hung out w/ women

What are you on about? What truth are you even referring to?

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Tomczi [#37]

"is inherently misogynistic" no, its just a skill issue, dudes get 'harassed' more times than women in games.

its far more targeted towards women when they are women than it being because they are men

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Tomczi [#37]

"is inherently misogynistic" no, its just a skill issue, dudes get 'harassed' more times than women in games.

Bro men do not get more hate in games than women, at least targeted hate.

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EDG won champions 2024

#44
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ctabust [#43]

EDG won champions 2024

they didn't and you've been imagining it in your head the whole time

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StutterSt3p [#40]

What are you on about? What truth are you even referring to?

if I said it on here id get banned so im not gonna say it

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ctabust [#43]

EDG won champions 2024

Not to play devils advocate but the nvr played Gen. G the best team itw

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if s1mple switched to valorant full time in 2020 Ukraine would be a powerhouse region like Turkey in terms of talent and s1mple would be a 2x time Champs winner

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Harapan845 [#32]

not having the want to is different to not having the ability to
(fuck I'm being baited ain't I)

ur saying women dont have the ability to buy a PC????

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DownLoad_AimLabs [#45]

if I said it on here id get banned so im not gonna say it

sigh...you win bruh. I got baited.

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Nef0r0 [#47]

if s1mple switched to valorant full time in 2020 Ukraine would be a powerhouse region like Turkey in terms of talent and s1mple would be a 2x time Champs winner

he would be literally yay tho but better

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Harapan845 [#36]

also not wanting to play val could be caused by the experience of the community or other fps communities

wtf are u saying no parent wants their child to play video games for a living and why are we acting like val is the most toxic com out there

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ur saying women dont have the ability to buy a PC????

i ignored that because i cant talk about that since I do not know enough about it
women can def buy a pc

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StutterSt3p [#49]

sigh...you win bruh. I got baited.

u cant argue my point so ur giving up

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DownLoad_AimLabs [#51]

wtf are u saying no parent wants their child to play video games for a living and why are we acting like val is the most toxic com out there

never said most toxic or parents but valorant is def very toxic. maybe I think this because I am european but still

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Harapan845 [#50]

he would be literally yay tho but better

quite literally

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Nef0r0 [#47]

if s1mple switched to valorant full time in 2020 Ukraine would be a powerhouse region like Turkey in terms of talent and s1mple would be a 2x time Champs winner

Not to play devils advocate but s1mple would've been washed by this new talent

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Harapan845 [#50]

he would be literally yay tho but better

He would be yay with a stronger mental, more experience, and more egoisitc as well as I believe better raw skill

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Nef0r0 [#57]

He would be yay with a stronger mental, more experience, and more egoisitc as well as I believe better raw skill

i think that
1 prob get titled by the util dumping breaches
2 what agents would he want to learn that arent jett/chamber

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DownLoad_AimLabs [#39]

But Miniboo provides a hard entry acting as like a drone unlike wo0t. wo0t also looks equally if not better on flex .

miniboo has yet to have a perfornce as good as woot shanghai. Woot shanghai was the best duelist itw at that time and argubly him up till the GFs was the best performance of any player all year. He choked a bit in the GFs which due to how the team had little to no practice as a 5 prior to Shanghai +his fist t1 duelist performance+against the best team itw with tons of pressure on him to perform is understandable. Also his flex is still very good (as is miniboo on duelist) but im just saying Woot is better on duelist

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DownLoad_AimLabs [#56]

Not to play devils advocate but s1mple would've been washed by this new talent

S1mple schooled monesy, I am sure he would school primmie/woot/zekken. And while I am at it, cs players possess better mental and longevity than most valorant pros which just proves my point that s1mple would be broken

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Harapan845 [#54]

never said most toxic or parents but valorant is def very toxic. maybe I think this because I am european but still

on Csgo its worse on Apeks its worse on OW its worse on Genshin its worse

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Harapan845 [#41]

its far more targeted towards women when they are women than it being because they are men

it doesn't matter, if the harassment was misogynistic or not, harassment will be harassment, the point, is that dudes will threat each others familys in match and act like nothing happend the next match, while woman will get called to go back to the kitchen and make whole drama about it.

