They didn’t add Global Esports to franchising cause they wanted them to make the best korean roster in valorant, no, they added them with the idea that they would have strong indian representation. I am 10000% sure there are players from India that are taleneted enough to compete at the highest level. GE is not looking hard enough. They have completely given up on their own country. Disappointing to say the least.
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Very simple imo. Koreans (not that many in valorant) are already gonna watch the games because they have DRX/GenG/T1, adding DPlus would increase the viewership very lightly. By adding GE you unlock a whole region which might not be big now but its potential is undeniable.
To put it simply, although DPlus is bigger than GE, GE is more beneficial because DPlus overlaps an already existing fanbase
Orgs for fanbase and stable ecosystem! Not orgs who just go and do scandals dont pay their players GE has a good history with their players and management and a good background also i think orgs like D Plus Esports didnt invest enough in valorant + there were already 3 Korean orgs which are wayy better were already chosen
I deny this even when there was no Indian in the roster in beginning of some matches of 2023 many people watched GE games people care more about performance then players if GE performs well regardless of Players people will show up and support the problem is even with only 1 Indian and so many imports GE has lost always and not showed good potential
Fun fact most of u guys wont know this but GE is registered in Korea lol also they had a Korean roster before Indian roster!!
I think they are trying their best I just feel like they should have made an academy team by now nurturing Indian talent i think the whole ecosystem gotta change its not really the orgs fault if there is no willingness from players side thats what i feel tbh
Well, as a Spanish fan I feel like I'm in that exact situation. At the very least me, I don't want Spanish orgs to force Spanish players into tier 1 for no reason.
If there is no talent they can't just invent it. I think GE with a winning roster would attract way more players and do better for the scene than 5 Indian players that place last. The problem obviously comes if they have no Indian players AND they lose, but that's something you can only relatively control and eventually will change.
Also in EMEA BBL and M8 have done the transition this year from full national to international, and even without seeing the results, for what I've read both fanbases love it. Might just be EMEA mentality Ig
Another fun fact idk if this is true or not or u guys will believe it this is coming from CEOS stream
As per him GE is doing better than many other orgs in pacific! as they having bootcamps and everything in Korea they have a good structure and everything and they are doing well financially ofc not making profit or anything but better than other orgs they know!
but just they havent been able to perform on the big stage yet
European dudes are less resistant to accepting sports teams with no or few homegrown players as your own.
(Nevertheless, in the case of LOL, rumor has it that In LEC, Teams has different sponsorship sizes when has French/Spanish players versus Eastern European/German players).
In Asia, on the other hand, nationality is much more important. No offense, This is not to say that they're all nationalists, but "Asia" is just a way of referring to a bunch of linguistically and culturally disconnected countries.
Yeah no I understand, the exact same thing happens in LATAM for example, many LATAM fans wanna kill LEV for going international.
So I suppose it’s a European thing but I don’t think either of those are the reasons, like we are extremely patriotic in that sense too and it’s not like I have much in common with a Polish guy either
It’s a really interesting thought tho I wouldn’t really be able to explain it either. My best guess is we’ve gotten used to it through traditional sports. Real Madrid for example has barely any Spanish players at all, and it’s not like we’re not the current European champions, yet no one complains
All of that being said my original point stands, I think it’s the most beneficial for the scene in the long term aswell. GE actually doing good would also attract so many players and make the scene thrive
And don't get me wrong I would love to see spanish players. But Ig in EMEA we have more of a club mentality and we very much like to support orgs more than just players
What I do think is that those orgs owe to the scene functional academies in their region to change that in the future, and I'm afraid no one is gonna do it
Spanish and Indian are 2 different problem, Europe is kinda unified wish isnt the case for India, and in Europe all our country are too small to have a unique country team that will be good enough. However India is 30x most populated than Spain, and will be the next China in the next decade.
Keep in mind that you better compare India with European union (Wish is 3 times populated), and Spain with Indian state, if Spain was a Indian state they would not even be in the top 10 (And Uttar pradesh is basically 5 times more populated than Spain. Sure, India is less developed, but they are develop fast
I'm sorry but comparing countries based on population makes absolutely no sense, that's just not how it works, by that rule you might aswell give an spot to Nigeria or Bangladesh .What actually matters is the player base and in that case I imagine it is quite similar if the Spanish one isn't bigger.
Obviously there is a potential in India which must be taken into account which is why they're not completely ignored in the first place
As I said I don't wanna count if GDP, I wanna count in player base xD
And no, I do not just count the size of the market I want to conquer. If I'm a toy company I'm not targeting elderly people just because there's more than kids. That's just not how it works. There is a target audience and that is the people that care about your product, and how many people cares about you product is seen in the player base
If you wanna give the slot from Indonesia to Australia because they have a bigger GDP, go ahead but the game isn't gonna make it very far
They hosted open tryouts allowing indian players to porve themselves. India does have the largest (depending on what data you use) population on earth. But only a very very small percentage of that population has access to good setups, is interested in valorant and has the time to practice enough to be good.
Na education moment
Dude people are literally like we are the most populated country we can surely produce good talent, dude the most populated thing u r talking abt less than 20% of the people has laptops and pcs and less than 4-5% has pcs and laptops capable of running valo and then u subract how many of those don't play valo, or aren't interested in vct
At this point, no one cares about GE. Riot should kick them out of the league. What's the point of keeping them in if they’re doing nothing for the Valorant scene in India? In fact they are killing it. Boom should get the slot instead. For the average Indian fan, it doesn’t matter if it’s GE or Boom neither has an Indian representative anyway.
The Spanish and French eSports scenes are already well developed but in India it’s just starting and we need support. India needs heroes of its own. If GE doesn’t give opportunities to Indian players how are we ever going to have that? Look at DFM they go 0-10 every year yet they still give chances to their own players that's how they got meiy. Why can’t GE do the same? Isn’t it their responsibility to support the Indian scene? That’s the whole reason they got the slot in the first place.
Only 11 players from all over India applied for the GE open tryouts that's because everyone in the scene knows the GE owner has a bad reputation. He tends to favor foreign players and overlook Indian talent. Many believe the open tryouts were just for show allowing him to claim he gave everyone a fair chance though his intentions were never genuine.why People think indian talent=Rossi,lf ..they both has been with GE for the past five years and washed long back the org never gives opportunities to outsiders. and how can they conduct fair tryouts when players are competing with 10 ping vs 80?
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