This actually why i hated "nt kub jingg stronger kub" PRX fans.. like holyshit their hate for monyet because he replaced jinggg is disgusting. And all of those because of Looks!?.

o7 LESGO sSSEEEESSss!

Lmao what pokemon? Pokemon GO!?

Alecks is part of PaperRex management, He wont fire himself lmao.. PRX is a small singaporean org with only Valorant as it only division (There's a rumour that they're gonna build a MLBB team for MPL ID but still just a rumour).

Im not talking only about post comm videos... like even in any video, he barely speak english. I remember last year Jen the MC talk in english to him in the waiting room for an interview. But bro just stutter "uhhh" then give the mic to Jemkin or Xffero i forgot.

I think most people/indos problem with Estrella is not about his Aim, Call, Macro, etc, but his ability in speaking english. Most Indos i talk to agree that Estrella is quite an Aimer and might be a good IGL in a full korean team. The problem is that Estrella only speak "Valorant English" despite already being 1 full year in an english comm team.
In every video/clip of Estrella in the Internet (Posted either by RRQ or VCT Official), there isnt a single time he spoke a whole long english sentences unlike monyet, kushy, jemkin, and Xffero.
He's actually quite in a similar situation with Primmie where both player are still struggling on comming in english but both player are definitely legit. The problem is that he's the IGL unlike primmie.

Bro lu cuma liat dari beberapa match/round ya jelas jelek.. Tapi overall stat pasti RRQ naiklah.. lu kira kenapa PaperRex masih digadang2 tim atas padahal hobi ngechoke dan kena trifty ya karena secara overall meski taun kemaren ampas mereka tetep konsisten hadir di event internasional. Pacific taun ini emg lagi gila2nya (kecuali ZETA sama TS).

Ya Nongshim emg mainnya bagus mau diapa cuk, gue rasa NS klo ketemu tim kek GenG atau T1 juga bisa menang.. apes aja kemaren lawan DRX. Klo RRQ mainnya jelek banget nah baru lah, tinggal benerin apa yang kureng dan moga2 pas liga mulai mainnya dah bagus.

How much did you lose bro? lmao. Funniest RRQ fan right here.

Masih bocil + suruh cari pengalaman dulu di Tier 2.. toh Jemkin jago.

Delusional. Jemkin is crazy good..

0/10

what makes you think that forcing them to learn English and comm in a brand new fucking language will help the scene?

How do you think why alot of Indonesian valorant pro become pro today??? Because they watched Xcc, BnTeT in CS and f0rsakeN, Mindfreak in Valorant played in the highest stage of professional competitive esport.. And all of them played in a foreign team not Indonesian team. The furthest JP team ever archieve in valorant is ZETA run in Reikjavik and that's like 3 years ago in 2022 and the star player Laz is already retired now. And how do you think why they all can play in a foreign team? of course by learning english. All of this helped the Indonesian scene to be quite matured because of star player like Xcc paved the way for other inspiring rookie in tac-shooter like Kushy to found his way into Tier 1 valorant.

if a foreign player comes in, 1 person learning the language is more efficient than the entire fucking team needing to learn the lingo.

Again, BOOM Esport and RRQ said otherwise. Learning english is a long term investment. if you expect to instantly win just because you start speaking/learning english then you are a fool. But by learning english you could become more competitive in sense that other international team could easily took a JP player find success outside of japan similar to Shohei Ohtani in the LA Dodgers who just win the world series and inspired alot of Japanese people and grow the japanese baseball scene to be mcuh more "international" and "competitive"

I think im gonna stop replying and we both need to agree to disagree on this because you already start talking with your emotion.

You know what? I get it. I think you should just said from the beginning that people who support Japanese team just want only "Japanese" or people who speak "Japanese" in their team so this discussion could finally end because my opinion definitely wont change and so do you.
Lets just agree to disagree.

The thread ask "How to help Japan?" and this is my answer
I still think Japanese scene + Org can benefit heavily by learning english, but if you disagree then theres nothing more to discuss.