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Harapan845 [#58]

i think that
1 prob get titled by the util dumping breaches
2 what agents would he want to learn that arent jett/chamber

Any agent which has an ability to go for a self-peek, and which can trade teammmates, so almost any duelist. S1mple proved his adaptability throughout the years in CS

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VB37 [#10]

or they just suck

i see VB37 i type retard. misogynistic incel

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Hades_Loves_Rb [#59]

miniboo has yet to have a perfornce as good as woot shanghai. Woot shanghai was the best duelist itw at that time and argubly him up till the GFs was the best performance of any player all year. He choked a bit in the GFs which due to how the team had little to no practice as a 5 prior to Shanghai +his fist t1 duelist performance+against the best team itw with tons of pressure on him to perform is understandable. Also his flex is still very good (as is miniboo on duelist) but im just saying Woot is better on duelist

bro miniboos whole job is to act like a drone wo0t prob didnt want to do that

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DownLoad_AimLabs [#61]

on Csgo its worse on Apeks its worse on OW its worse on Genshin its worse

that does not mean it is not bad in val

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Nef0r0 [#60]

S1mple schooled monesy, I am sure he would school primmie/woot/zekken. And while I am at it, cs players possess better mental and longevity than most valorant pros which just proves my point that s1mple would be broken

reaction time starts falling off at like 25-26 if he showed some talent as an igl then maybe

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Nef0r0 [#63]

Any agent which has an ability to go for a self-peek, and which can trade teammmates, so almost any duelist. S1mple proved his adaptability throughout the years in CS

i think that there would be a steep learning curve to this

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Harapan845 [#66]

that does not mean it is not bad in val

its not bad at all in val I get women once every 2 games and no one throws or says anything weird

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DownLoad_AimLabs [#69]

its not bad at all in val I get women once every 2 games and no one throws or says anything weird

maybe I think this because I am european but still

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Harapan845 [#70]

maybe I think this because I am european but still

ok and abt the women who are playing in GC, if they are so good why cant they qual to challengers?

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StutterSt3p [#42]

Bro men do not get more hate in games than women, at least targeted hate.

Targeted hate definitely woman get more, but ur average gaming dude heard more sl*rs said to him than ur average gamer girl.

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Harapan845 [#70]

maybe I think this because I am european but still

???

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DownLoad_AimLabs [#67]

reaction time starts falling off at like 25-26 if he showed some talent as an igl then maybe

He doesn't rely on his mechanics only, he relies on his game sense, he is one of the most versatile cs players (alongside zywoo), he is like LeBron of CS

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Tomczi [#72]

Targeted hate definitely woman get more, but ur average gaming dude heard more sl*rs said to him than ur average gamer girl.

The slurs aren't personal though. Like 14 year olds will just spout the n-word for no reason. However, the hate towards women is personal though. It's not just a general I'm pissed off so here's a mean term. It's a fuck you for existing in my game as a girl/woman.

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Harapan845 [#68]

i think that there would be a steep learning curve to this

If other CS pros adapted, I don't see why s1mple couldn't. If he was in the first wave of CS arrivals, he would set the curve

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DownLoad_AimLabs [#73]

???

?

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Harapan845 [#77]

?

respond to what I said

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Harapan845
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respond to what I said

why do you need attention that bad?

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Nef0r0 [#76]

If other CS pros adapted, I don't see why s1mple couldn't. If he was in the first wave of CS arrivals, he would set the curve

man can't even adapt to cs2

and youre expecting him to adapt to valorant

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bananacannon33 [#80]

man can't even adapt to cs2

and youre expecting him to adapt to valorant

i think 2020 simple could

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bananacannon33 [#80]

man can't even adapt to cs2

and youre expecting him to adapt to valorant

3/4 maps top frag, on par with donk on faceit, also we talk about 2020 s1mple

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reaction time starts falling off at like 25-26 if he showed some talent as an igl then maybe

listen I think this s1mple glazer is dumb but

reaction time peaks at 25-26 meaning you're at your "fastest" in terms of speed

but when you are 18-22 you are slower than 25-26. so it doesn't really matter at all tbh lol unless youre really old

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Harapan845 [#79]

why do you need attention that bad?

so ur baiting????????

#85
Harapan845
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DownLoad_AimLabs [#84]

so ur baiting????????

man leave me alone

#86
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Harapan845 [#85]

man leave me alone

bro doesnt have an answer lmfaoo stay baiting like a bitch

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RRQ still can't get a placement above 5th-6th.

For me, kicking Lmemore was a weird decision

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tserc [#87]

RRQ still can't get a placement above 5th-6th.

For me, kicking Lmemore was a weird decision

Not to play devils advocate but rrq arent coming close to an international stage but kicking lmemore for kush was good and flip for monyet is amazing

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Harapan845 [#5]

the reason women arent in t1 is that esports and gaming as a whole is inherently misogynistic and there arent enough girls that play games from a young age to gather a substantial enough talent pool

Not to play devil's advocate but playing from a young age isn't always needed to gather enough talent, people can play dedicatedly for 2-3years and make it in

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DownLoad_AimLabs [#13]

Not to play devils advocate but there are a high amt of women playing val compared to other games, also if women could compete with the best of the best of men why did the best gc team lose in open quals?

bro you don't have to "play devils advocate" when sexism is your real position lmfao, there are lots of dudes on here that would still be your friend

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bro you don't have to "play devils advocate" when sexism is your real position lmfao, there are lots of dudes on here that would still be your friend

im not sexist im jst disproving the notion that it is misogynistic to not include women in teams if their not good enough. If SR the best GC team couldnt make it out of open qualifiers what right do GC players have to play in t1

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im not sexist im jst disproving the notion that it is misogynistic to not include women in teams if their not good enough. If SR the best GC team couldnt make it out of open qualifiers what right do GC players have to play in t1

idk if you realize the amount of pressure on them and they lose one game so automatically no women can play t1? you're right you aren't sexist!

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Dallyn [#92]

idk if you realize the amount of pressure on them and they lose one game so automatically no women can play t1? you're right you aren't sexist!

its OPEN qualifiers so everyone follows the same rules, if they cant make it to t2 how can they do well in t1. t2 is the stepping stone to t1

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its OPEN qualifiers so everyone follows the same rules, if they cant make it to t2 how can they do well in t1. t2 is the stepping stone to t1

famously no one has ever lost and open qualifier and then made it later. Idk how to explain to you that one GC team playing in one open qual doesn't mean every woman will never make it in t1, and that if you truly believe that you should go outside and talk to humans please!

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Dallyn [#94]

famously no one has ever lost and open qualifier and then made it later. Idk how to explain to you that one GC team playing in one open qual doesn't mean every woman will never make it in t1, and that if you truly believe that you should go outside and talk to humans please!

"one GC team" its the champs winning team, im not saying their cant be women in t1 im saying rn it wouldnt make sense for them to be in t1. yk why flor looks so good in games it because shes literally smurfing on these immo GC players. There is no reason for a immortal to be in t1.

edit: Bro I have a lot of male and female friends I talk to often so idk what ur getting at tryna insult me instead of answering the question

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I don't know why people say CS is harde than valorant considering in CS u only gotta aim and have a basic plan while valorant is a much deeper game where u gotta keep a lot of other factors like where to put smokes, trap plys using util, where to put util and a lot other stuff in valo

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KClaw [#96]

I don't know why people say CS is harde than valorant considering in CS u only gotta aim and have a basic plan while valorant is a much deeper game where u gotta keep a lot of other factors like where to put smokes, trap plys using util, where to put util and a lot other stuff in valo

not to play devils advocate but the skill floor in CS higher than val and CS geaphics are rly weird in CS you also have to acct for what guns ur oponents have

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i dont like when young children die from cancer

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