Yeah i think any sport "association" are corrupt in everywhere in the world.. I mean FIFA is the most corrupt organization, of course other football/soccer organization would be corrupt too. Its just sad that STY is gone now.

You are the one who ignored my point.. Do you think BME player + all the coaching staff born speaking basic english? Dude, Indonesia is not an anglo speaking country like the Philippines, Malaysia or Singapore. We speak Bahasa Indonesia not English here. They reason why they can speak basic english?? because they learn, it's not like god magically bestow them the power of "basic english". You speak as if normal Indonesian are granted "Basic English" while Indonesian are pretty much the same with Japan where the ordinary people barely speak any english in everyday life. The only reason why all Indonesia pro can speak english are because they forced themself to learn english.

Mon could speak English well when he was in GE

Yeah again, why do you think he can speak english? Do you think the god bestow him "basic english" again?? Bro, Monyet is Balinese so he probably can speak at minimum 3 languages (Balinese, Indonesian, and English). The reason why he can speak English? Because majority of Indonesian pro Indonesian player saw that speaking english is a benefit for them in the long run.

rossy wasn't even playing by the time xcc was told to comm in Korean, stax was playing instead of rossy so it was 4 koreans and 1 indo. It was a requirement after rossy got benched and stax joined.

That's like the last 2 game of T1 where its only like a week in between. Xccurate has been saying since the beggining after joining T1 that he's learning korean and nobody there actually forced him to learn korean. He's just the guy who want to adopt the origin team culture/language similar with his time in Tyloo. Nobody forced him to learn/call in Mandarin but he still learn Mandarin anyway.

that's the crazy part. Lmemore are still a crazy aimer and he's currently teamless.. hope some org picked him up, maybe Alter Ego? or any Tier 2 team in other region.

What getting fucked by RRQ does to a mutherfucker..

You're not wrong that learning English is a good investment, but that's not what they need right now.

Then the big question is untill when??? I really want to see JP team being good but honestly they seems lost just like when DFM faced RRQ.. DFM definitely has some aimer outside of MeiY but their play and strat are not adaptable so RRQ could easily just steamroll them twice 13-3.

Something is the sole reason why Sengoku able to come so far.

Then why no JP franchise team picked him from Sengoku???

Learn the F'ing english? how about the foreign players learn Japanese since the org is paying them + they are joining a JP team that only speaks Japanese

See?? this is the type of mentality of why the JP scene are not improving at all.. Just because the Org is Japanese does not mean they should stick to only "japan". If these kept on forever then japan would stagnate and wont be improving at all into the future. ID team like BOOM and RRQ comms in english despite both Org are Indonesian. Talon is a HK org but nobody in the team speak Chinese, and if you see EMEA, majority of their team speak english with the exception of FUT because all of them are turkish.

When korean learn to speak english and Japanese, they become good at the game and they're sought after by many team.. MeiY is an insane JP player but sadly majority of team probably wont picked him because he mostly cannot speak english at all just like other JP player.

I think you mistook my comment for being rude but i really want JP to be good at valorant because it such a waste that japan has a big presence in Valorant but their team and player are not delivering at all. And the fact that you didnt see any trouble for japanese not learning english jusr proved that you and majority of japanese prefer to stick in a bubble and does not want to improve by playing and learning from foreign players/gameplay.

RRQ players could speak basic english whereas JP needs to start from scratch for most. 4 players + coaches learning ENG is more complicated than 1 person learning Japanese.

Believed or not, majority of Indonesian actually does not speak english well like if you come to the capital Jakarta, you can barely meet anyone who speak conversational english on the street unlike other SEA nation like the philippines, Malaysia, and Singapore. But when Indonesian player know that they're going to be playing in the international stage. Most Indonesian would force themself to speak english because they know they wont survive without english. Famouz is one of BOOM players who's english are quite lacking but he force himself to switch to english so that BOOM can accomodate Dos9 into the team instead of forcing Dos9 to learn Indonesian.

you said XCC learned mandarin to be more cohesive, xcc was asked if he could comm in Korean to have better chemistry since its a Korean org with Korean players and Izu had hard time learning English (he didn't expect T1 to be comming in English in an interview).

Xcc did say that he learn korean so that he can comms better with his other teammate but its not a requirment for him to do so during his time in T1. If its a requirment then it does not make sense why Xccurate was forced to learn korean while Rossy barely learning any korean at all if T1 want them all of them to speak korean. Sayaplayer, Carpe speak good english already, the only player who kinda struggle with english is Izu just as you said.

BME is a different case since some, if not all of them could speak English and their assistant coach is literally British

Again, just like i said before.. Most Indonesian who already become pro player in any sport/Esport forced themself to speak english. All indonesian player before franchising comms only in Indonesian but when franchising start most team try to switch to english as to accomodate foreign player and so that when they're teamless other team might choose them similar to Blazek1ng last year in GE or Monyet when he was in GE and of course Xcc in T1.

Scarz just proved time and time again that English speaking roster doesn't guarantee you wins.

Ofcourse English comm does not guaratee you wins but learning english is a good investment to any team for the long run because you could easily maneuver or adapt to any player that want or should join your team unlike JP teams where they're stuck only with Japanese and Korean who can speak Japanese.

Smth former team Sengoku Gaming never really in the top of VCJ at all but Paper rex still picked him up because they know that smth is a insanely good player so the argument of intl roster not succesful in japan does not really matter at all.
Japanese does not really lack of cracked player i agree but VCJ is a bubble where these cracked player only meet other JP cracked player while the rest of the world might be more cracked than them. Gyen are supposed to be this Cracked ranked player similar to karon but he does not really show anything during kick-off at all.

not rebutting or anything but if a foreign player joins a Japanese (or any team with 4 local players in local team) team, it is natural for that player to learn the language that the "team" is using

Disagree, BOOM switch from Indonesian to English comms just to accomodate Dos9.. When jemkin first joined RRQ, despite RRQ have 4 Indonesian player they still comms in english instead of Indonesian. Again, its just Japanese unwillingness to learn any other languages other than japanese and shot themself on the foot.

Xcc learning korean is just his personality because when he was playing in Tyloo with BnTeT in CS, Tyloo was comm'ing in English but he still learn Mandarin just for them to be much more cohesive.
And when i said "Foreign" it does not mean like from other region.. I think a team like ZETA could scouted more cracked player from Korea, Indonesia, PH, MY/SG, Thai, etc and be stronger instead of losing without any map from kick-off.

Learn F'ing english... The only reason goated player from VCJ like smth,jemkin,kr1stal,etc not playing on their team is their inability and unwillingness to speak and learn english.
Korean and Chinese despite having the same struggle as other east asian are much more accepting to learning english so they can easily adapt to other team/region (not like they need to import any player from other region).

Atleast exist first bro. DSG is no more, its not your fault :')

I want BOOM to win so they can hopefully meet RRQ in lower bracket and deliver the classic indo derby (the legendary APAC LCQ all-indonesian grand final between BOOM vs ONIC).. But, im gonna put my expectation low for now.
ONIC G player: Monyet (RRQ), Shiro (BOOM), Ncslasher (BOOM)
BOOM player: Xffero (RRQ), Famouz (BOOM), BerserX (BOOM)

RRQ should win this but Xffero is currently sick (confirmed by the MC after RRQ lost againts GenG). hope he's better tommorow or ggwp RRQ.

????

SEA is hot but Korean Summer is hell... its "Extreme". in winter its cold, too cold for you average SEA people but even in summer, its much more hot and worse compared to SEA.

Im more certain that RRQ can win againt GenG with Meteor is now is in T1 lmao. Meteor single handedly save T1 from BOOM in pearl like holyshit, it could easily go 2-0 for BOOM if not for Meteor.

GOAT

Neon mode marathon jalan cepat wkwkwkwk

BANGER.. hope RRQ fix whatever happen on their abyss againts DFM

I turned off my PC dude... its f'ing stupid how they throw Abyss, hope they iron out whatever happen on abyss

Severine as HC is diabolical... kesel ama map 1 RRQ boleh emg tolol banget.. tp Severine HC itu apa ceritanya bangsattttt

Dont forget BerserX on Bind.. but yea definitely a banger match. GGWP NT BOOM!

Who said that BOOM were carried only by Dos9??? all BOOM player shoot buddy

Remind me what happen when dos9 carrying indian?

iya bener gila NAOS stacked banget ada Sultan, PTC sama pemain pinoynya solid2 semua.

Now Thai really loses all their val scene huh with FS (thai strongest team) shitting their bed againts RRQ academy, Sscary retiring and MITH dipped out because of f'king SOOP lmao.

Tim akademi cok, ngapain akademi ngambil mantan pemain tier 1 bangsatt.. Akademi buat bangun karir/pengalaman pemain2 muda indo kek splash, woody, 6ixkey, etc..

lagian tim akademi kaga bisa masuk ascension ini malah pengen ngesign lmemore ama fl1pjder.

There is no org left in SEA bruh.. Alter Ego despite winning the entire Acer Predator off-season league are disbanding (the current roster atleast). No more viewership (because of fking SOOP) means no more money to be made..

Now Indo team can "easily" beat any Thai team.

o7 indo slayer

Ya ente pikir aja jangankan Asia, merek SEA challanger aja ga terlalu ngikutin karena mereka "platchat" itu mayoritas orang NA/EU jadi jelaslah mereka ga ngikutin scene T2 SEA apalagi Challanger Indo.. Yang mereka tau itu ya BOOM itu tim yang cukup kuat di "indo" tp ya mid di Asia karena ga pernah menang Ascension, cuma langganan ascension aja. Beda cerita klo kemaren BOOM menang final lawan SPG.

SPG itu dirate tinggi karena alasan geografis, mereka tim korea dan VCT APAC itu dikorea jadi mereka itu makanan/scrim tiap harinya itu sama tim2 Tier 1 kek PRX,EDG,T1,GenG,etc. Lah BOOM basisnya di SEA ya paling temen Scrimnya terbatas banget sebatas SEA, paling jauh ya Taiwan.
Udah gitu SPG di scrim hobi bantai2 tim T1 kek Team heretic, PRX, Fnatic, etc jadi orang2 komentator/pro/dll udah pada saling bocor2in rumor klo SPG itu cracked dan pantes ditaro di tier list tinggi ketimbang BOOM.

BOOM diperingkat 12 sah2 aja sih biar ekspektasi orang rendah dan buat pemain BOOM gaterlalu ke pressure karena ini liga VCT pertama mereka beda ama tim2 lain yang udah 2 tahunan di liga teratas APAC, malah bagus klo ditaro peringkat 12 eh ternyata bisa lolos tourney internasional kan lebih bagus storylinenya kek team heretic tahun 2024 ditaro bawah eh ternyata jago.

Meow (Former BOOM HC) despite being korean, he actually grew up in the Philippines till HS and then cameback to korea for a time to play and coach for multiple team and then ended up in Indonesia for 2+ years coaching BOOM Esport.
He will feel at home in TS.

ya sama kek tau kmrn RRQ vs PRX.. beneran cuma "Show" match

Si botak saidsow kaga pernah nonton APAC bang, ngarep apa dia ngelirik player BOOM wkwkkwkwkw.. lupa mereka BOOM selalu konsisten absen ascension + pernah ke champ dan ngambil 1 map dari "PRIME OPTIC".
RRQ yang jelas2 upgrade (kush + Warbirds) aja ditaro di C meanwhile Talon A dan TS B?? wtf.

At first i thougt it gonna be like this

• Kush = Init IGL
• Monyet = Flex
• Jemkin = Main duelist
• Xffero = smoker/senti
• Lmemore = init/Flex

oh well.

Why would i choose between 2 turds?

a Korean igl

Yea, i cannot believe RRQ cannot win with this World class 300 IQ korean IGL who does not even qualified for 2023 APAC ascension playoff